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    House Defeats a Farm Bill With Big Food Stamp Cuts

    By RON NIXON

    Published: June 20, 2013

    WASHINGTON — Opposition by Democrats to huge cuts in the food stamp program helped lead to the defeat of the House farm bill on Thursday, raising questions about financing for the nation’s farm and nutrition programs this year.

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    The vote, which was 234 to 195 to defeat it, came a year after House leaders refused to bring the five-year, $940 billion measure to the floor because conservative lawmakers who wanted deeper cuts in the food stamp program would not support it.


    The failure to pass the bill was a stinging defeat for Representative Frank D. Lucas, Republican of Oklahoma and the chairman of the House Agriculture Committee, who had guided the legislation.


    “If it doesn’t pass, I don’t know if it’s going to come up again in this Congress,” Mr. Lucas told lawmakers before the vote.


    House members who voted for the bill, including Speaker John A. Boehner, had hoped to begin work on a compromise with their Senate counterparts, who passed their version of the bill last month.


    The Obama administration had said it could not accept the House bill, saying it cut too deeply into the food stamp program and did not significantly overhaul crop insurance and other farm subsidies.


    The House bill would have cut projected spending in farm and nutrition programs by nearly $40 billion over the next 10 years. Just over half, $20.5 billion, would have come from cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps. The House bill, like the Senate’s version, would have eliminated $5 billion a year in direct payments to farmers, which are made annually whether or not they grow crops.


    Billions of dollars saved by eliminating the payments would be directed into a $9 billion crop insurance program. New subsidies would be created for peanut, cotton and rice farmers. Lawmakers left intact the sugar program, keeping price supports and restrictions on imports.


    The nearly $75 billion-a-year food stamp program was the focus of most of the farm bill debate. Democrats, led by Representative Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, said the cuts were too deep, and they introduced an amendment that would restore the money by cutting crop insurance. Lawmakers rejected the amendment by 234 to 188.


    “The price of a farm bill should not be making more people hungry in America,” Mr. McGovern said.
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    It's BACKKKKK! With changes....

    House Republicans drop food stamps from new Farm Bill

    By Ed O'Keefe, Published: July 11 at 12:03 pmE-mail the writer

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    House Republicans have dropped funding for food stamps from a new version of the Farm Bill expected to be voted on Thursday, earning a strong rebuke from the White House and congressional Democrats who plan to oppose the measure.
    (AP Photo/Ed Andrieski, File)

    It is unclear whether sufficient Republican support exists for the new bill that is scheduled for a vote by early afternoon Thursday. Two key conservative groups that hold sway over dozens of House Republicans said they were opposed to the bill, because it fails to slash the federal deficit.
    The legislation would make changes to federal agricultural policy and conservation programs and includes language ending direct subsidy payments to farmers, but says nothing about funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or food stamps, which historically constitutes about 80 percent of the funding in a Farm Bill.
    Several Democratic lawmakers rose in opposition to the plan early Thursday as debate began, with several of them repeatedly saying that the new bill “hurts the children of America” or “increases hunger in America.”
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    Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.) mockingly made a parliamentary inquiry, saying he had just obtained a copy of the 600-page bill.
    “It appears to have no nutrition title at all, is this a printing error?” Butterfield asked.
    The nutrition title is the portion of the bill that sets food stamp funding.
    Republicans attempted to tamp down the opposition by assuring Democrats that they will hold votes on a separate measure dealing with food stamp funding later in the month.
    Current federal farm and food aid policy expires on Sept. 30 and failure to pass a new bill in time means American farmers will fall back to a 1949 law governing the industry, which could lead to steep price increases on items such as milk.
    Rep. Bob Gibbs (R-Ohio), a member of the House Agriculture Committee, said moving forward Thursday makes sense in order to ensure that negotiations between the House and Senate on a final Farm Bill can begin later this summer.
    “I don’t know if they’ve got 218 votes or not, I have no idea,” Gibbs said, who added later that “the alternative of not getting this into conference and getting this done is bad.”
    The bill’s fate may rest with conservatives like Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who said he voted last month for a Farm Bill that included food stamp funding because it sufficiently slashed spending and addressed food aid and farm policy. Chaffetz said he and most of his colleagues had not yet been briefed on details of the new legislation.
    “If it was just the same bill split into two, of course I’d vote for that, but if they’ve made changes that are substantive? Yikes,” he said. “Even though I whipped yes, I might vote no. I’ve got to go figure that out.”
    GRAPHIC: Americans on food stamps

