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  • Russia Deploying Tactical Nuclear Arms in Crimea


    Russia Deploying Tactical Nuclear Arms in Crimea

    Obama backing indirect talks with Moscow aimed at cutting U.S. non-strategic nukes in Europe

    October 10, 2014
    By Bill Gertz

    Russia is moving tactical nuclear weapons systems into recently-annexed Crimea while the Obama administration is backing informal talks aimed at cutting U.S. tactical nuclear deployments in Europe.

    Three senior House Republican leaders wrote to President Obama two weeks ago warning that Moscow will deploy nuclear missiles and bombers armed with long-range air launched cruise missiles into occupied Ukrainian territory.

    “Locating nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its permission is a devious and cynical action,” states the letter signed by House Armed Services Committee Chairman Howard P. “Buck” McKeon (R., Calif.) and two subcommittee chairmen.

    “It further positions Russian nuclear weapons closer to the heart of NATO, and it allows Russia to gain a military benefit from its seizure of Crimea, allowing Russia to profit from its action.”

    Russian President Vladimir Putin in recent months “has escalated his use of nuclear threats to a level not seen since the Cold War,” they wrote.

    In a related development, the Obama administration is funding non-official arms control talks with Russia through a Washington think-tank that are aimed at curbing U.S. tactical nuclear arms in Europe.

    The first round of talks was held in Vienna Monday and Tuesday.

    Critics say Obama administration arms control officials at the State Department and Pentagon are using the informal nuclear talks as groundwork for future tactical nuclear arms cuts.

    Such cuts are likely to be opposed by NATO allies, especially in Eastern Europe, worried by growing Russian military threats to the continent.

    Regarding the nuclear deployments to Crimea, Senate Armed Services Committee ranking member James Inhofe (R., Okla.) first disclosed last month that Putin had announced in August his approval of deploying nuclear-capable Iskander-M short-range missiles along with Tu-22 nuclear-capable bombers in Crimea, located on the Black Sea.

    “The stationing of new nuclear forces on the Crimean peninsula, Ukrainian territory Russia annexed in March, is both a new and menacing threat to the security of Europe and also a clear message from Putin that he intends to continue to violate the territorial integrity of his neighbors,” Inhofe stated in a Sept. 8 op-ed in Foreign Policy.

    In their Sept. 23 letter to the president, McKeon, Rep. Mike Rogers (R., Ala.), chairman of the subcommittee on strategic forces, and Rep. Michael Turner (R., Ohio), chairman of the subcommittee on tactical air and land forces, noted Russia’s violation of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces Treaty by building a banned cruise missile. The missile has been identified by U.S. officials as the R-500.

    The lawmakers said the Russian nuclear deployment in Crimea represents the “clear, and perhaps irrevocable tearing” of the 1997 agreement between NATO and Russia that allowed Russia to maintain a military presence within the alliance.

    The Russian nuclear deployment plans and treaty violation should have been discussed during the recent NATO summit in Wales but were not, they said.

    As a result, the congressmen urged the president to brief Congress on the threatening Russian nuclear deployments in Crimea. They also called on the president to suspend the NATO-Russia accord and demand the removal of all Russian military personnel from NATO facilities.

    Additionally, they asked that the United States and its allies halt all arms control surveillance flights by Russia carried out under the Open Skies Treaty.

    Significantly, the three House leaders called on the administration to begin research and development on deployment sites for new U.S. intermediate-range ground-launched cruise and ballistic missiles, if Russian refuses to return to compliance with the INF accord.

    Putin “must be made to understand that his actions will accomplish nothing more than the alienation [of] Russia from the West, its economy and its security architecture,” the lawmakers said.

    “Until we have a strategy that convinces Mr. Putin he cannot achieve his dream of a ‘New Russia’ through illegal annexations, covert invasions, and nuclear saber-rattling, statements and sanctions along cannot be expected to have an effect on his actions,” the letter warns.

    “Too much is at stake to continue to allow Russia’s dictator to continue to proceed on his current path toward regional destabilization without serous opposition.”

    The action “further undermines Russian credibility in terms of the Budapest Memorandum that the Russian Federation signed in 1994,” the congressmen said.

    The memorandum promised Ukraine would have security assurances against threats or use of force in exchange for Kiev giving up its Soviet-era nuclear weapons – at the time the third largest arsenal in the world.

    On the Track 2 talks between Russian experts and a group hosted by the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), the program leader was identified as anti-nuclear arms advocate Sharon Squassoni.

    Squassoni took part in a study three years ago sponsored by the leftist, anti-nuclear weapons group Ploughshares Fund that called for removing all U.S. tactical nuclear arms from Europe.

    Thomas Moore, a former senior professional staff member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who quit CSIS over concerns about Squassoni’s anti-nuclear slant, said he felt the Track 2 program, which was to cost $215,000 in federal funding, was unwise after Russia’s military takeover of Crimea which began last February.

    Moore said in an interview that the administration could be using the CSIS Track 2 talks as a way of conducting direct negotiations to further reduce U.S. nuclear arms in Europe.

    “Now is the wrong time to entertain any such ideas with any Russians, whether they are official or unofficial Russians, because they all support Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine and violation of the INF treaty,” Moore said, noting that verifying any tactical nuclear arms reductions is nearly impossible.

    “My goal was to verify and keep our nukes in Europe,” he said, noting that Squassoni knows little about nuclear arms and has been “a partisan for Obama and his anti-nuclear agenda in Europe.”

    CSIS spokesman Andrew Schwartz confirmed that the Track 2 talks involving U.S., Russian and European experts are aimed at “limiting non-strategic nuclear weapons.” He declined to identify the U.S. or foreign members of the project and said a report on the program would be published in summer or fall of next year. He said the notion that the project has not been adjusted to account for the Crimea crisis is wrong.

    Squassoni confirmed her participation in the Ploughshares study but said in an email that the recommendations of that project were not discussed during the first Track 2 meeting this week.

    “I can assure you that my personal views do not interfere with my ability to facilitate balanced, analytically sound dialogues,” she said.

    The CSIS-Russia Track 2 nuclear talks also are being supported by Rose Gottemoeller, undersecretary of state for arms control and international security; and Andrew Weber, who recently resigned as assistant secretary of defense for nuclear, chemical and biological defenses amid allegations of insubordination and improper personnel activities.

    A Pentagon spokeswoman declined to provide details surrounding Weber’s resignation but said he would be taking a lesser position at the State Department.

    A U.S. official close to the Pentagon said Weber ran afoul of his superiors as a result of his anti-nuclear arms positions, and practices related to hiring and the use of personnel within his office.

    Alexandra Bell, a spokeswoman for Gottemoeller said: “The administration is supportive of the domestic and international non-governmental community’s right to conduct research, scholarship, advocacy and Track 2 dialogues as they see fit.”

    Both the Pentagon and State Department spokeswomen would not address the question of whether holding informal nuclear talks on cutting nuclear weapons in Europe with the Russians will undermine NATO security in the aftermath of the Crimean crisis.

