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    http://www.freeenergynews.com/Direct.../WaterFuel.wmv


    This guy runs his car one WATER! No joke!

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    Default Re: We may no longer be dependant on fossil fuels! Must see!

    From everything I've read on Klein; it appears that his system makes a great hybrid vehicle. An escort can average around 40 - 50 mpg. While without it it averages 30 - 35 mpg. Quite nice actually. Unfortunately the video would like you to believe he's getting around 3500 mpg. (4 ounces of water over a period of 100 miles) That's the media for you.

    You can however run the system on the hydrogen system alone... The catch is likely the price of the electrolyte that is mixed with the water before electricity is combined. You would still likely garner around 50mpg of water/electrolyte solution I'm guessing. So with that in mind you can bet the Patented solution will be pricey in order to keep us paying around $2.50+ a gallon in fuel prices.

    Sure, this could break the addiction to oil from overseas but you'll not very likely see any major cost benefits in the long run, and I really doubt you'll see this system as anything other than another hybrid system. Oil companies don't like to lose money after all.

    Figure out his exact process and we more handy types can make the vehicles ourselves along with the electrolytic solution. Then we'll see cost benefits on the personal level. But you never know. The politicians and corporate heads could all decide to do things in our best interests right? LMAO
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    Default Re: We may no longer be dependant on fossil fuels! Must see!

    I'm not sure what the mystery is here. Electrolysis is a horribly inefficient way to make hydrogen from water. Sure you can do it, but it's a net loss over all. I suppose if injecting it with the gasoline, the gas engine becomes more efficient and the efficiency gained there is more than the loss of making HHO, then it can boost mileage. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

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    Default Re: We may no longer be dependant on fossil fuels! Must see!

    This guy Klein uses an electolyitic solution with his process. Giving you HHO gas with fewer amps used. Probably one of the few ways you're going to do it in a car effectively. But still I agree that there is no free lunch and no magicall way to just fill up with water and take off. Not yet anyway. Who knows what the future will bring.

    I have read however that there is a few guys that make hybrids out of their cars using laptop batteries. (actually its slightly illegal because of the amount of lithium you're carrying.) They get around 175mpg with them on smaller vehicle frames. Not bad and GM is looking into the way they've arranged their batteries and whatnot.

    I see us going to coil oil diesel before we switch to a non-fossil fuel actually. As Mal states above, and I posted above, there just isn't yet a way to get the costs much lower than what we're paying right now at the fuel pumps.
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    Default Re: We may no longer be dependant on fossil fuels! Must see!

    >>They get around 175mpg with them on smaller vehicle frames<<

    I highly doubt that unless they are plug-in hybrids. I mean, a purely electric vehicle makes no pollution, right? Electricity is pollution free, innit? /joke

    There is a certain amount of energy required to make a car "go". No matter where that energy is spent, it's spent, period. The vehicle requires X amount of newton meters to get up to and maintain speed. End of story. If you burn nat gas in a power plant to charge batteries or burn raw gas with open headers, the energy requirement is the same. TINSTAAFL

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    Default Re: We may no longer be dependant on fossil fuels! Must see!

    excellent point. Even if they get 175mpg, their batteries are consuming energy from different sources making the costs still up there. I'll find the article for you though. I think it was in Popular Mechanics. I believe I still have the issue here. And provided my children haven't colored it too much I'll scan the article in. lol

    I still think that many batteries from laptops would be illegal though just because of regulations on personal ownership of lithium. (it's why the biggest laptop battery you can currently purchase is 12 cells).
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    It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.

    It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.

    -Father Denis O'Brien of the United States Marine Corp.


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