Tens of thousands of protesters have marched in Hong Kong through typhoon rains in support of universal suffrage. The march marks the 16th anniversary of the city’s return to mainland China's rule.
Drenched by rains from Tropical Storm Rumbia, protesters marched in Hong Kong Monday to demand that China live up to its promise to allow fully democratic elections in the semi-autonomous territory by 2017.
There has been mounting discontent directed at China's communist government amid concerns that Beijing may somehow try to rig the poll to screen out opposition candidates.
Protesters marched and chanted carrying British colonial Hong Kong flags and pro-democracy banners. The procession, which is organized annually by the Civil Human Rights Front, has come on the heels of a survey published by Hong Kong University, which found that only 33 percent of Hong Kong residents took pride in being a Chinese national - the lowest level since 1998.
The former British colony returned to Chinese rule on July 1, 1997, and promised universal suffrage as an "ultimate aim." If the election goes through, Hong Kong will be the first place on Chinese soil to have fully democratic elections.
Hong Kong leader Leung Chun-ying, who was appointed last July, has also come under harsh criticism as many say he is guilty of kowtowing to Beijing. He is charged with overseeing the transition to universal suffrage, however many say little or no progress has been made.
"The main goal of the rally is to push through for genuine democracy and to ask for Leung Chun-ying to step down," Jackie Hung of the Civil Human Rights Front told the AFP news agency.
However, Beijing has countered that the ability of Hong Kong residents to protest proves that the freedoms guaranteed under the handover agreement were being honored.
"This year, with so many people going on the streets to protest, shows that under the 'one country two systems', Hong Kong has a lot of freedom and rights," the head of Beijing's Liaison Office in Hong Kong, Zhang Xiaoming, told reporters.
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Listen, we're watching the entire world self-immolate. The Middle East, I can see.
I personally just don't "get it". There are some where around 35-40 wars on-going right now. MOST of those are in the Middle East. Many are in Africa. Anyone seeing a real pattern here?
Asia has a couple of skirmishes I think, like China and Nepal or something.
America is very nearly ready to explode. It will be civilian against civilian (Right vs Left), Civilian vs Government (Right Wing, Freedom based civies fighting govie troops), American Citizens against Aliens, against terrorists and against anyone else who wants a piece of the action. If it happens millions will die in America. No one will win. It will be over in weeks instead of years. The world will rejoice.
I find it funny this is happening now in the East. The West's day is coming.
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Tens of thousands of people in Hong Kong took to the streets in protest on Monday, pressing for promised democratic reforms. Photograph: Vincent Yu/AP
Tens of thousands of Hong Kong residents endured torrential rain on Monday to push for promised democratic reforms and protest against the government. The annual 1 July march marks the anniversary of the territory's handover from Britain to China 16 years ago. But this year's protest was fuelled by anger at the unpopular Beijing-backed chief executive and concerns ranging from growing inequality to the influence of mainland Chinese in the territory.
One group carried a large banner reading "Chinese colonists, get out!" while others chanted: "One person, one foot! Kick Leung Chun-ying out!"
Organisers had hoped for one of the biggest turnouts since 2003, when half a million protesters surged onto the streets amid fury over proposed national security legislation. Supporters complained that pro-establishment groups tried to lure potential marchers away with a cheap concert and shopping discounts, but heavy rain was probably the biggest deterrent. Police said 33,500 had set out from the starting point, Victoria Park, while organisers have yet to release an estimate.
Under the "one country, two systems" framework, Hong Kong is a part of China but enjoys far greater freedoms. Beijing has promised universal suffrage for elections for the chief executive in 2017 and for the legislature by 2020. But most are suspicious of these pledges.
"The message of today's impressive turnout despite the rainy weather is clear: more Hong Kong people are demanding a faster pace and larger scope of democratic reform from the Hong Kong government, which is, however, politically sandwiched between the democrats and the central government in Beijing," said Sonny Lo, co-director of the centre for governance and citizenship at the Hong Kong Institute of Education.
"Given Beijing's distrust of the people of Hong Kong, who may really elect a chief executive independent of the centre's control, the 2017 chief executive election reform would likely be piecemeal and characterised by a nominating committee screening out 'politically unsafe' candidates."
That will not satisfy democrats, he pointed out – which would lead to the inevitable push towards the Occupy Central movement, a campaign of non-violent civil disobedience proposed for next summer if there is no real movement towards universal suffrage.