    Former Pentagon official Mark Schneider, a strategic nuclear arms specialist, said the Track 2 and any formal arms talks on tactical nuclear arms would fail.

    “They can have as many tracks as they want but the Russians will not agree to limits on tactical nuclear weapons,” Schneider said. “Their advantage is too great.”

    The United States is believed to have around 200 nuclear weapons in Europe. Russia’s tactical nuclear arsenal is at least 2,000.

    “NATO politics will prevent any cuts in U.S. tactical nuclear weapons in Europe,” he said. “This is obviously about the worst possible time to talk about something like this.”

    Schneider said nuclear policymakers should focus on deterrence now instead of disarmament.

    A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman told state-run Interfax March 26 that a “missile-carrying regiment” of Tu-22 Backfire nuclear bombers will be deployed to the Crimean airbase at Gvardeyskoye within two years.

    IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly described the nuclear-capable Tu-22s to be based in Crimea as “the backbone of Soviet naval strike units during the Cold War.”

    Rogers, the strategic forces subcommittee chairman, said Sept. 18 that the Russians have discussed “plans to station tactical nuclear weapons in Crimea.”
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Russian Invasion Of Ukraine (Formerly: Democratic Malaise Draws Ukraine Eastwards) started by Ryan Ruck View original post
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    1. American Patriot's Avatar
      American Patriot -
      I am so confused on who is fighting whom now.
    1. vector7's Avatar
      vector7 -
      Malinka ‏@Malinka1102 5h
      .@BungeeWedgie Ukraine US army/Europe commander on the frontline
      - "practical cooperation"

      http://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/4...l_force_photos





      Malinka ‏@Malinka1102 5h
      .@GosseVuijk You mean Minsk Agreement was written only for Donbass side?
      @BungeeWedgie @thierrybaudet




      Minsk Protocol
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol


      Map of the buffer zone established by the Minsk Protocol follow-up memorandum
    1. vector7's Avatar
      vector7 -
      NATO ‏@NATO Aug 31
      US Marines perform their first ever amphibious landing in Ukraine
      alongside their Ukrainian allies in the Black Sea

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-qvucWIATw








      U.S. Marines, sailors flex their amphibious muscles
      in Russia's backyard


      By: Lance M. Bacon,
      August 13, 2016
      https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/sto...yard/88333538/

      U.S. Marines and sailors recently teamed with other NATO allies during
      a major show of force in Ukraine amid growing concerns about a Russian
      military plus-up on the Crimean border.

      Troops from 16 nations completed Exercise Sea Breeze, which was held
      just a couple of hundred miles from the Crimean Peninsula, on July 30.
      U.S. military officials tout the annual air, land and maritime exercise
      as a way to enhance interoperability and strengthen regional security
      in a volatile region marked by the 2014 Russian incursion of Crimea
      and continuing civil war in Ukraine, which borders Russia.

      “This year’s Sea Breeze exercise is definitely a signal to Russia,” said
      Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary
      Assessments who previously served as special assistant to the chief
      of naval operations and director of his Commander’s Action Group.

      “It is in part to demonstrate to Russia that U.S. and NATO forces will
      still operate adjacent to Russian territory and forces despite Russia's
      protests.


      Also, the situation in eastern Ukraine is reaching a new boiling point
      and may result in a more intense conflict erupting again this fall.

      If followed up with clear statements from the U.S. about how the U.S.
      will respond to new Russian aggression, exercises like this are a way
      to indicate to Russia American resolve.”

      U.S. Marines with 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit and Ukrainian soldiers
      travel in an assault amphibious vehicle during Exercise Sea Breeze 2016.

      In addition to signaling resolve, the exercise served as
      a way to practice the kind of amphibious operations
      that could be used to suppress or isolate Russian naval
      forces in Crimea and Sevastopol, he said.


      "Showing the ability to execute this kind of operation,
      even if the U.S. doesn't want to do it, will help remind
      Russia that their forces outside Russia may be vulnerable
      to attack," Clark said.


      This year’s exercise included 26 ships, 20 aircraft, 140 vehicles,
      and 4,000 international troops from the U.S., Ukraine, Bulgaria,
      the United Kingdom, Greece, Georgia, Italy, Spain, Lithuania,
      Moldova, Norway, Poland, Romania, Turkey, Sweden and Finland.

      The U.S. Navy sent two ships to participate for the first time:
      the amphibious dock landing ship Whidbey Island and guided-missile
      destroyer Ross. About 205 members of Battalion Landing Team,
      1st Battalion, 6th Marines — deployed with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary
      Unit — also participated.

      During the exercise, Marines and sailors teamed with more than a dozen
      Ukrainian troops for a mock amphibious landing. Fifteen amphibious
      assault vehicles covered nearly 4 nautical miles to Odessa, then moved
      about 13 miles by land to establish a blocking position at two separate
      bridges in Bazar’yanka, said 2nd Lt. Marco Valenzuela, a Marine spokesman.

      It was the first time the MEU used AAVs to transport the Expeditionary
      Fire Support System, a 120mm mortar used to support infantry units with
      indirect fire support. Since Ukraine has nothing like the AAV, basic matters
      such as opening the hatch and getting secure in the seat proved
      challenging, said Cpl. Trenton Murry, an AAV crew chief with Charlie
      Company who carried three Ukrainians in the back of his hog.

      “The biggest challenge was the language barrier,” he said. “It was difficult
      at first trying to convey what you wanted accomplished, but we did find
      out that their basic hand and arm signals for infantry movements are
      quite similar to ours.”

      Despite the communication challenges, the exercise allowed the grunts
      to step outside of their comfort zone and flex their capabilities, said
      Maj. Jeffrey Erb, Charlie Company's commander.

      “We tried a few new things,” he said. “We took the opportunity to
      integrate our heavy mortar systems into the AAVs and it worked out
      really well. It definitely opens up that option for us in the future.”

      In addition to the amphibious landing, members of Fleet Anti-Terrorism
      Security Team Company Europe teamed with Seabees from Naval Mobile
      Construction Battalion 133 and Ukrainian marines with their 36th
      Engineering Regiment to learn how to use triple strand concertina wire
      in defensive positions. Ukrainian troops also conducted their first
      helocast, jumping 20 feet from a helicopter into the open ocean.

      “The threats and challenges in which our military forces have to deal with
      these days are much wider than they used to be,” Ivanna Klympush-
      Tsintsadze, vice prime minister of Ukraine for European and Euro-Atlantic
      Integration, said at the ceremony that opened the exercise.

      “The capability of the military forces is not only about numbers of
      personnel or the quality or quantity of armaments, but it about military
      professionalism.”
      Follow @military_scoop
      Lance M. Bacon is senior reporter for Marine Corps Times. He covers Marine Corps
      Combat Development Command, Marine Corps Forces Command,
      personnel / career issues, Marine Corps Logistics Command, II MEF,
      and Marine Forces North. He can be reached
      at lbacon@marinecorpstimes.com.
    1. Ryan Ruck's Avatar
      Ryan Ruck -

      US To Send Anti-Tank Missiles To Ukraine

      December 23, 2017

      President Donald Trump is expected to announce his approval of a plan to sell anti-tank missiles to the Ukrainian government, a move that would mark a significant escalation in lethal U.S. military support for Ukrainian forces battling Russian-aligned forces in the border region, four State Department sources tell ABC News.

