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    Crimea Without Power After Pylons Blown Up

    November 22, 2015


    Ukrainian authorities say the pylons were damaged by explosions or shelling

    Three-quarters of Crimea's population remain without power after four electricity pylons were blown up.

    Gas-powered generators have been providing power to major cities. A state of emergency has been declared.

    The pylons brought electricity from Ukraine. Engineers were reportedly denied access to the site by Ukrainian activists.

    Crimea was annexed by Russia last year, but the Ukrainian authorities have continued to supply power to the area.

    Images on social media show Ukrainian flags on some damaged pylons - and Crimean Tatar flags on others.

    Crimean authorities said they had managed to partially reconnect the cities of Simferopol, Yalta and Saky using generators.

    But more than 1.6 million people remain without power, and water supplies to high buildings have stopped and cable and mobile internet is down. Some 150 schools were also without power.

    "I had no electricity all night. These useless officials can't run the city and they still haven't built a local power station," a resident of Sevastopol told AFP news agency.

    "It's not the first time Ukraine has cut off electricity to Crimea, we are already used to power cuts and stock up on batteries," another one said.

    Mikhail Sheremet, Crimea's deputy prime minister, said the peninsula's hospitals had backup power sources and would not be affected.

    Two of the four main power lines were cut in an earlier attack on Friday, reports said.

    Ukrainian authorities said they encountered activists blockading the site when they tried to repair the damaged pylons.

    "The nature of the damage shows that it took place as a result of shelling or the use of explosive devices," Ukraine's state energy company Ukrenergo said in a statement.

    Ukrenergo said it hoped to finish all repairs within four days.

    Crimean Tatars, an ethnic group native to the peninsula who oppose Russian rule, held a protest at the site of the broken power lines in Kherson region, Russia's RIA news agency reported.

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    Russia Massing Tanks Near Crimean Dzhankoy At Border With Mainland Ukraine – Witnesses

    August 7, 2016

    Witnesses report large amounts of Russian military hardware have been massed near the towns of Dzhankoy and Armyansk in Crimea's north, close to the administrative border with mainland Ukraine.

    "Witnesses report that large groups of Russian military hardware have been massed near Armyansk and Dzhankoy. Dzhankoy has been cordoned off by troops with tanks and other equipment," Deputy Chairman of the Crimean Mejlis Nariman Dzhelalov wrote on Facebook on Sunday.



    According to earlier reports, the occupying authorities in Crimea blocked the checkpoints at the administrative border with mainland Ukraine on Sunday morning.

    "At about 07:00 local time today [Sunday, August 7], the Russian occupying authorities suspended, for unknown reasons, the handling of citizens and vehicles crossing the administrative border with Crimea," the press center of the State Border Service of Ukraine told UNIAN on Sunday.

    Further, the State Border Service said that the suspension was the reason why the Ukrainian side halted the work of the checkpoints at Kalanchak, Chaplynka, and Chonhar.




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    Putin Accuses Ukraine of Terror as Crimea Tensions Escalate

    August 10, 2016

    President Vladimir Putin promised to respond to what he called Kiev’s “terror” tactics in Crimea, raising the stakes as fighting between Ukrainian government forces and Russian-backed rebels intensifies in the country once again.

    The flare-up derailed plans to rekindle diplomatic talks over the war-ravaged region, with Putin telling reporters Wednesday in Moscow that a proposal to hold peace negotiations on the sidelines of a Group of 20 meeting in China next month is now “pointless.” His secret service earlier accused its counterpart in the neighboring country of having killed two Russian servicemen in two separate incidents during a covert operation on the disputed peninsula. Ukraine’s president called the accusations “cynical.”

    “We certainly won’t let such things pass by,” Putin said. “We will adopt additional security measures, and they will be very serious additional measures.”

    The Ukrainian conflict is back in the spotlight at a time when Putin is looking to ease the international isolation that began after he annexed Crimea in a 2014 operation that started during the Sochi Olympics. As he prepares for the G-20 summit, the Russian leader this week had talks with the presidents of Turkey, Iran and India, as well as the U.K. prime minister.

    Fighting Flares

    Fighting has flared in Ukraine’s easternmost regions, threatening to reignite the conflict that the United Nations estimates has killed at least 9,500 people. Ukraine’s military reports daily cease-fire violations. It said July was its deadliest month since August 2015, before a truce was signed, while the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe noted increased activity by border guards along the Crimean frontier this week.

    Two Russian servicemen died in separate incidents over the past week as security forces detained armed Ukrainian intelligence officers planning subversive acts in Crimea, the Federal Security Service, the main successor of the Soviet-era KGB that’s known as FSB, said on Wednesday.

    Ukraine denied involvement in any attacks and National Security and Defense Council head Oleksandr Turchynov in an e-mailed statement called the accusation an example of Russia’s “hybrid war.” President Petro Poroshenko said the accusation is “fiction” that could serve as an “excuse for further military threats," while he pledged to stay committed to politics and diplomacy to resolve the conflict.

    ‘Senseless, Cynical’

    "Russia accusing Ukraine of terrorism in occupied Crimea sound as senseless and cynical as the statement by Russian leadership that there are no Russian troops in” eastern Ukraine, Poroshenko said in a statement on his website. “It is precisely Russia that’s has been generously financing and actively supporting terrorism on Ukrainian territory."

    Asked about the Russian assertion of a Ukrainian attack, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau referred questions to the government in Kiev.

    “We don’t want to be distracted from the real issue here,which is not only Russia’s occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea, but their continued aggression in eastern Ukraine,” Trudeau told reporters in Washington Wednesday. “Our view on Crimea is well-known. Crimea is and will always be part of Ukraine.”

    Before the alleged attacks in Crimea, there had been a push to reduce tensions. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday the Kremlin backed a Ukrainian proposal for talks with France and Germany, called the Normandy format, at the G-20 meeting in Hangzhou, China, to attempt to restart the peace process. Lavrov also said the government in Moscow is “seriously concerned” by the uptick in violence.

    The OSCE said in a statement Wednesday that the border between Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula was closed at times this week and guards were on “heightened alert,” carrying rifles and scanning the area with binoculars. It also noted continued cease-fire violations by both sides in eastern Ukraine.

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    The pot continues to simmer...


    Ukraine Troops On High Alert As Tension With Russia Grows

    August 12, 2016

    Ukrainian troops have been placed on alert along the de facto border with Crimea and facing rebels in the east.

    The heightened tensions follow Russian accusations that Ukraine is carrying out armed incursions into Crimea.

    Ukraine's envoy to the UN asked Russia to provide evidence of the claims, and said some 40,000 Russian troops were massed on the Crimea-Ukraine border.

    His Russian counterpart told the UN Security Council of Moscow's "concern and outrage" at the alleged incursions.

    Crimea was annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014 after an unrecognised referendum.

    Ukraine's SBU security service said on Thursday night that the alert level was being raised to red because of "the escalation at the administrative border with Crimea" as well as in the eastern regions of Luhansk and Donetsk.

    Sporadic clashes continue in the east between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces despite a fragile ceasefire.

    Russia and Ukraine accuse each other of destabilising the situation as Ukraine prepares to celebrate the 25th anniversary of independence on 24 August, and Russia prepares for a parliamentary election on 18 September.

    'Bad Intentions'

    Meanwhile, Russian state TV has broadcast an apparent confession by a man named as Yevhen Panov, saying he was part of a Ukrainian defence ministry force sent into Crimea "to carry out acts of sabotage". He said the group also included officers of Ukraine's military intelligence.

    Reports in Ukraine say Mr Panov was a former volunteer fighter who has more recently been associated with a charitable organisation.

    In other developments:

    - The US state department has urged both sides to tone down their rhetoric, saying it has "the ability to escalate what is already a very tense situation"
    - Crimean leader Sergei Aksyonov has accused the US of being behind the alleged armed incursions, saying "Ukrainian officials wouldn't have had the courage for such actions"
    - Russian state-run TV reported that more than 2,500 Russian servicemen were currently taking part in a large-scale military exercise on the Black Sea
    - Russia has announced its two newest ships in the Black Sea Fleet - armed with cruise missiles - will begin exercises in the eastern part of the Mediterranean from 15 August

    At a meeting of the UN Security Council in New York, the ambassadors for Ukraine and Russia traded accusations.

    Ukraine demanded proof of its supposed incursions from Russia, while Russia said Ukraine should be bringing an end to the conflict in the east.

    Both envoys told the UN they hoped that tensions would not escalate further.

    'Dangerous Game'

    Russia's FSB intelligence agency on Wednesday said it had smashed a Ukrainian military intelligence network attempting incursions into Crimea over the weekend. "Heavy fire" from Ukrainian territory resulted in the death of a Russian soldier. An FSB employee died while trying to detain infiltrators, it said.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin accused the Ukrainian government in Kiev of "practising terror" and vowed to "not let such things slide by".

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko described the accusations as "preposterous", calling them a "pretext" from more threats.

    More than 9,500 people have been killed in the conflict in eastern Ukraine that followed the Russian annexation of Crimea, according to UN figures.

    The annexation, which was itself largely bloodless, followed a vote to secede at a referendum on self-determination on 16 March 2014 - a ballot which was not recognised internationally.

