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    Honestly, hit up Uncle Sam's Retail Outlet. They've got some Polartec stuff at some great prices.

    I'm planning on putting in an order for some polypro gear myself soon.

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    Where I'm going... I don't need roads... or cold weather clothing.

    Unless Global Cooling is real.

    Then we're all gonna DIE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    Where I'm going... I don't need roads... or cold weather clothing.

    Unless Global Cooling is real.

    Then we're all gonna DIE!

    Lol. Weren't these the same people who got pushy in the 70's and screamed about a 'new ice age' and even linked the issue to atomic weapons, through 'Nuclear Winter'?

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    They are the same people.

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    World's Top Climate Scientists Told To 'Cover Up' The Fact That The Earth's Temperature Hasn't Risen For The Last 15 Years

    September 19, 2013

    Scientists working on the most authoritative study on climate change were urged to cover up the fact that the world’s temperature hasn’t risen for the last 15 years, it is claimed.

    A leaked copy of a United Nations report, compiled by hundreds of scientists, shows politicians in Belgium, Germany, Hungary and the United States raised concerns about the final draft.

    Published next week, it is expected to address the fact that 1998 was the hottest year on record and world temperatures have not yet exceeded it, which scientists have so far struggled to explain.

    The report is the result of six years’ work by UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is seen as the world authority on the extent of climate change and what is causing it – on which governments including Britain’s base their green policies.

    But leaked documents seen by the Associated Press, yesterday revealed deep concerns among politicians about a lack of global warming over the past few years.

    Germany called for the references to the slowdown in warming to be deleted, saying looking at a time span of just 10 or 15 years was ‘misleading’ and they should focus on decades or centuries.

    Hungary worried the report would provide ammunition for deniers of man-made climate change.

    Belgium objected to using 1998 as a starting year for statistics, as it was exceptionally warm and makes the graph look flat - and suggested using 1999 or 2000 instead to give a more upward-pointing curve.

    The United States delegation even weighed in, urging the authors of the report to explain away the lack of warming using the ‘leading hypothesis’ among scientists that the lower warming is down to more heat being absorbed by the ocean – which has got hotter.

    The last IPCC ‘assessment report’ was published in 2007 and has been the subject of huge controversy after it had to correct the embarrassing claim that the Himalayas would melt by 2035.

    It was then engulfed in the ‘Climategate’ scandal surrounding leaked emails allegedly showing scientists involved in it trying to manipulate their data to make it look more convincing – although several inquiries found no wrongdoing.

    The latest report, which runs to 2,000 pages, will be shown to representatives from all 195 governments next week at a meeting in Stockholm, who can discuss alterations they want to make.

    But since it was issued to governments in June, they have raised hundreds of objections about the 20-page summary for policymakers, which sums up the findings of the scientists.

    What it says will inform renewable energy policies and how much consumers and businesses will pay for them.

    The report is expected to say the rate of warming between 1998 and 2012 was about half of the average rate since 1951 – and put this down to natural variations such as the El Nino and La Nina ocean cycles and the cooling effects of volcanoes.

    A German climate scientist - Stefan Rahmstorf, who reviewed the chapter on sea levels - yesterday admitted it was possible the report’s authors were feeling under pressure to address the slowdown in warming due to the ‘public debate’ around the issue.

    The draft report, which is not new research but a synthesis of all the work being done by scientists around the world, is likely to be highly disputed at the three-day meeting.

    It will make the case that humans are causing global warming with carbon emissions even more strongly upgrading it from ‘very likely’ in 2007 to ‘extremely likely’ it is manmade.

    But scientists are under pressure to explain why the warming has not exceeded 1998 levels although the decade 2000-2010 was the hottest on record.

    Alden Meyer, of the Union of Concerned Scientists based in Washington, said yesterday: ‘I think to not address it would be a problem because then you basically have the denialists saying: ‘Look the IPCC is silent on this issue.’

    Jonathan Lynn, a spokesman for the IPCC said yesterday: ‘This is the culmination of four years’ work by hundreds of scientists, where governments get a chance to ensure the summary for policymakers is clear and concise in a dialogue with the scientists who wrote it, and have the opportunity to raise any topics they think should be highlighted.’

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    Cover up?

    LOL

    Fuckers

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    Germany...