      If the president formally signs off, the plan will be presented to Congress for a 30-day review period where it would need to be approved before the State Department can implement it.

      The sale of anti-tank missiles, which could possibly include the U.S.-made Javelin system, provoked a strong reaction from Russia on Saturday, saying it "crossed the line," and could threaten to derail Trump’s calls for better relations with Moscow.

      The total defense package of $47 million includes the sale of 210 anti-tank missiles and 35 launchers. Additional supplies will need to be purchased, according to a senior State Department official.

      “We have nothing to announce at this time,” National Security Council spokesperson Marc Raimondi told ABC News.

      In a statement, State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert told ABC News: "The United States has decided to provide Ukraine enhanced defensive capabilities as part of our effort to help Ukraine build its long-term defense capacity, to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to deter further aggression. U.S. assistance is entirely defensive in nature, and as we have always said, Ukraine is a sovereign country and has a right to defend itself. The United States remains committed to the Minsk agreements as the way forward in eastern Ukraine. We have no further comment, at this time."

      Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's deputy foreign minister, responded harshly to the news of the pending deal in a statement on Saturday.

      "The United States in a certain sense crossed the line, announcing the intention to transfer weapons of direct damaging action to Ukraine," the statement said, translated from Russian. "American weapons can lead to new victims in our neighboring country, to which we cannot remain indifferent."

      Earlier this week, the Kremlin condemned Trump’s approval to allow the commercial sale of small arms and light weapons to Ukraine.

      Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said that sale “will once again motivate the hotheads” in the Ukrainian government and "unleash bloodshed again." The head of the Russian parliament’s defense committee, Vladimir Shamanov, also condemned it as a “sophisticated and irresponsible step.”

      A State Department source stressed that the move to supply even more powerful anti-tank missile is purely for defensive purposes.

      ABC News first reported that the inter-agency memo has been sitting on the president’s desk for weeks.

      If Trump announces his approval, the memo will likely make its way to Capitol Hill. Congress has 30 days to approve the measure. There is broad support by Senate Republicans.

      After the announcement of the sale of smaller lethal weapons, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said that Trump should take the next step and approve the sale of anti-tank missiles.

      “I urge the President to authorize additional sales of defensive lethal weapons, including anti-tank munitions, and to fully utilize security assistance funds provided by the Congress to enable Ukraine to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity,” McCain said in a statement.

      As violence in the eastern region accelerates between the Ukrainians and separatists supported by Russia, the Ukrainian government has made it clear that they are in dire need of offensive hardware.

      The death toll stands at over 10,000 people since fighting began in 2014, according to a December report by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

      The war has been at a standstill along the eastern front since Russia seized Crimea in 2014.

      “What we are awaiting and have called for is the provision of lethal defense weapons that are more advanced — a larger package that is under consideration right now, including anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles,” a Ukrainian official told ABC News earlier this week. “We are expecting this decision and would welcome it.”

      President Barack Obama considered selling and financing anti-tank missiles to Ukraine in theory but never approved the measure, despite being pushed by his National Security Council team, according to a former NSC official.

      The U.S. military’s European Command is moving ahead with the plan for the weapons to be delivered, according to a senior State Department source.

      Trump promised a reset with Russia, but there has been concern that arming the Ukrainians might hamper that move. Nonetheless, a source close to the President said he has been supportive of the decision despite concerns from allies about how it will provoke Russia.

      The president’s likely approval of the arms deal is a major shift from the Republican party platform on sending lethal weapons to Ukraine, which was amended when Trump was the party's nominee for president, from supporting "lethal defensive arms" to Ukraine to the more vague "appropriate assistance” — language that ran counter to traditional Republican foreign policy.
    1. vector7's Avatar
      vector7 -
      What if America started to fall and began having communist riots and civil unrest everywhere. Then Russia suddenly moved into Alaska and turned south into the lower 48 with no strong allies willing to stick their necks out to help. Apparently, if you wanted to defend your country at any cost the socialist MSM (useful idiots) would call you a radical nationalist movement.

      The children trained to kill Russians: Boys and girls as young as EIGHT are taught to fire AK-47s at Ukrainian nationalist camp


      • Temper of Will is a radical nationalist youth camp that teaches children to defend their country from Russians
      • Some of the training drills include campers being woken in the middle of the night with a blast from grenade
      • Organised by the nationalist Svoboda party, children are taught to not think of their targets as human beings


      By Bhvishya Patel For Mailonline and Associated Press
      Published: 03:08 EST, 12 November 2018 | Updated: 20:36 EST, 12 November 2018
      183 shares
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      A radical nationalist youth camp in Ukraine is training children to defend their country from Russian invasion.


      The summer camp in Ternopil, whose youngest combats are as young as eight, has been accused of violence and racism but have played a central volunteer role in Ukraine's conflict with Russia.

      Hidden in a forest in the west of the country, boys and girls at the 'Temper of will' camp - organised by the nationalist Svoboda party - are taught to carefully aim their assault rifles as their instructor offers the advice: 'Don't think of your target as a human being'.



      Children at the 'Temper of will' summer camp, organised by the nationalist Svoboda party, are taught how to form tactical formations with AK-47 assault riffles in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



      At the nationalist camp children as young as eight are seen holding assault rifles. They are taught to kill Russians and their sympathisers



      Along with spreading nationalist ideology the camp trains children to defend their country from Russian invasion. Earlier this year, the Ministry of Youth and Sports earmarked 4 million hryvnias (about $150,000) to fund some of the youth camps

      The camp has two purposes: to train children to defend their country from Russians and their sympathizers - and to spread nationalist ideology.
      'We never aim guns at people,' instructor Yuri 'Chornota' Cherkashin tells them.

      'But we don't count separatists, little green men, occupiers from Moscow, as people. So we can and should aim at them.'

      The nationalists have been accused of violence and racism, but they have played a central, volunteer role in Ukraine's conflict with Russia - and they have maintained links with the government.

      Earlier this year, the Ministry of Youth and Sports earmarked 4 million hryvnias (about $150,000) to fund some of the youth camps among the dozens built by the nationalists. The purpose, according to the ministry, is 'national patriotic education.'



      Young participants and instructors at the camp stand in formation as they sing the national anthem in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



      A member of Sokil (Falcon), the youth wing of the nationalist Svoboda party, stands in a forest as he guides participants to the 'Temper of will' summer camp



      Yuri 'Chornota' Cherkashin, head of Sokil (Falcon), the youth wing of the nationalist Svoboda party, is pictured giving tactical instructions to young participants of the 'Temper of will' summer camp. He tells his students: 'We never aim guns at people. But we don't count separatists, little green men, occupiers from Moscow as people, so we can and should aim at them'

      Ministry spokeswoman Natalia Vernigora said the money is distributed by a panel which looks for 'signs of xenophobia and discrimination, it doesn't analyse activities of specific groups.'