    The US and European Union imposed sanctions on Moscow in response to its seizure of the territory.

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    Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 5h
    U.S tanks & BMPs moved to Ukrainian border region
    post Saber Guardian exercise in Romania (via @M3t4_tr0n)









    Already Happened ‏@M3t4_tr0n 6h
    Breaking Update ☡:

    US moving tanks & armored vehicles to East Romania, Smârdan.
    (Note Ukraine flag on 3rd pic)

    Already Happened ‏@M3t4_tr0n 6h
    Again, This is not Exercise Saber Guardian 2016,
    it has ended on August 7, 2016.

    http://www.eur.army.mil/SaberGuardian/


    350km by road from Cincu to Smârdan, Romania (
    Google Map)
    https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Sm%C...2!2d45.9131613



    Simon Moores الدكتور ‏@SimonMoores 6h
    There's a worrying military build-up
    in the Baltics, Belarus Ukraine, Crimea and more.
    Mainstream media very quiet.




    Already Happened ‏@M3t4_tr0n 5h
    (2) #Breaking Update ☡:
    US moving tanks & armored vehicles to East Romania, Smârdan.














    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba Aug 13
    9K37 Buk SAM system on Kiev streets Ukraine


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...I83aBb0atU.mp4



    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba Aug 13
    Ukraine 2S19 "Msta-S" 152mm SP howitzer on Kiev streets.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...YFIqLu9MzL.mp4


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    Bill Gertz reporting on events now...


    Russian Military Forces Staging Near Ukraine

    EUCOM: ‘Extremely concerned’ by regional tensions

    August 17, 2016

    The Pentagon has identified eight staging areas in Russia where large numbers of military forces appear to be preparing for incursions into Ukraine, according to U.S. defense officials.

    As many as 40,000 Russian troops, including tanks, armored vehicles, and air force units, are now arrayed along Ukraine’s eastern border with Russia.

    Additionally, large numbers of Russian military forces will conduct exercises in the coming days that Pentagon officials say could be used as cover for an attack on Ukraine.



    “Russian units will likely practice reinforcing the [Crimean] peninsula through such activities as amphibious landings and air defense exercises, and this may involve the change out of equipment and long convoys of military vehicles,” one defense official said.

    The military exercises are an ominous sign. Similar large-scale Russian exercises were conducted near Ukraine a month before Moscow carried out the covert military operation to take over the strategic Black Sea peninsula in March 2014.

    Navy Capt. Danny Hernandez, a spokesman for the U.S. European Command, told the Washington Free Beacon that the upcoming Russian exercises are being closely monitored.

    “We are extremely concerned about the increased tensions near the administrative boundary between Crimea and the rest of Ukraine,” Hernandez said. “We urge both sides to avoid provocative steps or rhetoric that could escalate the situation.”

    Russian forces do not appear to be building up inside the occupied Crimean Peninsula along the border with Ukraine, he said.

    However, over the past several months large numbers of Russian troops and tanks have been moving into eight bases stretching from Yelnya, near Smolensk and northeast of Ukraine, southward through Rostov—a city located very close to eastern Ukraine.

    Defense officials said it is not clear whether the massing of forces is saber rattling by Moscow designed to coerce Ukraine into accepting the takeover of Crimea or preparations for further conflict. “Regardless of the reason, the warning time for Russian action has been greatly reduced” by the staging of forces near Ukraine, a second defense official said.

    Russian military forces were identified by the officials at eight locations near the Ukrainian border: Yelnya, Klintsy, Valuyki, Boguchar, Millerovo, Persianovskiy, and bases called Rostov-1 and Rostov-2.

    Rep. Mike Pompeo (R., Kan.) a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said Russia is continuing aggression and threats against the rest of Ukraine after invading Crimea.

    “This is unacceptable and will only serve to further instability in the region,” Pompeo said. “Unfortunately, President Obama is once again ‘leading from behind’ and is doing nearly nothing to buttress the Ukrainian people. Mr. Putin must respect the sovereignty of other nations. This is a non-negotiable lesson most countries learned long ago.”

    Wire service reports and online blogs have revealed satellite photos of the Russian military buildup at the eight locations.

    Reuters reported in June on the deployment of troops to Klintsy, and the website InformNapalm reported July 30 that armored units of the 28th Motorized Rifle Brigade were moved to a base near Valuyki, and at Rostov.

    A Russian military training camp reportedly was set up at Persianovskiy, located about 28 miles north of Rostov, according to a report by the online news outlet Bellingcat. Troops and aircraft at Millerovo also have been identified in satellite photos since 2015.

    Reuters reported in September that a Russian military base was being set up near Boguchar, and the blog Russian Military Analysis reported that a motorized rifle brigade was deployed last year to Yelnya.

    Mark Schneider, a former Pentagon official, said the troop movements are worrying signs that Moscow may be preparing for war with Ukraine.

    “There is lot of press in the last week about a possible Russian invasion of Ukraine including massing of troops,” said Schneider, now with the National Institute for Public Policy.

    Russia has denied reports that Moscow is considering breaking diplomatic relations with Ukraine. Ukraine’s government has ordered troops mobilized and placed on alert.

    Russia last week accused Ukraine of conducting covert sabotage operations against infrastructure inside Crimea, charges the Kiev government denied. Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that Russian forces in Crimea would be fortified as a result of the attempted sabotage. Putin is expected to visit Crimea later this week, Reuters reported from Moscow.

    Schneider said another troubling sign of possible Russian military action was the recent firing of Putin’s chief of staff, Sergei Ivanov, a former official of the KGB and FSB intelligence services. “Ivanov’s firing could be related to Putin’s desire not to have a powerful KGB/FSB general running the Kremlin when he is going to do something risky,” he said.

    Phillip Karber, a former U.S. arms control official who has traveled extensively in Ukraine war zones, identified several new military units at the eight locations, including up to two brigades of the newly established Russian First Guards Tank Army at Yelnya and Klintsy in the north, elements of the 20th Army located to the south of those units, and forces from the 49th Army deployed further south near Rostov.

    “The fact that a full scale Russian invasion is still a plausible scenario after 30 months of conflict is an abject repudiation of an American policy of ‘leading from behind’ and West European fetish for trying to find ‘off-ramps’ that Putin hasn’t the slightest interest in taking,” said Karber, now head of the Potomac Foundation.

    Karber believes Russian military action against Ukraine could take place and that Moscow’s trumped-up claims of a recent Ukrainian “terrorist” attack in Crimea could be used as a pretext.

    Russia appears to be shoring up forces in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he said. The upcoming military exercises will likely be conducted from areas that could facilitate an attack, using Russian forces deployed in Moldova’s Transnistria region and marine units on ships in the Black Sea, Karber said.

    “For the next month the terrain is perfect for armor moving cross-country and the skies are clear for air,” Karber said. “The 24th of August is Ukraine’s Independence Day, which is when the Russians attacked in 2014. A successful campaign, with U.S. and NATO doing nothing but verbiage, re-establishes Russia as a major European Power that has to be dealt with and increases Putin’s popularity at home.”

    Karber said a full-scale Russian military offensive likely would aim to seize key military-industrial areas such as the tank plant at Kharkiv, the missile factory at Dnepropetrovsk, the shipyard at Mykolyev, and the port of Odessa.

    Russian forces also could drive into Ukraine from the northeast to the outskirts of Kiev and place the capital within artillery range in a bid to force a change of government.

    “Loss of that much population, around 14 million people, and territory would effectively end Ukraine as a viable state,” Karber said, adding that the action would involve full-scale war, large numbers of refugees, and heavy casualties. It could also trigger anti-Russian guerrilla warfare.

    Still, Russia does not appear to have all the forces in place for a major military operation, he said.

    “The more aggressive and ambitious the attack, the further and longer it will isolate Russia from Western Europe, and it would gravely embarrass Putin’s favorite American presidential candidate and make his pro-Russian statements look naive and foolish at best, or worse, an apologist for the aggressor,” Karber said, referring to Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

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    If Russia goes into Ukraine and makes serious incursions into the country, look for Poland to mobilize and push in as well.

    That's when things get "interesting"...

    The word is (and may have even been posted in this thread previously) that they were seriously contemplating action when Russia took Crimea, if Russia had pushed deeper into Ukraine.

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    I really wonder what an Obama/Clinton Administration are really willing to do to stop Russia if she does start to move in.



    I see nothing substantial by this Administration to do anything productive to stop Russia from taking back their former territory.

    In fact, I think they are coming out of the closet with their Muslim friends kicking over every radical ant mound throughout the ME creating the "Cloward and Piven" Western immigration crisis.

    While and in league with their Soviet mentors being "Useful Idiots" to finish destroying America from within.

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    Leaked Memo Proves Soros Ruled Ukraine In 2014:
    Minutes From “Breakfast With US Ambassador Pyatt”


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    Submitted by Alex Christoforou of The Duran
    We noted in a previous post how important Ukraine was to George Soros,
    with documents from DC Leaks that show Soros, and his Open Society NGO,
    scouring the Greek media and political landscape to push the benefits of his
    Ukraine coup upon a Russian leaning Greek society.

    Now more documents, in the massive 2,500 leaked tranche, show the immense
    power and control Soros had over Ukraine immediately following the illegal
    Maidan government overthrow.

