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    A slight correction for the article below...

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    Eddie and Vanessa Perry are shown in the photo with their kids, BuzzFeed reported. They are from Cincinnati, Ohio, and were featured in an article from local station WCPO last summer in a story about a black family reunion in the Midwest. The tweet was initially shared by Twitter account @Don_Vito_08, which appears to have deleted the post.
    It's not a black family reunion, it's THE Black Family Reunion. An actual named festival that's held down at Sawyer Point.

    Interestingly, they have metal detectors at the entrances and a lot of police involved. Go figure... Just like the Cincinnati Jazz Festival which is about anything but Jazz.

    Last time I was down there at BFR was back when years ago I was an ATM tech and had to go work on a deployed machine. 2 Cincy PD officers were nice enough to offer to escort me and watch while I serviced it.

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    Have You People No Shame? Trump’s Response Is Bullcrap.

    June 8, 2016

    Donald Trump’s sudden damage control over his racist remarks amounts to complete and utter bullcrap. He released a statement where he now raises the specter of the judge being appointed by Barack Obama.

    That’s the problem today. Not only that, he is trying to litigate his Trump University fraud case in public and defend himself because he knows just what damning stories and advertisements are coming out.

    But follow along with me here.

    Donald Trump writes

    Due to what I believe are unfair and mistaken rulings in this case and the Judge’s reported associations with certain professional organizations, questions were raised regarding the Obama appointed Judge’s impartiality. It is a fair question. I hope it is not the case.

    Why then did Donald Trump, over the weekend, reiterate that Judge Curiel could not be fair because he was Mexican and then said a muslim judge would be unfair too?!?!??

    Likewise, the Trump campaign continues to pedal the lie that Judge Curiel is involved in the National Council of La Raza, as opposed to the local hispanic bar association in San Diego, which goes by the name “La Raza Bar Assoication of San Diego.”

    Trump has repeatedly said the judge would be unfair not because he is an Obama nominee, but because he is Mexican, even though the judge was born and raised in Indiana.

    Trump doubled down on that remark and added muslims as an additional category of person who could not fairly judge him.

    Republicans thought they could make a deal with the devil. The Republican establishment preferred Trump to Ted Cruz. They loathe Ted Cruz and figured they could at least cut deals with Trump, control Trump, and that Trump would grow up once he got the nomination.

    Deals with devil never work out for anyone other than the devil.

    Have Republicans no shame? They’re handing their nomination to a gold plated fraud who will cost the party not just its integrity and not just its soul, but also its chances of winning for at least a generation.

    Last night in North Carolina, Renee Ellmers got crushed. She was the first Republican to get Trump’s solid backing. She will not be the last person to see her career annihilated by being in Trump’s orbit. Republicans currently in the fetal position consoling themselves that it cannot get worse are sorely mistaken. It will get much, much worse.

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    The Next Two Weeks: Either Trump Or Unexpected Redemption Led by Wisconsin

    June 10, 2016

    Having spent the better part of this week suddenly fielding calls from donors and elected officials who’ve been otherwise adamant that I should give up and get on the Trump bandwagon, it is clear Trump has done himself real damage and people are privately reconsidering his nomination. This is unlike the primary in that, for example, Trump attacked Judge Curiel in March and the media ignored it. Now they have seized on it and put him on defense in a way he has not been since attacking Ben Carson as a child molester.

    Republicans who thought Trump could be controlled and reasoned with are finally starting to see the Trump that those of us who are against him have seen. The creep factor is intensifying as more Howard Stern stories come out. Trump, in his own words, commented on how good looking Paris Hilton was at 12 and then discussed how he and his wife watched Paris Hilton’s porn tape. Creepy.

    To mollify Republicans, on Tuesday night, Trump shackled himself to a TelePrompter, doing his best Obama impression. That, combined with his statement that he had been misconstrued, was an admission against interest that he had damaged himself. Republicans who had come to terms with Trump are again nervous and fretting.

    Based on all my conversations this week, here is how I think it will play out.

    If Trump can go the next two weeks without unforced errors and can do interviews along the way without embarrassing himself or the party, his nomination is assured. Trump has to be able to go out, without the Teleprompter, give speeches, and also give press interviews. If he hides in a bunker for the next two weeks, he will damage himself with prominent Republicans and donors. They need to see that he really is growing up and toning down.

