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News is saying the plane hit the sea south west of Perth Australia. A LOT of people are skeptical at this point - there has not yet been any debris found though, so there is nothing confirmed at this point.
Edit: more information, it's the MALAYSIAN PM that is saying this.
No one, and I mean NO ONE trusts them right now.
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Co-Pilot, Flying Officer Marc Smith, turns his Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) AP-3C Orion aircraft at low level in bad weather whilst searching for the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 over the southern Indian Ocean March 24, 2014. Richard Wainwright—Pool/Reuters Several objects floating in an area of the Indian ocean—about 1,224 miles southwest of Perth, Australia—have been spotted by planes searching for possible debris from missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which vanished from radar screens on March 8
Updated 9:08 a.m.
A Chinese plane on Monday spotted white, square-shaped objects in an area of the Indian Ocean where investigators have been looking for debris from the Malaysia Airlines flight missing for more than two weeks.
The state news agency Xinhua said a search plane passed over the objects in the southern Indian Ocean, about 1,224 miles southwest of Perth, where satellite imagery has led the international hunt to focus its efforts in recent days. Poor conditions reportedly meant photographs of the objects weren’t possible, but they were called “suspicious,” raising hopes yet again in a search that has seen numerous clues lead to dead ends.
“At present, we cannot yet confirm that the floating objects are connected with the missing plane,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei cautioned a news briefing in Beijing.
The coordinates were sent to the Australian command center, which is coordinating the latest phase of the multinational search, as well as to the Chinese icebreaker Snow Dragon, which is due to arrive in the vicinity on Tuesday. The sighting is just the latest unconfirmed report to emerge from the area in the last few days. Possible wreckage, measuring 22 meters (74 ft) by 13 meters (43 ft), was initially sighted on satellite imagery on March 20 but has still not been tracked down.
“Pallets” with straps of different lengths were also spotted on Saturday and could possibly be cargo from the missing plane. However, they still have not been located and may have fallen off a shipping vessel, experts said. On Monday, Malaysian officials confirmed that the flight had carried such cargo but emphasized there was no hard evidence to connect the latest sightings.
Australian Transport Minister Warren Truss described Sunday’s search for Flight 370, which disappeared on March 8 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board, as “fruitless.” Operations were hampered by inclement weather. Search planes must fly for four hours from Perth, western Australia, to reach the area, and only have two hours there before having to return due to low fuel.
French satellite data pointed to certain objects on Saturday that may have been connected to the missing Boeing 777, but 575 miles north of previous sightings by Australia and China.
The U.S. is preparing to move a specialized device for locating black boxes in deep water into the region. The transponder on the 200-ton, twin-engine airliner’s flight recorder only has some two weeks of battery left, and is typically only audible in about 6,000 ft of water. But the highly sensitive listening capability of the Towed Pinger Locator can potentially hear down to a depth of 20,000 feet. The ocean floor in that area is thought to be some 9,000 ft deep, and sonar technology is hampered by a mid-ocean ridge.
Despite the ramping up of search operations in the southern corridor, experts emphasize that all options should remain open until definitive proof is found. “If you have evidence of debris in a certain area then the entire herd goes in that direction, which would not be ideal as if it turns out to be false then you have wasted all that time and resources,” sayid Michael Daniel, an International Aviation Safety consultant who spent over three decades at the Federal Aviation Administration.
James Middleton, professor of aviation at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, warned against underestimating the amount of debris floating in the southern Indian Ocean. “It’s a very rough part of the world and ships get into big storms and get damaged,” he told TIME. “And some disappear.”
Middleton also said he doubts whether the plane would have traveled as far as the southern Indian Ocean if there were a fire or catastrophic failure, and doesn’t think it’s a logical destination for a hijacking. “I cannot think of one reason why someone would take an airplane there, and I can’t think of a circumstance where it would be taken there accidentally,” he said.
Meanwhile, a transcript published in U.K. media that purported to be the last 54 minutes of communication by pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27, from the cockpit of was dismissed as “invalid and inaccurate” by Department of Civil Aviation Director-General Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, according the New Straits Times. Also, according to police sources speaking to Fairfax Media, nothing of value has been recovered from the home flight simulator of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah. Malaysian officials revealed Monday that more than 100 people had been interviewed by police including the families of both the pilot and co-pilot.
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Re: South China Sea: China shows more muscle in face-off with Vietnam
Retired Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney on Friday was on the Hannity show via telephone.
He specifically stated that this plan is NOT in the Indian Ocean, but most likely sitting in a hangar in Pakistan. He further said that he believed the plan was deliberately moved as it was to a location unknown, and had help from one or more states, possibly Malaysia, possibly India, probably Pakistan.
