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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Ruck View Post
    So another person that fell through the cracks of a PC mental health system...
    Maybe so... But it's possible that the problem wasn't at all she fell through the cracks, but was pushed into it by the system. You have to remember these people (most of them lately) have all been on one kind of drug or another.

    Or worse, were ON the drugs and quit taking them....


    then there's this - btw Ryan, read this carefully, and think about the FIRST thing I texted back to you yesterday about the police conference, lol:

    What Happened to Miriam Carey?

    Posted on October 4, 2013 by willyloman
    by Scott Creighton


    Sometimes people just go crazy. Sometimes they have good reason to.


    But sometimes something happens which seems crazy, is called “crazy’, but it isn’t.


    The case of Miriam Carey is going to be a hard one to figure out. We may never really know what happened to her. The press is going to do everything they can to make it a case of some lone nut trying to bum-rush the White House for no apparent reason with her kid in the backseat of the Infinity.


    And that may very well be the case.


    But let’s consider the rest of the facts for a moment, the ones that don’t fit neatly into their developing narrative.


    1. Miriam Carey unarmed and killed
    Authorities said the woman was not armed, and although the incident was first reported as a shooting at the Capitol, the only shots were fired by officers.” Washington Post
    This woman was apparently shot to death on the street in broad daylight while unarmed. She got out of the wrecked car, clearly unarmed, and was killed.
    Ms. Carey managed to get out of the car, and was shot by several officers. According to a law enforcement official, she was not armed, and it was not known whether she presented an immediate danger.” New York Times
    That was the second volley of bullets unleashed by authorities during the confrontation. Both times, there were tourists and others on the street, nearby.
    Why would they do that? Why would killing this person be so important that they would risk collateral casualties on a busy street?
    “[the suspect] circled monuments in front of Capitol Hill twice while being pursued. Then she headed toward the Capitol where Capitol Hill police and Secret Service opened fire and shot her,” said Senate Sergeant at Arms Terry Gainer.” ABC News
    So the Secret Service was there when she was shot. No one has released information on who fired the first shot. But, the President’s police were there and shooting. That much is confirmed.


    They put 15 rounds into Miriam’s car according to reports. When the car chase stopped and she got out, Miriam was killed.

    2. The road to the White House

    Much is being made about where she ended up… near the capitol. But she only ended up there after being forced in that direction during the car chase. She drove around a traffic circle for a bit and took off in any direction. I don’t think she had any intention of going to the capitol.

    She had every intention to go to the White House though. Why?

    Her sister said she couldn’t believe Miriam was in D.C. She had no reason to be according to her and she was just home in Connecticut a few days ago.

    “Another (sister), Amy Carey – who is a nurse in Brooklyn – expressed disbelief when told about what happened to her sister by a Washington Post reporter.


    That’s impossible. She works, she holds a job. She wouldn’t be in D.C. She was just in Connecticut two days ago,’ she said. ‘I spoke to her…I don’t know what’s happening. I can’t answer anymore.’ Daily Mail
    She drove 270 miles across three states to get to the White House with an 18 month old child in the backseat.

    Carey’s former boss of eight years, Dr Steven Oken, said in the eight years he knew Miriam she was ‘always happy’ – and not interested in politics. Neighbors told the New York Daily News she was ‘a nice young lady, stable’.


    ‘I would never in a million years believe that she would do something like this,’ he told ABC. ‘It’s the furthest thing from anything I would think she would do, especially with her child in the car. I am floored that it would be her.’ Daily Mail
    3. Searching the home

    Authorities went to this woman’s apartment and started cleaning out everything. They’ve taken boxes and boxes of stuff from her home and forces 50 people out of their homes while they did it. They were decontaminating anyone who walked in and out of the apartment.

    Decontaminating? Why? These aren’t stupid people. If they decide to process the scene and decontaminate people as they leave, they are trying to keep control of something in the apartment and I promise you they aren’t dumb enough to think perhaps there was some anthrax just lying around on the carpet.

    There was something in the apartment they didn’t want getting out. What could that have been?

    4. Why?

    Why would she do that? Why would the Secret Police open fire on an unarmed woman standing beside her car after the chase was over?

    The talk is all about whether or not she suffered from post-partum depression which means the apologist fake alternative sites will undoubtedly be claiming she was on an SSRI.

    5. What if?

    What if Miriam Carey wasn’t bat-shit crazy? What if she had a reason to be going to the White House?

    When I first heard about this story, I couldn’t believe they shot in the first place after she got out of the car. Even a large guy like myself wouldn’t be shot, unarmed with some many officers there to take me down.

    But she was shot. And that simple fact stood out to me. Now I find out she was shot by Secret Service with those little things in their ears getting directions… from the White House.

    Then I wondered what could make her so determined to get into the White House that she would drive and behave that way with the kid in the car.

    And suddenly it occurred to me… the kid isn’t a side-note to the story… the kid is the story.

    She was not married to the father but ‘seemed happy’ about the pregnancy, the former boss said.

    Authorities said the single-mother had a ‘history of mental illness’ but did not elaborate. Daily Mail
    Now, all of this is just speculation of course, but what if the child is the illegitimate daughter of a high ranking public figure in the White House and Miriam wanted something from that figure?

    That would explain why she went there with the child. That would also explain why she would be so determined to get in and see whomever it was she wanted to see.

    That would also explain why the Secret Service would execute her in the street. At that point she was going to be on every news broadcast in the country and even if she were arrested, she would still have a lawyer who could get her story to the public, destroying whomever the father was.

    She was certainly out of control and even though she kept her mouth shut for 18 months, clearly those days and whatever agreement they had was over.

    The story broke in the most public of ways with her running over folks live on CNN. There was no way to put that genie back in the bottle.

