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    Default John Titor. Where are we at now - compared to his tale?

    Keeping this within the subforum of Skeptics Corner, I propose we consider what was communicated in (2000) - 2001. I notate 2000 as it was when Titor first appeared, though his larger volumes of discussion came about in 2001.

    In 2001, Art Bell still had his Post to Post discussion boards. At least for a while. That year was strange and P2P was pulled offline with no notice.

    A month or two before P2P went offline, I used the print function on a thread named "I am from 2036". This created a .php extension file. It is downloadable and readable by opening in a browser tab.

    That save I did is now here for the grab. It was housed on Anomalies for years and many people took the saved file and used it to show others and even create recreations of the original site format. For my purpose, I only wanted a raw and correct archive. Something to refer to when questions and debate arose.

    The archive set for viewing by clicking or download the link. As its native format is web based, it can be opened in various programs now, but for ease I suggest any browser.

    http://www.transasianaxis.com/orig_s...rintthread.php

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    The year is 2013 and we are facing severe division among the US citizenry. It is also at near to 50/50 split and not all about politics.

    With North Korea's change in leadership, Kim Jung Un is showing so far he does what he says he will do and now he says he will nuke the US.

    Titor said we had a short nuclear WWIII in 2015, but things were said to ramp up to that.

    On hindsight, Titor claimed 2004/2005 we would start to see mini-Waco's. A beginning as it were. At that time many looked at the events and said, nope. Well, it was a start date, not an all out in your face event. Even now it is hard to point at 2004/2005 as a start as Titor suggested, but we know we are seeing a lot of infringing upon basic rights granted to a free people. Not the least of which is due process.

    So here in 2013, I ask for participants to take off the cap of daily life and consider with logic and fact what, if any part, of Titor's story could be real.

    Yes this matter has been examined 1000 ways to Sunday and accusations have been made and withdrawn about who Titor was. It is largely held by the Primary examiners from Anomalies who are also here, that it was more than one person and not real, based on many investigated matters. Maybe so. But maybe not.

    The point being, it is a tad chilling to read the news and see what is happening and think, "hmm. Didn't Titor reference something like this?"

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    One matter to reexamine may be the alleged copies from the manual. Tech in 2001 is very different than today and if we have a WWIII, I figure tech would be setback a while. So, perhaps in 2013 we can better identify parts in these images. Just a thought.

    An archive of images in .zip format is here: http://www.transasianaxis.com/orig_s...itorImages.zip

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    Good start
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    Ok, well... it has happened.

    We're now in deep, deep kimshe.



    Iranian scientist claims to have invented time machine

    Published April 11, 2013

    news.com.au



    In the movie "Back to the Future," Doc Brown builds a time machine into a Delorean. (Universal)

    An Iranian scientist has registered a time machine that he says will work with 98 percent accuracy.

    Ali Razeghi registered "The Aryayek Time Traveling Machine" with Iran's state-run Centre for Strategic Inventions, The Telegraph reports.

    He said the machine would use algorithms to predict the future of any individual, between five and eight years into their future.

    Mr Razeghi, 27, reportedly told Fars news agency he had been working on the project for the past 10 years.

    "My invention easily fits into the size of a personal computer case and can predict details of the next five-eight years of the life of its users. It will not take you into the future, it will bring the future to you," he said.

    The Telegraph reports Mr Razeghi is the managing director of Iran's Centre for Strategic Inventions, and that he has another 179 inventions registered in his name.

    He said the invention could help the government in predicting military conflict, but he had been criticised for trying to play God.

    "This project is not against our religious values at all. The Americans are trying to make this invention by spending millions of dollars on it where I have already achieved it by a fraction of the cost," he said.

    "The reason that we are not launching our prototype at this stage is that the Chinese will steal the idea and produce it in millions overnight."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/...#ixzz2QAzJUPKk
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    Algorithms to tell ones future. Maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Fiord View Post
    Algorithms to tell ones future. Maybe not.
    LOL, it was a joke Phil.
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    i did a little checking. The story is all over the web and on reputable sites as well as ********. Drudge is linking there again.