    If Trump can do that, he is the nominee, and not just the presumptive nominee.

    But if Trump cannot control himself and exercise self-discipline in the next two weeks, the Republican convention is going to spiral out of control and look to a savior. That savior is most likely going to come from Wisconsin. It will not be Paul Ryan, but Scott Walker.

    Right now there are several separate similar efforts to unbind the delegates at the convention. The Rules Committee is key and sources I talk to expect the delegates to be split on the committee with about 30% for Cruz, 25% for Trump, and 45% willing to go in the direction that saves the party destruction. If Trump continues on like this week, those separate similar efforts will become one effort.

    Behind the scenes, it has not gone unnoticed that many of the major donors who are still opposed to Trump were also Scott Walker fans. There are rumors cropping up that Walker might be wiling to entertain being a dark horse candidate if we get to the convention and Trump has spiraled out of control. Walker’s withdrawal of his Trump endorsement was seen as a positive sign in that direction.

    Missing in all of this is Ted Cruz.

    Nothing will happen at the convention without Ted Cruz’s blessing. Cruz may be placed in the very unique position of having to be the statesman and lead his delegates. Because of the remaining animosity between Cruz and establishment players, Cruz might very well be able to shape a ticket that benefits Cruz without putting him in the top slot. If that ticket then goes on to lose to Hillary, Cruz is the one who stopped Trump and put the party above his own desires when 2020 comes around. If the ticket wins, he becomes President of the Senate before becoming President of the United States. Or he just fully takes on leadership of the conservative movement.

    Cruz and Walker are becoming key players as Trump continues to falter. The donor class feels comfortable with Walker and they think he could truly be persuaded to do it. The conservatives are comfortable with Cruz and recognize he has to be involved because of his delegate count and the personal loyalty of his delegates.

    All of this hinges on the next two to three weeks of Trump. Trump is about to come under withering attack by the Democrats. The media focus is growing. And the drumbeat to release his tax returns is about to become deafening. A smart person might just conclude that not all the attacks and investigations now being conducted by the media are originating with Democrats.

    More Republican governors, senators, and representatives are starting to fear disaster in November with Trump as the nominee. The chances for loss of the Senate is growing. Trump trying to convince Republican donors that he does not need a massive data operation while being convinced he can win California and Maryland has made senior Republicans and major donors very queasy. That Trump has hired a pollster to try to win New York is another signal to donors that Trump is a terrible investment living in delusion.

    These next two weeks are going to be critical for Trump, who must show he can be unscripted, hold his own in interviews, and not blow himself up. If he cannot do it, behind the scenes wheels are already beginning to turn to yank the nomination from him and the party elders from Romney to the Bushes will take discreet and decisive action.

    Trump has no more latitude. The leaks to Bloomberg of his conference call with surrogates ended that. He now must put up or shut up.




    In all honesty, I would vote for Scott Walker. I wouldn't like Cruz coming in 2nd and not getting the top slot but it would be strategic and does make sense. Scott Walker is a solid Conservative and a far better choice than Donald Trump.

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    In potentially related news...


    The Fallout Continues: Gov. Scott Walker Dumps Trump

    June 9, 2016

    Gov. Scott Walker, who previously offered his support to Donald Trump should he be the nominee (which he now is presumed to be) has withdrawn that support following the Donald's "he's Mexican" remarks about Judge Curiel.

    From The Weekly Standard:

    "It's just sad in America that we have such poor choices right now," Scott Walker told a reporter from Wisconsin's WKOW on Tuesday. The news station reported that Walker "wouldn't say that whether would continue to endorse him going forward."

    "He's not yet the nominee," Walker added. "Officially that won't happen until the middle of July and so for me that's kind of the time frame that, in particular, I want to make sure he renounces what he says--at least in regards to this judge."

    The fallout continues. And since it is now obvious that every article mentioning Trump's comment must contain proof of what he said thanks to Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly working so hard to cover it up, here is a reminder:

    (Non-embedable video at link)

    Yep. He said that. Sorry it's inconvenient to your attempts to ruin conservative politics forever.