    So in that scenario, they had to kill her.

    That would also explain why they were decontaminating everyone leaving the apartment (condo)… they didn’t want one of the kid’s hairs getting out of the building attached to someone’s shoe.

    She wasn’t going to the White House to harm anyone.. she had no weapons. All she had, was the daughter which she brought 270 miles to the White House.

    Now again, this is all just speculation.

    The child in now in their custody with Child Protective Services.

    Yeah, sometimes people just go crazy. But sometimes they have good reason to. When she fled the scene they started shooting at her so she was right to drive like a crazy person away from them, but her fate seems like it was already sealed at that point. When she got out of the car, she was executed. Congress currently applauds the Capitol Police and the Secret Service for that one.

    If she was the mother of an illegitimate child who was the product of her liaison with some high ranking public figure in the White House, yeah, that could have driven her crazy.

    “The woman who led authorities on a chase from the White House to the Capitol before she was killed by police may have thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her, law enforcement sources told NBC News.” MSNBC

    Why would she think that?

    Well, if Barack was the father, his people would be watching her every move, wouldn’t they? They would be afraid that she would go public, so they would watch her very closely… effectively “stalking” her, right?

    Now again, this is all just speculation at this point. Unnamed law enforcement officials are claiming she had drugs in her home used in the treatment of “schizophrenia and other mental disorders

    Of course that could be bullshit tossed out there to make her look “crazy” or they could have been planted or for someone else living in the residence… hard to say at this point.

    And we may never get the truth out of this story. But with so many aspects of this story just not making any sense like her going there with the kid out of the blue and getting shot in the end while apparently giving up and the decontamination of people leaving her condo… there is a logic at play in all of this. You just have to find it. I don’t know if my hypothesis is correct and we may never know, but it makes sense out of the scenario which is a lot more logical than “she’s crazed. end of story”
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    5. What if?

    What if Miriam Carey wasn’t bat-shit crazy? What if she had a reason to be going to the White House?

    When I first heard about this story, I couldn’t believe they shot in the first place after she got out of the car. Even a large guy like myself wouldn’t be shot, unarmed with some many officers there to take me down.

    But she was shot. And that simple fact stood out to me. Now I find out she was shot by Secret Service with those little things in their ears getting directions… from the White House.

    Then I wondered what could make her so determined to get into the White House that she would drive and behave that way with the kid in the car.

    And suddenly it occurred to me… the kid isn’t a side-note to the story… the kid is the story.
    She was not married to the father but ‘seemed happy’ about the pregnancy, the former boss said.

    Authorities said the single-mother had a ‘history of mental illness’ but did not elaborate. Daily Mail
    Now, all of this is just speculation of course, but what if the child is the illegitimate daughter of a high ranking public figure in the White House and Miriam wanted something from that figure?

    That would explain why she went there with the child. That would also explain why she would be so determined to get in and see whomever it was she wanted to see.

    That would also explain why the Secret Service would execute her in the street. At that point she was going to be on every news broadcast in the country and even if she were arrested, she would still have a lawyer who could get her story to the public, destroying whomever the father was.

    She was certainly out of control and even though she kept her mouth shut for 18 months, clearly those days and whatever agreement they had was over.

    The story broke in the most public of ways with her running over folks live on CNN. There was no way to put that genie back in the bottle.

    So in that scenario, they had to kill her.

    That would also explain why they were decontaminating everyone leaving the apartment (condo)… they didn’t want one of the kid’s hairs getting out of the building attached to someone’s shoe.

    She wasn’t going to the White House to harm anyone.. she had no weapons. All she had, was the daughter which she brought 270 miles to the White House.

    Now again, this is all just speculation.

    The child in now in their custody with Child Protective Services.

    Yeah, sometimes people just go crazy. But sometimes they have good reason to. When she fled the scene they started shooting at her so she was right to drive like a crazy person away from them, but her fate seems like it was already sealed at that point. When she got out of the car, she was executed. Congress currently applauds the Capitol Police and the Secret Service for that one.

    If she was the mother of an illegitimate child who was the product of her liaison with some high ranking public figure in the White House, yeah, that could have driven her crazy.
    “The woman who led authorities on a chase from the White House to the Capitol before she was killed by police may have thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her, law enforcement sources told NBC News.” MSNBC

    Why would she think that?

    Well, if Barack was the father, his people would be watching her every move, wouldn’t they? They would be afraid that she would go public, so they would watch her very closely… effectively “stalking” her, right?

    Now again, this is all just speculation at this point. Unnamed law enforcement officials are claiming she had drugs in her home used in the treatment of “schizophrenia and other mental disorders

    Of course that could be bullshit tossed out there to make her look “crazy” or they could have been planted or for someone else living in the residence… hard to say at this point.

    And we may never get the truth out of this story. But with so many aspects of this story just not making any sense like her going there with the kid out of the blue and getting shot in the end while apparently giving up and the decontamination of people leaving her condo… there is a logic at play in all of this. You just have to find it. I don’t know if my hypothesis is correct and we may never know, but it makes sense out of the scenario which is a lot more logical than “she’s crazed. end of story”
    I've heard eye witness reports of her unarmed fleeing the scene outside her car running as secret service agents open fired on her. There are things about this story that don't add up. The highlighted in red comments above make sense of the "Clear and Present Danger" handling of this incident.

    Imagine the fallout if this theory were even partially true.

    This would bring upon the Administration another level reprehensible activity the MSM would have serious difficulty managing.

    The leisure golfing president using tax dollars to showboat while acting recklessly. All this while forcing his Marxist agenda down the throats of the working Americans.

    Imagine a Bill Clinton and Tiger Woods scandal.