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    Oh it is a real story Phil. I checked before I posted it.
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    Okay so we all have come across the concept of given up freedoms for security and Titor warned of this too. In the early debate, the Patriot Act was seen by some as a flag for this concept. Indeed it may be true, but I happened across an article this afternoon that shows at least one 4th grade student is being indoctrinated with the idea that one should give up some rights for security.

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/04/12/...ecurity-is-ok/

    Indoctrination: 4th grader taught giving up rights for security is ok


    Video at Link above.

    This morning, TheBlaze posted a shocking story out of a Florida elementary school. A father, Aaron Harvey, is furious with Cedar Hills Elementary in Jacksonville, Florida after finding a piece of paper in his fourth grade son’s backpack that read: “I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure.”

    According to TheBlaze:
    Back in January, a local attorney came in to teach the students about the Bill of Rights. But after the attorney left, fourth-grade teacher Cheryl Sabb dictated the sentence to part of the class and had them copy it down, [Harvey] said.


    The paper sat unnoticed in Harvey’s son’s backpack for several months until last week, when his son’s mother almost threw it away. The words caught her eye in the trash, and she showed it to Harvey, who said he was at a loss for words. He asked his son, who said Sabb had spoken the sentence out loud and told them to write it down. Harvey said he asked some of his son’s classmates and got a similar answer.
    Over the last several weeks, Glenn has exposed education systems like CSCOPE and Common Core that are funded and supported by leftists in Washington and beyond and are slowly taking over our nation’s schools. Needless to say, he plenty to say about this story on radio this morning.


    “Florida, I don’t know how you’re doing it. I don’t know how you’re doing it,” Glenn said. “Can you imagine your child coming homing with that? If that’s not indoctrination, tell me what is indoctrination. After a lesson on the Constitution, the teacher has your child write that, ‘I’m willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure’?”


    While initially the spokesperson for Duval County Public Schools, which includes Cedar Hills, told TheBlaze she didn’t know what prompted the teacher to have students write the sentence, the school has since contacted Harvey and told him that the sentence came during a lesson with the lawyer and the teacher had nothing to do with it. Instead, the school is now claiming that Harvey’s son “wrote it on his own free will.”


    “All the children are pointing at the teacher,” Harvey told TheBlaze on Friday. “They [the school] told me that my son wrote that on his own free will — there’s now way he knew how to write that on his own free will. He likes to use some big words to flourish — [but] if he was going to put together a sentence that political I’m sure it would be more jumbled than a nice sentence like that.”


    “Oh, my gosh, I would be outraged,” Glenn said. This is – there’s no way to dismiss this. This is indoctrination. We have shown you the curriculum from CSCOPE. We have shown you the things that are happening with Common Core, but those are all, you know, screen shots from the lesson plans, et cetera, et cetera. They are not something that comes right out of the classroom.”


    “And everybody has always said, ‘Well, no. Well, that’s not really what it is,’” Glenn continued. “When the teachers are saying, you know, preaching against guns and they are saying, ‘You know what? You’ve got a cracker, you know, eaten in the shape of a gun. We’re going to have to call the police,’ everybody says that’s just out‑of‑control, you know, political correctness. No, it’s not. It’s indoctrination.”


    Unfortunately, as of late, stories like this have become all the more common. From children being reprimanded for playing with toy guns to teachers imposing their own views on students, the American education system is broken, and Glenn, a long time supporter of home schooling (his two youngest children are home schooled), had a very frank message this morning.


    “Pull your kids out of school,” Glenn said. “Get them out. I know that is really harsh, and I know that’s really hard and most people can’t do it and they are overwhelmed. Let me tell you something. If you are not doing it because you just can’t afford it and you’re like, ‘I can’t do it,’ please think about it, pray on it, talk. Seriously think about it this weekend and if you can’t, you can’t. And I understand that. And that’s why we’re going to continue to fight against this kind of indoctrination because we have to stand together because you can’t let any child be indoctrinated with this stuff.”


    “If you say, ‘I can’t do it because I don’t know what I teach my kid, I don’t know how to do it,’ believe me you’ll do a better job than the teachers will. Believe me,” he continued. “You have been trained to think that you are not qualified to teach your child. And you know what? I wasn’t qualified to talk about Woodrow Wilson. I wasn’t qualified to talk about the progressive movement. But I did my own homework. You are smart enough to do it. You can… And there’s plenty of groups that will help you along the way.”