    "Germany called for the references to the slowdown in warming to be deleted, saying looking at a time span of just 10 or 15 years was ‘misleading’ and they should focus on decades or centuries.
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    Man made global warming....

    Wow.


    Think about this article. I'll highlight the most important part of the entire article for you in RED.

    6 November 2013 Last updated at 13:32 ET

    Predatory 'king of gore' dinosaur discovered

    By Melissa Hogenboom Science reporter, BBC News
    The new predator was on the same evolutionary line as T. rex




    A new super-predator dinosaur that roamed the Earth 80 million years ago has been discovered in southern Utah.


    It was closely related to its slightly larger relative, Tyrannosaurus rex, but lived earlier, making it the largest living land predator of its time.


    Growing to about 30ft (9m) long, the predator has been named Lythronax argestes which means "king of gore".


    The research, published in the journal Plos One, highlights once more that the age of discovery is far from over.


    The team also hopes this new find will help uncover what the climate was like towards the end of the age of dinosaurs.


    "It's always exciting to find new species but what's really significant is what these species tell us about their ancient world," said Randall Irmis, co-author of the study at the Natural History Museum of Utah, US.


    "This was a very different place 80 million years ago. It was a very lush, wet, tropical environment and there were no polar ice caps at the time."



    Tyrannosaurid dinosaurs

    • Lythronax belongs to a group of carnivorous dinosaurs called Tyrannosaurids, the same group as the T. rex
    • They are the greatest carnivores - though not the largest - to have walked the Earth
    • Lived in the Late Cretaceous Period, between 95-70 million years ago
    • The new find lived on a strip of land called Laramidia in western North America
    • This same area was home to a range of species such as the the horned and duck billed dinosaurs
    • Recently an unusual new species of horned dinosaur with a big nose was also discovered in the area





    Short snout First discovered in 2009, the partial skeleton included a number of bones from the skull and some from the rest of the body. The fossils were then excavated and studied in the lab.


    The new discovery was closely related to T. rex and shows that similar features evolved 10 million years earlier than previously thought.


    Lythronax had a short and narrow snout and forward slanting eyes. Like its evolutionary relative, it had a head full of sharp teeth and was a ferocious predator, the largest of its ecosystem.


    The team also uncovered the most complete fossils of another named species of Tyrannosaur - Teratophoneus curriei. It was previously only known from a few skull bones but the team now have more than 70% of its skeleton.


    "There's a whole diversity of different branches of the Tyrannosaur family tree that are waiting to be found out there," Dr Irmis told BBC News.


    It was previously unclear why there were so many different Tyrannosaurid species present in a similar area, as the animals were able to move around freely. The palaeontologists believe this was due to a changing of sea level.


    "We think that when the sea level was high it was isolating areas in western North America that caused different species to evolve in isolation and that's why we're finding so many different species," added Dr Irmis.


    He explained that the creature had been named the "King of Gore" because of its super-predator status. The second part of its name "argestes" comes from Greek poet Homer's naming of a south-westerly wind.



    Lythronax had binocular vision which made it a ferocious hunter


    "Tyrannosaurids were the really large predators in their ecosystem. It's fairly certain based on what we can see on their skull, teeth and body size they probably ate whatever they could fit in their mouths," added Dr Irmis.


    Apex predator

    Another research member of the team, Joseph Sertich of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, US, explained that the back of its skull was very wide which gave it good hunting eyes.


    "One of the things that makes T. rex different from other dinosaurs is that it is able to look forward, it has binocular vision. Lythronax had that feature as well, its field of view could overlap which probably made it a better hunter," Dr Sertich told BBC News.


    "It was the apex predator of it's time. It was the oldest advanced Tyrannosaur of its group, which is quite surprising.


    "This is the tip of the iceberg. It's amazing what we're finding in southern Utah right now. You can walk over some of the hills and find fossils littering the sides of the slopes," he added.


    Mike Benton at the University of Bristol, UK, who was not involved with the study, said the new find was important for understanding patterns of evolution of the Tyrannosaurids.


    "Previously, Tyrannosauri origins were uncertain, whether in Asia or North America, and the new find tends to suggest a mainly North American evolution for the group."




    The specimen discovered was 24ft long but was not a fully grown adult - estimated to be 30ft long

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    Calm Solar Cycle Prompts Questions About Impact On Earth

    November 24, 2013

    The surface of the sun has been surprisingly calm of late -- with fewer sunspots than anytime in in the last century -- prompting curious scientists to wonder just what it might mean here on Earth.