    All this unraveling during the government shutdown crises and his fight with House conservatives on the debt ceiling and Obamacare.

    This would be a game changer for the Administration, pulling them off of political offense and down a long winding road of defensive damage control. One that could possibly roll back their agenda several years if not indefinitely. An agenda that was decades in the making and took unimaginable effort to push through.

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    What pushed Miriam Carey to drive to Capitol Hill?


    Miriam Carey to the right and her luxury Infinity sedan.

    Capitol shooting suspect, Miriam Carey thought President Obama was stalking her.

    In response to yesterday’s tragedy which saw dental hygienist Miriam Carey shot dead after attempting to plow through a Capitol DC gate, speculation has run rampant as to what could have caused the woman to veer off the deep end?

    To date her actions have confounded those closest to her, including her five sisters and mother who are puzzled as to what inspired the nurse to travel from her Stamford home to Washington DC.

    From there the woman went on to crash through a barricade outside the White House, hit a secret service officer and then lead authorities through a wild car chase which saw her ending up at the Capitol where she was consequently shot dead, all the while carrying her 18 month old daughter, Erica in the back seat of her luxury Infinity sedan.

    Her mother Idella Carey, would go on to tell ABC that Miriam Carey has been hospitalized after for postpartum depression after the birth of the baby.

    Nevertheless one of Carey’s sister who had spoken to the beleaguered mother went on to say her sister did not seem to be upset or behaving in any way irrationally.

    In remarks to The Washington Post, Miriam’s sister, Amy Carey, a Brooklyn nurse, appeared stunned by the reports.

    “That’s impossible. She works, she holds a job,”

    “She wouldn’t be in D.C. She was just in Connecticut two days ago, I spoke to her. … I don’t know what’s happening. I can’t answer any more.”

    It wasn’t after crashing her car into a barricade the mother attempted to flee by foot only to be gunned down by secret service agents who had demanded the woman stop. Which raises the question,why hadn’t the woman stopped and what had inspired her on this fateful journey?

    Reacting to the fracas, Chief Cathy Lanier of the Washington, D.C. Police went on to tell the incident was not the result of somebody mistakenly driving into a barricade and then panicking.

    “I’m pretty confident this is not an accident.”

    Police went on to tell there was no indication that the woman was part of a larger threat. But they said little about why she had suddenly become a threat herself.

    One theory making rounds is the fact that Mariah Carey had recently been fired by Advanced Periodontics for aggressive behavior and that may have tempered the woman’s sense of despair, whilst now being a single mother.

    Reflected the dailybeast: Maybe it all was bubbling under the surface as she seemed to many people to be doing fine. She had started her own business placing hygienists with dentists and was apparently doing well enough to keep up the payments on the condo she bought in Stamford for $242,000 three years ago. She seems to have had no tax liens or judgments against her. She was never known to go into political or religious rants.

    Also making a show of possible candidate theories is the idea that Miriam Carey was suffering from voices in her head or had come to experience deep delusions. Specifically one that had the woman that President Obama was stalking her.

    A new Facebook page entitled In Love Memory of Miriam Carey” features comments from people described as friends and acquaintances. One, purportedly from a former classmate, said Miram “was really just a sweet and nurturing person.

    What could have caused this? Post partum depression, acute latent emotional stress, medication that she was prescribed, stigma from receiving attention that ought to have, the actual means to mental health care ( and what does this say about our society?) a fall out from society, work, family, love, an undercover plan we have yet to learn of or a sudden dramatic capitulation of self….???

    What did Miriam Carey in the end really want, why did she insist on taking on live gunfire, or was she simply fleeing for her life and why in the end did she not get what she want….???

    To date authorities have not as of yet been able to determine what ultimately drove the Miriam Carey over the edge….

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    Miriam Carey never hit the cop car, the cop ran into the barriers. While the MSM reported that Miriam was responsible for the officers injuries and used her car as a weapon against police.

    Breaking News Update Raw Footage DC Police Car Slams Into Barriers At Capitol Hill!!



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    http://youtu.be/XTqFfqH8zGg

    Parents arent allowed to see her body. Witnesses say she was RUNNING AWAY and was shot in the back now.

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    so SHE didn't hit that car

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    Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
    I've heard eye witness reports of her unarmed fleeing the scene outside her car running as secret service agents open fired on her. There are things about this story that don't add up. The highlighted in red comments above make sense of the "Clear and Present Danger" handling of this incident.

    Imagine the fallout if this theory were even partially true.

    This would bring upon the Administration another level reprehensible activity the MSM would have serious difficulty managing.

    The leisure golfing president using tax dollars to showboat while acting recklessly. All this while forcing his Marxist agenda down the throats of the working Americans.

    Imagine a Bill Clinton and Tiger Woods scandal.

    All this unraveling during the government shutdown crises and his fight with House conservatives on the debt ceiling and Obamacare.

    This would be a game changer for the Administration, pulling them off of political offense and down a long winding road of defensive damage control. One that could possibly roll back their agenda several years if not indefinitely. An agenda that was decades in the making and took unimaginable effort to push through.
    OMG, and I thought maybe I was going crazy thinking the same things, what with her expensive car and condo and her being a dental hygenist, that THE KID IS THE STORY, NOT HER. Why wear decontamination suits at her home, indeed.