    Home schooling might not be a viable option for everyone, but regardless of your situation, joining together to fight against this type of indoctrination and rhetoric in our schools is essential. “Are you willing to roll the dice that this kind of stuff is being done to your kids and you’re going to miss it,” Glenn asked. “Are you willing to roll the dice on that?”


    “It’s not just about politics. It’s not education,” Stu concluded. “It’s about culture.”

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    Time to start hanging teachers.
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    Phaseolus vulgaris ...,

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    from purgatory, the lustful... "open your breast to the truth which follows and know that as soon as the articulations in the brain are perfected in the embryo, the first Mover turns to it, happy...."
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    Well it is 2014. I guess Titor predicted next year we'd be nuked. (I have it in my head that it was 2014 for some reason, but anyway....).

    So, here's something to start us out. This is from 2012. For some reason I can't locate my original files right now - I know they are someplace... anyway, there is a complete list I put together of about 100 "predictions". Some of them are listed in this article below.

    http://www.strangerdimensions.com/20...r-predictions/A Look At John Titor’s Most Popular Predictions

    Posted by: Rob Schwarz in Time Travel February 23, 2012 61 Comments



    John Titor’s story was painted in the dulcet, midnight colors of Coast to Coast AM, driven by a community’s desire to believe, if just for a moment, that time travel was possible.


    Over the years, the mythology became mired, polluted by impostors and opportunists. The story of the story took center stage, outshining what we originally found so compelling.


    But how has John Titor himself, as we knew him then, fared?


    Let’s find out. Let’s look at his most well known predictions, the ones that make your hair stand on end, or cause you to laugh at their outrageousness. In no particular order.


    But remember: We shouldn’t call them “predictions.” They’re statements of “fact” from the point of view of a time traveler.


    Reflections of an individual’s past that were never guaranteed to become our future.
    1. A Devastating Nuclear War


    A World War in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.
    We’ll begin with one of the few Titor predictions we’ve yet to reach, simply by virtue of it still being in the future.
    John Titor allegedly began his journey in 2036. He’d grown up in Florida, and experienced both a domestic conflict and a worldwide nuclear war. Their effects were disastrous, and much of Titor’s story involves his contempt for the people of our time period; he viewed us as sheep who did nothing to prevent the horrors that followed.
    2015 is three years away, and steadily approaching. Is there a scenario brewing that may lead us down this dark path?
    In the context of Titor’s predictions, perhaps not — his other, far-reaching statements, such as those about a coming Civil War in the United States, never happened (“There is a Civil War in the United States that starts in 2005”). But modern tensions today that did not exist in 2000-2001 do give pause.
    These tensions involve the growing conflict with Iran about their nuclear weapons program, and threats that Israel may launch their own unilateral attack on the country very soon (Read: Israelis seem resigned to a strike on Iran)
    The Middle East, already near the breaking point, has experienced violent protests in Syria and Egypt, and an indefinite occupation of the region by the United States. The situation is already bad, but it’s not difficult to imagine it becoming worse. Far worse.
    2. Deception Leading To The Iraq War


    None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?
    This is one of a few John Titor quotes that always jumps out at people.
    It’s true that the Middle East has, in recent history (and naturally before Titor’s posts), experienced anything but peace. But the specificity of Titor’s remarks regarding not only the Iraq War, but the deception about Weapons Of Mass Destruction hits the nail on the head a little too hard to be ignored.
    Titor also made statements like “As far as war goes, I have faith you are quite capable of starting one all by yourself,” and “In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what’s to come, not the cause.” Always implying that a long, drawn out battle was on the horizon.
    Was this nothing more than simple foresight driven by (then-) contemporary views on foreign policy? I suppose thoughts of a renewed conflict in the Middle East were not farfetched, as the war in Iraq has a history that stretches well beyond the events of 9/11.
    However, of all the alleged time travelers who have come and gone, these remarks make John Titor one of a kind.
    3. The 2008 Olympics: Cancelled