"The central government has to come up with a timetable and proposal to say how Hong Kong people can truly have one person, one vote instead of it being decided by 1,200 members of the ruling class," said Ed Chin, one of Occupy Central's organisers.
Earlier this year, a senior mainland official increased concerns by saying China would not accept a leader who confronted Beijing. On Monday, Leung said he would launch a consultation on universal suffrage "at an appropriate juncture", as he addressed a reception to celebrate the handover's anniversary.
Leung has been hit by scandals since taking power a year ago, ranging from illegal building work at his mansion to last week's fraud conviction for his first development secretary, Mak Chai-kwong.
But marcher KC Wong, who was pushing a giant red monster he had constructed, with flashing eyes and the yellow stars of the Chinese flag, said: "It's not only CY Leung that people are unhappy with: he is a puppet; it is who is behind the puppet."
The 43-year-old artist said his creation was inspired by a Japanese manga series about humans who live in walled cities to protect themselves from gigantic creatures who devour them. "Our city walls are falling one by one," he said. "You can see that in social, political and economic aspects Hong Kong is falling down – and, of course, people have asked for universal suffrage but been constantly denied."
He also complained that mainland influences were encouraging corruption and that an influx of mainland tourists was eroding local culture.
Nerissa Tsui, 21, said she was marching for the first time because issues such as housing had become so pressing. "People are living in [single] rooms, even cages, and the government says there is wealth and growth," she said.
Chau Kam-kwan and her husband Lee Siu-cheung, both retired, said they were worried about "brainwashing education" – the attempt to introduce national education courses, shelved last year after huge protests. . "We know a lot about our country, China, and love it. But we don't love this party," said Chau.
The Civil Human Rights Front, a coalition of groups which organised the demonstration, has yet to release an estimate of the number of marchers. Organisers said 400,000 people attended last year, while police put the figure at 63,000.
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A Chinese state-run newspaper warned Hong Kong residents that their semi-autonomous territory is in line to become the next Ukraine or [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Thailand[/COLOR][/COLOR] if pro-democracy protests, fuelled by an anti-Beijing sentiment, will continue.
Beijing’s Global Times, a nationalist newspaper renowned for its hawkish editorials, wrote that hundreds of activists who staged a sit-in in support of democratic reform in Hong Kong are a threat to the rule of law.
“Hong Kong might have ushered into a period of continued social and political unrest,” the paper wrote.
The reference to Thailand might be particularly worrisome to Hong Kong’s pro-democracy activists, as the military there seized [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]power[/COLOR][/COLOR] in coup, after months of rival protests that deadlocked government action.
About 8,000 Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops are stationed in the special administrative region, mostly in the large waterfront barracks yards from where pro-democracy protests are taking place on Hong Kong [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]island[/COLOR][/COLOR]. Unlike their mainland counterparts, Hong Kong residents enjoy a series of freedoms, including free speech and the right to protest and have their own government.
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Pro-democracy activists, however, have always criticised the election of their city leader, known as the chief executive, by an elite pro-Beijing committee.
The Global Times’ editorial came after hundreds of Hong Kongers blocked part of the city’s financial district in a protest calling for electoral reforms that meet international standards, allowing opposition candidates to stand for election.
Turnout was boosted by a policy document released by China’s cabinet, which claimed that Hong Kong’s autonomy by grace of Beijing’s authorisation and the city leader must be patriotic to China.
“In Hong Kong, you have the system from the British and you cannot suddenly ask Hong Kong to change suddenly to what China does. If you do so, Hong Kong people cannot survive,” Gary Law, a 19-year-old demonstrator said.
Despite Law and fellow protesters’ appeals, Beijing issued a statement urging Hong Kongers to “undo the knots in their minds and unite with mainlanders to chase their great China dream”.
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Hong Kong: Moods turn festive as thousands of pro-democracy protesters light up Hong Kong streets
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Good evening and welcome to the SCMP’s live coverage of the Hong Kong Occupy Central protests. Tens of thousands of people are now occupying streets across the city, demanding democratic reforms from Beijing. Police have so far today kept a low profile, after their tear gas and pepper spray use yesterday. Stay tuned for all the breaking news throughout the night. Watch: protesters sing and wave their phones in unison 10.50pm Despite the crowds around the war memorial in Central, not one person is standing or sitting on the grass. There’s a new cardboard sign over the usual sign telling people not to go on the grass. 10.40pm The crowd outside police headquarters on Arsenal Street showed no signs of diminishing. They are occupy the flyover connecting Gloucester Road 10.35pm People near Sogo in Causeway Bay are shouting: “Leung Chun-ying resign, 689, resign!”.