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    Miriam Carey Shooting Updates

    Posted on October 7, 2013 by willyloman

    (Vid at link: http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013...oting-updates/)


    Child (Erica) still in custody as of yesterday
    “Her 19 month old daugher Erica was in back seat of the car during the fatal shooting, and has not yet been released to the Casey family. Police did not allow the Casey sisters to view Miriam’s body, instead opting to show them a picture of the deceased to identify.” Guardian Express Oct. 6 2013
    ”Eyewitness” on Blitzer’s show claims they took the kid from the car, then killed the driver as she got out (H/T Aris Tocles )
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    Have not released details on who fired first, Secret Service or Capitol Police
    “”[Metropolitan] Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier said investigators still do not know which agency’s officers fired at each location,” The Washington Post reports.” Washington Post
    Secret Service and Capitol Police refuse to submit policy on using firearms to press
    The newspaper adds that police in Washington, as in many other U.S. cities, are forbidden from shooting at a moving vehicle unless their lives are in danger. Those rules also state that a moving vehicle is not deemed “deadly force.
    “Brian Leary, a Secret Service spokesman, declined to provide a copy of his agency’s use-of-force or chase policies,” The Post says. “Lt. Kimberly Schneider, a spokeswoman for the Capitol Police, did the same.” WBUR
    Fleeing danger?
    “Valarie Carey said in an interview on the Today” show Monday that perhaps her sister, Miriam Carey, was afraid and fleeing with a 13-month old child in her car when she was killed on Thursday.” NBC New York
    Mother didn’t know why Miriam was in D.C. at the White House
    “The mother says her daughter had “no history of violence” and she didn’t know why she was in Washington, D.C.” Las Vegas Sun
    Disninfo assets trying to assert there were two people in the front seats of the black Infinity



    Obviously that’s bullshit

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    Forgotten Witness and the Lie of “Ramming the Gate” at the White House

    Posted on October 7, 2013 by willyloman
    by Scott Creighton


    Lost in all the bullshit and disinformation floating around this story is the simple fact that the MSM has been lying since the beginning. Miriam Carey’s car did not suffer any damage consistent with their story that she “rammed the gates” at the White House as I have already proven in an earlier report.


    The fact is, there is no “gate” at that entrance that I can see and the story is directly contradicted by the one independent witness who came forward and spoke with the media about that initial and all important confrontation between Secret Service and the woman they gunned down in cold blood not 20 minutes later.



    The witness, Shawn Joseph, told a very different story than the one that is the mainstay of the Vichy press operating in America:
    “It began with something not that unusual — a driver with out-of-state plates turning into a blocked entry near the White House.
    It quickly became something else.


    “Whoa! Whoa!,” Secret Service officers were shouting at the car, according to a witness, Shawn Joseph, 29. “It looked liked [the driver was] scared or lost. I thought they might have been a tourist.”


    But then, witnesses said, officers tried to place a barrier in front of the car. The driver swerved. The officers moved the barrier. She hit it, and a Secret Service officer was thrown up on the hood and then off the car.


    The officer was not badly hurt. The driver sped east and was stopped by police at a small traffic circle at the foot of Capitol Hill. There, video shot by the U.S.-funded Arabic TV station Alhurra shows officers with guns pointed at the car. The driver took off.” Washington Post
    Seems to me from what this witness said, they may have been trying to prevent her from leaving, as opposed to keeping her from entering the grounds of the White House.


    The “temporary barricade” all the MSM venues mention, is one of those bike racks sitting there in the photo above.


    You would think that Shawn Joseph would be the most sought after witness in this entire affair. But you would be wrong.


    As far as I can tell, the initial Washington Post article, though cited often, is the only interview he did. I can’t find anything since then.


    And his statement should be the most important. After all, what happened at the White House is what this story is all about. Yet he’s gone into the ether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    Forgotten Witness and the Lie of “Ramming the Gate” at the White House

    Posted on October 7, 2013 by willyloman
    by Scott Creighton


    Lost in all the bullshit and disinformation floating around this story is the simple fact that the MSM has been lying since the beginning. Miriam Carey’s car did not suffer any damage consistent with their story that she “rammed the gates” at the White House as I have already proven in an earlier report.


    The fact is, there is no “gate” at that entrance that I can see and the story is directly contradicted by the one independent witness who came forward and spoke with the media about that initial and all important confrontation between Secret Service and the woman they gunned down in cold blood not 20 minutes later.



    The witness, Shawn Joseph, told a very different story than the one that is the mainstay of the Vichy press operating in America:
    “It began with something not that unusual — a driver with out-of-state plates turning into a blocked entry near the White House.
    It quickly became something else.


    “Whoa! Whoa!,” Secret Service officers were shouting at the car, according to a witness, Shawn Joseph, 29. “It looked liked [the driver was] scared or lost. I thought they might have been a tourist.”


    But then, witnesses said, officers tried to place a barrier in front of the car. The driver swerved. The officers moved the barrier. She hit it, and a Secret Service officer was thrown up on the hood and then off the car.


    The officer was not badly hurt. The driver sped east and was stopped by police at a small traffic circle at the foot of Capitol Hill. There, video shot by the U.S.-funded Arabic TV station Alhurra shows officers with guns pointed at the car. The driver took off.” Washington Post
    Seems to me from what this witness said, they may have been trying to prevent her from leaving, as opposed to keeping her from entering the grounds of the White House.


    The “temporary barricade” all the MSM venues mention, is one of those bike racks sitting there in the photo above.


    You would think that Shawn Joseph would be the most sought after witness in this entire affair. But you would be wrong.


    As far as I can tell, the initial Washington Post article, though cited often, is the only interview he did. I can’t find anything since then.


    And his statement should be the most important. After all, what happened at the White House is what this story is all about. Yet he’s gone into the ether.
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    This shows that there is certainly more to the story than we're being told-or liabe to find out.

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    Remember this????


    Now look.