    As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004.
    Of course, Titor didn’t always hit the mark.
    The 2008 Olympics, which were ultimately held in Beijing, China, still happened. However, do you remember how close they came to not happening?
    During the lead up to the Olympics, Tibetan protests spread throughout Chinese provinces, with calls for independence and the return of the Dalai Lama. Many wondered if this would interfere with the Olympics, leading to a boycott (Read: Police tighten grip; China says Olympics won’t be disrupted)
    This is, of course, slightly twisting Titor’s words. He mentioned “many conflicts,” most likely implying that civil unrest leading up to the war rendered the Olympics impractical and unwanted.
    But remember: Titor mentioned a slight divergence, anywhere from 1-2.5%, which could make all the difference in the world.
    4. The Hidden Functions of the IBM 5100


    You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100?
    We’ve already talked about Titor’s connections to the IBM 5100. It’s true that, at the time of his posting, the hidden functionality of the IBM 5100 portable computer was unknown to the average consumer. Especially around 2000-2001, the average person wouldn’t have known such an obscure detail.
    On the other hand, Titor’s statements about a “mad cow pandemic” and “breakthroughs in high-energy physics” are somewhat murkier.
    There was mild panic regarding Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, or CJD (the human form of mad cow disease). However, this was quite a few years ago, and nothing I’d call a pandemic.
    The unfortunate thing, however, is that CJD has a potential incubation period of decades, meaning if there was a massive spread of the illness that occurred 10 or even 20 years ago, we still wouldn’t know about it.
    As for “high-energy physics,” new breakthroughs at CERN — which is almost its own character in the John Titor saga — may lead to some extraordinary outcomes. More specifically, Titor said:
    Some very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near future.
    The Higgs Boson. Faster-than-light neutrinos. Whether or not anything comes of this, it’s too early to tell, but the forward march of progress continues. As the LHC ramps up its energy, who knows what we’ll discover.
    5. An Overheating Space Plane


    Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?
    This is another one of Titor’s statements that often raises eyebrows. What’s most curious to me is his use of the phrase “space plane.” If he had been referring to a shuttle, why not say shuttle?
    That said, many view this comment as an allusion to the Columbia space shuttle disaster in 2003, which occurred after a piece of foam struck the shuttle’s left wing during take-off. Upon re-entry, superheated air breached the damaged wing, leading to the ultimate disintegration of the shuttle.
    6. Russia & China

    Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand.”
    China has grown exponentially, while the United States and much of the west has been hit by economic turmoil and civil unrest. I’m not sure we’re at the point of being regarded as unstable, but given the relatively prosperous economic climate of the 1990s, mainstream thought in 2000-2001 would not have predicted this falling house of cards.
    Even our relations with Russia and China are heating up again, thanks to the current situation with Iran. Furthermore, Titor said:
    I believe they [China] are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It should not surprise you if they do that soon.
    Done and done. China put a man in orbit in October 2003, and continues to make strides in what now appears to be a one-country space race. Meanwhile, the NASA budget continues to dwindle.
    7. A Growing Civil Unrest


    They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
    One of the greatest themes of John Titor’s story was the ultimate decline of western civilization, and the increasing number of civil conflicts within the United States leading up to an all-out war in 2005.
    Without diving headfirst into the dark and sordid world of U.S. politics, policies such as the Patriot Act and the NDAA do point in this direction, and the U.S. Government has continued to grow since 9/11. Future legislation like SOPA, PIPA, and the already-signed ACTA slowly chip away at the average citizen’s rights, making way for massive corporations to swoop in and claim, well, everything.
    The years may be off, but I wouldn’t disregard Titor’s statements about civil strife just yet.
    Titor also stated the following:
    The President or ‘leader’ in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.
    Our President in 2005 was George W. Bush, but I can’t help but think of President Obama when Titor alludes to someone trying to be a unifying Lincoln figure.
    Barack Obama seemed like the kind of candidate who wanted to unite America, to bring about change and fix the system. It can be argued that he failed, but it can also be argued that any actual attempt to “fix” our government will ultimately be obstructed, no matter how many promises are made to the common citizen.
    The Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors also come to mind. Riots breaking out around the world and here within our own borders. A poor economy. The increasing role of government in our lives. Perhaps the most telling of John Titor’s statements about civil liberties was this:
    The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.
    8. A Tale Of Many Worlds


