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    They're everywhere.... EVERYWHERE! Video at the links below:

    http://www.teaparty.org/obamacare-su...itizens-26896/Obamacare Supporters Sign Petition For “Mandatory Euthanasia” Of Senior Citizens



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    People eagerly sign as activist tells them “We’re going to put them to sleep like you would your dog”


    (Info Wars) – A video clip posted to YouTube by activist Mark Dice shows supporters of Obamacare blindly signing a petition calling for “mandatory euthanasia” under the new health law.


    Dice was able to gather several signatures for the fake petition, telling people in San Diego that they were signing to support putting senior citizens “to sleep” in order to save healthcare costs.


    “All I needed to do was mention the key words ‘Will you help Obama’ and people sign just about anything,” Dice noted.


    In one exchange with a young male passer by, the Social commentator states “This is supporting a euthanasia program to kill senior citizens.” The man responds with the question “if I sign this am I helping to kill old people or helping not to kill them? When Dice explained that “yeah, you’re going to help put them down like you put down your dog,” the man grabbed the petition and said “yeah lets do this,” signing his name with glee and telling Dice “awesome, thank you.”


    Another woman questioned Dice saying “wait, we’re signing to put them to sleep?” before signing anyway when Dice explained it would “keep costs down.”


    Another passer by signed the petition saying “I’m cool with that, I don’t wanna hang around with people like that if there ‘aint no reason.”


    Another young man signed the petition, while Dice told him that old people should be put to sleep as a mandatory measure. The man then bizarrely stated “They got their right to live,” as he walked off.


    While some people cottoned on to the ruse, many others just looked confused and signed immediately when Dice told them he was supporting a provision within Obamacare.


    This is merely the latest example of how mind-numbingly slavish many Americans are to signing away their inherent freedoms, so long as the reason for doing so is pitched with the right rhetoric.


    Previous petitions crafted by Dice and signed by a plethora of Obama supporters called for repealing the Bill Of Rights, banning the First and Second Amendments, as well as throwing gun owners in prison.


    Dice also recently gathered many signatures on a petition to grant Obama complete immunity to commit any crimes he wishes while in office.


    Dice also conducted mock ‘Obama Security Force’ bag searches on the campus of San Diego State University as he trashed the 4th amendment. A number of students complied with having their belongings searched when they were told that carrying a bag was a sign of terrorism.


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    I never thought that the concept portrayed in the Movie Logan's Run, the euthanasia of older people, would ever actually happen. This is freaky and really incredibly unacceptable. Who had the huevos to decide that certain members of our populace have more worth than others? If you play God, you're gonna meet Him and perhaps not like what He has to say about your actions.

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    Remember this is a "joke" on those who signed the petitions. It isn't SUPPOSED to happen, but if enough people are stupid enough to "go along to get along" then you get fascism.

    The reality of the situation is that Sebelius recently said of that little girl who needed lungs, "Some live, some die" and this was coming from a woman who COULD CHANGE THE RULES.

    These great, huge Leviathan agencies have NO congressional oversight, they are given free reign to set their own rules (think BATFE who constantly is changing the rules and the IRS who is constantly changing the rules) and Obamacare will be watched over by IRS.

    So... there WILL be death boards. There will be people "put to sleep" against their will.

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    here's another one....

    The Senate Vote Against Limited Background Checks for Gun Sales Is A Disgrace And A Screw You To Every Dead Child In Newtown And Beyond

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    It’s a depressingly familiar story. Massively funded lobbyist ensures policy decisions go in its favour through the ‘bribery’ of politicians – even when an overwhelming majority of the population cry out for change because the effect of the current policy is literally killing their children. The influence that money buys every day on Capitol Hill and in Westminster is anti-democratic and largely corrupt.

    Listen Up (or click here http://yourlisten.com//Incorrigible/us-senate-disgrace)


    For background the following is from CBS News (Published 17th April 2013)



    In a major setback for gun control advocates, the Senate Wednesday voted down a key amendment to the embattled Democratic gun bill, signaling the increasingly dim prospects of any meaningful legislative action aimed at strengthening America’s gun laws.


    The bipartisan Manchin-Toomey amendment, a background check expansion devised by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., Pat Toomey, R-Pa., and a handful of other lawmakers, earned only 54 votes, falling six votes short of the 60-vote threshold. Vice President Joe Biden, who led the Obama administration’s months-long lobbying effort on behalf of stronger gun laws, presided over the vote.




    The failure of the Manchin-Toomey amendment, which was crafted over weeks of negotiation with the aim of attracting Republican support in both the Senate and, eventually, the House, could serve as the death knell for the larger piece of legislation, though it’s possible Reid will bring new amendments to the floor at a later date.
    A slew of other amendments, including the assault weapons ban, a ban on high-capacity magazine clips, and a GOP-sponsored alternative, also failed to gain the necessary traction.


    In the hours before the vote, Organizing for Action, an advocacy group that works on behalf of the president’s legislative agenda, urged voters to call their senators in support of expanded background checks. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) sent out similar emails, specifically targeting a group of Republican senators who had at one point appeared amenable to the Manchin-Toomey language. Meanwhile, a pro-gun group that had previously backed the ban pulled its support.


    In the end, four Republicans voted in favor the Manchin-Toomey amendment, and four Democrats voted against it, excluding Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who switched his vote from yea to nay for procedural reasons.


