Re: ‘U.S. Day of Rage’ Being Orchestrated for ‘Worldwide Democracy’
Hello Peterle.
I was only suggesting that as a site where we collect and discuss various matters including the Anonymous group, we are essentially at odds with them, though by overall opinion.
I am not suggesting we have a mole or otherwise, as what point would that be?
By saying 'point taken', I meant your taunt to hack you stated on a closed server has a point, but wont go far for message being we are not indexed.
December 24th, 2011, 04:32
Phil Fiord
Re: ‘U.S. Day of Rage’ Being Orchestrated for ‘Worldwide Democracy’
In the US some jurisdictions do openly list names and salaries of officers. Fairfax County, Virginia did that a year or so ago. What is not listed, for good reason, is an officers home address, home and cell number, email address and anything beyond what is common public information online or in real life.
As much hate is thrown at police, I can say for a fact I know many police officers who are fine people doing a job and doing it honestly. I have relatives who have been police, not to mention military. Now, like any field of work there are those who are not good or decent in the job and the same can be said in any field. To post the info posted is a very dangerous thing that can get a cop and or their family killed.
If one scoffs at that, consider that police arrest people for alleged crimes. Some are quite dangerous. If an MS13 leader is arrested and they get that cops home address, phone and such, does one think the MS13 would not use that info?
December 30th, 2011, 02:13
Ryan Ruck
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Noam Chomsky has advice for the Occupy movement, whose encampments all over the country are being swept away by police. The occupations were a "brilliant" idea, he says, but now it's time to "move on to the next stage" in tactics. He suggests political organizing in the neighborhoods.
The Occupy camps have shown people how "to break out of this conception that we're isolated." But "just occupying" has "lived its life," says the man who is the most revered radical critic of American politics and capitalist economics.
Chomsky gave his counsel answering questions in a small group after a speech Monday evening, December 12, in the 1000-seat Westbrook Middle School auditorium (a/k/a Westbrook Performing Arts Center), which was filled to capacity. The speech was sponsored by the University of New England's Center for Global Humanities.
The Occupy movement's repression, which Chomsky decried, has a saving grace, he said: the opportunity for it to expand more into "the 99 percent" by engaging people "face to face."
"Don't be obsessed with tactics but with purpose," he suggested. "Tactics have a half life."
Much is at stake. An angry and frustrated population, as exists now in this country, provides "a combustible mix," he said, adding: "Look at Weimar Germany" — the economically and politically turbulent time in Germany in the early 20th century that led to the rule of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis.
Chomsky's speech was entitled "Arab Spring, American Winter." In it, he presented the Occupy movement as the first popular reaction to a "vicious class war" waged against working people for over 30 years in the United States, just as the Arab Spring uprisings this year in the Middle East and North Africa were reactions to decades or centuries of repression by wealthy elites supported by the United States and other Western powers.
Greeted with a standing ovation, on top of his game at 83, he stood, in jeans and sweater, talking and answering questions for two hours in his always-even voice.
Riffing from one topic to another, Chomsky — who, an emeritus professor at MIT, also is known as the father of modern linguistics — demonstrated an encyclopedic knowledge of American foreign policy and history, citing stunningly revealing official documents chronicling our country's economic and military predations abroad.
He compared the rule of international elites over Middle Eastern, African, Latin American, and Asian countries to the rule of the rich 1 percent — it is often the rule of one-tenth of one percent, he suggested — in the United States.
Quoting Adam Smith, the 18th-century father of capitalist theory, Chomsky delved into the roots of the neoliberal soak-the-poor philosophy dominant worldwide. "We're essentially living in a nightmare" that the classical economists predicted, he said.
This nightmare's concentration of wealth "accelerates" political-campaign-money competition, he said, driving politicians into the arms of wealthy interests. One result: "The Democrats are now what used to be called moderate Republicans."
(Recently this reporter asked a prominent Augusta figure if he thought the Occupy movement would make Maine Democrats less like Republicans. He replied that the occupiers "don't finance the campaigns.")
Palma Ryan, 59, who is staying at the Occupy camp in Portland's Lincoln Park, said about 40 occupiers were at the speech. Her reaction to hearing Chomsky: "He is so validating. You leave saying 'yes, yes, yes!'"