    The Many Worlds Theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have in 2036. As you are probably aware, the “big equation” does not need the final solution in order to take advantage of the smaller parts that do work in the real world.
    Verifying the science behind John Titor’s time machine is a bit complicated. A subject for another time, perhaps.
    However, it’s true that Stephen Hawking changed his mind about the nature of black holes and Hawking Radiation not long after Titor showed up.
    In his original faxes to Art Bell, Titor stated:
    Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the world’s first contained singularity engine.
    The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.
    The use of black holes as described by Titor clashed with contemporary understandings of how they work, namely that microsingularities would evaporate before you’d be able to do anything with them.
    However, in 2004, Hawking revised his theory, bringing it in line with Titor’s comments on the nature of Hawking radiation.
    Another interesting statement of Titor’s that jumped out at me:
    It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times.
    This would, unfortunately, coincide with the existence of a low-mass Higgs Boson scenario, and recent findings at CERN seem to indicate that this may (READ: may) be the case. A low-mass Higgs Boson would indicate that, at any moment, the universe “could spontaneously explode.”
    The vision John Titor paints of the multiverse (or, as he refers to it, the “superverse”) is, as I understand it, similar to those fiber optic light spheres (pictured above). Each worldline is a single point that stretches outward infinitely. But some of the lows lines can spontaneously come to an end, independent of the others.
    “Time travel” occurs as a result of traveling between those lines. Thus, no paradoxes, as any time traveler would be entering another universe entirely.
    Titor also makes several references to the Everett-Wheeler model:
    Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct.
    The Everett-Wheeler model is also known as the theory of the Universal Wavefunction. It’s an attempted explanation for the bizarre wave-like behavior of individual particles in the double-slit experiment, stating that every possible outcome of events always happens, each event splitting off into its own universe to avoid wavefunction collapse. Hence, multiple worldlines.
    At the moment, none of this can be verified, but our current path of physics may surprise us, and the Many-worlds interpretation is considered a legitimate possibility.
    9. What Makes Time Travel Possible


    The general public was informed about time travel around 2034.
    And now we’re back to the future. Will we ever gain the ability to travel through time? Titor stated that the mechanisms of time travel would be discovered at CERN with the creation of microsingularities, or miniature black holes.
    Titor’s own machine, which he was trained to operate specifically for his mission in 1975, was created by General Electric, and at the time of his departure from 2036, new variations were being designed, with more accurate clocks and far greater precision.
    But we, here, cannot tell the future.
    The Lessons Of John Titor

    For an alleged time traveler posting on Internet forums in 2000 to early 2001, Titor was surprisingly forward-thinking. Whoever this individual was, he foresaw the renewed conflict in the Middle East, the growing tensions within the U.S., and the arrival of certain scientific breakthroughs.


    Much of this could have been extrapolated from information already available at the time. Past conflicts, economic foresight, scientific speculation. We can often see the world of tomorrow through the lens of today.


    But tomorrow is always changing. Prior to 9/11, I’m not sure how many of us could have envisioned this post-9/11 world. A world which Titor, despite the failure of most of his “predictions,” saw so clearly.


    John Titor is, above all else, an interesting character. His finesse at winning the hearts and minds, or otherwise drawing the ire, of Internet goers lies simply in his statement “I don’t want you to believe me.” Perhaps there’s something to be said for reverse psychology after all.


    Stripping out the time travel, the bias, the doom and gloom, we’re left with a simple tale of caution and morality, in which we’re warned to keep our minds open, our intentions pure, and our eyes focused only on the truth:
    When the day comes for my “prediction” to be realized it will either happen or not. If it does happen, then your ability to judge your environment is crippled by your acceptance of me as a “knower of all things” and gifted with the ability to tell the future. If I am wrong, then everything I have said that might possibly have made you think about your world in a different way is suddenly discredited. I do not want either.
    Although I do have personal reasons for being here and speaking with you, the most I could hope for is that you recognize the possibility of time travel as a reality. You are able to change your worldline for better or worse just as I am.
    It’s strange how, looking at Titor’s predictions and comparing them to our actual reality, a pattern nearly forms.
    If it weren’t for an odd turn here, or a slight shift there, Titor’s world could have become our own.
    And who knows, maybe it will.
    If our worldline were different by just 2.5%, where would we be?
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    Well it is 2014. I guess Titor predicted next year we'd be nuked. (I have it in my head that it was 2014 for some reason, but anyway....).