    THE MIRIAM CAREY MYSTERY

    New revelations about mom killed by Capitol cops

    Autopsy reveals stunning details in shooting that rocked Washington

    Garth Kant About | Email | Archive Garth Kant is WND Washington news editor. Previously, he spent five years writing, copy-editing and producing at "CNN Headline News," three years writing, copy-editing and training writers at MSNBC, and also served several local TV newsrooms as producer, executive producer and assistant news director. He is the author of the McGraw-Hill textbook, "How to Write Television News."

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    WASHINGTON — First they called her a terrorist threat.
    When she turned out to be an unarmed suburban mother, they said she was on drugs.
    Now, WND has exclusively learned, without a trace of doubt, that was wrong, too.
    WND can also now report Miriam Carey was shot in the back of the head by U.S. Capitol Police officers and uniformed Secret Service agents six months ago, on Oct. 3, 2013.
    The official police investigation still has not been released. But Carey family attorney Eric Sanders obtained the toxicology and autopsy report on this macabre anniversary.
    The report showed there were no drugs in Carey’s system, prescription or otherwise, when she was shot dead.
    The report was prepared by Dr. Nikki Mourtzinos of the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for the District of Columbia.
    After the terror threat was discarded, the media had tried to portray Carey as mentally unbalanced, citing prescription medications she was reportedly taking.
    Sanders spoke to WND at the Garfield traffic circle, on the edge of the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol, which is where the Carey family believes Miriam was fatally wounded before driving a few blocks farther.
    And Sanders believes the autopsy report provided the evidence proving that theory, because it showed that Carey was severely wounded in the back of the head. Sanders suspects that was the fatal shot, but adrenaline allowed Carey to drive to Maryland Ave. and Second St., where her car crashed at a Capitol Police guard shack.
    The report said Carey was shot numerous times but did not specify exactly how many.
    When Miriam’s sister, Valarie Carey, learned that her sister was shot and killed from the back, the former New York Police Department sergeant was too distraught to speak with WND on camera.
    The video below shows officers fired at least seven shots at Carey in a crowded public space after they inexplicably failed to block her car at the traffic circle.
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    Sander’s told WND what he believed happened in the video at the top of this page.
    Columnist Mark Steyn memorably remarked, “Ms. Carey does not appear to be guilty of any act other than a panic attack,” and, “We are told Ms. Carey was ‘mentally ill,’ although she had no medications in her vehicle and those at her home back in Connecticut are sufficiently routine as to put millions of other Americans in the category of legitimate target.”
    But now, it is a certified fact that Carey did not even have prescription drugs in her system when she was shot to death.
    Even before that confirmation, it became clear months ago that there was no good explanation for why Carey was shot, and the story disappeared entirely off the mainstream media radar.
    In fact, no media other than WND showed up Thursday to a press conference Sanders announced. The event marked six months since the bizarre and deadly chain of events that were set in motion after Carey strapped her baby girl into the back seat of her black Nissan Infiniti in Stamford, Conn., and drove 270 miles to Washington, D.C.
    Upon arriving, she apparently made a wrong turn into a White House entrance, tried to leave, was chased by heavily armed officers and ultimately shot dead by police in the shadow of the Capitol.
    Why she was killed is a mystery to this day because, according to the initial police report, she never crashed a security gate or a barrier, though media reports claimed she had.
    Read the initial police report on the Miriam Carey case, Page 1 and Page 2.
    She simply tried to make a U-turn and leave.
    Yet, uniformed Secret Service agents and U.S. Capitol Police officers tried to stop her, then hunted her down and shot her to death.
    And to this day, a half-year later, no one knows why.
    Carey's care after she was shot to death near the Capitol on Oct. 3, 2013

    The official investigation into the incident, conducted by the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police Department and turned over to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, has still not been released.
    And the Carey family is tired of the excruciating wait for answers.
    When WND asked Sanders if he had any idea why the official investigation still had not been released, the former New York Police Department officer said, “I am just as curious as you, and I’m trying to understand it from a law-enforcement perspective.”
    “The shooting is not complex. It’s very simple. They have all the evidence. They have video,” he said. “What’s taking six months? I don’t understand this. It’s not that complex.”
    He said the Carey family called the news conference to make their feelings known and because, “Six months have passed and there still is no official version of what happened to Miriam Carey. And she matters.”
    Sanders also had a word of warning: What happened to this unarmed, suburban mother could happen to anyone.
    “The people of this country should be very, very concerned when the police feel like their actions are beyond reproach,” he said. “That’s not what the framers of the Constitution intended.”
    When Carey was shot to death by federal law-enforcement officers on Oct. 3, they were initially treated as heroes and even given a standing ovation in Congress.
    But then WND began asking questions about what exactly happened, and the mainstream media narrative began to unravel.
    At first, police justified their actions because they presumed Carey posed a possible terrorist threat. When it turned out she posed no such threat and, in fact, was a suburban mother with her child strapped into the back seat of her car, officials defended their actions by saying they essentially had no choice but to shoot first and ask questions later.
    But WND consulted with law enforcement and civil-liberties experts and learned that not only were those police actions contrary to the policies of most major police departments, they were probably unconstitutional.
    Constitutional law expert and famed civil libertarian Nat Hentoff told WND it was a plain case of murder.
    Nat Hentoff

    WND contacted 87 members of Congress to inform them about the misconceptions, unusual circumstances and unanswered questions surrounding the death of Miriam Carey and has yet to receive a single response.
    “Well, if it’s not on their agenda, no one wants to talk about it,” Sanders said. “How do you justify shooting an unarmed woman?”
    He added, “How do you justify shooting at a car as it is driving away? Everyone knows, but it’s not politically correct to say it was unjustified.”
    Sanders and the Carey family have now begun their own attempt to get the government to listen.
    “We have a petition urging Congress to finally do its job and investigate – to see what happened in this shooting. Obviously, we don’t want it to conflict with the criminal investigation,” Sanders told WND.
    The attorney noted that just recently, Congress had finally begun to show at least a little interest in the case. On March 23, members of the House Appropriations Committee asked a smattering of questions about Carey to Capitol Police Chief Kim Dines.
    “His comments are laughable,” is how attorney Sanders described the chief’s statements after he defended his department’s use of force in the deadly shooting of Carey.
    Dines told members of the House Appropriations Committee that the high-speed car chase from the White House to the Capitol involved a “very, very quick, very fluid set of circumstances.”
    Miriam Carey