He said "the other shoe is going to drop".
Hannity questioned him on this and said that "what if you're wrong?". The General said "I've almost never been wrong on my predictions" and you can go back and check that I'm sure if you want. (I'm not taking the time to do it).
Today, Malaysia is saying the plane crashed in the southern Indian Ocean somewhere. They cite data they aren't releasing though.
Officials Say Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane 'Ended in the Southern Indian Ocean'
Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak speaks during the press conference for the missing Malaysia Airline, MH370 at Putra World Trade Centre (PWTC) in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, March 24, 2014.
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New satellite data reveals that missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 "ended" its journey in a "remote location" of the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said today.
"This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean," a somber Razak said during a media briefing.
The jet vanished on March 8 with 239 people on board after it took off from Kuala Lampur bound for Beijing.
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The announcement follows weeks of searches that spanned the South China Sea, Strait of Malacca and finally the south Indian Ocean off of Australia as authorities tried to figure out what happened to the plane.
The new information came from British satellite maker Inmarsat, which used a new type of analysis never before used to try and pinpoint the plane's last known location, Razak said.
"[Inmarsat] has been performing calculations on the data using type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort and they have been able to shed more light on MH370. Based on the new analysis, Inmarsat and the [British] Accidents Investigation Branch have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor and that it's last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth," Razak said.
He noted that Malaysia Airlines had already been in touch with the families of the 289 people on board, saying that he knew the past few weeks had been "heartbreaking" for them and that this latest development must be harder still.
The airlines sent a text message to the families, who reacted to the grim news by screaming and crying knowing that their loved ones likely died in a crash.
"Malaysia Airlines deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived. As you will hear in the next hour from Malaysia's Prime Minister, we must now accept all evidence suggests the plane went down in the Southern Indian Ocean," the message read.
Earlier today, an Australian plane spotted two objects described as gray or green and "circular" as well as orange and "rectangular" in the search area off Australia's coast.
Other search crews had spotted "suspicious objects" in the Indian Ocean over the weekend -- including items believed to be wooden pallets. The Malaysian government said that the missing Boeing 777-200 had been carrying wooden pallets, were not yet sure whether the pallets matched.
No wreckage has yet to be recovered.
Investigators are still trying to determine what happened to the plane after it took off around midnight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, headed for Beijing, China. It disappeared off the radar shortly after 1 a.m. but continued to fly, according to satellite data, for up to seven hours.
Malaysian authorities are considering the possibilities of hijacking, sabotage, terrorism or issues related to the mental health of the pilots.
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So someone massaged the numbers and figured out that the plane is in the ocean. Well, I'm glad that's settled.
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Exactly...get back to me when you have an orange box, a wing, some corpses...something.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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An inflatable boat was launched from an Australian Navy ship during the Indian Ocean search. Credit Australian Defense Force, via Reuters
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysia’s defense minister announced on Wednesday evening that Airbus Defense and Space, Europe’s main commercial satellite company, had forwarded images taken on Sunday of 122 objects floating southwest of Australia and said that his country had asked Australia to check if they were debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
While the objects might turn out to be unrelated to the missing aircraft, Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said, “this is still the most credible lead that we have.”
The objects are up to 75 feet, or 23 meters, in length, and are visible through gaps in clouds over an area of 154 square miles, or 400 square kilometers, he said. Some of the objects are bright, he noted without elaboration. Metal objects that had recently entered the ocean might be reflective.
Malaysia forwarded the information to Australia on Wednesday afternoon, and it was unclear if the floating objects can be checked before dark or if an inspection may need to wait until Thursday, Mr. Hishammuddin said. Play Video
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Malaysia Says New Objects Found in Ocean
Hishamuddin Hussein, Malaysia’s defense minister, said that new satellite images were “the most credible lead” in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said in a statement that it had resumed search operations after a one-day halt for bad weather on Tuesday and that at least four aircraft were scheduled to be searching on Wednesday night.
The floating objects are 1,589 miles, or 2,557 kilometers, southwest of Perth. If the debris turns out to be from the missing plane, the next step would be to figure out how far it might have drifted from where the aircraft might have splashed down, to begin an undersea search, Mr. Hishammuddin said.
The United States Navy has sent an undersea listening device and a sonar device. But each needs to be towed far underwater behind a ship traveling scarcely faster than a person walking on land.
The listening device could pick up signals from the plane’s data recorders before they stop transmitting pings in two to three weeks but needs to be towed within a mile of them for reliable detection. The sonar will work even after the data recorders go silent but needs to be even closer to detect wreckage on the seabed.