Despite what counts in the Portland area as an enormous crowd, the daily press barely covered the event — commonly the case for Chomsky.
January 4th, 2012, 15:14
American Patriot
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Quote:
Palma Ryan, 59, who is staying at the Occupy camp in Portland's Lincoln Park, said about 40 occupiers were at the speech. Her reaction to hearing Chomsky: "He is so validating. You leave saying 'yes, yes, yes!'"
This is what brainwashing is about.
January 5th, 2012, 05:23
Ryan Ruck
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As reported earlier, the Occupy Wall Street movement’s New Years Eve effort to retake Zuccotti Park was blocked by the NYPD. However, something else reportedly happened when an ambulance tried to take a stabbed police officer to the hospital.
According to the New York Post, at least one officer was injured in the clash with the swarm of protesters. The unidentified member of the NYPD was slashed on the hand with a pair of scissors and required medical treatment. However, the ambulance carrying the officer experienced some difficulty in getting the wounded man to the hospital.
The Post reports:
Hundreds in the crowd of occupiers then surrounded the ambulance as it tried to leave with the wounded officer, the source said.
The ambulance was eventually allowed to take the police officer to Bellevue Hospital where he is said to be in stable condition.
Earlier in the evening a group of 100 NYPD were on hand to deal with the OWS efforts on 12/31, additional police in riot gear were required to clear the park of protesters around 1:30am on January 1st.
Re: ‘U.S. Day of Rage’ Being Orchestrated for ‘Worldwide Democracy’
lol
January 6th, 2012, 16:20
Phil Fiord
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Nuero-linguistic Programming is how Obama won in 08 and how his campaign will try to have him win this time, but to a lesser extent. He has taken power grabs and the accusation of racism is already rampant and poised to benefit his campaign.
January 16th, 2012, 18:04
vector7
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You may think the Occupy Wall Street movement is fading away. You may think that colder weather and tougher local authorities will see “Occupy” crumble into nothingness. You may think it was all much ado about nothing.
Well you may possibly be right, but the communist forces who have increasingly infiltrated the movement have a very different view.
To them “Occupy” signifies is the beginning of the end of capitalism. “Occupy” is a sign to Leninists the world over that we are entering revolutionary times, and nothing will ever be the same again.
Re: ‘U.S. Day of Rage’ Being Orchestrated for ‘Worldwide Democracy’
I took a video of them Saturday. They were trying to scare people being loud and in their faces. Unfortunately I only got video of them marching and yelling and not in anyone's faces.
January 30th, 2012, 05:37
Ryan Ruck
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http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/u...g1-620x362.jpg Occupy Oakland protestors burn an American flag found inside Oakland City Hall during an Occupy Oakland protest on the steps of City Hall, Saturday, January 28, 2012, in Oakland, Calif.
Police arrested hundreds of Occupy Oakland protesters last Saturday night for failing to disperse hours after officers used tear gas on over a thousand demonstrators who threw rocks and flares at them and tore down fences.
More help from other police agencies arrived on scene for the mass arrests, with busloads of Alameda County sheriff’s deputies arriving in the downtown area late Saturday night.
Police Sgt. Christopher Bolton said the arrests came after protesters marched through downtown Oakland a little before 8 p.m. Saturday, with some of them entering a YMCA building.
At different moments on the livestream video, protestors could be heard yelling “Kill the police” and “F**k the police.”
This clip captures the moment on the livestream that police began the mass arrests:
Earlier in the day, police used tear gas and “flash” grenades on the group Saturday afternoon after some demonstrators threw rocks and other objects at them. Police said three officers were hurt, but they released no details.
This clip shows Occupy Oakland protestors in retreat after police opened fire with rubber bullets and tear gas:
Police said the group assembled at a downtown plaza Saturday morning, with demonstrators threatening to take over the vacant Henry Kaiser Convention Center. The group then marched through the streets, disrupting traffic. The crowd grew as the day wore on, with afternoon estimates ranging from about 1,000 to 2,000 people.
Oakland Police also deployed batons to deal with rowdy protestors, as seen below:
The protesters walked to the vacant convention center, where some started tearing down perimeter fencing and “destroying construction equipment” shortly before 3 p.m., police said.
Police said they issued a dispersal order and used smoke and tear gas after some protesters pelted them with bottles, rocks, burning flares and other objects.