    Soros and his NGO executives held detailed and extensive meetings
    with just about every actor involved in the Maidan coup:
    from US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt, to Ukraine’s Ministers of Foreign
    Affairs, Justice, Health, and Education.

    The only person missing was Victoria Nuland, though we are sure
    those meeting minutes are waiting to see the light of day.


    Plans to subvert and undermine Russian influence and cultural ties to Ukraine
    are a central focus of every conversation. US hard power, and EU soft power,
    is central towards bringing Ukraine into the neo-liberal model that Soros champions,
    while bringing Russia to its economic knees.

    Soros' NGO, International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) plays a key role in
    the formation of the “New Ukraine”…the term Soros frequently uses
    when referring to his Ukraine project.

    In a document titled,
    "Breakfast with US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt",
    George Soros, (aka GS), discusses Ukraine’s future with:

    Geoffrey Pyatt (US Ambassador to Ukraine); David Meale (Economic
    Counsellor to the Ambassador); Lenny Benardo (OSF); Yevhen Bystrytsky
    (Executive Director, IRF); Oleksandr Sushko (Board Chair, IRF); Ivan
    Krastev (Chariman, Centre for Liberal Studies); Sabine Freizer (OSF);
    Deff Barton (Director, USAID, Ukraine)
    The meeting took place on March 31, 2014, just a few months
    after the Maidan coup, and weeks before a full out civil war erupted,
    after Ukraine forces attacked the Donbass.


    In the meeting, US Ambassador Pyatt outlines the general goal for fighting a PR war
    against Putin, for which GS is more than happy to assist.

    Ambassador: The short term issue that needs to be addressed will be
    the problem in getting the message out from the government
    through professional PR tools, especially given Putin’s own
    professional smear campaigns.


    GS: Agreement on the strategic communications issue—providing
    professional PR assistance to Ukrainian government would be
    very useful.
    Gave an overview of the Crisis Media Center set up by IRF
    and the need for Yatseniuk to do more interviews with them that address
    directly with journalists and the public the current criticisms of his decision
    making.
    Pyatt pushes the idea of decentralization of power for the New Ukraine, without moving
    towards Lavrov’s recommendation for a federalized Ukraine.

    GS notes that a federalization model would result in Russia gaining influence over
    eastern regions in Ukraine, something that GS strictly opposes.

    Ambassador: Lavrov has been pushing the line about constitutional
    reform and the concept of federalization in Russia.

    The USG reaffirmed it will not negotiate over the heads of the Ukrainians
    on the constitutional reform issue and that Ukraine needs to decide on this
    issue for itself. He noted that there are templates for devolution that can be
    used in this context but that the struggle will be to figure out how to
    move forward with decentralization without feeding into Russian
    agenda.


    GS: Federalization plan being marketed by Putin to Merkel and Obama
    would result in Russia gaining influence and de facto control over
    eastern regions in Ukraine.
    He noted Lavrov has clear instructions from
    Putin to push the line on federalization.

    Ambassador: Secretary Kerry would be interested to hear GS’s views
    on the situation directly, upon return from his trip.

    SF: There is no good positive model for federalization in region, even
    models of decentralization are very poor because the concept is not very
    common. The institutions need for decentralization do not yet exist and
    need to be built.

    YB: Ukraine should pursue a decentralization policy based on the Polish
    decentralization model. IRF funded the development of a plan based
    on this model previously and those involved are now advisers to
    government on this issue.
    Noted it is also important to encourage the
    constitution council created by government to be more open and involve
    independent experts.

    Ambassador: Constitutional reform issue as the most urgent issue facing
    Ukraine—there is a need to decentralize in order to push democracy down
    to the local level and break the systemic corruption that results from Kiev’s
    authority over the local governments.

    Ambassador: Russian propaganda machine telling Kharkhiv
    and Donbass residents that the government in Western Ukraine
    is looking to take away their resources and rights through
    decentralization process, feeding into Lavrov’s line that the
    Ukrainian government is dysfunctional and not successful
    as a unitary state, making it a necessity to have federalization.
    The participants cannot stop fixating on Russia and Putin throughout the meeting.
    The Ukraine project seems to be more about sticking it to Russia, then about
    saving a country about to fall into the abyss.

    US Ambassador Pyatt hands over full control to George Soros, and point blank
    asks him, “what USG should be doing and what the USG is currently doing.”

    Soros’ response is stunning, “Obama has been too soft on Putin.”

    Ambassador: Asked GS for a critique of US policy and his thoughts on what
    USG should be doing.

    GS: Will send Ambassador Pyatt copies of correspondences he previously
    sent to others and his article in NY Review of Books. Obama has been
    too soft on Putin, and there is a need to impost potent smart sanctions.


    He noted the need for a division of labor between the US and the EU
    with the US playing the bad cop role. The USG should impose sanctions
    on Russia for 90 days or until the Russian government recognizes
    the results of the presidential elections.
    He noted that he is most
    concerned about transitional justice and lustration.

    Ambassador: USG will organize conference with the British at the
    end of April on financial crimes that will bring together senior level
    government officials and representatives of the international
    community to discuss where money went.


    He noted his worries about the complete implosion of the Party of Regions
    and will be speaking to IRI and NDI about offering assistance to reconstruct
    the party for the post-Yanukovych era.
    US Ambassador Pyatt decides to take out Tymoshenko from the New Ukraine equation.

    She served her purpose as a poor and sick political prisoner while Yanukovich was
    in power, saying that “Tymoshenko is associated with everything undignified”…

    Ambassador: Personal philosophy on the greatest need for Ukraine right
    now is the need for national unification. This will not happen under
    Tymoshenko because she is perceived as a hold over of the old
    regime and a very divisive personality. He calls the revolution
    a “revolution of dignity” and Tymoshenko is associated with
    everything undignified.


    GS: Need to cleanse the “original sin” that all of the current presidential
    candidates are marked with in order for Ukraine to move forward.
    Concern over the Pravy Sector, and how to disarm, or integrate, the muscle that
    was used to instigate much of the violence during the Maidan is debated.

    Soros even throws out his suspicion that the Privy Sector has been infiltrated,
    and now is working under Russia’s FSB.

    GS: Belief that the Pravy Sector is an FSB plot and has been funded
    to destabilize Ukraine

    Ambassador: Agreed that this was at least partly true, but the
    problem now is that Pravy Sector has become organic and is still
    armed. There is a need for the government to figure out how to
    demobilize and disarm the Pravy Sector.


    GS: How can we defend against Putin’s attempts to destabilize
    the May elections?

    Ambassador: The international community should send in a flood of
    observers from the OSCE and other institutions. The US Embassy is also
    currently working with the local intelligence agencies to monitor
    the situation and they have already found Russian agents. He noted that
    a second ambassador, Cliff Bond, will be brought into the embassy to focus
    on the longer term questions such as decentralization, lustration, e-governance,
    and anti-corruption and will be coordinating with the donor community
    on these issues.


    Obama has instructed the embassy to focus primarily on economic
    support and assistance for Ukraine, avoiding military support or assistance.


    GS: Hopes that going forward there will be close contact and cooperation
    between the US Embassy and the IRF.
    The Full PDF of the 2014 George Soros minutes can be downloaded
    here: - Ukraine Working Group 2014-gs ukraine visitmarch 2014note.

    The meeting minutes documented present a clear and conclusive case that George
    Soros and his International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) manipulated
    Ukraine into moving towards an untenable and self destructive direction.

    In one meeting under the title, Civil Society Roundtable Meeting, Crimea fifth column
    schemes are advanced as viable solutions to those participating in the discussion.




    Likewise we see how involved Soros was in making sure a Ukraine under federalisation
    is completely undermined at the highest levels, influencing Merkel and Obama to
    reject such initiatives.

    In hindsight it has now become clear that the only way Ukraine was going to survive
    the coup in one piece was to move towards a federalised model of governance.
    He [George Soros] noted that Ukraine is in grave danger because
    Putin knows he cannot allow the new Ukraine to succeed. He reiterated
    his points about the conversations Putin has had with Merkel
    and Obama about federalism and his concerns surrounding that
    development.


    He noted that he hasn’t had direct feedback yet regarding this issue
    and is basing his worries on second hand information about the reactions
    of Merkel and Obama. But he reiterated the need for the Ukrainian
    government to respond loudly and immediately.

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    Russia presses charges against Ukraine’s defense minister,
    top brass for Donbass attacks


    August 24, 10:56 UTC+3
    http://tass.com/politics/895635

    The case has been opened into the use of prohibited means of warfare



    Ukrainian Defence Minister Stepan Poltorak
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    MOSCOW, August 24. /TASS/. Russia’s Investigative Committee (IC)
    said on Wednesday it has launched a criminal case against Ukraine’s
    defense minister and its chief of general staff over the artillery shelling
    of civilians in Donbass.

    “The investigators have received sufficient data that illegal actions
    against civilians were carried out on orders of Ukraine’s top
    military leadership
    ,” the investigative committee said.

    A criminal case has been opened into the use of prohibited means
    of warfare.