    So, here's something to start us out. This is from 2012. For some reason I can't locate my original files right now - I know they are someplace... anyway, there is a complete list I put together of about 100 "predictions". Some of them are listed in this article below.

    http://www.strangerdimensions.com/20...r-predictions/A Look At John Titor’s Most Popular Predictions

    Posted by: Rob Schwarz in Time Travel February 23, 2012 61 Comments



    John Titor’s story was painted in the dulcet, midnight colors of Coast to Coast AM, driven by a community’s desire to believe, if just for a moment, that time travel was possible.


    Over the years, the mythology became mired, polluted by impostors and opportunists. The story of the story took center stage, outshining what we originally found so compelling.


    But how has John Titor himself, as we knew him then, fared?


    Let’s find out. Let’s look at his most well known predictions, the ones that make your hair stand on end, or cause you to laugh at their outrageousness. In no particular order.


    But remember: We shouldn’t call them “predictions.” They’re statements of “fact” from the point of view of a time traveler.


    Reflections of an individual’s past that were never guaranteed to become our future.
    1. A Devastating Nuclear War


    A World War in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.
    We’ll begin with one of the few Titor predictions we’ve yet to reach, simply by virtue of it still being in the future.
    John Titor allegedly began his journey in 2036. He’d grown up in Florida, and experienced both a domestic conflict and a worldwide nuclear war. Their effects were disastrous, and much of Titor’s story involves his contempt for the people of our time period; he viewed us as sheep who did nothing to prevent the horrors that followed.
    2015 is three years away, and steadily approaching. Is there a scenario brewing that may lead us down this dark path?
    In the context of Titor’s predictions, perhaps not — his other, far-reaching statements, such as those about a coming Civil War in the United States, never happened (“There is a Civil War in the United States that starts in 2005”). But modern tensions today that did not exist in 2000-2001 do give pause.
    These tensions involve the growing conflict with Iran about their nuclear weapons program, and threats that Israel may launch their own unilateral attack on the country very soon (Read: Israelis seem resigned to a strike on Iran)
    The Middle East, already near the breaking point, has experienced violent protests in Syria and Egypt, and an indefinite occupation of the region by the United States. The situation is already bad, but it’s not difficult to imagine it becoming worse. Far worse.
    2. Deception Leading To The Iraq War


    None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?
    This is one of a few John Titor quotes that always jumps out at people.
    It’s true that the Middle East has, in recent history (and naturally before Titor’s posts), experienced anything but peace. But the specificity of Titor’s remarks regarding not only the Iraq War, but the deception about Weapons Of Mass Destruction hits the nail on the head a little too hard to be ignored.
    Titor also made statements like “As far as war goes, I have faith you are quite capable of starting one all by yourself,” and “In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what’s to come, not the cause.” Always implying that a long, drawn out battle was on the horizon.
    Was this nothing more than simple foresight driven by (then-) contemporary views on foreign policy? I suppose thoughts of a renewed conflict in the Middle East were not farfetched, as the war in Iraq has a history that stretches well beyond the events of 9/11.
    However, of all the alleged time travelers who have come and gone, these remarks make John Titor one of a kind.
    3. The 2008 Olympics: Cancelled

    As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004.
    Of course, Titor didn’t always hit the mark.
    The 2008 Olympics, which were ultimately held in Beijing, China, still happened. However, do you remember how close they came to not happening?
    During the lead up to the Olympics, Tibetan protests spread throughout Chinese provinces, with calls for independence and the return of the Dalai Lama. Many wondered if this would interfere with the Olympics, leading to a boycott (Read: Police tighten grip; China says Olympics won’t be disrupted)
    This is, of course, slightly twisting Titor’s words. He mentioned “many conflicts,” most likely implying that civil unrest leading up to the war rendered the Olympics impractical and unwanted.
    But remember: Titor mentioned a slight divergence, anywhere from 1-2.5%, which could make all the difference in the world.
    4. The Hidden Functions of the IBM 5100