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    You can run him down all you want, Trump is the nominee. The GOPe can sabotage Trump and hand the election to Hillary. Her first 100 days of rule will most likely be focused on taking our guns away in every fashion imaginable.

    Suggesting that a Hispanic judge, a member of LA RAZA FOR LAWYERS might not be impartial is not racist. It's accurate.

    We're constantly told about "all white juries" "white judges" and the lack of impartiality therein, but the moment you suggest a judge in a racist organization might not be impartial, you're accused of racism. Members of the same group are suing trump...conflict of interest much?

    Scott Walker will not be the nominee.
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    Hope I'm wrong...but I'm becoming concerned Obama will be going no where as he and Hillary will be working together to secure all their transformational Marxist milestones made over the past 8 years to destroy America from within and assure they will not have to answer for all the laws they have broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
    Hope I'm wrong...but I'm becoming concerned Obama will be going no where as he and Hillary will be working together to secure all their transformational Marxist milestones made over the past 8 years to destroy America from within and assure they will not have to answer for all the laws they have broken.
    They'll get their war then.
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    You can run him down all you want, Trump is the nominee. The GOPe can sabotage Trump and hand the election to Hillary. Her first 100 days of rule will most likely be focused on taking our guns away in every fashion imaginable.

    Suggesting that a Hispanic judge, a member of LA RAZA FOR LAWYERS might not be impartial is not racist. It's accurate.

    We're constantly told about "all white juries" "white judges" and the lack of impartiality therein, but the moment you suggest a judge in a racist organization might not be impartial, you're accused of racism. Members of the same group are suing trump...conflict of interest much?

    Scott Walker will not be the nominee.
    I'm not running Trump down, he's doing a bangup job being the guy plenty of us warned he was on his own.

    Ignoring what he said about the Hispanic judge, what about what he said about a potential Muslim judge?

    Now that the Dems have got their nomination sorted out and it's Trump v Hillary, the media is going to turn on him just as they were always going to do when they were done picking our candidate for us just like every other time. This is just the start.

    The fact remains, the Republican Party is still a private entity. Of course, at this point ejecting Trump would cause mayhem that would be almost impossible to overcome. That said, the party should have known what a clown Trump is and ejected him at the outset telling him he had no place in the party. Instead, like Erick Erickson said in his piece, they thought they could make a deal with the Devil and it is going to come back and bite them in the ass with a vengeance.

    The die has been cast and while an alternative would be great, like Erickson said, barring any major upset is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    They'll get their war then.
    Yes, as they've perfected their FLIR Yard Farming skills.

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    What's yard farming?
    I wasn't familiar with that term either. My guess is something like "bring the rain" to your backyard where ordinance from a stand off aerial platform turns your soil regardless what is on top or beneath it.

    Here's an idea of what they're describing if they were to ban firearms under Martial Law, coupled with "Molon Labe" 2nd Amendment resistors.

    Imagine what Ruby Ridge and Waco could have been like with this more efficient technology.

    Less survivors to tell tales.

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    Aerial Ownage

    Taking Out Terrorist With 30mm






    Engaging 3 terrorist in a field






    30mm Cannon takes Out terrorist and their truck







    Aerial footage of air strikes conducted on boaters with guns






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    This is why the "Oath Keepers" are considered so dangerous by this Administration now!


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    I have to ask... what racist remarks?????????????????????????
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    Hacker Who Breached Democratic National Committee Server Posts Confidential Trump, Hillary Files

    by Tyler Durden - Jun 16, 2016 1:31 AM

    One of the bigger news items to hit yesterday was that the Democratic National Committee accused Russian government hackers of penetrating the DNC's computer network and gaining access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump. The DNC further said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.

    It appears that was not entirely true, because barely 24 hours later, the alleged "Russian" hackers has emerged under the Guccifer2 handle, and instead of a group of government operatives and/or spies appears to be a "lone" hacker who incidentally adds, "DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said no financial documents were compromised. Nonsense! Just look through the Democratic Party lists of donors!"

    He also denounces the claim that no secret docs were stolen: "They say there were no secret docs! Lies again! Here is a secret document from Hillary’s PC she worked with as the Secretary of State."