    House Republican leaders rushed late Wednesday to set up Thursday’s vote after securing sufficient support among rank-and-file members. The decision comes as many rural-state Republicans are facing pressure from constituents for so far failing to approve the legislation.
    The White House said late Wednesday that President Obama would veto any Farm Bill that fails to comprehensively address federal farm and food aid policy. In a statement, White House officials said they had insufficient time to review the bill.
    “It is apparent, though, that the bill does not contain sufficient commodity and crop insurance reforms and does not invest in renewable energy, an important source of jobs and economic growth in rural communities across the country,” the statement said. “Legislation as important as a Farm Bill should be constructed in a comprehensive approach that helps strengthen all aspects of the Nation.”
    House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) blasted Republicans for violating their own rules on waiting three days before voting on major legislation.
    Hoyer called the new Farm Bill “a bill to nowhere,” and said that Senate Democrats would reject the House version even if it passes. “This dead-on-arrival messaging bill only seeks to accomplish one objective: to make it appear that Republicans are moving forward with important legislation even while they continue to struggle at governing,” Hoyer said.
    Conservative organizations closely aligned with dozens of House Republicans also cast doubt on the new bill.
    The Club for Growth said that while it supports splitting up farm and food policy, the new farm-only bill “is still loaded down with market-distorting giveaways to special interests with no path established to remove the government’s involvement in the agriculture industry.” The group also faulted House GOP leaders for proceeding with what it calls a “rope-a-dope exercise” that likely will result in House and Senate negotiators restoring commodity and food stamp funding opposed by Republicans.
    Heritage Action said the new bill would wrongly make permanent several programs, including aid to sugar producers that would drive up costs for customers and taxpayers.
    Conservative GOP lawmakers joined with Democrats last month to defeat a broad, five-year farm bill, in the latest rebuke to House GOP leaders, who have struggled to control the chamber to pass major legislation.
    Conservatives objected to the bill’s spending levels, while Democrats opposed a $20.5 billion cut to food stamps.
    The surprise defeat signaled the difficulty congressional leaders face in the coming months in passing legislation on the budget and immigration that is expected to be debated this month and in the fall.
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    or perhaps it wasn't fried.

    Looks like it's back

    You Won’t Believe What’s in the $1 Trillion Farm Bill Disaster

    Posted by gulfdogs on January 28, 2014
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    The farm bill isn’t getting the attention it deserves. Congress is likely very aware of this fact and is pouncing on a chance to get its farm bill through. Tonight’s State of the Union address further provides cover for what Congress is about to do to the American public this week. The House is expected to vote tomorrow on this nearly $1 trillion farm bill, which is projected to cost even more than the Obama stimulus bill.
    The House and Senate farm bill negotiators have come up with a bill that is filled with central planning policies, handouts to special interests, and wasteful spending. The winners are the special interests. The losers are everybody else, including taxpayers, the poor, consumers, and virtually any other group you can think of. >>> http://blog.heritage.org/2014/01/28/...bill-disaster/
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    The dead has arisen. 5 year Farm Bill passes Congress.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...#ixzz2sO10srWg


    Congress approves 5-year farm bill



    The long-tortured farm bill cleared Congress on Tuesday, ending a two-year struggle that split the old farm-food coalition as never before and dramatized the growing isolation of agriculture and rural America in an ever more urban House.