A student leader asks the crowd: “Isn’t it clear what the public opinion is?” “Yes!” comes the thundering answer.
Hong Kong second night of pro-democracy protests, September 29-30, 2014. 10.20pm Three British financiers have won over the crowds in Admiralty grilling sausages and corn on a portable barbecue.
One of the Brits, Danel Shepherd, told local media that he’s been living in the city for 10 years and wanted to come and support the protesters with food, along with two of his colleagues. All three work in the IFC. Another supporter also brought demonstrators a huge vat of casserole.
This marks a difference in fare for the protesters, many of whom have been subsisting on chocolate bars and bananas donated by supporters.
10.10pm In front of Sogo department store in Causeway Bay, a student leader warns protesters that staying overnight is unlawful and that they might get arrested. He is giving instructions and the number of lawyers to whom students should call in case they are detained. 10.05pm Protesters start filling in Tim Mei Avenue – once blocked by police – again as Harcourt Road is fully packed.
Hong Kong second night of pro-democracy protests. People gather to cook and eat together. 10.00pm Schools and colleges on Hong Kong island will remain closed tomorrow, the government said this evening.
“Classes of all kindergartens, primary schools, secondary schools and special schools in the Wan Chai, Central and Western districts” will be suspended on September 30, the Education Bureau said in a statement.
“For students studying in other districts but cannot go to schools due to traffic problems, schools should exercise flexibility when handling students’ lateness or absence,” it continued. The government encouraged parents to “keep their children home and not allow them to participate in any assemblies or activities that might be unlawful.”
9.55pm Mong Kok is the smallest of the protest areas around the city, but demonstrators are no less determined and Hong Kong’s chief executive is proving a popular target. “CY Leung step down, we want genuine universal suffrage,” read one banner. Protesters also took over a bus, changing its number to 689, the amount of votes cast for Leung in the 2012 chief executive election and listing its destination as “hell”.
Hong Kong, second night of protests, September 29-30, 2014. Group singing is now a common activity during protests. Here in Mong Kok, people are singing and waving their phones 9.30pm Mong Kong appears to be getting more congested than the shopping district has ever been – people who arrive at the scene have to move toward Prince Edward inch by inch in order to find a seat. No police officer is seen around the rally site so far.
People wave their phones with the torchlights on, creating a sea of light at the junction of Nathan Road and Argyle Street.
A group of Christians carry a big white cross on the street as they sing and pray for the future of Hong Kong.
More mini vans arrive to join some 60 cars which were there blocking off five lanes on Argyle Street – but they open one lane for the traffic to flow. Some of the drivers say they have parked in the middle of the street since early this morning, and they haven’t got a parking ticket from the police. 9.30pm Music now plays in Causeway Bay. The mood is relaxed, while supplies continue to pour in. Spontaneous speeches are happening at every corner. A protester grabbed the microphone, saying this is a long-term fight, and that CY Leung stepping down won’t be enough. “Hong Kong people want democracy,” he says. The four lanes of Yee Wo street are now fully packed. 9.15pm The Admiralty Centre shopping arcade, under MTR management, is closing soon with lights dimmed. The mall manager said the opening hours are “just back to normal” and last night was an exception.
Tonight seems quite peaceful…we stayed opened yesterday because we saw tear gas was used and thought [it would] help crowds to evacuate in case of emergency.” 9.00pm Crowds in Central boo as people carry a giant cutout of CY ‘s face daubed with vampire fangs along Connaught Road Central. Protesters chant for Leung to step down. 9.00pm The bridge linking Admiralty Centre and Government Headquarters which was blocked by police earlier had reopened this afternoon.
Protesters, who are barred access to Tim Mei Avenue, are now allowed to go in, where the mainstage of occupy central locates. 8.55pm Drama unfolds on Queensway in Admiralty where protesters try to save a person who is trying to jump from a bridge. Tweets from a WSJ reporter on the scene showed people holding up what look like tarps or mats underneath the bridge. Fire Services department officers have also inflated an air mattress to break the fall.
I wish the best for Hong Kong. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there, which amounted to most or part of a day on each of my trips into and out of mainland China. I did get to see the sights and visit the night market, take the commuter ferry to/from Kowloon and had dinner at some great places.
It's a great city to visit if you ever get the opportunity. It's pretty expensive though, on par with NYC except not as much communism as NYC.