    He concludes by saying that "the main part of the papers, thousands of files and mails, I gave to Wikileaks. They will publish them soon."

    Which in turn may explain why on Monday "Julian Assange Warns WikiLeaks Will Publish "Enough Evidence" To Indict Hillary Clinton"
    Curiously, "Guccifer2" he has chosen the Wordpress platform as the website where to post his initial disclosure. As such we urge those readers who are interested in the hacked files to download any files locally as this server will be taken down in a matter of moments.

    * * *

    Guccifer 2.0 DNC’s servers hacked by a lone hacker

    Worldwide known cyber security company CrowdStrike announced that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers had been hacked by “sophisticated” hacker groups.

    I’m very pleased the company appreciated my skills so highly))) But in fact, it was easy, very easy.

    Guccifer may have been the first one who penetrated Hillary Clinton’s and other Democrats’ mail servers. But he certainly wasn’t the last. No wonder any other hacker could easily get access to the DNC’s servers.

    Shame on CrowdStrike: Do you think I’ve been in the DNC’s networks for almost a year and saved only 2 documents? Do you really believe it?

    Here are just a few docs from many thousands I extracted when hacking into DNC’s network.

    They mentioned a leaked database on Donald Trump. Did they mean this one?





    Some hundred sheets! This’s a serious case, isn’t it?

    And it’s just a tiny part of all docs I downloaded from the Democrats networks.

    DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said no financial documents were compromised. Nonsense! Just look through the Democratic Party lists of donors!

    This one:



    Another one:


    And another one


    They say there were no secret docs! Lies again! Here is a secret document from Hillary’s PC she worked with as the Secretary of State.





    Here are other docs:
    2016 GOP presidential candidates

    HRC election plans

    NATIONAL SECURITY TRANSITION PLANNING

    2.19.16 Friends of HRC List_HFA16 Giving History

    4.16 Commitment Sheet_040416 Update

    7.1.15 Commitment Sheet

    The main part of the papers, thousands of files and mails, I gave to Wikileaks. They will publish them soon.

    I guess CrowdStrike customers should think twice about company’s competence.

    **** the Illuminati and their conspiracies!!!!!!!!! **** CrowdStrike!!!!!!!!!

    * * *

    Back to ZH here, with one final note: here is the platform that Hillary is running on based on the HRC election plan file:

    HOME BASE

    Americans have fought their way back from tough economic times but the deck is still stacked for those at the top. I'm running for President because everyday Americans and their families need a champion and I want to be that champion.

    When our families are strong, America's strong.

    It's not enough that corporations are raking in record profits and that CEO pay is through the roof, your family needs to be able to get ahead too. You need to have a little more so you can worry a little less. We’ve got to make being middle class mean something again in this country.

    (You should be able to have some savings you know you can fall back on, put money aside for retirement, pay off your student loans, start a small business, be able to give your children choices for their future.)

    Now, I know it's not going to be easy. We face some pretty powerful forces. But I've spent my whole life fighting for children, for families, standing up for America. And I think people know...I don't quit.

    For me, it isn't enough for American families just to get by, you deserve to get ahead and stay ahead. It's your time.

    And there you have it: Hillary, who made tens of millions in speeches before virtually every US corporation, and who received millions from Saudi Arabia... fighting for the little man.

    Meanwhile the mega donations come rolling in: odd that Soros could only afford $1 million.



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    Senator Ted Cruz Delivers the Awesome About Gun Control on the Senate Floor

    June 16, 2016

    He shoots! He scores!

    Texas Senator Ted Cruz has never been the senatorial wallflower. It is his willingness to go against the tide of the voices around him and speak commonsense over whatever issues are lingering on the Senate floor that has earned him much of the ire from his colleagues that we heard, as he battled and failed to win the GOP presidential nomination.

    After this past weekend’s terrorist attack/mass shooting in Orlando, the usual suspects (Democrats) began the drumbeat for gun control afresh.

    This limp-wristed, knee-jerk reaction to every gun tragedy is not without an ultimate goal.

    No, it’s not to prevent more gun deaths.

    A populace disarmed is a populace in chains. Democrats know this.

    On the Senate floor today, Senator Cruz took the Democrats to task.