      Cherkashin is a veteran of the fight against pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine; he was wounded in combat and later came to lead Sokil, or Falcon, the youth wing of the Svoboda party.

      It is important, he says, to inculcate the nation's youth with nationalist thought, so they can battle Vladimir Putin's Russia as well as 'challenges that could completely destroy' European civilization.



      Pictured: A young boy of the summer camp buttons up a camouflage shirt as he prepares for an exercise in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine. Children at the camp are taught to shoot to kill Russians and their sympathisers



      Head of Sokil Yuri 'Chornota' Cherkashin pictured sitting with his AK-47 rifle at the 'Temper of will' summer camp. He is a veteran of the fight against pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine



      Young boys sit inside a tent with their AK-47 riffles as they receive instructions during a tactical exercise in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine

      Among those challenges: LGBT rights, which lecturers denounce as a sign of Western decadence.

      'You need to be aware of all that,' said instructor Ruslan Andreiko.

      'All those gender things, all those perversions of modern Bolsheviks who have come to power in Europe and now try to make all those LGBT things like gay pride parades part of the education system.'

      While some youths dozed off during lectures, others paid attention, some were receptive.

      During a break in training, a teenager played a nationalist march on his guitar. It was decorated with a sticker showing white bombs hitting a mosque, under the motto, 'White Europe is Our Goal.'



      Children gather in-between exercises in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine. At the camp they are taught to challenge LGBT rights which is seen as a sign of Western decadence



      When he manages to grab a moment away a young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp uses his mobile phone to call his parents



      Pictured: Campers are seen holding a plank position before having dinner at the nationalist youth camp in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



      Instructor Georgiy Barylenko (left) holds a flashlight as he walks with a young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp during a night drill



      A young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp takes position with her unloaded AK-47 riffle during a night exercise in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine



      The purpose of the camp is twofold: to train children to defend their country and to spread nationalist ideology



      A young camper plays a guitar decorated with a sticker depicting bombs hitting a mosque, as others sing around a bonfire in a village near Ternopil, Ukraine

      Aside from the lectures - and songs around the campfire - life for the several dozen youths at the Svoboda camp was hard.

      Campers were awakened in the middle of the night with a blast from a stun grenade. Stumbling out of their tents, soldiers in training struggled to hold AK-47s that were, in some cases, almost as tall as they were.

      They were required to carry the heavy rifles all day, and one of the girls broke down in tears from exhaustion.

      At 18, Mykhailo was the oldest of the campers. The training, he said, was necessary.

      'Every moment things can go wrong in our country. And one has to be ready for it,' he said. 'That's why I came to this camp. To study how to protect myself and my loved ones'



      During one tactical exercise a young participant of the 'Temper of will' summer camp is seen grabbing his AK-47 rifle. Youths are the camp are taught to not see there target as a human being



      18-year-old Mykhailo, pictured adjusting his AK-47 rifle, was the oldest of the campers. He said: 'Every moment things can go wrong in our country. And one has to be ready for it'



      Instructor Georgiy Barylenko, holds a flare as he instructs young participants of the 'Temper of will' summer camp, organised by the nationalist Svoboda party, during a night drill in the village.

      Sadly this is another lingering gift from the Obama Administration...



      Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
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      RUSSIANS PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE IN DECEMBER 2008
      Obama starts World War III in Crimea




      December 26, 2008

      Under the new U.S. President Barack Obama in the Crimea will be implemented scenario of armed conflict. "It is the American scenario, and under Obama the probability is much higher than under McCain," - said at a roundtable in Kiev, Russian political scientist Andrei Okara, said "New Region".

      Expert explains: "It became clear when it was announced that what people will represent the Obama team. These are people whose professional registration - Wall Street. These people are engaged in a technology called" technologies of controlled chaos. "

      According to Okara, after Georgia area "controlled chaos" in the first place, was to be the Ukraine, namely - Crimea. "This is the point of a fire, including global conflicts that escalate into a world war, which, unfortunately, is one of the scenarios, the implementation of which at the moment from the real" - says the analyst.

      His colleague from the Ukrainian Institute of Russia Andrey Blinov agree that Russia is not interested in such a conflict. "When people talk about the war in the Crimea or in the hamlet St. Michael, I believe that this scenario is marginal. A question more active economic participation of Russian capital is very likely. But it depends on when the crisis is over. If in 2010, while Russia will be much weaker, "- said the expert.

      U.S. ambitions toward Crimea confirmed and signed recently the Ukrainian-American Charter on Strategic Partnership. The Charter provides for the unconditional recognition of the sovereignty of Ukraine and its integration into NATO, increased U.S. presence in the Crimea and other forms of cooperation. U.S. Ambassador William Taylor in Kiev, however, reassured: "The Charter does not oblige any one of the two parties to assist military means." And he added, if the boundaries are violated, "we will meet and discuss our next steps."

      In the second section of the paper devoted to defense and security, said the interest of both countries to "a strong, independent, democratic Ukraine", whose integration into European structures "is a mutual priority." This section reiterates that Ukraine will join NATO. In the meantime, "recognizing the global threat to stability in the world, to prevent them Ukraine and the United States will strengthen their cooperation in defense and security issues," - said the Ambassador. In addition, Taylor mentioned and concrete steps to improve the level of training and military supplies for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

      The fifth section is devoted to the expansion of human contacts and cooperation in the field of culture: Ukraine, as follows from the text (as submitted by Taylor), "welcomes the intention of the United States to increase its diplomatic presence in the Crimea." Format presence on the peninsula is still under discussion, "but it may be a structure with certain consular functions."

      The document also refers to the support of Kiev against Moscow on withdrawal of Russian Black Sea Fleet from Crimea.

      The fact that Crimea is the most promising ground for destabilization beneficial both Americans and official Kyiv, observers say not the first month. Periodically pop up in the media, various scenarios by which the Ukrainian "Democrats" try to blow this "powder keg" redirecting claims to Russia. Proclivities pro-Russian activists Peninsula (like attempts to regain the Crimea to Russia through the court ) at the same time severely punished, but to complete victory over SBU "dissidents", judging by the numerous symptoms, far away.

      Provocations on the "Crimean direction" really can not be avoided, we are convinced, in turn, Ukrainian Communists. U.S. prepares to throw to the east (aiming at this, of course, in Russia), but first they need to break the pro-Russian Crimea, ex-speaker of the Crimean parliament, Verkhovna Rada deputy Leonid Grach. Scheduled for next year open a representative office in Simferopol U.S. - the same series.

      The fact that Ukraine is in range of the attention of the new U.S. president, analysts have stated previously. Obama will counterbalance Russia Ukraine, said political analyst Sergei Taran: "The first time the Ukrainians may be neglected by the United States, as Obama will be busy with internal problems the United States. But in the long term efforts of the U.S. Obama will resume his authority in Europe, and in the long term, the new U.S. administration will pay particular attention to Ukraine, which could be a counterbalance to Russia in the region, and in the future - even counterbalance the old Europe example of modern Poland. "

      Ukraine will remain for the United States deterrent to Russia, agrees Ukrainian political analyst Andrei Yermolaev. According to him, Ukraine for American policy has been and remains instrumental object that is used in a rather cynical strategies.