    Criminal charges have been filed against Ukrainian Defense Minister
    Stepan Poltorak, Chief of General Staff Viktor Muzhenko, Ukrainian
    Ground Forces Commander Sergey Popko, former Ukrainian Ground
    Forces Commander Anatoly Pushnyakov and the Commander of
    Ukraine’s National Guard Yuri Allerov.

    Russia’s Investigative Committee is currently conducting an investigation
    into the illegal use of prohibited means of warfare by Ukraine’s armed
    forces in the country’s southeast. Investigators have obtained facts that
    the Ukrainians have repeatedly violated the ceasefire regime in the region
    this year.

    On Monday, Ukrainian Chief Prosecutor Yuri Lutsenko told reporters
    the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine has opened a criminal case
    against Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu and 17 other
    high-ranking officials.

    Kiev opens criminal case against Russian defense minister, other top officials



    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-uk...-idUSKCN1130O1

    WORLD NEWS | Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:51pm EDT

    Germany, Poland and France call for more efforts to end Ukraine crisis

    The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Poland agreed on Sunday there should be greater international efforts to end the fighting in eastern Ukraine, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier told reporters.

    He said there had not been sufficient progress in implementing the Minsk ceasefire agreement. Western officials were talking with Russia and Ukraine to encourage them to implement measures already agreed in the Minsk process, including communal elections, he said.

    "We have to work for a de-escalation of the situation," he told reporters after a meeting with his counterparts aimed at reinvigorating the Weimar Triangle trilateral group.

    Steinmeier said the group also wanted to reassure Europeans about the continued importance and relevance of the European Union after the June 23 vote by Britain to exit the bloc.

    "The Weimar Triangle can plan an important role ... It is a format where we can discuss progress or the lack of progress on issues such as the Normandy format aimed at ending the Ukraine conflict," Steinmeier said.

    The Normandy group comprises Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany.

    Steinmeier said fresh efforts began in recent days to revive talks between Russia and Ukraine and pressure both sides to honor agreements they had already made.

    The leaders of Russia, Germany and France have agreed to meet to discuss the situation in Ukraine on Sept. 4-5 in China on the sidelines of the G20 summit, the Kremlin said last week.

    ALSO IN WORLD NEWS

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    A recent surge in fighting in eastern Ukraine, where Kiev is fighting pro-Russian separatists, and fresh tension in Crimea have raised concern that a fragile ceasefire agreed in Minsk in February 2015 could collapse.

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said last week he did not rule out introducing martial law and a new wave of military mobilization if the separatist conflict worsened.

    (Reporting by Andrea Shalal; editing by Andrew Roche)


    Alex Bukovsky ‏@BungeeWedgie 7h
    The US army in Europe commander is near Donbas frontline.
    Clearly Russia is meddling in the Ukraine conflict.





    Alex Bukovsky ‏@BungeeWedgie 5h
    Two US citizens in Ukraine .
    One is a minister in UA gov.
    the other is the commander of US military in Europe.





    Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi Aug 29
    Roma flee a Southern Ukraine village
    after pogroms in a police corridor yday, even leave possessions behind




    Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi Aug 28
    The whole Roma community is being evicted now
    from a village in Odessa region following pogroms. 2016. Europe.


    Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi Aug 28
    Ukraine police statements overemphasizing the alleged killer's Roma nationality
    over & over again are disgraceful & outright dumb. Jesus



    Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi Aug 28
    Watch people attacking Roma houses in Southern Ukraine
    as police does absolutely nothing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLj1XAkKkdA




    Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi 22h
    Roma pogroms in Southern Ukraine:
    hard to believe anything like that is still possible in Europe circa 2016.


    Maxim Edwards ‏@MaximEdwards 22h
    @MaximEristavi But it is awful.
    Luckily it has gained some traction in international media:

    http://www.euronews.com/2016/08/28/r...kraine-village

    _______


    Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi Aug 29
    Ukraine silently releases 13 people from secret prisons.
    @amnesty demands investigation

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...ret-detention/




    Shaun Walker ‏@shaunwalker7 Aug 29
    More shocking info from Amnesty/HRW
    on SBU secret detention prison in Ukraine today.




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    I am so confused on who is fighting whom now.
    Libertatem Prius!


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    Malinka ‏@Malinka1102 5h
    .@BungeeWedgie Ukraine US army/Europe commander on the frontline
    - "practical cooperation"

    http://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/4...l_force_photos





    Malinka ‏@Malinka1102 5h
    .@GosseVuijk You mean Minsk Agreement was written only for Donbass side?
    @BungeeWedgie @thierrybaudet




    Minsk Protocol
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol


    Map of the buffer zone established by the Minsk Protocol follow-up memorandum

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    NATO ‏@NATO Aug 31
    US Marines perform their first ever amphibious landing in Ukraine
    alongside their Ukrainian allies in the Black Sea

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-qvucWIATw








    U.S. Marines, sailors flex their amphibious muscles
    in Russia's backyard


    By: Lance M. Bacon,
    August 13, 2016
    https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/sto...yard/88333538/

    U.S. Marines and sailors recently teamed with other NATO allies during
    a major show of force in Ukraine amid growing concerns about a Russian
    military plus-up on the Crimean border.

    Troops from 16 nations completed Exercise Sea Breeze, which was held
    just a couple of hundred miles from the Crimean Peninsula, on July 30.
    U.S. military officials tout the annual air, land and maritime exercise
    as a way to enhance interoperability and strengthen regional security
    in a volatile region marked by the 2014 Russian incursion of Crimea
    and continuing civil war in Ukraine, which borders Russia.

    “This year’s Sea Breeze exercise is definitely a signal to Russia,” said
    Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary
    Assessments who previously served as special assistant to the chief
    of naval operations and director of his Commander’s Action Group.

    “It is in part to demonstrate to Russia that U.S. and NATO forces will
    still operate adjacent to Russian territory and forces despite Russia's
    protests.


    Also, the situation in eastern Ukraine is reaching a new boiling point
    and may result in a more intense conflict erupting again this fall.

    If followed up with clear statements from the U.S. about how the U.S.
    will respond to new Russian aggression, exercises like this are a way
    to indicate to Russia American resolve.”

    U.S. Marines with 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit and Ukrainian soldiers
    travel in an assault amphibious vehicle during Exercise Sea Breeze 2016.

    In addition to signaling resolve, the exercise served as
    a way to practice the kind of amphibious operations
    that could be used to suppress or isolate Russian naval
    forces in Crimea and Sevastopol, he said.


    "Showing the ability to execute this kind of operation,
    even if the U.S. doesn't want to do it, will help remind
    Russia that their forces outside Russia may be vulnerable
    to attack," Clark said.


    This year’s exercise included 26 ships, 20 aircraft, 140 vehicles,
    and 4,000 international troops from the U.S., Ukraine, Bulgaria,
    the United Kingdom, Greece, Georgia, Italy, Spain, Lithuania,
    Moldova, Norway, Poland, Romania, Turkey, Sweden and Finland.

    The U.S. Navy sent two ships to participate for the first time:
    the amphibious dock landing ship Whidbey Island and guided-missile
    destroyer Ross. About 205 members of Battalion Landing Team,
    1st Battalion, 6th Marines — deployed with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary
    Unit — also participated.

    During the exercise, Marines and sailors teamed with more than a dozen
    Ukrainian troops for a mock amphibious landing. Fifteen amphibious
    assault vehicles covered nearly 4 nautical miles to Odessa, then moved
    about 13 miles by land to establish a blocking position at two separate
    bridges in Bazar’yanka, said 2nd Lt. Marco Valenzuela, a Marine spokesman.

    It was the first time the MEU used AAVs to transport the Expeditionary
    Fire Support System, a 120mm mortar used to support infantry units with
    indirect fire support. Since Ukraine has nothing like the AAV, basic matters
    such as opening the hatch and getting secure in the seat proved
    challenging, said Cpl. Trenton Murry, an AAV crew chief with Charlie
    Company who carried three Ukrainians in the back of his hog.

    “The biggest challenge was the language barrier,” he said. “It was difficult
    at first trying to convey what you wanted accomplished, but we did find
    out that their basic hand and arm signals for infantry movements are
    quite similar to ours.”

    Despite the communication challenges, the exercise allowed the grunts
    to step outside of their comfort zone and flex their capabilities, said
    Maj. Jeffrey Erb, Charlie Company's commander.

    “We tried a few new things,” he said. “We took the opportunity to
    integrate our heavy mortar systems into the AAVs and it worked out
    really well. It definitely opens up that option for us in the future.”

    In addition to the amphibious landing, members of Fleet Anti-Terrorism
    Security Team Company Europe teamed with Seabees from Naval Mobile
    Construction Battalion 133 and Ukrainian marines with their 36th
    Engineering Regiment to learn how to use triple strand concertina wire
    in defensive positions. Ukrainian troops also conducted their first
    helocast, jumping 20 feet from a helicopter into the open ocean.

    “The threats and challenges in which our military forces have to deal with
    these days are much wider than they used to be,” Ivanna Klympush-
    Tsintsadze, vice prime minister of Ukraine for European and Euro-Atlantic
    Integration, said at the ceremony that opened the exercise.