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BEIJING —The top Chinese military official in Hong Kong has called the violent protests of recent weeks “absolutely intolerable,” in a threatening speech that coincides with the release of an extraordinary video showing Chinese soldiers practicing firing on demonstrators.
Together, the speech and the video served as a thinly veiled warning to the protesters in Hong Kong that China’s patience is growing thin and that it is becoming increasingly willing to use force to quell the demonstrations in the semiautonomous territory.
“We resolutely support the action to maintain Hong Kong’s rule of law by the people who love the nation and the city, and we are determined to protect national sovereignty, security, stability and the prosperity of Hong Kong,” said Maj. Gen. Chen Daoxiang, commander of the People’s Liberation Army Garrison in Hong Kong.
He described the demonstrations, which have continued for eight consecutive weekends, as “absolutely intolerable.” The protests began as demonstrations against an extradition bill but have morphed into wider calls for democracy.
The demonstrations have turned violent at times and have become increasingly disruptive, but protesters have vowed to continue agitating for greater rights and fewer restrictions imposed by Beijing.
Chen made the remarks at a reception in Hong Kong on Wednesday night to mark the 92nd anniversary of the PLA's founding, which fell on Thursday. Carrie Lam, the Beijing-backed chief executive of Hong Kong, attended the event.
“The incidents have seriously threatened the life and safety of Hong Kong citizens and violated the bottom line of ‘one country, two systems,’” Chen said, referring to the principle that Hong Kong is supposed to enjoy a high degree of autonomy from the mainland.
At the same time, the Hong Kong garrison released a provocative video on its Weibo microblogging page that showed soldiers shouting into a loudspeaker in Cantonese, the language spoken in Hong Kong: “At your own peril!”
The soldiers, dressed in combat gear and holding shields, march forward and fire warning shots to disperse a pretend crowd in the streets. Some of the soldiers are carrying red banners that read, “Stop charging, or we use force,” in English and Chinese.
The caption on the video says: “The PLA’s Hong Kong Garrison is an important embodiment of China’s national sovereignty, a vital force of safeguarding the ‘One Country, Two Systems,’ and a cornerstone in maintaining Hong Kong’s prosperity and stability. What we have been doing is preparing for war, training hard on enemy-killing skills, and keep our weapons ready and always ready to attack!”
The foreign minister of Taiwan, Jaushieh Joseph Wu, wrote on Twitter that “Beijing is celebrating Armed Forces Day in a most uncivilized fashion.”
“The people of #HongKong are gifted a video of vile threats! The PLA is supposed to protect the people, not pound them into submission. It's time for authoritarian China to back off!” Wu wrote in remarks that were sure to antagonize Beijing.
The Communist Party views Taiwan as a renegade province that belongs to mainland China. Beijing has been making its unhappiness with the island’s independence-minded government increasingly obvious in recent days, especially as Taiwan and Hong Kong’s protesters appear to band together in the name of democracy.
A Chinese warship collided with a Taiwanese cargo ship in the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday night, Taiwan's Coast Guard Administration reported Thursday. The Taiwanese ship was damaged, but none of its crew were injured, according to local reports.
The PLA’s video also showed tanks conducting maneuvers around the pretend streets, in scenes that left little room for misinterpretation.
Asked how the world should interpret the video, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said that people should “go ask the military.” She added, “We believe the PLA garrison in Hong Kong will continue to be the anchor for stability and prosperity in Hong Kong.”
Separately, about 190,000 armed police officers have been conducting summer drills in Guangdong, the southern Chinese province bordering Hong Kong, in exercises designed to prepare for National Day celebrations to be held in October. The exercises involved armored vehicles and helicopters.
While the drills themselves are not unusual, the location is. Analysts noted that the celebrations will be concentrated in Beijing, in the north of the country, and the soldiers began their drills by swearing to increase security in the days leading to the grand parade in Beijing.
The Chinese army has released a promotional video on Aug. 1, 2019 for its Hong Kong-based troops at a time of uncertainty over whether the military will intervene in the city's summer of protest. (AP Photo/Kin Cheung, File) In Beijing, the ruling Communist Party celebrated the anniversary of its military’s establishment with great fanfare. President Xi Jinping, who is also head of the Communist Party and the Central Military Commission, said that building a well-rounded, world-class army was essential for “realizing the Chinese dream of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.”
“Amid a complicated international situation and responding to the demands of the day for a strong country with a strong military, the PLA must serve the historical mission of the Party,” the PLA Daily newspaper said in an editorial published Thursday.