      Most "visionary" already hard rehearsing for the upcoming bout Crimea : from the opera - held recently in Kiev command post exercise on "Actions volunteer units on the Crimean theater of operations after the Russian military aggression." Organizers merrymaking (National Salvation Committee, which includes the party "Brotherhood" and "New Force" and association "Northern Brotherhood") argue that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which will be held no later than 2011, the entire burden of resistance will be on voluntary organizations. Scenario Campaign General Staff of the Armed Forces has already been developed, sure "roleplayers".




      Постоянный адрес статьи:
      http://www.utro.ru/articles/2008/12/26/789711.shtml


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      Is Barack Obama Actually TRYING To Start World War III?

      By Michael Snyder
      Global Research, October 15, 2015
      The Economic Collapse Blog 12 October 2015

      Region: Middle East & North Africa
      Theme: Media Disinformation, Terrorism



      Why has Barack Obama airdropped 50 tons of ammunition into areas that “moderate rebels” in Syria supposedly control? This is essentially the equivalent of poking the Russians directly in the eyes. Much of this ammunition will end up in the hands of those that the Russians are attempting to bomb into oblivion, and so to Russia it appears that we are attempting to make their job much harder. And of course the truth is that there aren’t really any “moderate rebels” in Syria at all. Nearly all of the groups that are fighting are made up primarily of radical jihadists and/or hired mercenaries. Personally, I don’t see anyone over there that you could call “the good guys”. At the end of the day, the U.S. supports just about anyone that wants to get rid of the Assad regime, and the Russians are working very hard to keep Assad in power.

      Just like the civil war in Ukraine, the conflict in Syria is in great danger of being transformed into a proxy war between the United States and Russia, and many fear that these conflicts could eventually be setting the stage for World War III.
      The ferocity of Russian airstrikes in Syria has surprised observers all over the planet, and over the past couple of days these airstrikes have been extended to include some new areas

      Russian Air Forces have extended the range of their airstrikes on Islamic State positions in Syria to four provinces, focusing primarily on demolishing fortified installations and eliminating supply bases and the terrorists’ infrastructure.

      Over the last 24 hours Russian aircraft have attacked terrorist positions in the Hama, Idlib, Latakia and Raqqa provinces of Syria. In total, 64 sorties targeted 63 Islamic State installations, among them 53 fortified zones, 7 arms depots, 4 training camps and a command post.

      When I read reports like this, I am deeply troubled. The Obama administration claims that it has been bombing ISIS positions in Syria for over a year. So why in the world do these targets still exist? Was the U.S. military incapable of finding these installations? That doesn’t seem likely. So why weren’t they destroyed long ago? Did the Obama administration not want them destroyed for some reason? What seems abundantly clear is that the Russians are doing what the Obama administration was either unwilling or unable to do. There is now mass panic among ISIS fighters, and thousands of them are fleeing the country


      An estimated 3,000 Islamic State fighters as well as militants from other extremist groups have fled Syria for Jordan fearing a renewed offensive by the Syrian army in addition to Russian airstrikes, a military official has told RIA news agency.

      “At least 3,000 militants from Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), al-Nusra and Jaish al-Yarmouk have fled to Jordan. They are afraid of the Syrian army having stepped up activities on all fronts and of Russian airstrikes,” the RIA source said.

      The mainstream media in the United States is not talking much about this, are they? But the U.S. media is reporting on this latest airdrop of ammunition to rebel groups in Syria. For example, the following comes from CNN

      U.S. military cargo planes gave 50 tons of ammunition to rebel groups overnight in northern Syria, using an air drop of 112 pallets as the first step in the Obama Administration’s urgent effort to find new ways to support those groups.

      Details of the air mission over Syria were confirmed by a U.S. official not authorized to speak publicly because the details have not yet been formally announced.

      C-17s, accompanied by fighter escort aircraft, dropped small arms ammunition and other items like hand grenades in Hasakah province in northern Syria to a coalition of rebels groups vetted by the US, known as the Syrian Arab Coalition.
      If you were the Russians, how would you feel about this? I know how I would feel. And just as Joe Biden has previously admitted, the “moderate middle” in Syria simply does not exist. The following is an extended excerpt from a piece that was originally written by investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed


      The first Russian airstrikes hit the rebel-held town of Talbisah north of Homs City, home to al-Qaeda’s official Syrian arm, Jabhat al-Nusra, and the pro-al-Qaeda Ahrar al-Sham, among other local rebel groups. Both al-Nusra and the Islamic State have claimed responsibility for vehicle-borne IEDs (VBIEDs) in Homs City, which is 12 kilometers south of Talbisah.

      The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) reports that as part of “US and Turkish efforts to establish an ISIS ‘free zone’ in the northern Aleppo countryside,” al-Nusra “withdrew from the border and reportedly reinforced positions in this rebel-held pocket north of Homs city”.

      In other words, the US and Turkey are actively sponsoring “moderate” Syrian rebels in the form of al-Qaeda, which Washington DC-based risk analysis firm Valen Globals forecasts will be “a bigger threat to global security” than IS in coming years.

      Last October, Vice President Joe Biden conceded that there is “no moderate middle” among the Syrian opposition. Turkey and the Gulf powers armed and funded “anyone who would fight against Assad,” including “al-Nusra,” “al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI),” and the “extremist elements of jihadis who were coming from other parts of the world”.

      In other words, the CIA-backed rebels targeted by Russia are not moderates. They represent the same melting pot of al-Qaeda affiliated networks that spawned the Islamic State in the first place.

      It has been well documented that many of these so-called “moderate rebel groups” in Syria have fought alongside ISIS and have sold weapons to them. So this false dichotomy that Barack Obama keeps trying to sell us on is just a giant fraud. The following comes from a recent ******** report


      In September, 2014 a commander with the FSA admitted cooperating with ISIS and the al-Nusra Front.

      “We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in … Qalamoun,” Bassel Idriss said. “Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in Qalamoun and we as FSA would collaborate on any mission they launch as long as it coincides with our values.”

      In July of 2014 a report in Stars and Stripes documented how the 1,000 strong Dawud Brigade, which had previously fought alongside the FSA against al-Assad, had defected in its entirety to join ISIS.

      The same month factions within the FSA — including Ahl Al Athar and Ibin al-Qa’im — pledged services to the Islamic State.

      Members of the Islamic State claim to cooperate with the FSA and buy weapons provided by the U.S.

      “We are buying weapons from the FSA. We bought 200 anti-aircraft missiles and Koncourse anti tank weapons,” ISIS member Abu Atheer told al-Jazeera. “We have good relations with our brothers in the FSA. For us, the infidels are those who cooperate with the West to fight Islam.”
      U.S. anti-tank weapons are playing a critical role in the Syrian conflict. As reported by the Washington Post, U.S.-made anti-tank missiles are being used by the rebels to destroy lots of Russian-made tanks that are being used by the Syrian army…


      So successful have they been in driving rebel gains in northwestern Syria that rebels call the missile the “Assad Tamer,” a play on the word Assad, which means lion. And in recent days they have been used with great success to slow the Russian-backed offensive aimed at recapturing ground from the rebels.