    “The capability of the military forces is not only about numbers of
    personnel or the quality or quantity of armaments, but it about military
    professionalism.”
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    US To Send Anti-Tank Missiles To Ukraine

    December 23, 2017

    President Donald Trump is expected to announce his approval of a plan to sell anti-tank missiles to the Ukrainian government, a move that would mark a significant escalation in lethal U.S. military support for Ukrainian forces battling Russian-aligned forces in the border region, four State Department sources tell ABC News.

    If the president formally signs off, the plan will be presented to Congress for a 30-day review period where it would need to be approved before the State Department can implement it.

    The sale of anti-tank missiles, which could possibly include the U.S.-made Javelin system, provoked a strong reaction from Russia on Saturday, saying it "crossed the line," and could threaten to derail Trump’s calls for better relations with Moscow.

    The total defense package of $47 million includes the sale of 210 anti-tank missiles and 35 launchers. Additional supplies will need to be purchased, according to a senior State Department official.

    “We have nothing to announce at this time,” National Security Council spokesperson Marc Raimondi told ABC News.

    In a statement, State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert told ABC News: "The United States has decided to provide Ukraine enhanced defensive capabilities as part of our effort to help Ukraine build its long-term defense capacity, to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to deter further aggression. U.S. assistance is entirely defensive in nature, and as we have always said, Ukraine is a sovereign country and has a right to defend itself. The United States remains committed to the Minsk agreements as the way forward in eastern Ukraine. We have no further comment, at this time."

    Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's deputy foreign minister, responded harshly to the news of the pending deal in a statement on Saturday.

    "The United States in a certain sense crossed the line, announcing the intention to transfer weapons of direct damaging action to Ukraine," the statement said, translated from Russian. "American weapons can lead to new victims in our neighboring country, to which we cannot remain indifferent."

    Earlier this week, the Kremlin condemned Trump’s approval to allow the commercial sale of small arms and light weapons to Ukraine.

    Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said that sale “will once again motivate the hotheads” in the Ukrainian government and "unleash bloodshed again." The head of the Russian parliament’s defense committee, Vladimir Shamanov, also condemned it as a “sophisticated and irresponsible step.”

    A State Department source stressed that the move to supply even more powerful anti-tank missile is purely for defensive purposes.

    ABC News first reported that the inter-agency memo has been sitting on the president’s desk for weeks.

    If Trump announces his approval, the memo will likely make its way to Capitol Hill. Congress has 30 days to approve the measure. There is broad support by Senate Republicans.

    After the announcement of the sale of smaller lethal weapons, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said that Trump should take the next step and approve the sale of anti-tank missiles.

    “I urge the President to authorize additional sales of defensive lethal weapons, including anti-tank munitions, and to fully utilize security assistance funds provided by the Congress to enable Ukraine to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity,” McCain said in a statement.

    As violence in the eastern region accelerates between the Ukrainians and separatists supported by Russia, the Ukrainian government has made it clear that they are in dire need of offensive hardware.

    The death toll stands at over 10,000 people since fighting began in 2014, according to a December report by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

    The war has been at a standstill along the eastern front since Russia seized Crimea in 2014.

    “What we are awaiting and have called for is the provision of lethal defense weapons that are more advanced — a larger package that is under consideration right now, including anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles,” a Ukrainian official told ABC News earlier this week. “We are expecting this decision and would welcome it.”

    President Barack Obama considered selling and financing anti-tank missiles to Ukraine in theory but never approved the measure, despite being pushed by his National Security Council team, according to a former NSC official.

    The U.S. military’s European Command is moving ahead with the plan for the weapons to be delivered, according to a senior State Department source.

    Trump promised a reset with Russia, but there has been concern that arming the Ukrainians might hamper that move. Nonetheless, a source close to the President said he has been supportive of the decision despite concerns from allies about how it will provoke Russia.

    The president’s likely approval of the arms deal is a major shift from the Republican party platform on sending lethal weapons to Ukraine, which was amended when Trump was the party's nominee for president, from supporting "lethal defensive arms" to Ukraine to the more vague "appropriate assistance” — language that ran counter to traditional Republican foreign policy.

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    What if America started to fall and began having communist riots and civil unrest everywhere. Then Russia suddenly moved into Alaska and turned south into the lower 48 with no strong allies willing to stick their necks out to help. Apparently, if you wanted to defend your country at any cost the socialist MSM (useful idiots) would call you a radical nationalist movement.

    The children trained to kill Russians: Boys and girls as young as EIGHT are taught to fire AK-47s at Ukrainian nationalist camp


    • Temper of Will is a radical nationalist youth camp that teaches children to defend their country from Russians
    • Some of the training drills include campers being woken in the middle of the night with a blast from grenade
    • Organised by the nationalist Svoboda party, children are taught to not think of their targets as human beings


    By Bhvishya Patel For Mailonline and Associated Press
    Published: 03:08 EST, 12 November 2018 | Updated: 20:36 EST, 12 November 2018
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    A radical nationalist youth camp in Ukraine is training children to defend their country from Russian invasion.


    The summer camp in Ternopil, whose youngest combats are as young as eight, has been accused of violence and racism but have played a central volunteer role in Ukraine's conflict with Russia.

    Hidden in a forest in the west of the country, boys and girls at the 'Temper of will' camp - organised by the nationalist Svoboda party - are taught to carefully aim their assault rifles as their instructor offers the advice: 'Don't think of your target as a human being'.



    Children at the 'Temper of will' summer camp, organised by the nationalist Svoboda party, are taught how to form tactical formations with AK-47 assault riffles in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



    At the nationalist camp children as young as eight are seen holding assault rifles. They are taught to kill Russians and their sympathisers



    Along with spreading nationalist ideology the camp trains children to defend their country from Russian invasion. Earlier this year, the Ministry of Youth and Sports earmarked 4 million hryvnias (about $150,000) to fund some of the youth camps

    The camp has two purposes: to train children to defend their country from Russians and their sympathizers - and to spread nationalist ideology.
    'We never aim guns at people,' instructor Yuri 'Chornota' Cherkashin tells them.

    'But we don't count separatists, little green men, occupiers from Moscow, as people. So we can and should aim at them.'

    The nationalists have been accused of violence and racism, but they have played a central, volunteer role in Ukraine's conflict with Russia - and they have maintained links with the government.

    Earlier this year, the Ministry of Youth and Sports earmarked 4 million hryvnias (about $150,000) to fund some of the youth camps among the dozens built by the nationalists. The purpose, according to the ministry, is 'national patriotic education.'



    Young participants and instructors at the camp stand in formation as they sing the national anthem in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



    A member of Sokil (Falcon), the youth wing of the nationalist Svoboda party, stands in a forest as he guides participants to the 'Temper of will' summer camp



    Yuri 'Chornota' Cherkashin, head of Sokil (Falcon), the youth wing of the nationalist Svoboda party, is pictured giving tactical instructions to young participants of the 'Temper of will' summer camp. He tells his students: 'We never aim guns at people. But we don't count separatists, little green men, occupiers from Moscow as people, so we can and should aim at them'

    Ministry spokeswoman Natalia Vernigora said the money is distributed by a panel which looks for 'signs of xenophobia and discrimination, it doesn't analyse activities of specific groups.'

    Cherkashin is a veteran of the fight against pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine; he was wounded in combat and later came to lead Sokil, or Falcon, the youth wing of the Svoboda party.

    It is important, he says, to inculcate the nation's youth with nationalist thought, so they can battle Vladimir Putin's Russia as well as 'challenges that could completely destroy' European civilization.



    Pictured: A young boy of the summer camp buttons up a camouflage shirt as he prepares for an exercise in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine. Children at the camp are taught to shoot to kill Russians and their sympathisers



    Head of Sokil Yuri 'Chornota' Cherkashin pictured sitting with his AK-47 rifle at the 'Temper of will' summer camp. He is a veteran of the fight against pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine



    Young boys sit inside a tent with their AK-47 riffles as they receive instructions during a tactical exercise in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine

    Among those challenges: LGBT rights, which lecturers denounce as a sign of Western decadence.

    'You need to be aware of all that,' said instructor Ruslan Andreiko.

    'All those gender things, all those perversions of modern Bolsheviks who have come to power in Europe and now try to make all those LGBT things like gay pride parades part of the education system.'

    While some youths dozed off during lectures, others paid attention, some were receptive.

    During a break in training, a teenager played a nationalist march on his guitar. It was decorated with a sticker showing white bombs hitting a mosque, under the motto, 'White Europe is Our Goal.'



    Children gather in-between exercises in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine. At the camp they are taught to challenge LGBT rights which is seen as a sign of Western decadence



    When he manages to grab a moment away a young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp uses his mobile phone to call his parents



    Pictured: Campers are seen holding a plank position before having dinner at the nationalist youth camp in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



    Instructor Georgiy Barylenko (left) holds a flashlight as he walks with a young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp during a night drill



    A young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp takes position with her unloaded AK-47 riffle during a night exercise in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



    The purpose of the camp is twofold: to train children to defend their country and to spread nationalist ideology



    A young camper plays a guitar decorated with a sticker depicting bombs hitting a mosque, as others sing around a bonfire in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine

    Aside from the lectures - and songs around the campfire - life for the several dozen youths at the Svoboda camp was hard.

    Campers were awakened in the middle of the night with a blast from a stun grenade. Stumbling out of their tents, soldiers in training struggled to hold AK-47s that were, in some cases, almost as tall as they were.