    From Conservative Review:

    “This week played out all too predictably.” Cruz said. He blasted Democrats for shifting to gun-control and in particular characterized Senator Chris Murphy’s (F, 8%) filibuster as “a political show on the Senate floor.”

    And I have to add, the unwillingness of the Democrats to observe a moment of silence for Orlando’s victims, choosing instead to act as the unwashed mob and shout about their agenda instead shows how low Democrats have sunk. There is a time to talk business, but sometimes, decency dictates you make those small shows of unity.

    “This is political distraction; this is political gamesmanship.” Cruz said. “And I think the American people find it ridiculous … this is not a gun-control issue. This is a terrorism issue.”

    “You don’t defeat terrorism by taking away guns,” he added later, “you defeat terrorism by using guns.”



    Well said, Senator.

    Democrats, shame on you.



    And to think THAT was passed over for the Mango Messiah that can't form a coherent thought to save his spray tanned ass all the while he's already looking to deal away gun rights and throw judicial due process out the window before we've even had the election.

    Every person that supported Trump in the primary should hang their head in absolute shame for the situation they've put us in. We told you so...

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    Good speech from Ted.
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    Hope you folks are stocked up on the lube because otherwise, it's going in dry...




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    Word is Trump has just fired his campaign manager that helped him get the nomination. That's always a sign of a strong and well organized campaign...

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    I've seen people say Trump only got into the Presidential race to throw it to Hillary and considering Trump's personality I've never put a whole lot of stock in that theory but, when I see news like this, I really start to wonder.


    Donald Trump Starts Summer Push With Crippling Money Deficit

    June 20, 2016

    Donald J. Trump enters the general election campaign laboring under the worst financial and organizational disadvantage of any major party nominee in recent history, placing both his candidacy and his party in political peril.

    Mr. Trump began June with just $1.3 million in cash on hand, a figure more typical for a campaign for the House of Representatives than the White House. He trailed Hillary Clinton, who raised more than $28 million in May, by more than $41 million, according to reports filed late Monday night with the Federal Election Commission.

    He has a staff of around 70 people — compared with nearly 700 for Mrs. Clinton — suggesting only the barest effort toward preparing to contest swing states this fall. And he fired his campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, on Monday, after concerns among allies and donors about his ability to run a competitive race.

    The Trump campaign has not aired a television advertisement since he effectively secured the nomination in May and has not booked any advertising for the summer or fall. Mrs. Clinton and her allies spent nearly $26 million on advertising in June alone, according to the Campaign Media Analysis Group, pummeling Mr. Trump over his temperament, his statements and his mocking of a disabled reporter. The only sustained reply, aside from Mr. Trump’s gibes at rallies and on Twitter, has come from a pair of groups that spent less than $2 million combined.

    Mr. Trump’s fund-raising for May reflects his lag in assembling the core of a national finance team. In the same month that he clinched the Republican nomination, Mr. Trump raised just $3.1 million and was forced to lend himself $2 million to meet costs. Some invitations to Trump fund-raising events have featured the same short list of national Republican finance volunteers regardless of what city the event is held in, suggesting Mr. Trump has had some trouble lining up local co-hosts.

    A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not respond to an inquiry about the campaign’s spending plans. During an interview on Monday on CNN, Mr. Lewandowski defended the candidate’s bare-bones approach.

    “We are leaner, meaner, more efficient, more effective. Get bigger crowds. Get better coverage,” Mr. Lewandowski said. “If this was the business world, people would be commending Mr. Trump for the way he’s run this campaign.”

    But the shortfall is leaving Mr. Trump extraordinarily dependent on the Republican National Committee, which has seen record fund-raising this campaign cycle and, long before Mr. Trump even declared his upstart candidacy, had begun investing heavily in a long-range plan to bolster the party’s technical and organizational capacity.

    In a first for a major party nominee, Mr. Trump has suggested he will leave the crucial task of field organizing in swing states to the Republican National Committee, which typically relies on the party’s nominee to help fund, direct and staff national Republican political efforts. His decision threatens to leave the party with significant shortfalls of money and manpower: On Monday, the party reported raising $13 million during May, about a third of the money it raised in May 2012, when Mitt Romney led the ticket.