      Since Wednesday, when Syrian troops launched their first offensive backed by the might of Russia’s military, dozens of videos have been posted on YouTube showing rebels firing the U.S.-made missiles at Russian-made tanks and armored vehicles belonging to the Syrian army. Appearing as twirling balls of light, they zigzag across the Syrian countryside until they find and blast their target in a ball of flame.
      Like I said earlier, this is looking more and more like a proxy war between the United States and Russia. Could that be what Obama actually wants? Obama is poking China in the eyes lately too. CNN is reporting that U.S. warships may soon be sailing into territorial waters around the Spratly Islands. These are islands that the Chinese government claims ownership over, but the U.S. government disputes that claim, and Obama seems determined to flex his muscles in the area…


      The United States (US) may soon deploy war ships near China’s artificial islands in the South China Sea.

      It wants to send a message that it does not recognize China’s territorial claims over the area.

      This is according to a Financial Times report quoting a senior U.S. official who said its ships will sail within 12-nautical-mile zones that China claims as its territory around the Spratly Islands within the next two weeks.
      If Obama sends warships into that area, there is a very real chance that they could get shot at. According to Newsweek, the Chinese are saying that they will not permit U.S. ships to violate those territorial waters under any circumstances…


      We will never allow any country to violate China’s territorial waters and airspace in the Spratly Islands, in the name of protecting freedom of navigation and overflight,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in response to a question about possible U.S. patrols. “We urge the related parties not to take any provocative actions, and genuinely take a responsible stance on regional peace and stability.”

      Such exchanges appear to be moving China and the U.S. toward a much feared, yet long expected, military confrontation. Just as unsettling, both sides seem confident they can prevail.
      Over the past couple of years our relations with China have really gone downhill very rapidly, and if the trading relationship between the two largest economies on the planet breaks down, that would have massive implications for the entire global economy. In addition to everything above, the civil war in Ukraine continues to rage on.

      The United States funded, equipped, trained and organized the forces that violently overthrew the democratically-elected government in Ukraine, and then once those thugs (which actually included some neo-Nazis) took power, the Obama administration immediately recognized them as the legitimate government of Ukraine.

      The Russians were absolutely infuriated by this, and they have been providing soldiers, equipment and supplies to the rebel groups that are fighting back against this new government. Of course the Russians deny that they are doing this, but it is exceedingly obvious that they are.

      The rebel groups that the Russians have been backing have been doing very well and have been steadily taking ground, and this is not how the power brokers in D.C. envisioned things playing out in Ukraine. So in a desperate attempt to shift the momentum of the conflict, a bill is going through Congress that would provide “lethal military aid” to the government in Kiev. Initially the bill would have provided 200 million dollars in lethal aid, but now it has been upped to 300 million dollars. There are some that believe that the final figure will be significantly higher. Once this bill gets passed, it will be an extremely important event.

      For the Russians, it will mean crossing a red line that never should have been crossed.

      You see, the truth is that Ukraine is Russia’s most important neighbor. Just imagine how we would feel if the Russians helped overthrow Canada’s government and then start feeding weapons to the new pro-Russian government that they helped install. That is exactly how the Russians view our meddling in Ukraine.

      Earlier this year, I wrote an article in which I discussed an opinion poll that showed that 81 percent of all Russians now view the United States negatively, and only 13 percent of Russians have a positive view of this nation. Not even during the height of the Cold War were the numbers that bad. The stage is being set for World War III, but most Americans are completely and totally oblivious to all of this because they are so wrapped up in their own little worlds.

      Most Americans still seem to assume that the Russians and the Chinese are our “friends” and that any type of conflict between major global powers is impossible. Well, the truth is that conflict has already begun in Ukraine and Syria, and tensions are rising with each passing day. It won’t happen next week or next month, but we are on the road to World War III. So what will the end result be?

      Please feel free to share your thoughts by posting a comment below… The original source of this article is The Economic Collapse Blog

      Copyright © Michael Snyder, The Economic Collapse Blog, 2015


      Russia: America Has Started World War 3 In Syria

      Posted on September 19, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in News, World // 0 Comments


      The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has accused the U.S. of igniting World War 3 by deliberately killing Syrian troops and aiding ISIS terrorists.

      Top Russian military officials have warned that the U.S. deliberately killed 62 servicemen in order to provoke a war against Russia.

      Inquisitr.com reports:

      Sputnik News reported September 18 that top Russian military officials are questioning the veracity of their American counterparts who claim that the airstrike on the Syrian military base was a mistake. But one Russian official, First Deputy Chairman of the Defense and Security Committee and Federation Council member Franz Klintsevich, told Russian news agency RIA Novosti that he believes the coordinated attack by two F-16 fighter jets and two A10 ground attack aircraft — which originated out of Iraq — was deliberate.

      “The US conducted airstrikes on government forces in Syria deliberately and thoughtfully. Any aerial operation is coordinated with commanders on the ground. In this case [the US] used information received from their intelligence units who infiltrated Daesh [derogatory term for ISIS, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria].”

      Others have been more restrained in their allegations toward the United States. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov noted that if the U.S. airstrike was accidental, the incident was “a direct consequence of the US’ unwillingness to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia.”

      Klintsevich pointed out that the airstrike was in line with policymaking in Washington, which takes the position that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, should be deposed and replaced by the U.S.-backed rebels. He said that the U.S. was acting to “maintain their economic interests” in the area.

      Accusations and allegations aside, all agreed that the cease-fire being negotiated between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Geneva was in jeopardy.

      Russia’s United Nations envoy, Vitaly Churkin, stated that he found the timing of the U.S. airstrike “suspicious,” given the ongoing cease-fire negotiations. He said that “some aspects of the situation suggest that it could have well been a provocation.” But, he was quick to add, the attack did not necessarily mean that the ceasefire deal was over.

      It is unclear whether or not the U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base at Deir ez-Zor had anything to do with the several bombings in late July of a U.S. base in Syria. According to the Wall Street Journal (via Fox News), U.S. defense and intelligence officials reported that Russian aircraft had bombed a base maintained by U.S. and British forces, and had done so again 90 minutes after being warned that it was not to be targeted. The officials said they believed that Russia was attempting to pressure the U.S. into coordinating its air war with the Russian military.

      Heightened tensions have only increased fears of an escalation of events in the region to the point of World War 3. Of course, this has been an ongoing concern since Russia entered the multinational fray (September 30, 2015, according to BBC News), ostensibly to join in the fight against ISIS but seen by the world as to act as an ally and prop for the then tottering regime of Bashar al-Assad. Regardless, Russia’s entrance also increased the chances of accidental incidents that could quickly spiral into military confrontations — incidents like Russia bombing a known American base and the U.S. bombing a known Syrian Army base. (Russian officials have also voiced concern over the possibility, after Saturday’s attack, that the U.S. could mistakenly bomb a Russian airbase.)