    Written off as dead just months ago, the giant five-year measure won final approval from the Senate on a 68-32 roll call and goes next to President Barack Obama for his signature.


    “Today’s action will allow the proud men and women who feed millions around the world to invest confidently in the future,” Vilsack said in a statement released after the Senate vote. “This legislation is important to the entire nation.”


    Obama himself sounded the same note, saying the bill will add “certainty” for farmers and ranchers and includes “a variety of commonsense reforms that my Administration has consistently called for.” A signing ceremony is being planned for Friday at Michigan State University.


    “As with any compromise, the Farm Bill isn’t perfect — but on the whole, it will make a positive difference not only for the rural economies that grow America’s food, but for our nation,” the president said.


    Indeed, whether the subject is cows, cotton or corn, the bill represents a landmark rewrite of commodity programs coupled with what proved in the end to be bipartisan reforms in the food stamp program.


    Factoring in cuts already begun during the two-year debate, the bill should generate about $23 billion in 10-year savings, but all such estimates are vulnerable to wide swings given the drop in corn prices since last summer.


    Just hours before the Senate vote, in fact, the Congressional Budget Office released new projections that show a big spike from what CBO had previously predicted for Commodity Credit Corp. outlays over the coming years.


    The new CCC estimates are not based on the commodity title in the new farm bill, which will be fully scored by CBO as part of its March baseline. But the added costs are substantial and come from like-minded farm programs that are a harbinger of the volatility ahead.


    By comparison, the farm bill’s savings from food stamps, about $8 billion or a third of the package, are more consistent.


    The single biggest savings comes from cracking down on what many see as an abusive scheme employed by about 16 states that distribute token amounts of low-income fuel assistance to households to help them gain higher benefits.


    As little as $1 per year in fuel aid can be used to claim a higher utility deduction and leverage far more in monthly food stamp benefits, especially in high-cost cities like New York. By insisting that the fuel aid be no less than $20, the bill hopes to discourage this practice enough to generate $8.55 billion in 10-year savings.


    A portion of these savings is then plowed back into emergency food programs as well as employment and training services. This includes $250 million for a set of pilot programs to test new ideas to move unemployed beneficiaries back into the workforce.



    Tuesday’s Senate roll call followed a 251-166 farm bill vote in the House on Jan. 29. And the rapid action completes a trifecta of sorts for Congress, anxious to put behind it the embarrassment of last October’s government shutdown.


    First was the budget agreement in December, followed by a $1.1 trillion omnibus appropriations bill in January and now the farm bill — all in the space of just two months.


    In the Senate, all three deals were handled by female committee chairs — a matter of some pride for the Democratic Caucus. And in a bit of comic relief, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, a naysayer throughout, jumped on board the farm bill at the end because of a hemp provision important to Kentucky farmers — and his reelection — back home.


    “We like hemp,” said a smiling aide.




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    Not mentioned in the Farm Bill...


    Congress Seeks To Jack Up Fees On Home Heating Oil In Midst Of Frigid Winter

    February 2, 2014

    Congress‘ mammoth farm bill restores the imposition of an extra fee on home heating oil, hitting consumers in cold-weather states just as utility costs are spiking.

    The fee — two-tenths of a cent on every gallon sold — was tacked on to the end of the 959-page bill, which is winding its way through Capitol Hill. The fee would last for nearly 20 years and would siphon the money to develop equipment that is cheaper, more efficient and safer, and to encourage consumers to update their equipment.

    It’s just one of dozens of provisions tucked into the farm bill, which cleared the House on a bipartisan 251-166 vote last week and faces a key filibuster test in the Senate on Monday. It is expected to survive and face final passage Tuesday before heading to President Obama’s desk.

    Taxpayer groups say the bill could increase spending over the previous version and that it’s crammed with favors for individual lawmakers, such as rules legalizing industrial hemp.

    The heating oil fee was backed by Northeast lawmakers who said it would fund important research to benefit consumers.