    You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100?
    We’ve already talked about Titor’s connections to the IBM 5100. It’s true that, at the time of his posting, the hidden functionality of the IBM 5100 portable computer was unknown to the average consumer. Especially around 2000-2001, the average person wouldn’t have known such an obscure detail.
    On the other hand, Titor’s statements about a “mad cow pandemic” and “breakthroughs in high-energy physics” are somewhat murkier.
    There was mild panic regarding Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, or CJD (the human form of mad cow disease). However, this was quite a few years ago, and nothing I’d call a pandemic.
    The unfortunate thing, however, is that CJD has a potential incubation period of decades, meaning if there was a massive spread of the illness that occurred 10 or even 20 years ago, we still wouldn’t know about it.
    As for “high-energy physics,” new breakthroughs at CERN — which is almost its own character in the John Titor saga — may lead to some extraordinary outcomes. More specifically, Titor said:
    Some very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near future.
    The Higgs Boson. Faster-than-light neutrinos. Whether or not anything comes of this, it’s too early to tell, but the forward march of progress continues. As the LHC ramps up its energy, who knows what we’ll discover.
    5. An Overheating Space Plane


    Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?
    This is another one of Titor’s statements that often raises eyebrows. What’s most curious to me is his use of the phrase “space plane.” If he had been referring to a shuttle, why not say shuttle?
    That said, many view this comment as an allusion to the Columbia space shuttle disaster in 2003, which occurred after a piece of foam struck the shuttle’s left wing during take-off. Upon re-entry, superheated air breached the damaged wing, leading to the ultimate disintegration of the shuttle.
    6. Russia & China

    Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand.”
    China has grown exponentially, while the United States and much of the west has been hit by economic turmoil and civil unrest. I’m not sure we’re at the point of being regarded as unstable, but given the relatively prosperous economic climate of the 1990s, mainstream thought in 2000-2001 would not have predicted this falling house of cards.
    Even our relations with Russia and China are heating up again, thanks to the current situation with Iran. Furthermore, Titor said:
    I believe they [China] are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It should not surprise you if they do that soon.
    Done and done. China put a man in orbit in October 2003, and continues to make strides in what now appears to be a one-country space race. Meanwhile, the NASA budget continues to dwindle.
    7. A Growing Civil Unrest


    They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
    One of the greatest themes of John Titor’s story was the ultimate decline of western civilization, and the increasing number of civil conflicts within the United States leading up to an all-out war in 2005.
    Without diving headfirst into the dark and sordid world of U.S. politics, policies such as the Patriot Act and the NDAA do point in this direction, and the U.S. Government has continued to grow since 9/11. Future legislation like SOPA, PIPA, and the already-signed ACTA slowly chip away at the average citizen’s rights, making way for massive corporations to swoop in and claim, well, everything.
    The years may be off, but I wouldn’t disregard Titor’s statements about civil strife just yet.
    Titor also stated the following:
    The President or ‘leader’ in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.
    Our President in 2005 was George W. Bush, but I can’t help but think of President Obama when Titor alludes to someone trying to be a unifying Lincoln figure.
    Barack Obama seemed like the kind of candidate who wanted to unite America, to bring about change and fix the system. It can be argued that he failed, but it can also be argued that any actual attempt to “fix” our government will ultimately be obstructed, no matter how many promises are made to the common citizen.
    The Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors also come to mind. Riots breaking out around the world and here within our own borders. A poor economy. The increasing role of government in our lives. Perhaps the most telling of John Titor’s statements about civil liberties was this:
    The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.
    8. A Tale Of Many Worlds