      Similar scenarios of a potential World War 3 trigger have been presented before. In a September 2015 article, the Telegraph offered that the advent of World War 3 could very well be a confrontation or accident in Syria’s crowded skies.

      “Indeed, the skies over Syria are starting to get dangerously crowded, with Russian jets flying near US planes on bombing runs, and sparring with NATO air defenses in neighboring Turkey.”

      For the record, Turkey is also now involved in the war inside Syria. As reported by Al Jazeera, tensions with Russia escalated in November when a Turkish fighter shot down a Russian bomber that was claimed to have entered Turkish airspace and repeatedly warned to depart the area.

      The U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base is just the latest incident of potential diplomatic and political calamity in an already volatile region of the world. According to the New York Times, American military officials admitted that U.S. pilots had targeted a Syrian Army base, but the pilots had thought they were attacking ISIS facilities in the area. A senior Obama administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Times that the United States had stated its regrets to Syria’s government through the Russians for the “unintentional loss of life of Syrian forces” in the ongoing war against ISIS.

      Will historians one day look back on the events of the last few months as the precursors to World War 3? Or will they go back further to when Russia entered the conflict? Of course, historians could go even further back to the creation of the caliphate of the Islamic State or even the creation of ISIS. Regardless, for now, World War 3 history is only the province of speculation, but the fears of a major multinational conflict, given the historical ease with which other world wars have begun, are founded in realistic potentialities.



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      “F**k the EU!”: US diplomat’s Ukraine phonecall leaked via Youtube

      Washington is accusing Russia of capturing the conversation and uploading it to the site.

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      THE US GOVERNMENT is trying to defuse a potential row with its European allies after the leak of an embarrassing phone call in which a top US diplomat cursed the EU response to the Ukraine crisis.

      The leak of the bugged conversation came as Ukraine’s embattled president, Viktor Yanukovych, flew to Sochi, Russia late last night for crisis talks with Russian counterpart and ally Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the opening ceremony for the Winter Olympics.

      Washington and Brussels have engaged in a diplomatic standoff with Kiev and Moscow over mass pro-EU protests that erupted in Ukraine when Yanukovych in November rejected a pact with the EU under Russian pressure.

      But the leaked phone call appears to reveal US frustration with the EU over handling Ukraine, which is torn between leaning to the European Union and its past master Russia.

      Washington’s new top diplomat for Europe, Victoria Nuland, has apologised to EU counterparts after she was caught cursing the European response to the crisis in Kiev.



      (Youtube: datboi5000)

      “F**k the EU,” Nuland allegedly says, in what appeared to be a recent phone call with US ambassador to Kiev, Geoff Pyatt, which was somehow intercepted and uploaded onto YouTube. The original video was accompanied by Russian captions.

      US officials, while not denying such a conversation took place, refused to go into details, and pointed the finger at Russia for allegedly bugging the diplomats’ phones.

      “Let me convey that she has been in contact with her EU counterparts, and of course has apologised,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

      While Psaki said she had no independent details of how the conversation was captured and uploaded onto the social networking site, she added: “Certainly we think this is a new low in Russian tradecraft.”

      Klitschko offer

      Nuland, who took over late last year as assistant secretary for European affairs, and Pyatt appear to discuss Yanukovych’s offer last month to make opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk the new prime minister and Vitaly Klitschko deputy prime minister. Both men turned the offer down.

      Nuland, who in December went down to Independence Square in Kiev in a show of support for the demonstrators, adds she has also been told that the UN chief Ban Ki-moon is about to appoint a former Dutch ambassador to Kiev, Robert Serry, as his representative to Ukraine.

      “That would be great I think to help glue this thing and have the UN glue it and you know, f**k the EU,” she says.


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      U.S. Diplomat’s F-Bomb Overshadows Russia’s Warning on Ukraine

      February 7, 2014 - 4:39 AM
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      Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

      (CNSNews.com) – A media furor over a leaked phone conversation between senior U.S. diplomats discussing the Ukraine crisis is overshadowing a Kremlin adviser’s accusations of U.S. interference in Ukraine – and his warning that Russia could intervene to maintain its security.

      Administration officials are implying that the Russian authorities intercepted and posted on YouTube of an audio recording of a purported phone conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the U.S. Ambassador in Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt. The State Department is not disputing its authenticity.

      The kerfuffle over the leaked conversation – in which Nuland says, “f*** the E.U.” -- has diverted attention from a newspaper interview published Thursday in which Sergei Glazyev, an adviser to President Vladimir Putin, accused the U.S. of “unilaterally and crudely interfering in Ukraine’s internal affairs.”

      Glazyev told the Kommersant daily’s Ukraine edition that the U.S. was funding and arming the Ukrainian “opposition and rebels” trying to oust embattled President Viktor Yanukovich.

      Asked whether Russia would actively intervene if the crisis worsened, Glazyev told the Kommersant daily’s Ukraine edition that America’s interference in Ukraine’s internal affairs was a clear breach of a 1994 document Ukraine’s security after Kiev surrendered its nuclear arsenal inherited from the Soviet Union, which had dissolved three years earlier.

      Under that 1994 memorandum, he continued, “Russia and the U.S. are guarantors of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and, frankly, they are obliged to intervene when conflict situations of this kind arise.”

      Glazyev’s comments were quickly eclipsed by the leaked Nuland-Pyatt recording, with most attention not surprisingly focused on Nuland’s use of an obscenity in relation to the European Union’s stance on Ukraine.

      But the conversation more broadly will also feed Russian allegations of U.S. meddling in the crisis, which erupted when Yanukovich reversed course last November on closer ties with the E.U. in favor of stronger links to Russia.

      In a bid to end the turmoil, Yanukovich late last month offered two opposition leaders, Arseniy Yatsenyuk and Vitali Klitschko, the posts of prime minister and deputy prime minister respectively. Both declined.

      In the leaked conversation, Nuland and Pyatt are heard to favor a role for Yatsenyuk, but to agree that Klitschko should not to be brought into the government.
      “I don’t think it’s necessary [for Klitschko to have a role in government],” Nuland is heard to say. “I don’t think it’s a good idea.”

      Pyatt agrees: “In terms of him [Klitschko] not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff.”

      Nuland goes on to mention that U.N. Secretary-General Ben Ki-moon is about to appoint an envoy to Ukraine.

      “That would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the U.N. glue it – and you know, f*** the E.U.” she says.

      “Uh, exactly,” replies Pyatt. “And I think we’ve got to do something to make it stick together, because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it.”

      ‘Small frustrations’

      State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki at a daily press briefing did not dispute that the leaked recording was authentic, saying that Nuland has apologized to her E.U. counterparts for the “reported comments.”

      “Certainly we think this is a new low in Russian tradecraft in terms of publicizing and posting this [online],” she said. (White House press secretary Jay Carney separately also raised questions about “Russia’s role”.)