    Of the Democrats who voted against the amendment, Sens. Max Baucus, D-Mont., Mark Begich, D-Alaska, Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D., and Mark Pryor, D-Ark. all are up for election next year in 2014 in “red” states, barring Heitkamp, who isn’t up for re-election until 2018.


    But the pattern is not universal: Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., a “red state” Democrat, voted in its favor. Of the Republicans who voted for the measure — Sens. Susan Collins, R-Me., Mark Kirk, R-Ill., John McCain, R-Ariz., and Toomey – only Collins is up for re-election next year. She, Toomey, and Kirk all represent Democratic-leaning states.





    McCain, one of those who broke with the GOP ranks, delivered a vehement defense of the bipartisan amendment in debate over the bill, and disputed the argument, touted by his fellow Republicans, that it would strip Americans of their Second Amendment rights.


    “For over three decades in Congress, I have built as strong a record as anyone in this body in defending the Second Amendment. I have consistently opposed the efforts of anti-gun activists to ban guns and ammunition, staunchly defending the Constitutional rights that Arizonans hold dear,” McCain said, continuing with a list citing his pro-gun credentials. But, he added, “Just as I have long defended the Second Amendment to the Constitution, I have also long believed that it is perfectly reasonable to use available tools to conduct limited background checks, as this amendment prescribes, to help ensure that felons and the mentally-ill do not obtain guns they should not possess.”


    “In my view, such background checks are not overly burdensome or unconstitutional,” McCain said.


    Toomey, R-Pa., who spent weeks working with Manchin on the language of the amendment, made a final push for the amendment just minutes before it was shot down. After touting his “A” grade NRA rating and his commitment to upholding the Second Amendment, Toomey argued that “the Second Amendment does not apply equally to every single American,” and that his measure would just help keep guns out of the hands who have lost their rights to tote guns.


    “The goal was to see if we can find a way to make it a little more difficult for the people who have no legal right to have a gun, for them to obtain one,” he said. “There is absolutely no way that this can be construed as an infringement on our Second Amendment rights.”


    Speaking passionately in remarks after the votes, President Obama lamented the “shameful” events in Congress, and pledged the fight would not end with today’s Senate action.


    “The gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill… [T]hose lies upset an intense minority of gun owners, and that in turn intimidated a lot of senators. And I talked to several of these senators over the past few weeks, and they’re all good people,” Mr. Obama said. “But the fact is most of these senators could not offer any good reason why we wouldn’t want to make it harder for criminals and those with severe mental illnesses to buy a gun. There were no coherent arguments as to why we wouldn’t do this. It came down to politics.”


    “So all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for Washington. But this effort is not over,” said Mr. Obama, who was standing alongside families of the Newtown victims as well as former Rep. Gabby Giffords, who was shot in the head two years ago in the Tucson shootings. “Sooner or later, we’re going to get this right. The memories of these children demand it and so do the American people.”


    In a flurry of statements released after the vote, Democrats and gun safety advocates concurred with the president’s disappointment.


    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the co-founder of Mayors Against Illegal Drugs, issued a scathing statement calling the amendment’s failure a “damning indictment of the stranglehold that special interests have on Washington.”


    “More than 40 U.S. senators would rather turn their backs on the 90 percent of Americans who support comprehensive background checks than buck the increasingly extremist wing of the gun lobby,” Bloomberg wrote. “Democrats – who are so quick to blame Republicans for our broken gun laws – could not stand united. And Republicans – who are so quick to blame Democrats for not being tough enough on crime – handed criminals a huge victory.”


    Giffords, who after the Tucson shootings founded a gun control advocacy group, emailed supporters shaming lawmakers for doing “nothing” to strengthen gun laws in the wake of violence that wounded her and killed others.


    “Over two years ago, when I was shot point-blank in the head, the U.S. Senate chose to do nothing. Four months ago, 20 first-graders lost their lives in a brutal attack on their school, and the U.S. Senate chose to do nothing,” Giffords wrote. “It’s clear to me that if members of the U.S. Senate refuse to change the laws to reduce gun violence, then we need to change the members of the U.S. Senate.”


    Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association (NRA), the pro-gun lobby that has been fighting any legislation that would make gun laws more restrictive, released a statement doubling down on its critique of the Manchin-Toomey amendment.


    “This amendment would have criminalized certain private transfers of firearms between honest citizens, requiring lifelong friends, neighbors and some family members to get federal government permission to exercise a fundamental right or face prosecution,” said Chris Cox, an NRA lobbyist, in the statement. “As we have noted previously, expanding background checks, at gun shows or elsewhere, will not reduce violent crime or keep our kids safe in their schools.”


    Anthony Salvanto contributed to this report
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...bill-in-peril/
    © 2013 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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    Sorry, sonny, I don’t belong to the NRA. I belong to the United States Military. Any fool in America that says “Ban guns” simply is ignorant.
    If you want to “ban guns” start with the gang members that indiscriminately shoot innocent citizens who aren’t even armed.
    Start with the violent criminals who shoot and murder innocent people, by executing them.
    If you want to “ban guns”, start with yourself, your idiot Hollyweird Icons who carry guns themselves.
    If you want to ban guns, start with your OWN GOVERNMENT and disarm them FIRST.
    Then and only then can the rest of us lay down our own weapons and “feel safe”.
    I’m sorry, but you lefty anti-gun people are simply ignorant or brainwashed. You don’t understand or grasp history and you call us names because you can’t honestly hold a debate about this without it going emotional – where you start calling us “baby killers” or whatever.
    Get over yourself.

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