    The Many Worlds Theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have in 2036. As you are probably aware, the “big equation” does not need the final solution in order to take advantage of the smaller parts that do work in the real world.
    Verifying the science behind John Titor’s time machine is a bit complicated. A subject for another time, perhaps.
    However, it’s true that Stephen Hawking changed his mind about the nature of black holes and Hawking Radiation not long after Titor showed up.
    In his original faxes to Art Bell, Titor stated:
    Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the world’s first contained singularity engine.
    The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.
    The use of black holes as described by Titor clashed with contemporary understandings of how they work, namely that microsingularities would evaporate before you’d be able to do anything with them.
    However, in 2004, Hawking revised his theory, bringing it in line with Titor’s comments on the nature of Hawking radiation.
    Another interesting statement of Titor’s that jumped out at me:
    It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times.
    This would, unfortunately, coincide with the existence of a low-mass Higgs Boson scenario, and recent findings at CERN seem to indicate that this may (READ: may) be the case. A low-mass Higgs Boson would indicate that, at any moment, the universe “could spontaneously explode.”
    The vision John Titor paints of the multiverse (or, as he refers to it, the “superverse”) is, as I understand it, similar to those fiber optic light spheres (pictured above). Each worldline is a single point that stretches outward infinitely. But some of the lows lines can spontaneously come to an end, independent of the others.
    “Time travel” occurs as a result of traveling between those lines. Thus, no paradoxes, as any time traveler would be entering another universe entirely.
    Titor also makes several references to the Everett-Wheeler model:
    Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct.
    The Everett-Wheeler model is also known as the theory of the Universal Wavefunction. It’s an attempted explanation for the bizarre wave-like behavior of individual particles in the double-slit experiment, stating that every possible outcome of events always happens, each event splitting off into its own universe to avoid wavefunction collapse. Hence, multiple worldlines.
    At the moment, none of this can be verified, but our current path of physics may surprise us, and the Many-worlds interpretation is considered a legitimate possibility.
    9. What Makes Time Travel Possible


    The general public was informed about time travel around 2034.
    And now we’re back to the future. Will we ever gain the ability to travel through time? Titor stated that the mechanisms of time travel would be discovered at CERN with the creation of microsingularities, or miniature black holes.
    Titor’s own machine, which he was trained to operate specifically for his mission in 1975, was created by General Electric, and at the time of his departure from 2036, new variations were being designed, with more accurate clocks and far greater precision.
    But we, here, cannot tell the future.
    The Lessons Of John Titor

    For an alleged time traveler posting on Internet forums in 2000 to early 2001, Titor was surprisingly forward-thinking. Whoever this individual was, he foresaw the renewed conflict in the Middle East, the growing tensions within the U.S., and the arrival of certain scientific breakthroughs.


    Much of this could have been extrapolated from information already available at the time. Past conflicts, economic foresight, scientific speculation. We can often see the world of tomorrow through the lens of today.


    But tomorrow is always changing. Prior to 9/11, I’m not sure how many of us could have envisioned this post-9/11 world. A world which Titor, despite the failure of most of his “predictions,” saw so clearly.


    John Titor is, above all else, an interesting character. His finesse at winning the hearts and minds, or otherwise drawing the ire, of Internet goers lies simply in his statement “I don’t want you to believe me.” Perhaps there’s something to be said for reverse psychology after all.


    Stripping out the time travel, the bias, the doom and gloom, we’re left with a simple tale of caution and morality, in which we’re warned to keep our minds open, our intentions pure, and our eyes focused only on the truth:
    When the day comes for my “prediction” to be realized it will either happen or not. If it does happen, then your ability to judge your environment is crippled by your acceptance of me as a “knower of all things” and gifted with the ability to tell the future. If I am wrong, then everything I have said that might possibly have made you think about your world in a different way is suddenly discredited. I do not want either.
    Although I do have personal reasons for being here and speaking with you, the most I could hope for is that you recognize the possibility of time travel as a reality. You are able to change your worldline for better or worse just as I am.
    It’s strange how, looking at Titor’s predictions and comparing them to our actual reality, a pattern nearly forms.
    If it weren’t for an odd turn here, or a slight shift there, Titor’s world could have become our own.
    And who knows, maybe it will.
    If our worldline were different by just 2.5%, where would we be?
    Images courtesy U.S. Army, NASA, David Shankbone, studebaker2008, CERN Photolab, and Marcin Wichary

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    Ok, I found the reference for the date...

    You have said you will not participate in helping anyone avoid 'death by probability'. Yet many things you have said could have caused an individual to do or not do something that will now result dying, or escaping death. It would help if you could give an example. If you are referring to the conflict and war in your future, I'm not sure I'm specific enough to help any individuals avoid anything. Suggesting there is a war coming is a bit different than saying avoid Washington DC at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2015.
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    Ok, found that on one of the conspiracy web sites, it LOOKS like the set of questions Pamela Moore put to him, but my memory of the exact order of events has faded and I'm no longer sure because so many people claim to have the "original" stuff... when we all know that Anomalies had it and before that the Art Bell Post-to-Post site.
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    This, folks, is where we are at today.

    http://windsoftime.us/2015/03/12/joh...ler-from-2036/
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