Finding floating debris from the plane might help provide closure for the families and friends of the passengers and crew, but may prove of limited use in locating the data recorders, oceanographers cautioned. The debris could have drifted hundreds of miles in the 18 days since the plane disappeared, said Jianping Gan, an oceanographer at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology who has done research aboard a Chinese icebreaker in the waters around Antarctica. Extreme Challenges for Investigators
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Jason Ali, an earth sciences professor at Hong Kong University who has studied currents in the Indian Ocean, said that “even if you’ve got floating material, if it has been floating for two and a half weeks, it’s not going to have much relation to the wreckage” on the seabed.
Mike Purcell, a senior engineer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, who led two underwater search expeditions for the wreck of Air France Flight 447 in the Atlantic in 2010 and 2011, said that the current search zone for Flight 370 was far more remote than the location of the Air France wreckage and that the seas and weather conditions were known to be considerably rougher.
“That can slow down your progress considerably, because it makes it more difficult to operate, to get the vehicles in and out of the water,” he said. And bad weather can mean days of waiting to resume the search.
Mr. Purcell estimated that there were fewer than a dozen underwater search vehicles in the world equipped with the sonar and imaging technology required for a deepwater search of this scale. These are operated by a handful of private companies and oceanographic institutes as well as by the United States Navy, he said.
Mr. Purcell said one advantage was that the sea floor in the southern Indian Ocean was relatively flat compared with the highly varied terrain of the mid-Atlantic. The depth of the water is comparable, however, at more than 10,000 feet.
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Military submarines have sophisticated equipment for listening for ships or other submarines. But unlike towed sonar like the Bluefin-21, which the United States Navy is sending and which can descend to 14,700 feet, or a towed pinger detector, which can plunge 20,000 feet, military submarines are designed to operate within a few hundred feet of the surface. That limits their ability to detect pings from far below the surface in water of different densities, moving at different speeds and at different temperatures.
For now, aircraft from Australia and other countries have been looking in an area the size of the western and southwestern United States, where the plane is believed to have disappeared after its last signals to a satellite. They have not extended the search to all the places where debris might have drifted. But because the area of the aircraft’s disappearance is so far from land, roughly a four-hour flight in each direction, planes can spend only a couple of hours searching.
Making matters worse, oceanographers said, is that currents in the southern Indian Ocean are less well understood than in more heavily trafficked seas. A violent storm on Tuesday, one of many in the region as the southern hemisphere’s winter approaches and days become shorter, has further churned the waters.
And any debris sticking up out of the water will have been pushed by the wind in directions that may be different from prevailing currents. “With any wind, it’ll act like a sail,” Mr. Ali said. Waves may also have pushed objects in unpredictable directions, making it hard to calculate the movements of any debriss.
Even finding the data recorders, although extremely difficult, may not be enough to explain what happened to Flight 370. The cockpit voice recorder stores only the two most recent hours of sounds in the cockpit before the aircraft ceases operating. Investigators have been most interested in why the plane turned around over the Gulf of Thailand roughly seven hours before it is believed to have run out of fuel over the southern Indian Ocean.
The separate data recorder for various aircraft instruments and controls would have saved information from the plane’s sharp turn, but might not reveal the intent of whoever was in the cockpit or if the turn was deliberate, as the Malaysian authorities have suggested.
Keith Bradsher reported from Kuala Lumpur, and Nicola Clark from Paris. Michelle Innis contributed reporting from Sydney, Australia, and Kirk Semple from Kuala Lumpur.
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It could be that a bunch of debris was dumped out of a cargo plane by the Pakistanis that have MH370. LOL
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Militants stand near the border between Syria and Lebanon, a portion of which was closed today after fighting between rebels and the government. Photo by AP
A new Syrian airline plans to start flights from the war-torn country in May, a company manager told Reuters on Wednesday, following months of gains on the battlefield by forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad.
The launch of Kinda Airlines, a private company, illustrates how Assad has been able - in part - to weather the three-year conflict, securing the capital and areas of the Mediterranean coast even as rebels advance in the north and east.
Esmail Sharaf, Vice Commercial Manager, told Reuters that Kinda Airlines will operate out of Damascus International airport and the coastal city of Latakia. It aims to fly to more than 10 destinations within a year, including the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Iraq, and "hopefully Lebanon and Jordan."
He said the company had registered a Boeing 737-400 from Jordan Aviation and signed a contract for an Airbus 320 with Aeolus Air, a company registered in Gambia and with offices in the United Arab Emirates.