    They were required to carry the heavy rifles all day, and one of the girls broke down in tears from exhaustion.

    At 18, Mykhailo was the oldest of the campers. The training, he said, was necessary.

    'Every moment things can go wrong in our country. And one has to be ready for it,' he said. 'That's why I came to this camp. To study how to protect myself and my loved ones'



    During one tactical exercise a young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp is seen grabbing his AK-47 rifle. Youths are the camp are taught to not see there target as a human being



    18-year-old Mykhailo, pictured adjusting his AK-47 rifle, was the oldest of the campers. He said: 'Every moment things can go wrong in our country. And one has to be ready for it'



    Instructor Georgiy Barylenko, holds a flare as he instructs young participants of the 'Temper of will' summer camp, organised by the nationalist Svoboda party, during a night drill in the village.

    Sadly this is another lingering gift from the Obama Administration...



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    RUSSIANS PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE IN DECEMBER 2008
    Obama starts World War III in Crimea




    December 26, 2008

    Under the new U.S. President Barack Obama in the Crimea will be implemented scenario of armed conflict. "It is the American scenario, and under Obama the probability is much higher than under McCain," - said at a roundtable in Kiev, Russian political scientist Andrei Okara, said "New Region".

    Expert explains: "It became clear when it was announced that what people will represent the Obama team. These are people whose professional registration - Wall Street. These people are engaged in a technology called" technologies of controlled chaos. "

    According to Okara, after Georgia area "controlled chaos" in the first place, was to be the Ukraine, namely - Crimea. "This is the point of a fire, including global conflicts that escalate into a world war, which, unfortunately, is one of the scenarios, the implementation of which at the moment from the real" - says the analyst.

    His colleague from the Ukrainian Institute of Russia Andrey Blinov agree that Russia is not interested in such a conflict. "When people talk about the war in the Crimea or in the hamlet St. Michael, I believe that this scenario is marginal. A question more active economic participation of Russian capital is very likely. But it depends on when the crisis is over. If in 2010, while Russia will be much weaker, "- said the expert.

    U.S. ambitions toward Crimea confirmed and signed recently the Ukrainian-American Charter on Strategic Partnership. The Charter provides for the unconditional recognition of the sovereignty of Ukraine and its integration into NATO, increased U.S. presence in the Crimea and other forms of cooperation. U.S. Ambassador William Taylor in Kiev, however, reassured: "The Charter does not oblige any one of the two parties to assist military means." And he added, if the boundaries are violated, "we will meet and discuss our next steps."

    In the second section of the paper devoted to defense and security, said the interest of both countries to "a strong, independent, democratic Ukraine", whose integration into European structures "is a mutual priority." This section reiterates that Ukraine will join NATO. In the meantime, "recognizing the global threat to stability in the world, to prevent them Ukraine and the United States will strengthen their cooperation in defense and security issues," - said the Ambassador. In addition, Taylor mentioned and concrete steps to improve the level of training and military supplies for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    The fifth section is devoted to the expansion of human contacts and cooperation in the field of culture: Ukraine, as follows from the text (as submitted by Taylor), "welcomes the intention of the United States to increase its diplomatic presence in the Crimea." Format presence on the peninsula is still under discussion, "but it may be a structure with certain consular functions."

    The document also refers to the support of Kiev against Moscow on withdrawal of Russian Black Sea Fleet from Crimea.

    The fact that Crimea is the most promising ground for destabilization beneficial both Americans and official Kyiv, observers say not the first month. Periodically pop up in the media, various scenarios by which the Ukrainian "Democrats" try to blow this "powder keg" redirecting claims to Russia. Proclivities pro-Russian activists Peninsula (like attempts to regain the Crimea to Russia through the court ) at the same time severely punished, but to complete victory over SBU "dissidents", judging by the numerous symptoms, far away.

    Provocations on the "Crimean direction" really can not be avoided, we are convinced, in turn, Ukrainian Communists. U.S. prepares to throw to the east (aiming at this, of course, in Russia), but first they need to break the pro-Russian Crimea, ex-speaker of the Crimean parliament, Verkhovna Rada deputy Leonid Grach. Scheduled for next year open a representative office in Simferopol U.S. - the same series.

    The fact that Ukraine is in range of the attention of the new U.S. president, analysts have stated previously. Obama will counterbalance Russia Ukraine, said political analyst Sergei Taran: "The first time the Ukrainians may be neglected by the United States, as Obama will be busy with internal problems the United States. But in the long term efforts of the U.S. Obama will resume his authority in Europe, and in the long term, the new U.S. administration will pay particular attention to Ukraine, which could be a counterbalance to Russia in the region, and in the future - even counterbalance the old Europe example of modern Poland. "

    Ukraine will remain for the United States deterrent to Russia, agrees Ukrainian political analyst Andrei Yermolaev. According to him, Ukraine for American policy has been and remains instrumental object that is used in a rather cynical strategies.

    Most "visionary" already hard rehearsing for the upcoming bout Crimea : from the opera - held recently in Kiev command post exercise on "Actions volunteer units on the Crimean theater of operations after the Russian military aggression." Organizers merrymaking (National Salvation Committee, which includes the party "Brotherhood" and "New Force" and association "Northern Brotherhood") argue that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which will be held no later than 2011, the entire burden of resistance will be on voluntary organizations. Scenario Campaign General Staff of the Armed Forces has already been developed, sure "roleplayers".




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    Is Barack Obama Actually TRYING To Start World War III?

    By Michael Snyder
    Global Research, October 15, 2015
    The Economic Collapse Blog 12 October 2015

    Region: Middle East & North Africa
    Theme: Media Disinformation, Terrorism



    Why has Barack Obama airdropped 50 tons of ammunition into areas that “moderate rebels” in Syria supposedly control? This is essentially the equivalent of poking the Russians directly in the eyes. Much of this ammunition will end up in the hands of those that the Russians are attempting to bomb into oblivion, and so to Russia it appears that we are attempting to make their job much harder. And of course the truth is that there aren’t really any “moderate rebels” in Syria at all. Nearly all of the groups that are fighting are made up primarily of radical jihadists and/or hired mercenaries. Personally, I don’t see anyone over there that you could call “the good guys”. At the end of the day, the U.S. supports just about anyone that wants to get rid of the Assad regime, and the Russians are working very hard to keep Assad in power.

    Just like the civil war in Ukraine, the conflict in Syria is in great danger of being transformed into a proxy war between the United States and Russia, and many fear that these conflicts could eventually be setting the stage for World War III.
    The ferocity of Russian airstrikes in Syria has surprised observers all over the planet, and over the past couple of days these airstrikes have been extended to include some new areas

    Russian Air Forces have extended the range of their airstrikes on Islamic State positions in Syria to four provinces, focusing primarily on demolishing fortified installations and eliminating supply bases and the terrorists’ infrastructure.

    Over the last 24 hours Russian aircraft have attacked terrorist positions in the Hama, Idlib, Latakia and Raqqa provinces of Syria. In total, 64 sorties targeted 63 Islamic State installations, among them 53 fortified zones, 7 arms depots, 4 training camps and a command post.

    When I read reports like this, I am deeply troubled. The Obama administration claims that it has been bombing ISIS positions in Syria for over a year. So why in the world do these targets still exist? Was the U.S. military incapable of finding these installations? That doesn’t seem likely. So why weren’t they destroyed long ago? Did the Obama administration not want them destroyed for some reason? What seems abundantly clear is that the Russians are doing what the Obama administration was either unwilling or unable to do. There is now mass panic among ISIS fighters, and thousands of them are fleeing the country


    An estimated 3,000 Islamic State fighters as well as militants from other extremist groups have fled Syria for Jordan fearing a renewed offensive by the Syrian army in addition to Russian airstrikes, a military official has told RIA news agency.

    “At least 3,000 militants from Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), al-Nusra and Jaish al-Yarmouk have fled to Jordan. They are afraid of the Syrian army having stepped up activities on all fronts and of Russian airstrikes,” the RIA source said.

    The mainstream media in the United States is not talking much about this, are they? But the U.S. media is reporting on this latest airdrop of ammunition to rebel groups in Syria. For example, the following comes from CNN

    U.S. military cargo planes gave 50 tons of ammunition to rebel groups overnight in northern Syria, using an air drop of 112 pallets as the first step in the Obama Administration’s urgent effort to find new ways to support those groups.

    Details of the air mission over Syria were confirmed by a U.S. official not authorized to speak publicly because the details have not yet been formally announced.

    C-17s, accompanied by fighter escort aircraft, dropped small arms ammunition and other items like hand grenades in Hasakah province in northern Syria to a coalition of rebels groups vetted by the US, known as the Syrian Arab Coalition.
    If you were the Russians, how would you feel about this? I know how I would feel. And just as Joe Biden has previously admitted, the “moderate middle” in Syria simply does not exist. The following is an extended excerpt from a piece that was originally written by investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed


    The first Russian airstrikes hit the rebel-held town of Talbisah north of Homs City, home to al-Qaeda’s official Syrian arm, Jabhat al-Nusra, and the pro-al-Qaeda Ahrar al-Sham, among other local rebel groups. Both al-Nusra and the Islamic State have claimed responsibility for vehicle-borne IEDs (VBIEDs) in Homs City, which is 12 kilometers south of Talbisah.