    Sunspots have been observed for millennia -- first by Chinese astronomers and then, for the first time with a telescope, by Galileo in 1610.

    The sunspots appear in roughly 11-year cycles -- increasing to a daily flurry and then subsiding drastically, before amping up again.

    But this cycle -- dubbed cycle 24 -- has surprised scientists with its sluggishness.

    The number of spots counted since it kicked off in December 2008 is well below the average observed over the last 250 years. In fact, it's less than half.

    "It is the weakest cycle the sun has been in for all the space age, for 50 years," National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association physicist Doug Biesecker told AFP.

    The intense electromagnetic energy from sunspots has a significant impact on the sun's ultraviolet and X-ray emissions as well as on solar storms.

    Solar storms can interrupt telecommunications and electronic networks on Earth. Sunspot activity can also have an impact on the Earth's climate.

    Cycle 23 hit its maximum in April 2000 with an average of 120 solar spots a day. The cycle then wound down, hitting bottom around December 2008, the point at which scientists marked the start of the current cycle.

    The minimal solar activity at the end of cycle 23 led astronomers to predict a slow cycle 24. But the reality fell even below expectations.

    In the first year of the cycle, during which solar activity should have risen, astronomers counted 266 days without a single sun spot.

    "The forecast peak was 90 sunspots," Biesecker said, noting that even though the activity has risen over the past year, "it's very clear it is not going to be close to 90."

    "The sunspots number peaked last year at 67, almost half a typical cycle," he added.

    The last time a sunspot cycle was this slow was in February 1906, the peak of cycle 14, with just 64 spots a day.

    The "very long minimum: three years, three times more than the previous three cycles of the space age" was a major surprise, said University of Montana physicist Andres Munoz-Jamillio.

    A Magnetic Switch

    Cycle 24 has also diverged from the norm in another surprising way.

    Typically, around the end of each 11-year sunspot cycle, the sun's magnetic fields switch direction. The northern and southern hemispheres change polarity, usually simultaneously.

    During the swap, the strength of the magnetic fields drops to near zero and reappears when the polarity is reversed, scientists explain.

    But this time, something different seems to be happening. The north pole already reversed its polarity several months ago -- and so it's now the same polarity as the south pole.

    According to the most recent satellite measurements, "the south hemisphere should flip on the near future," said Todd Hoeksema, director of the Wilcox Solar Observatory at Stanford University.

    He didn't seem concerned about the phenomenon.

    But scientists are watching the sun carefully to see whether cycle 24 is going to be an aberration -- or if this solar calmness is going to stretch through the next cycle as well.

    "We won't know that for another good three or four years," said Biesecker.

    Some researchers speculate this could be the start of a prolonged period of weak solar activity.

    The last time that happened, during the so-called "Maunder Minimum" between 1650 and 1715, almost no sunspots were observed. During the same period, temperatures dropped sharply on Earth, sparking what is called the "Little Ice Age" in Europe and North America.

    As the sunspot numbers continue to stay low, it's possible the Earth's climate is being affected again.

    But thanks to global warming, we're unlikely to see another ice age. "Things have not started to cooling, they just have not risen as quickly," Biesecker said.

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    I think it's causing Global Warming cuz it's -20 wind chills here in Colorado today!

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    I'm looking forward to the first snow...hoping to get some this weekend. I bought a frickin snow blower and I want to use it!!
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    You can have it.

    We have -11 wind chill right now. It was cold last night, like -20 they said. It was about 0 or -1 without windchill.

    And we had a bunch of snow. Yuk.

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    We're going to get our first serious blast of winter Friday.

    I've seen snow forecast totals all the way up to 10". We'll see... Then Sunday we're getting round 2.

    Good thing I'm off!

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    You're getting my cold weather.

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    I get it roughly 18-24 hours after he does.

    Looking at a shitty Monday morning commute...but hey, I"ll get to use my plow.
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    This isn't centered on Cincy but if this is an accurate forecast, I'm right in that 9"-12" band!


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    I'm right in that 9"-12"
    That's what SHE said....

    /grin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    I'm looking forward to the first snow...hoping to get some this weekend. I bought a frickin snow blower and I want to use it!!
    What did you end up getting for a snow blower?

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