Here police are seen on video firing rubber bullets into the crowd:
Most of the day-time arrests were made when protesters ignored orders to leave and assaulted officers, police said. By 4 p.m., the bulk of the crowd had left the convention center and headed back downtown.
The demonstration comes after Occupy protesters said earlier this week that they planned to move into a vacant building and turn it into a social center and political hub. They also threatened to try to shut down the port, occupy the airport and take over City Hall.
In a statement Friday, Oakland City Administrator Deanna Santana said the city would not be “bullied by threats of violence or illegal activity.”
Interim police Chief Howard Jordan also warned that officers would arrest those carrying out illegal actions.
Oakland officials said Friday that since the Occupy Oakland encampment was first established in late October, police have arrested about 300 people.
The national Occupy Wall Street movement, which denounces corporate excess and economic inequality, began in New York City in the fall but has been largely dormant lately.
Oakland, New York and Los Angeles were among the cities with the largest and most vocal Occupy protests early on. The demonstrations ebbed after those cities used force to move out hundreds of demonstrators who had set up tent cities.
In Oakland, the police department received heavy criticism for using force to break up earlier protests. Among the critics was Mayor Jean Quan, who said she wasn‘t briefed on the department’s plans. Earlier this month, a court-appointed monitor submitted a report to a federal judge that included “serious concerns” about the department’s handling of the Occupy protests.
In a statement Friday, Oakland City Administrator Deanna Santana said the city would not be “bullied by threats of violence or illegal activity.”
Interim police Chief Howard Jordan also warned that officers would arrest those carrying out illegal actions.
The Occupy Wall Street movement, which denounces corporate excess and economic inequality, began in New York City in the fall but has been largely dormant lately.
Oakland, New York and Los Angeles were among the cities with the largest and most vocal Occupy protests early on. The demonstrations ebbed after those cities used force to move out hundreds of demonstrators who had set up tent cities.
In Oakland, the police department received heavy criticism for using force to break up earlier protests. Among the critics was the mayor, who said she wasn’t briefed on the department’s plans.”
Earlier in the day, protestors clashed with police who used tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse them. You can see a series of video clips below taken from the Occupiers’ livestream camera during the riot:
Videos At Link
January 30th, 2012, 16:11
American Patriot
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Like I've said, when he's right, he'd dead on. But when he strays from being right, he's completely wrong.
February 15th, 2012, 18:56
Ryan Ruck
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Occupy Albany has announced an event in March called, The Weather Underground Meets Occupy Wall Street. The event will be held March 3rd, and is co-sponsored by The Sanctuary For Independent Media and the Albany Social Justice Center. It is described as, “A book event and multi-generational dialog to celebrate U.S. political prisoner David Gilbert’s new memoir, “Love and Struggle.”
Gilbert is currently serving time in the Auburn Correctional Facility and is described as “an American radical leftist organizer and activist.” He was imprisoned for his role in the Brinks Robbery of 1981, a botched effort that led to the murder of four people, including a security guard and two police officers.
Interestingly, Gilbert sounds strikingly similar to the Occupy protesters of today when he describes his actions during the robbery. In an interview in 1985, he described the scene as such:
“It was an attempted expropriation. That means taking money from those who amassed wealth by exploiting the people and using that money to finance the resistance.”
Justifying the killing of innocent people, and sugarcoating armed robbery by calling it ‘expropriation’. How Occupy of him.
And now according to their Facebook posting, and in support of Gilbert’s efforts, Occupy Albany will be participating in the so-called ‘book event’. Participants are also shilling for his new book.
The full description of events reads (emphasis mine):
David Gilbert’s new book, “Love and Struggle: My Life in SDS, the Weather Underground, and Beyond,” sparks a multi-generational dialogue about what social justice movements can learn from each other. Currently serving a life sentence for his participation in an armed action with a group of Black revolutionaries, Gilbert writes about the lessons learned in fifty years of a radical political life. A panel of today’s young activists will talk with ’60s revolutionaries about their common struggles, grounded by critical exchange and self-reflection.
So the Occupy movement is getting together to discuss common struggles with ’60s revolutionaries from the Weather Underground. Problem being, the Weather Underground, you may have heard, were not revolutionaries – they were terrorists. This is what the Occupy Wall Street movement is coming together for, to celebrate terrorist acts that they see parallels in?