    The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) reports that as part of “US and Turkish efforts to establish an ISIS ‘free zone’ in the northern Aleppo countryside,” al-Nusra “withdrew from the border and reportedly reinforced positions in this rebel-held pocket north of Homs city”.

    In other words, the US and Turkey are actively sponsoring “moderate” Syrian rebels in the form of al-Qaeda, which Washington DC-based risk analysis firm Valen Globals forecasts will be “a bigger threat to global security” than IS in coming years.

    Last October, Vice President Joe Biden conceded that there is “no moderate middle” among the Syrian opposition. Turkey and the Gulf powers armed and funded “anyone who would fight against Assad,” including “al-Nusra,” “al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI),” and the “extremist elements of jihadis who were coming from other parts of the world”.

    In other words, the CIA-backed rebels targeted by Russia are not moderates. They represent the same melting pot of al-Qaeda affiliated networks that spawned the Islamic State in the first place.

    It has been well documented that many of these so-called “moderate rebel groups” in Syria have fought alongside ISIS and have sold weapons to them. So this false dichotomy that Barack Obama keeps trying to sell us on is just a giant fraud. The following comes from a recent ******** report


    In September, 2014 a commander with the FSA admitted cooperating with ISIS and the al-Nusra Front.

    “We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in … Qalamoun,” Bassel Idriss said. “Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in Qalamoun and we as FSA would collaborate on any mission they launch as long as it coincides with our values.”

    In July of 2014 a report in Stars and Stripes documented how the 1,000 strong Dawud Brigade, which had previously fought alongside the FSA against al-Assad, had defected in its entirety to join ISIS.

    The same month factions within the FSA — including Ahl Al Athar and Ibin al-Qa’im — pledged services to the Islamic State.

    Members of the Islamic State claim to cooperate with the FSA and buy weapons provided by the U.S.

    “We are buying weapons from the FSA. We bought 200 anti-aircraft missiles and Koncourse anti tank weapons,” ISIS member Abu Atheer told al-Jazeera. “We have good relations with our brothers in the FSA. For us, the infidels are those who cooperate with the West to fight Islam.”
    U.S. anti-tank weapons are playing a critical role in the Syrian conflict. As reported by the Washington Post, U.S.-made anti-tank missiles are being used by the rebels to destroy lots of Russian-made tanks that are being used by the Syrian army…


    So successful have they been in driving rebel gains in northwestern Syria that rebels call the missile the “Assad Tamer,” a play on the word Assad, which means lion. And in recent days they have been used with great success to slow the Russian-backed offensive aimed at recapturing ground from the rebels.

    Since Wednesday, when Syrian troops launched their first offensive backed by the might of Russia’s military, dozens of videos have been posted on YouTube showing rebels firing the U.S.-made missiles at Russian-made tanks and armored vehicles belonging to the Syrian army. Appearing as twirling balls of light, they zigzag across the Syrian countryside until they find and blast their target in a ball of flame.
    Like I said earlier, this is looking more and more like a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Could that be what Obama actually wants? Obama is poking China in the eyes lately too. CNN is reporting that U.S. warships may soon be sailing into territorial waters around the Spratly Islands. These are islands that the Chinese government claims ownership over, but the U.S. government disputes that claim, and Obama seems determined to flex his muscles in the area…


    The United States (US) may soon deploy war ships near China’s artificial islands in the South China Sea.

    It wants to send a message that it does not recognize China’s territorial claims over the area.

    This is according to a Financial Times report quoting a senior U.S. official who said its ships will sail within 12-nautical-mile zones that China claims as its territory around the Spratly Islands within the next two weeks.
    If Obama sends warships into that area, there is a very real chance that they could get shot at. According to Newsweek, the Chinese are saying that they will not permit U.S. ships to violate those territorial waters under any circumstances…


    We will never allow any country to violate China’s territorial waters and airspace in the Spratly Islands, in the name of protecting freedom of navigation and overflight,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in response to a question about possible U.S. patrols. “We urge the related parties not to take any provocative actions, and genuinely take a responsible stance on regional peace and stability.”

    Such exchanges appear to be moving China and the U.S. toward a much feared, yet long expected, military confrontation. Just as unsettling, both sides seem confident they can prevail.
    Over the past couple of years our relations with China have really gone downhill very rapidly, and if the trading relationship between the two largest economies on the planet breaks down, that would have massive implications for the entire global economy. In addition to everything above, the civil war in Ukraine continues to rage on.

    The United States funded, equipped, trained and organized the forces that violently overthrew the democratically-elected government in Ukraine, and then once those thugs (which actually included some neo-Nazis) took power, the Obama administration immediately recognized them as the legitimate government of Ukraine.

    The Russians were absolutely infuriated by this, and they have been providing soldiers, equipment and supplies to the rebel groups that are fighting back against this new government. Of course the Russians deny that they are doing this, but it is exceedingly obvious that they are.

    The rebel groups that the Russians have been backing have been doing very well and have been steadily taking ground, and this is not how the power brokers in D.C. envisioned things playing out in Ukraine. So in a desperate attempt to shift the momentum of the conflict, a bill is going through Congress that would provide “lethal military aid” to the government in Kiev. Initially the bill would have provided 200 million dollars in lethal aid, but now it has been upped to 300 million dollars. There are some that believe that the final figure will be significantly higher. Once this bill gets passed, it will be an extremely important event.

    For the Russians, it will mean crossing a red line that never should have been crossed.

    You see, the truth is that Ukraine is Russia’s most important neighbor. Just imagine how we would feel if the Russians helped overthrow Canada’s government and then start feeding weapons to the new pro-Russian government that they helped install. That is exactly how the Russians view our meddling in Ukraine.

    Earlier this year, I wrote an article in which I discussed an opinion poll that showed that 81 percent of all Russians now view the United States negatively, and only 13 percent of Russians have a positive view of this nation. Not even during the height of the Cold War were the numbers that bad. The stage is being set for World War III, but most Americans are completely and totally oblivious to all of this because they are so wrapped up in their own little worlds.

    Most Americans still seem to assume that the Russians and the Chinese are our “friends” and that any type of conflict between major global powers is impossible. Well, the truth is that conflict has already begun in Ukraine and Syria, and tensions are rising with each passing day. It won’t happen next week or next month, but we are on the road to World War III. So what will the end result be?

    Please feel free to share your thoughts by posting a comment below… The original source of this article is The Economic Collapse Blog

    Copyright © Michael Snyder, The Economic Collapse Blog, 2015


    Russia: America Has Started World War 3 In Syria

    Posted on September 19, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in News, World // 0 Comments


    The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has accused the U.S. of igniting World War 3 by deliberately killing Syrian troops and aiding ISIS terrorists.

    Top Russian military officials have warned that the U.S. deliberately killed 62 servicemen in order to provoke a war against Russia.

    Inquisitr.com reports:

    Sputnik News reported September 18 that top Russian military officials are questioning the veracity of their American counterparts who claim that the airstrike on the Syrian military base was a mistake. But one Russian official, First Deputy Chairman of the Defense and Security Committee and Federation Council member Franz Klintsevich, told Russian news agency RIA Novosti that he believes the coordinated attack by two F-16 fighter jets and two A10 ground attack aircraft — which originated out of Iraq — was deliberate.

    “The US conducted airstrikes on government forces in Syria deliberately and thoughtfully. Any aerial operation is coordinated with commanders on the ground. In this case [the US] used information received from their intelligence units who infiltrated Daesh [derogatory term for ISIS, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria].”

    Others have been more restrained in their allegations toward the United States. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov noted that if the U.S. airstrike was accidental, the incident was “a direct consequence of the US’ unwillingness to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia.”

    Klintsevich pointed out that the airstrike was in line with policymaking in Washington, which takes the position that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, should be deposed and replaced by the U.S.-backed rebels. He said that the U.S. was acting to “maintain their economic interests” in the area.

    Accusations and allegations aside, all agreed that the cease-fire being negotiated between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Geneva was in jeopardy.

    Russia’s United Nations envoy, Vitaly Churkin, stated that he found the timing of the U.S. airstrike “suspicious,” given the ongoing cease-fire negotiations. He said that “some aspects of the situation suggest that it could have well been a provocation.” But, he was quick to add, the attack did not necessarily mean that the ceasefire deal was over.

    It is unclear whether or not the U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base at Deir ez-Zor had anything to do with the several bombings in late July of a U.S. base in Syria. According to the Wall Street Journal (via Fox News), U.S. defense and intelligence officials reported that Russian aircraft had bombed a base maintained by U.S. and British forces, and had done so again 90 minutes after being warned that it was not to be targeted. The officials said they believed that Russia was attempting to pressure the U.S. into coordinating its air war with the Russian military.

    Heightened tensions have only increased fears of an escalation of events in the region to the point of World War 3. Of course, this has been an ongoing concern since Russia entered the multinational fray (September 30, 2015, according to BBC News), ostensibly to join in the fight against ISIS but seen by the world as to act as an ally and prop for the then tottering regime of Bashar al-Assad. Regardless, Russia’s entrance also increased the chances of accidental incidents that could quickly spiral into military confrontations — incidents like Russia bombing a known American base and the U.S. bombing a known Syrian Army base. (Russian officials have also voiced concern over the possibility, after Saturday’s attack, that the U.S. could mistakenly bomb a Russian airbase.)