    “The National Oilheat Research Alliance (NORA) has long benefitted low- and middle-class families and small businesses throughout the Northeast and other cold weather states,” Rep. Leonard Lance, New Jersey Republican, said in a statement. “The program improves energy efficiency and lowers heating bills at no cost to the U.S. taxpayer.”

    The bill prohibits oil companies from passing the fee on to consumers, but taxpayer advocates said that’s a sham and that the money has to come from consumers.

    “To say they can’t pass on the cost, are they supposed to take it out of their kid’s college fund?” said Diane Katz, research fellow in regulatory policy at the Heritage Foundation. “It’s kind of silly because of course the costs are going to get passed on. Money is fungible. There’s no way it’s not going to get passed on to the consumer.”

    Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, agreed that it’s unrealistic to think the fee won’t be passed on to consumers and said violations would be impossible to prove.

    “It just makes people feel good to say that, but doesn’t really translate in reality to how it will actually happen for consumers,” he said.

    Congress established the National Oilheat Research Alliance in 2000 to try to expand the oil heat market. Almost 70 percent of oil heat users live in the Northeast, a Government Accountability Office report found, because a lack of infrastructure in the region restricts access to natural gas. This winter, Massachusetts residents are projected to spend about $3,400 on more than 900 gallons of heating fuel per household, according to Massachusetts Energy and Environmental Affairs. This means the fee could add about $1.80 to fuel costs for a house over the winter.

    But the oil heat fee expired in 2010, and the industry says it needs the government to reimpose it to get the program up and running again.

    “Technician training has degraded over time and we haven’t been as responsible developing new fuels as we should have been,” said John Huber, president of the National Oilheat Research Alliance. “All technical training stopped in 2010, and we haven’t been upgrading and training on new technologies that have been entering the industry.”

    Because the program expired, work stopped on developing environmentally friendly biofuels, a priority for Northeasterners who put a premium on green energy, he said.

    He disputed the claim that consumers would end up facing price hikes, saying a number of factors go into that calculation and that the law prohibits the fee from being passed on to customers.

    “When they price, they’re looking at market competition, looking at their margins, looking at what services they provide to the customer, how far away the customer is,” he said. “Adding two-tenths of a cent, they can’t do under the law.”

    Mr. Ellis said other businesses work to improve their products without government mandates.

    “If companies and the industry want to innovate, that’s great,” he said. “But we shouldn’t be in the business as the federal government of propping it up and creating this overall system.”

    The National Oilheat Research Alliance has faced other problems. A 2010 Government Accountability Office audit found it was spending the majority of its money on marketing and was neglecting research.

    The farm bill requires that a majority of funding go to research and development of more efficient oil heat technology and other environmentally friendly fuel initiatives.

    Lawmakers in the House and Senate sponsored bills to try to renew the National Oilheat Research Alliance, but the legislation got bottled up in committee. The farm bill offered them a chance to short-circuit the usual legislative process and avoid the kind of scrutiny that accompanies a stand-alone bill.

    Indeed, it was not raised at all during the debate on the House floor last week.

    Rep. Henry A. Waxman of California, the ranking Democrat on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, did not want the program to be slipped into the massive bill without more scrutiny. He said the GAO audit raised questions that needed answers.

    “In the past, NORA has used the funds it has collected primarily to run public relations campaigns,” he wrote in a Jan. 23 letter to the committee’s chairman. “The committee should carefully examine the value of these efforts before subjecting the consumers of heating oil to additional costs.”

    Ms. Katz said hiding a piece of legislation in the farm bill that could not pass on its own is not the right way to move legislation and could end up hurting the oil heat provision by tying the Energy Department initiative to future farm bills that could face political trouble.

    “They couldn’t get this passed since 2010, so they reverted to sort of hiding it in the farm bill. There’s already enough junk in the farm bill that shouldn’t be in there. This just adds to that,” she said.


    I guess this is just more energy prices necessarily skyrocketing...

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