One individual who has also heaped praise on Gilbert’s new book is Bill Ayers, former member of the Weather Underground, man who helped launch the first campaign of our current President, and unrepentant terrorist. Ayers took part in a series of bombings in the 1970s that killed three activists. The intent was much worse however, as the bombings were designed to kill army officers in New Jersey – It accidentally exploded in a New York townhouse.
Lest we forget that in regards to the day he successfully bombed the Pentagon, Ayers said, “Everything was absolutely ideal. … The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.”
And of course, there is William’s mantra to “Kill all the rich people. … Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents.”
More famously, in an article that appeared in the New York Times on September 11th, 2001, Ayers was quoted as saying that he did not regret setting bombs and, “I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Of course, none of this comes as much of a surprise. A few weeks ago, Occupy Albany participants were actively wondering why they hadn’t begun emulating clashes in Syria, in which over 35 people had been killed amidst reports of ‘blood being shed.’
Is this really where the Occupy Wall Street movement is headed? Is this an element they long to be associated with?
Sympathizing with known murderers and terrorists because they share ‘common struggles’ is a scary, scary sign.
February 24th, 2012, 06:29
Ryan Ruck
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A letter to the editor of USA Today is drawing considerable attention after it calls on protesters to consider using their “Second Amendment-sanctioned guns“ to ”storm Wall Street and our nation’s capitals.”
The author, Rich Latta from Austin, TX, is upset over a USA Today editorial that characterizes the Occupy movement as “fading into a whimper.”
“But with the recent clearing of encampments in Washington, D.C.— one of the last cities in which they still existed — a movement that came in with a bang appears to be going out with a whimper,” that original editorial reads. “Future political operatives might view it as a case study in how not to organize a lasting movement.”
It continues: “They did nothing day after day, week after week, under the mistaken belief that camping in public plazas would prompt some kind of action from others. … The Occupiers lacked identifiable leaders and clear goals. And they presented bewildering messages to the public, epitomized in the irony of people sitting idle to protest those who had made fortunes.”
For Latta, though, that just wouldn’t do.
“Anyone who claims the ‘Occupy’ movement has no clear message is either trying to discredit it or simply isn’t paying attention,” he writes in his response, the passion nearly visible in his keystrokes. “This protest always has been about economic injustice and the fact that a small handful of people have corrupted our system in their favor.”
He then boils over:
USA TODAY’s editorial is right to say that Occupy might lack clear goals on how to move forward, but the movement has accomplished its main original goal: to protest these injustices, not by simply holding a rally and going home, but by keeping the rally going to underscore the seriousness of this problem. Your piece accuses the protesters of sitting around and doing nothing. So maybe they should take up their Second Amendment-sanctioned guns and storm Wall Street and our nation’s capitals. If our country doesn’t change, it could very well come to that one day. [Emphasis added]
Ironic for a movement that has claimed to be so peaceful to attract someone who would make such a suggestion. And on top of that, it’s worth pointing out the letter is dated February 15, which means it’s over a week old. Jim Treacher explains why that is curious:
But an Occupier publishes a letter in a national newspaper about “storming Wall Street” with guns, and I don’t find out about it until a week later. It’s not seen as a credible threat, despite the fact that Occupy’s rap sheet dwarfs that of the Tea Party.
So who exactly is Rich Latta? We did some digging and found a Rich Latta from Austin, TX that’s a regular reviewer on Amazon. In fact, he has 405 reviews posted, many of obscure music albums; he has a birthday coming up (April 5); and in his “Interests” section he lists his “personal obsession” as “exposing the fallicy [sic] and harm of deity-based religions.”
“I believe our world can never hope to find peace until these religions are exposed and refuted by a courageous, truth-seeking public,” he writes. “In the meantime, I write music reviews for my own amusement to stay in practice when I’m not writing creatively.”
Could this be the same Rich Latta that wants to “maybe” take up arms against Wall St.? Maybe. We emailed the Rich Latta associated with the Amazon account and have yet to hear back. We’ll let you know if we do.
Or maybe you’ll see him on the news.
Let's get this party started!
February 24th, 2012, 15:46
American Patriot
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