The party even opened a new television channel dedicated entirely to the PLA. The channel, which replaced one devoted to agriculture, featured military documentaries and interviews with veterans, as well as three episodes of a PLA-themed TV series, “Hot Blood Military Flag.”
These exhortations for a strong military will heighten concerns in the United States about China's military expansion and its increasingly aggressive ambitions in the region.
China is pursuing “a military modernization program that seeks Indo-Pacific regional hegemony in the near-term and displacement of the United States to achieve global preeminence in the future,” the Pentagon wrote in its most recent National Defense Strategy.
“The most far-reaching objective of this defense strategy is to set the military relationship between our two countries on a path of transparency and non-aggression,” it concluded.
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Protesters flooded Hong Kong's airport, one of the busiest in the world, on Monday, forcing authorities to cancel more than 100 flights as demonstrators expressed their anger over the violent police response to protests the night before.
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Hong Kong protesters may be in for an electrifying experience after Chinese riot police were pictured training with 'terrifying giant fork devices' designed to subdue humans and pin them to the ground, according to the Mirror.
While unconfirmed, the 8-foot poles with U-shaped prongs are believed to be able to deliver an electric shock.
The protests, now in their 11th week, have been alternating between the streets, subways, and airports of Hong Kong. While largely peaceful, there is a growing contingent of activists using violence and property destruction to protest the government, resulting in police tear gassings and beatings.
As we have been noting over the last week, satellite images confirmed President Trump's warning that Chinese troops were massing on the Hong Kong border.
And on Thursday, AFP published photos showing more military buildup unfolding in Shenzen. The photos revealed what Reuters reports are hundreds of members of the People's Armed Police, a pro-regime paramilitary organization, carrying out military exercises in a stadium in Shenzen. They could be preparing to carry out demonstrations of its own in Hong Kong.
On Saturday, businesses shuttered their doors and windows in anticipation of more mayhem, however cloudy skies put an early damper on the demonstrations.
Saturday’s mostly peaceful protest suggested that it may - though thousands also attended a pro-police counter-rally, and a clearer picture is not likely to emerge until Sunday when a protest is scheduled that could draw tens of thousands.
“The government has been ignoring us for months. We have to keep demonstrating,” said CS Chan, a maths teacher at a rally of teachers, which police said up to 8,300 people had attended, in heavy rain. Organisers said 22,000 were present.
Demonstrators say they are fighting the erosion of the “one country, two systems” arrangement that has enshrined some autonomy for Hong Kong since China took it back from Britain in 1997. -Reuters
As the skies cleared up, protesters marched through Kowloon, whole pro-police demonstrators rallied in harbourside park across the bay.
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Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation's Marion Smith with the latest on the protests in Hong Kong.
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The news comes amid ongoing protests in the financial hub, which reportedly turned violent last week for the first time since hundreds of thousands of Hong Kong residents took to the streets almost two months ago.
The People's Liberation Army garrison in Hong Kong said Thursday that the Chinese military will make 'new' contributions to maintaining Hong Kong prosperity and stability, Reuters reported, citing the Xinhua news agency.
According to the media report, the Chinese military has now completed a routine troop rotation in Hong Kong, with air, land and maritime forces entering the territory.
Protests in the financial hub began over two months ago after local legislature opened debate on a bill that would allow extradition to mainland China. The city’s chief executive, Carrie Lam, has since declared the bill to be "dead" although according to protesters it has not been officially scrubbed from the record.
Protesters are demanding that the offensive bill officially be withdrawn. Locals also want city authorities to implement universal suffrage and retract criminal charges against the protesters.
Last week, rallies reportedly turned violent, with police firing warning shots for the first time in three months. In mid-August, protesters occupied the Hong Kong International airport. The peaceful sit-in rally escalated into fierce clashes with some Chinese police officers who were reported injured. Beijing condemned what it described as the violent actions of the protesters, calling them "near-terrorist acts".
The United Kingdom and the United States have expressed concern over alleged acts of violence that occurred during major protests in Hong Kong. Beijing has warned against foreign interference in domestic Hong Kong affairs.
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called the situation in Hong Kong amid recent massive protests the most serious since the region's return to China in 1997.
In 1997, Hong Kong became the first administrative region of China under a "one country, two systems" policy. The move ended colonial rule by Britain of the region.
Hong Kong, reportedly enjoying a level of autonomy from China, except for foreign and defense policies, has a legal system that significantly differs from Beijing.
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