    “It’s like a waterfall,” said Brian O. Walsh, a Republican campaign strategist. “There are things that have to happen, and someone has to pay for them.”

    Mr. Trump’s cash crunch marks a stark reversal from the 2012 presidential campaign, which seemed to inaugurate a new era of virtually unlimited money in American politics, buoyed by the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision two years earlier. By the same point that year, President Obama and Mr. Romney were raising tens of millions of dollars per month with their parties. And while Mr. Romney faced a larger deficit overall against Mr. Obama in June 2012, he was raising far more money than Mr. Trump is now, with big donors flocking to his cause.

    “The campaign has got to be the entity that’s out there driving the fund-raising car,” said Austin Barbour, a lobbyist who served as national finance co-chairman of the Romney campaign. “And it better be a big old Cadillac.”

    Mr. Trump has defied conventional wisdom before, clinching the Republican nomination with a small organization and modest outlays on television. And Republican officials believe they are well prepared to compensate for Mr. Trump’s late start. The Republican National Committee has more than 500 field staff members on the ground in swing states, far more than in 2012, and a robust digital and data operation.

    Allies of Mr. Trump say they believe the tide is already turning. On Tuesday, Mr. Trump will appear at a high-dollar fund-raiser in New York City hosted by some of the most prominent names on Wall Street.

    Fund-raisers for Mr. Trump, who asked for anonymity to discuss internal discussions, said they were now hoping to raise up to $500 million in joint efforts with the Republican National Committee, or an average of $100 million a month from June through October. He is now reliably raising between $5 million and $7 million in each city where he raises money, those donors said.

    A joint fund-raising effort with Mr. Trump and 11 state Republican parties yielded the Republican National Committee $3 million in just five days at the end of May. Some of the largest checks came from a handful of wealthy Trump supporters who are not party mainstays, suggesting Mr. Trump could tap new sources of campaign money.

    But Mr. Romney was also backed by expansive network of deep-pocketed “super PACs” and other outside groups that collectively spent hundreds of millions of dollars in an effort to elect him. This year, the Democrats are leading in outside money. Priorities USA Action, a group focused on advertising in support of Mrs. Clinton, announced on Monday that it had raised $12 million in May and had $52 million on hand — a huge reserve.

    The outside spending effort to help Mr. Trump, by contrast, has been chaotic and underfunded, hampered by a profusion of competing groups, one of which has spent only $1 million so far on Mr. Trump’s behalf.

    The most prominent group, Great America, is advised by Ed Rollins, who managed Ronald Reagan’s 1984 campaign, and other more seasoned Republican operatives. But it, too, has had difficulty persuading big donors: On Monday, it reported raising just $1.4 million during the month of May.

    Fund-raising efforts for Mr. Trump have been hampered by the candidate’s own erratic public comments. He has repeatedly said he will pay for his own campaign even as his volunteers fan out around the country to solicit six-figure checks, confusing allies and potential donors alike.

    “Two days ago, he said, ‘I may fund it myself,’” Mr. Rollins said. “Donors are all being cautious about what’s going to happen here.”

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    I gotta ask... Why are rich people rich? Because they are tightwads.

    Why spend money when you have name recognition and there's aflood, a movement to get you into office?
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    Who has done a polling comparison of this election to 1980? I know Carter was up 20 points or some other nonsense prior to the vote. They were suggesting Reagan should just give up. LOL.

    You know what I see around here? I'm seeing Trump signs. I work in the bluest of the blue areas of the state and Trump signs are all over. You see an occasional Hillary for Prison 2016 and rarely, Hillary 2016.

    My totally anecdotal observation is that Trump takes NJ. Of course, I don't visit the hood.

    Funny, I heard a rumor that Trump is considering Mia love as a VP. That would really break the back of the "Trump is a racist, sexist, every-ist" possible crowd.


    The other observation I've noticed is that I think we've hit peak racism and in fact Peak "ism/ists"

    Racist no longer means anything, nor does sexist, misogynist or every other one of those labels.

    They've been overplayed. It's to the point that they can't even just call you one of them, they have to call you all of them.

    It's like an opiate junky who can't get high anymore except they've overdosed already and the patient is dead. The old words and labels just don't work anymore and it's about fucking time.
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