      A reporter suggested that the recording – with two senior officials apparently discussing brokering a new government for Ukraine, determining its makeup and getting the U.N. to seal the deal – would be seen as demonstrating U.S. interference in a sovereign state’s affairs.

      “This is more than the U.S. making suggestions,” the reporter said. “This is the U.S. midwifing the process.”

      “Of course these things are discussed,” Psaki replied. “It doesn’t change the fact that it’s up to the people on the ground, it is up to the people of Ukraine, to determine what the path forward is.”

      Asked about Nuland’s evident frustration with the E.U., Psaki said, “I wouldn’t overanalyze one – a couple of words that were used on a phone call as to having larger meaning about some sort of ongoing issue.”

      “There are, of course, moments in every diplomatic relationship where you have small frustrations, where you agree, you disagree, you work through the issues, you talk about what the best step to take is, and that certainly has been the case here, which should be no surprise.”

      The U.S. and E.U. have not always seen eye-to-eye over Ukraine, with the E.U. uneasy about U.S. proposals considering imposing sanctions on Kiev.

      Psaki went on to suggest that Nuland may have learned to swear while working on a Russian fishing boat as a young woman.

      “You all know Toria pretty well. You may know the story of how she lived on a Russian boat for about eight months when she was 23, and she learned how to perfect perhaps certain words in a couple of languages.”

      When Secretary of State John Kerry conducted her assistant secretary swearing-in ceremony last September, he said, “As some of you may know, she worked on a Soviet fishing trawler in the Pacific, an incredible undertaking.”


      “She has also served in some of the most challenging and demanding foreign policy positions in the U.S. government,” he added, “some of which I am sure made her feel like she wished she would be back on that fishing trawler at times.”

      Nuland told the New York Times in 2012 that she “learned to drink aboard a Soviet fishing trawler in my early 20s, so my favorite summer beverage is still an ice-cold Stoli with an ocean view.”



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      Russia would use its nuclear weapons in response to an incoming missile attack, Vladimir Putin has said.

      The Russian president said the country would only launch a nuclear strike if its early warning systems spot missiles heading toward its territory.

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      #UPDATE: #Russia air force strategic bombers have been noted airborne, where exactly is unkown. -Gage https://t.co/RmyqHKOrWU
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      World War 3 alert: Royal Navy warship swarmed by 17 Russian fighter jets in Black Sea

      THIS is the dramatic moment 17 Russian fighter jets swarmed around a Royal Navy warship in the Black Sea near Crimea.

      By Tom Nellist




      The remarkable footage shows HMS Duncan being ‘buzzed’ by the Russian jets as it led a NATO fleet through the disputed region earlier this year. The government labelled the incident, which happened in May, an act of “brazen hostility”. In the footage, which was filmed as part of a Channel 5 documentary, Russian jets can be seen circling around HMS Duncan and the NATO fleet.

      The jets, which are a mix of fighters and bombers, are shown coming so close to HMS Duncan the crew is worried their high-powered radars might scramble the jets’ computer systems causing them to crash.

      Naval officers on the £1billion Type 45 Destroyer then issued a warning to the Russian pilots amid fears the planes might attack.

      One communications technician told the Russians: “We are operating high powered radars. Request you remain outside of two miles for your safety.”

      One Russian pilot gives a threatening replied “Good luck guys” before the jets return to their airbase.


      HMS Duncan was swarmed by 17 Russian fighter jets near Ukraine earlier this year (Image: Channel 5)

      The documentary, called Warship: Life at Sea and broadcast tonight, also shows one of Duncan's 280 naval crew saying she thought the incident was Moscow trying to send a warning to NATO.

      Commander Eleanor Stack, Duncan's captain, said: “To me if felt unprecedented. There were more aircraft than we have seen in a long time.”

      However another sailor believed Russia, despite the dangerous pass, would never have carried out an attack.

      The sailor said: “They had 17 aircraft, we have 48 missiles - I think we're going to win that one.”


      HMS Duncan was leading a NATO task force near Ukraine when it was swarmed by Russian jets (Image: GETTY)

      Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson said: “Over the past year, HMS Duncan and her crew have embodied the key role the UK plays in Nato.

      “As Nato flagship, she has faced down brazen Russian hostility in the Black Sea with jets buzzing overhead.

      “She has been stalked by Russian spy ships and played a vital role protecting Nato allies during the British, American and French strikes against Syrian chemical weapons facilities.

      “Through her deployment, this world-leading ship and her crew epitomised the nation we are going to be as we exit the EU.

      “A truly global Britain which is outward-looking and engaged on the world stage.”


      Commodore Mike Utley praised his crew for how they dealt with the incident (Image: Channel 5)

      Commodore Mike Utley, who was in charge of the NATO task force from HMS Duncan’s bridge, said: “This ship is probably the only maritime asset that has seen a raid of that magnitude in the last 25 years.

      “I think their tactics are naive. What they don't know is how capable the ship is.

      “When you see that much activity, I think it reinforces the nature of what people expect at the moment and why there is a challenge from Russia.”

      HMS Duncan, which launched in 2010 and is named after 18th century Royal Navy admiral Viscount Adam Duncan, is currently based in Portsmouth after carrying out the NATO naval operations in the disputed Crimean waters.



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      Russian anti-ship missiles filmed moving towards Kerch after flare-up with Ukraine (VIDEO)





      A large column of Russian military hardware, including anti-ship missile systems, has been spotted moving towards the Crimean city of Kerch, after Russian border guards faced off with Ukrainian ships violating Russia’s border.

      A video exclusively obtained by RT’s video agency Ruptly shows a whole column of military trucks, as well as several ‘Bal’ coastal defense systems, moving along a road in Crimea. The troops were being relocated to an area near the city of Kerch, following the tense standoff on Sunday with a group of Ukrainian ships that, despite repeated warnings, had breached Russia’s territorial waters in the Kerch Strait.

      The ‘Bal’ systems are equipped with eight X-35 cruise anti-ship missiles, capable of hitting vessels with displacement tonnages up to 5,000 tons at a distance of up to 20 kilometers.



      The video emerged hours after the head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) admitted that intelligence agents had been on the ships which entered Russian waters. Russia’s FSB had earlier accused the SBU or coordinating the “provocation,” and also released a confession of one of the two SBU officers detained and interrogated after the chase was over.

      Moscow said the Ukrainian vessels had failed to apply to pass through the narrow strait as required, and were undertaking dangerous maneuvers while ignoring the orders of the Russian border guards. Following an intense hours-long game of cat-and-mouse and the blocked Ukrainians’ attempt to break through, the guards saw no option but to open fire and seize the vessels. Several Ukrainians who received shrapnel wounds were immediately treated and hospitalized.

      Kiev immediately accused Russia of “aggression” and, on Monday, imposed martial law on its territories bordering Russia as well as along the coast of the Black and the Azov Seas. Moscow, in turn, has accused Kiev of staging a planned provocation aimed at stirring up the conflict between the two neighbors and justifying the imposition of martial law ahead of the presidential vote in March, in which President Petro Poroshenko is trailing behind several candidates in polls.