    But Sanders wasn’t buying it. The attorney, who represents the Carey family in a $75-million wrongful death claim against the Capitol Police and the Uniformed Division of the U.S. Secret Service, disputed what his clients saw as the “shoot first, ask later” approach used by federal officers.
    Sanders said he was certain officers didn’t follow training guidelines.
    “If he’s telling me that’s the way law enforcement officers are trained in the District of Columbia, especially Capitol Police, then Congress and the rest of the district should be afraid, because that’s not how you want your police officers responding,” observed Sanders.
    Dine justified his officers’ deadly response by telling Congress, “These officers are out there every day putting their lives on the line and they have to make split-second decisions, and it’s easy for any one of us to obviously sit here and second guess them.”
    Sanders reminded WND that he has a law enforcement background and speculated the reason the chief responded that way was likely because “what law enforcement tends to do is close ranks. If he’s so confident in his statement, they could have released the policy already. It’s very easy.”
    The attorney was referring to the Capitol Police Department’s official policy on the use of deadly force, which has not been made public.
    Sanders provided WND with a copy of the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police Department’s guidelines on the use of force, “because it would only make sense that the Capitol Police and Secret Service would operate under similar guidelines.”
    The Metro Police guidelines read:

    • “[N]o member shall discharge a firearm in the performance of police duties except to defend himself or herself or another from an attack which the officer has reasonable cause to believe could result in death or serious bodily injury.”


    • “No member of the the Metropolitan Police Department shall discharge his/her firearm … at or from a moving vehicle unless deadly force is being used against the officer or another person. For purposes of this order, a moving vehicle is not considered deadly force.”

    That last point is critical. Because a moving vehicle is not considered deadly force, Carey would be legally considered both unarmed and not a threat. Nonetheless, she was shot and killed by officers.
    When Rep. James Moran, D-Va., asked Dines if officers should have shot at the tires rather than the driver – especially considering Carey was unarmed and had her baby in the backseat of her car – the chief responded, “There’s a lot of opinions out there, but most of them are wrong and uneducated.”
    Initial reports after the shooting indicated Capitol Police officers may have had difficulties communicating with Secret Service agents on an antiquated radio system, and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., asked Dine if the radio system had hindered the department’s response.
    That system was finally replaced in March, but Dine said it had not been a problem on Oct. 3 and that officers were able to communicate using a two emergency channels.
    U.S. Capitol Police Chief Kim C. Dine

    Five days after the shooting death of Carey, however, Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, expressed alarm that the faulty radio system might have been an issue.
    “If these communication failures are in fact accurate, it is extremely concerning that this problem still has not been resolved after years of experience with such situations, as well as billions of dollars spent to resolve our weaknesses in interoperable communications systems,” said the former chairwoman and ranking member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
    But Valarie Carey, Miriam’s sister, told WND she believes a bigger issue was inexperience on the part of the officers who killed Miriam.
    Valarie was concerned officers may have panicked, and she suggested they might not have ever experienced such a situation.
    “The more experienced an officer is, the better equipped that officer is to address the situation, even if there had been a problem with radio contact,” she said, recalling her own law enforcement training. “If someone can’t decide when to take someone’s life, they should not be put in that position.”
    At the end of January, attorney Eric Sanders informed WND he had filed the $75-million claim against the U.S., the uniformed division of the U.S. Secret Service and the U.S. Capitol Police for “numerous intentional, grossly negligent and reckless actions of police officers, supervisors, managers and other related employees.”
    Sanders said that after months of waiting for the release of the official investigation and after an exhaustive review of all publicly available data, the Carey family has concluded the shooting was not justified.
    The suit maintains Carey was still alive after she was shot numerous times by officers and then taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead.
    Carey was mortally wounded by gunfire during the chase, according to the suit. But, out of panic, she continued driving until she finally came to a stop and was taken from her car, a few blocks away from the initial shooting.
    The suit said the incident began because Carey “mistakenly drove past the first guard post at the White House entrance because the entrance was negligently maintained, covered and supervised by police officers, supervisors, managers” and others, and then tried to make a lawful U-turn to leave.
    However, according to the claim, “for some inexplicable reason,” instead of simply allowing Carey to leave, a police officer “without provocation or legal justification, inconsistent with his or her police training, negligently and recklessly threw a bicycle rack at the vehicle, striking it.”
    The suit goes on to maintain that Carey had not violated any law and, therefore, police had “no legal basis to stop her or use any amount of physical force against her.”
    Sanders claims officers endangered Carey’s safety, not the other way around. He contends the ensuing car chase also endangered the public, outweighing “the benefit of investigating a harmless mistaken entrance through the White House entrance gate.”
    Sanders has filed the wrongful death claim on behalf of Carey’s mother, Idealla, Carey’s estate and her 1-year-old daughter, who was in the backseat of the car during the chase and, apparently, during the shooting. The suit is seeking $25 million for each claimant. Sanders said the suit is to compensate the family for their “great loss of a daughter, mother, friend and confidant.” But he insists the case is about more than the death of just one woman. He said it represents a threat to the rights of all Americans.
    “Somehow, the Bill of Rights did not apply to Miriam. Miriam’s life did not seem to be so important. Thus far, Miriam’s death is being treated as simple collateral damage in the government’s zeal to protect itself from terrorism,” Sanders said.
    He said that zeal should not eclipse the importance of human life.
    “The framers of the United States Constitution fought for, died for and demanded it. We should expect no different in today’s society either,” he said.
    Sanders, a former New York Police Department officer, has told WND numerous reasons why he believes officers should never have fired at Carey.