    Similar scenarios of a potential World War 3 trigger have been presented before. In a September 2015 article, the Telegraph offered that the advent of World War 3 could very well be a confrontation or accident in Syria’s crowded skies.

    “Indeed, the skies over Syria are starting to get dangerously crowded, with Russian jets flying near US planes on bombing runs, and sparring with NATO air defenses in neighboring Turkey.”

    For the record, Turkey is also now involved in the war inside Syria. As reported by Al Jazeera, tensions with Russia escalated in November when a Turkish fighter shot down a Russian bomber that was claimed to have entered Turkish airspace and repeatedly warned to depart the area.

    The U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base is just the latest incident of potential diplomatic and political calamity in an already volatile region of the world. According to the New York Times, American military officials admitted that U.S. pilots had targeted a Syrian Army base, but the pilots had thought they were attacking ISIS facilities in the area. A senior Obama administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Times that the United States had stated its regrets to Syria’s government through the Russians for the “unintentional loss of life of Syrian forces” in the ongoing war against ISIS.

    Will historians one day look back on the events of the last few months as the precursors to World War 3? Or will they go back further to when Russia entered the conflict? Of course, historians could go even further back to the creation of the caliphate of the Islamic State or even the creation of ISIS. Regardless, for now, World War 3 history is only the province of speculation, but the fears of a major multinational conflict, given the historical ease with which other world wars have begun, are founded in realistic potentialities.



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    “F**k the EU!”: US diplomat’s Ukraine phonecall leaked via Youtube

    Washington is accusing Russia of capturing the conversation and uploading it to the site.

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    US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland
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    THE US GOVERNMENT is trying to defuse a potential row with its European allies after the leak of an embarrassing phone call in which a top US diplomat cursed the EU response to the Ukraine crisis.

    The leak of the bugged conversation came as Ukraine’s embattled president, Viktor Yanukovych, flew to Sochi, Russia late last night for crisis talks with Russian counterpart and ally Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the opening ceremony for the Winter Olympics.

    Washington and Brussels have engaged in a diplomatic standoff with Kiev and Moscow over mass pro-EU protests that erupted in Ukraine when Yanukovych in November rejected a pact with the EU under Russian pressure.

    But the leaked phone call appears to reveal US frustration with the EU over handling Ukraine, which is torn between leaning to the European Union and its past master Russia.

    Washington’s new top diplomat for Europe, Victoria Nuland, has apologised to EU counterparts after she was caught cursing the European response to the crisis in Kiev.



    (Youtube: datboi5000)

    “F**k the EU,” Nuland allegedly says, in what appeared to be a recent phone call with US ambassador to Kiev, Geoff Pyatt, which was somehow intercepted and uploaded onto YouTube. The original video was accompanied by Russian captions.

    US officials, while not denying such a conversation took place, refused to go into details, and pointed the finger at Russia for allegedly bugging the diplomats’ phones.

    “Let me convey that she has been in contact with her EU counterparts, and of course has apologised,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

    While Psaki said she had no independent details of how the conversation was captured and uploaded onto the social networking site, she added: “Certainly we think this is a new low in Russian tradecraft.”

    Klitschko offer

    Nuland, who took over late last year as assistant secretary for European affairs, and Pyatt appear to discuss Yanukovych’s offer last month to make opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk the new prime minister and Vitaly Klitschko deputy prime minister. Both men turned the offer down.

    Nuland, who in December went down to Independence Square in Kiev in a show of support for the demonstrators, adds she has also been told that the UN chief Ban Ki-moon is about to appoint a former Dutch ambassador to Kiev, Robert Serry, as his representative to Ukraine.

    “That would be great I think to help glue this thing and have the UN glue it and you know, f**k the EU,” she says.


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    U.S. Diplomat’s F-Bomb Overshadows Russia’s Warning on Ukraine

    February 7, 2014 - 4:39 AM
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    Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

    (CNSNews.com) – A media furor over a leaked phone conversation between senior U.S. diplomats discussing the Ukraine crisis is overshadowing a Kremlin adviser’s accusations of U.S. interference in Ukraine – and his warning that Russia could intervene to maintain its security.

    Administration officials are implying that the Russian authorities intercepted and posted on YouTube of an audio recording of a purported phone conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the U.S. Ambassador in Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt. The State Department is not disputing its authenticity.

    The kerfuffle over the leaked conversation – in which Nuland says, “f*** the E.U.” -- has diverted attention from a newspaper interview published Thursday in which Sergei Glazyev, an adviser to President Vladimir Putin, accused the U.S. of “unilaterally and crudely interfering in Ukraine’s internal affairs.”

    Glazyev told the Kommersant daily’s Ukraine edition that the U.S. was funding and arming the Ukrainian “opposition and rebels” trying to oust embattled President Viktor Yanukovich.

    Asked whether Russia would actively intervene if the crisis worsened, Glazyev told the Kommersant daily’s Ukraine edition that America’s interference in Ukraine’s internal affairs was a clear breach of a 1994 document Ukraine’s security after Kiev surrendered its nuclear arsenal inherited from the Soviet Union, which had dissolved three years earlier.

    Under that 1994 memorandum, he continued, “Russia and the U.S. are guarantors of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and, frankly, they are obliged to intervene when conflict situations of this kind arise.”

    Glazyev’s comments were quickly eclipsed by the leaked Nuland-Pyatt recording, with most attention not surprisingly focused on Nuland’s use of an obscenity in relation to the European Union’s stance on Ukraine.

    But the conversation more broadly will also feed Russian allegations of U.S. meddling in the crisis, which erupted when Yanukovich reversed course last November on closer ties with the E.U. in favor of stronger links to Russia.

    In a bid to end the turmoil, Yanukovich late last month offered two opposition leaders, Arseniy Yatsenyuk and Vitali Klitschko, the posts of prime minister and deputy prime minister respectively. Both declined.

    In the leaked conversation, Nuland and Pyatt are heard to favor a role for Yatsenyuk, but to agree that Klitschko should not to be brought into the government.
    “I don’t think it’s necessary [for Klitschko to have a role in government],” Nuland is heard to say. “I don’t think it’s a good idea.”

    Pyatt agrees: “In terms of him [Klitschko] not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff.”

    Nuland goes on to mention that U.N. Secretary-General Ben Ki-moon is about to appoint an envoy to Ukraine.

    “That would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the U.N. glue it – and you know, f*** the E.U.” she says.

    “Uh, exactly,” replies Pyatt. “And I think we’ve got to do something to make it stick together, because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it.”

    ‘Small frustrations’

    State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki at a daily press briefing did not dispute that the leaked recording was authentic, saying that Nuland has apologized to her E.U. counterparts for the “reported comments.”

    “Certainly we think this is a new low in Russian tradecraft in terms of publicizing and posting this [online],” she said. (White House press secretary Jay Carney separately also raised questions about “Russia’s role”.)

    A reporter suggested that the recording – with two senior officials apparently discussing brokering a new government for Ukraine, determining its makeup and getting the U.N. to seal the deal – would be seen as demonstrating U.S. interference in a sovereign state’s affairs.

    “This is more than the U.S. making suggestions,” the reporter said. “This is the U.S. midwifing the process.”

    “Of course these things are discussed,” Psaki replied. “It doesn’t change the fact that it’s up to the people on the ground, it is up to the people of Ukraine, to determine what the path forward is.”

    Asked about Nuland’s evident frustration with the E.U., Psaki said, “I wouldn’t overanalyze one – a couple of words that were used on a phone call as to having larger meaning about some sort of ongoing issue.”

    “There are, of course, moments in every diplomatic relationship where you have small frustrations, where you agree, you disagree, you work through the issues, you talk about what the best step to take is, and that certainly has been the case here, which should be no surprise.”

    The U.S. and E.U. have not always seen eye-to-eye over Ukraine, with the E.U. uneasy about U.S. proposals considering imposing sanctions on Kiev.

    Psaki went on to suggest that Nuland may have learned to swear while working on a Russian fishing boat as a young woman.

    “You all know Toria pretty well. You may know the story of how she lived on a Russian boat for about eight months when she was 23, and she learned how to perfect perhaps certain words in a couple of languages.”

    When Secretary of State John Kerry conducted her assistant secretary swearing-in ceremony last September, he said, “As some of you may know, she worked on a Soviet fishing trawler in the Pacific, an incredible undertaking.”


    “She has also served in some of the most challenging and demanding foreign policy positions in the U.S. government,” he added, “some of which I am sure made her feel like she wished she would be back on that fishing trawler at times.”

    Nuland told the New York Times in 2012 that she “learned to drink aboard a Soviet fishing trawler in my early 20s, so my favorite summer beverage is still an ice-cold Stoli with an ocean view.”



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    I was out of pocket most of Sunday with on call work and taking advantage of the warm spell trying to get outdoor work done and, in the mean time, it looks like Russia and Ukraine have started trading fire in the Kerch Strait part of the Black Sea/Sea of Azov.

    Getting caught up, I had seen word that 3 Ukrainian ships had been boarded and seized by Russia.

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