    • Media reports claimed Carey tried to ram a White House gate or barrier with her car, but the initial police report did not mention an attempt to ram anything;


    • The police report said Carey tried to make a U-turn after arriving at a White House checkpoint;


    • She apparently broke no laws until fleeing after being confronted by heavily armed guards;


    • Police justified the shooting out of fear Carey might be a terrorist, but Sanders pointed out, if officers feared Carey had a bomb, that would be reason not to shoot at her;


    • Additionally, WND found information that officers would have known within minutes that Carey was not a terrorism threat;


    • Sanders and law enforcement experts also told WND the policy of most major police departments is to never shoot at moving vehicles;


    • Non-lethal means, such as tire spikes, apparently were not used to try to stop the car;


    • Non-lethal means, such as pepper spray or a Taser, apparently were not used to subdue Carey before officers shot her to death;


    • Video showed officers shooting at Carey in a crowded public space at least seven times after officers inexplicably failed to block her car at a traffic circle.

    Miriam Carey

    In announcing the $75-million lawsuit, the Carey family apparently grew tired of waiting for the release of the official investigation conducted by the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police.
    That investigation has been turned over to the U.S. Attorney at the Justice Department for review, which, the department tells WND, is standard practice for investigations that include officer-involved shootings.
    When two months had passed, Sanders told WND it was not an unusual length of time for such a multifaceted investigation involving more than one law-enforcement agency. But, when five months had passed, the family apparently had exhausted its patience.
    “The Carey Family calls for immediate identification and termination of all police officer, supervisors, managers and other related employees’ involved in this matter who failed to order the immediate termination of pursuing Miriam and failed to establish firearms control; thereby, collectively causing the avoidable death of Miriam,” said the attorney.
    Sanders said, unless authorities are seriously considering criminal charges, they should have taken what they have learned from the Carey case on car stops, vehicle pursuits and the use of force and announced policy changes to the public.
    “These public disclosures are absolutely necessary because Miriam’s death unfolded right before the international community via live television,” said Sanders.
    Sanders wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder to request a civil rights investigation, but he told WND he never received a response.
    Valarie has been calling for a congressional investigation.
    “The United States Congress using its legislative powers must investigate Miriam’s death. It is in the public’s interest to ensure our government acted responsibly not only from a criminal or a civil perspective but from an internal agency perspective. It is also in the public’s interest avoid a similar tragedy in the future,” she said.
    WND has contacted dozens of lawmakers in Congress for comment on the case but has not received a single reply.
    Meanwhile, police have virtually admitted they have video of law enforcement officers shooting to death the unarmed 34-year-old woman, but they’re deliberately withholding it from the public.
    WND attempted to obtain video of the shooting death of Carey by filing a Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, request. The request was denied by Metro Police. By telling WND that releasing the video might adversely affect any criminal proceeding, police have essentially admitted such video might cast a bad light on the conduct of officers and agents. The withholding of the video also confirmed that authorities are at least considering the possibility of pressing charges against officers and agents involved in the shooting.
    A WND investigation revealed the presence of at least seven security cameras in positions to capture video of the shooting at Constitution Avenue NE & 2nd Street. The incident was also likely captured by numerous dash-cams on police cruisers.
    WND has appealed the denial of its FOIA request for the video to the office of Vincent Gray, the mayor of Washington, D.C., and had also filed a FOIA request seeking the forensics report on the shooting but received no reply to multiple inquiries regarding the status of the request.
    Miriam Carey shooting press conference. WND photo by Garth Kant.

    Meanwhile, police departments in other major cities such as Philadelphia and Las Vegas have released videos of officer-involved shootings before their investigations were complete.
    The Secret Service, Capitol Police, Washington Metro Police and U.S. Attorney have withheld virtually all details of the shooting from the family of Carey and the public. The details include forensics reports that would show how many times Carey was shot, her cause of death, the position of the body at the time of death, video and photos, multiple eyewitness accounts and an explanation as to why police believed deadly force was necessary to subdue her while she was unarmed and had her infant daughter with her.
    WND confirmed the existence of video of the shooting by approaching the guard shack where Carey was shot, about a block from the Capitol dome, and asking a U.S. Capitol police officer on duty a few simple questions:
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    If a major crime such as a rape or murder were to happen within blocks of the Capitol, would there be video of it?
    “Oh yeah,” he answered, nodding his head vigorously.
    What about the shooting of Miriam Carey, is there video of that?
    “Yes,” he said without hesitation, while adding he had not seen it personally.
    Apparently no one has seen it, other than perhaps a few select members of law enforcement.
    Police could be reluctant to release that video because it might confirm what legal experts and civil libertarians from both left and right sides of the political spectrum have told WND, that they believe Carey was, in effect, murdered by police.
    After Sanders previously called upon Congress to investigate the shooting death, he told WND no members of Congress have contacted the family.
    In fact, lawmakers, who were told that police fired because of concerns of terrorism, congratulated officers for shooting the young, unarmed mother with a 30-second standing ovation shortly after her death.
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    Sanders is also calling for the firing of the officers who shot at Carey, as well as their supervisors.
    An unknown number of Secret Service officers and two U.S. Capitol Police officers involved in the shooting of Carey has been shifted to desk work while the incident is under investigation.
    “While we understand police shootings must be carefully investigated because of their social and political ramifications, by now, there should have been a preliminary analysis released in the public venue,” explained the attorney.
    Sanders said many “troubling” questions remain, but the main question is whether federal law enforcement officers were justified in firing at Carey.
    The U.S. Capitol Police and the uniformed division of the Secret Service have not made public their “Use of Force” policies.
    Sanders believes that is “absolutely necessary” now, particularly regarding the policies on firing upon moving vehicles, “because Miriam’s death unfolded right before the international community via live television.”
    As WND reported, officers fired at Carey on at least two occasions during the car chase that began at the White House. At least seven shots fired in a crowded public space can be heard on a video recording after officers failed to stop Carey’s car at a traffic circle just south of the Capitol.
    A few minutes later, Carey crashed her car a block northeast of the Capitol.
    Did police murder Carey?
    First Amendment expert Nat Hentoff told WND the evidence that officers killed recklessly was strong.
    “[T]his is a classic case of police out of control and, therefore, guilty of plain murder,” he said.
    Constitutional law expert John Whitehead, president and founder of the nonprofit civil-liberties organization the Rutherford Institute, agreed, telling WND that from what he’d seen, it looked like murder.
    Press waiting for a police statement. WND photo by Garth Kant.

    Political activist and former Graham County, Ariz., Sheriff Richard Mack called it “sloppy” police work and saw “no justification whatsoever” for the use of deadly force against Carey.
    Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and author of the New York Times bestseller, “Life Inside the Bubble: Why a Top-Ranked Secret Service Agent Walked Away From It All,” was reluctant to second-guess the actions of law-enforcement officers in a fast-moving and confusing situation and loath to evaluate their decisions in hindsight.
    But even he felt the situation, involving Secret Service agents at the White House, could have been handled better and doubted that those involved, or their superiors, would dispute that.
    Saying the incident was absolutely not handled effectively, Bongino predicted it would lead to changes, including retraining and security modifications.
    Serious questions from the start
    WND reported from the scene of the shooting that there were immediately serious questions as to how Carey ended up dead.
    Carey was initially portrayed in the media as a national security threat, but when that proved not to be true, she was characterized as mentally unstable.
    Major media outlets such as the New York Times, NBC and ABC News all reported that Carey tried to ram a White House gate or checkpoint.
    However, as WND noted, the police report never mentioned a White House gate, a barrier or any attempt to ram anything.
    The report described the location as “a vehicle checkpoint to the White House” and said the driver “refused to stop at the vehicle checkpoint and made a U-turn and began to flee.”
    The report did say a Secret Service officer “attempted to block the vehicle with a bicycle rack, however, the vehicle pushed over the bicycle rack, knocking the officer to the ground.”
    Bongino believes the problem actually originated almost 200 years ago because the South entrance to the White House, although secure, was designed in the early 1800s.
    He thinks there will be “a serious remodel” of some of the security on the South side of the White House, following the incident. The former protector of the president didn’t want to divulge too much about security measures there, but he said there did appear to be an access-control issue.
    Amy, Valarie and Miriam Carey

    “She turned into a little pocket there, and anybody can turn in there,” he said. “She got caught up and sped off. You wouldn’t be able to do that at another secure government building. They use vehicle traps.”
    Bongino had tremendous empathy for his former colleagues in the uniformed branch of the Secret Service and declined to second-guess their split-second decisions in a confusing situation.
    Noting the unique nature of the White House, he pointed out how agents working up to 20-hour days are surrounded by threats.
    The White House is a big target, he explained. The president is an even bigger target.
    “When the president’s in the White House, it’s even worse,” he said. “You’re constantly on edge.”
    Still, Bongino conceded that the authorities may have overreacted.
    “The libertarian in me thinks this was a very dangerous incident for civil liberties,” he said. “The fact you could have, perhaps, a condition and an extremely bad day and wind up dead, of course, should bother all of us.”
    A WND review of the known facts revealed police may have posed a greater threat to public safety than Carey did. It appears she never violated any law until police began pursuing her car. Officers, on the other hand, fired numerous shots at her in a crowded public space near the White House, as the video above shows.
    “What happened to this woman is an extraordinary example of how police have no limits when they get into this sort of situation,” maintained Hentoff.
    Mack and Whitehead both strongly believe the police should have handled the car chase much differently and that they ignored a number of non-lethal alternatives.
    Bongino felt it wasn’t a black-and-white situation.
    “When you watch that video … you see that car being whipped around,” he said. … [I]t should be obvious to anyone watching that a car is a weapon like anything else. As a matter of fact, sometimes it’s even more dangerous a weapon than a firearm, especially when you don’t know who is behind the wheel.”
    So, why is Miriam Carey dead?
    Valarie insisted “deadly force was not necessary.”
    “They could have rammed the car or disabled the car. But in this incident, they used very, very poor judgment,” she said. “And this is something those officers will have to live with.”
    Sanders wondered, “How do you shoot at a person who is unarmed, sitting in a car?”
    The day after Sanders held a press conference announcing he was calling for the Justice Department to look into the death of Miriam Carey, the attorney was arrested.
    The New York Post reported Sanders was arrested after a judge had decided the attorney had missed too many payments owed to a former employee.
    When WND asked Sanders if he felt his arrest was an attempt to either silence or intimidate him, the attorney laughed aloud.
    “Of course I think it was! I can’t prove it,” he said. “I loved the timing of it – the day after our press conference. Exactly one day after I said don’t trust the government.”
    Sanders added: “I am clean. That’s the way I was as a cop. That’s the way I am as an attorney. I was a police officer in New York. I’ve never been arrested in my life. The questions is, why was I picked up?”


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