Syria's civil war has killed over 140,000 people since it started in 2011 as a peaceful protest movement against four decades of Assad family rule. Rebels have taken several military airports and last year fired on Damascus International airport.
Sharaf said there had been a lot of demand for a second carrier other than the national airline Syrianair, which he said had flown out of Damascus throughout the conflict.
"Damascus (airport) has been very safe in the last six or seven months," he said in a telephone interview.
Kinda Airlines' debut flight was first scheduled for January. It was delayed until April 1 and again, Sharaf said, until May 1 due to "documents that are not ready and some paperwork inside Syria."
The startup has also had to deal with wide-ranging European Union, Arab League and U.S. sanctions on Syria. Syrianair has had to ground planes in the past when it was unable to buy new parts for its fleet.
"(Sanctions are) making it very, very difficult. Hopefully we have passed through all these difficulties," Sharaf said.
Syrianair maintained a 40-year monopoly until 2008, when parliament approved the creation of Syrian Pearl Airways (SPA), a venture by Rami Makhlouf, Assad's maternal cousin, who is under sanctions.
SPA closed only a month after it launched when the Spanish company which leased its planes had to terminate contracts due to U.S. sanctions.
Sharaf said Kinda Airlines' three main shareholders were all private Syrian citizens.
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The plane was piloted by Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a committed follower and political associate of Anwar Ibrahim, a key Malaysian Muslim Brother.
The plane was almost certainly diverted from within, by someone with considerable expertise.
The flight simulator in Shah’s home had data erased from it.
Anwar Ibrahim–Shah’s political idol–was a founder of the International Institute of Islamic Thought, a Muslim Brotherhood front that was investigated in connection with the Operation Green Quest raids of 3/20/2002.
Ibrahim is part of the political milieu of GOP bigwig Grover Norquist.
Key Bin Laden associate Tarik Hamdi was employed by IIIT.
The day the plane disappeared, pilot Shah’s mentor and idol was sentenced to five years in prison for sodomy.
The New York Times, among others, has obfuscated the sinister political reality and connections of Shah and Ibrahim.
“Malaysian Opposition Leader Calls Speculation About Pilot of Missing Jet ‘Absurd’ ” by Robert Mackey [The Lede]; The New York Times; 3/21/2014.
EXCERPT: Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim, dismissed speculation that the pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, a supporter of his movement for democratic change, might have hijacked the plane for political reasons, in an interview with Britain’s Channel 4 News on Friday.
As The Lede explained on Wednesday, the pilot, Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was reportedly described by an unnamed government official as a “fanatical” supporter of Mr. Ibrahim, a remark that was widely misinterpreted by journalists and bloggers.
Speaking to the Channel 4 correspondent Jonathan Rugman, Mr. Ibrahim criticized the Malaysian government’s handling of the investigation into the missing Flight 370 as “clear incompetence” and said that any attempt “to cast aspersions on the pilot purely on the basis of political leanings is absurd.” Captain Zaharie was, according to Mr. Ibrahim, “very passionate about freedom and democracy,” and “a good professional pilot,” who simply did not fit the profile of an Islamist radical. . . . “Malaysia Asks F.B.I. For Help in Plane Case” by Chris Buckley and Michael Schmidt; The New York Times; 3/20/2014.
EXCERPT: . . . . As the possible break in what had been a fruitless search was being pursued, the Malaysian authorities were seeking help from the F.B.I. to help retrieve deleted computer data from a homemade flight simulator belonging to the captain of the Malaysia Airlines jet that vanished 11 days ago, their first request for high-level American assistance in solving the mystery of the missing plane. . . .
. . . .Investigators have said the plane’s extraordinary diversion from its intended course was probably carried out by someone who had aviation experience. The Malaysian police, who found that Mr. Zaharie had built a flight simulator at his home, said Wednesday that some data had been erased from the simulator on Feb. 3, more than a month before the ill-fated flight.
Evidence suggests that whoever diverted the plane knew how to disable its communications systems and program course changes, and the data recorded in the pilot’s flight simulator may shed light on whether he was involved. . . . “Slate Whitewashes Muslim Brotherhood Ties of Malaysian Pol ‘Fanatically’ Supported by Pilot of Miss*ing Plane” by Robert Spencer; Jihad Watch; 3/17/2014.
EXCERPT: Here is reality: “Anwar Ibrahim’s ties to the Muslim Brotherhood run deep. Ibrahim helped establish the International Institute for Islamic Thought, or IIIT, a Muslim Brotherhood front group in the United States. IIIT has come under fire for their connections with terrorist organizations. In 2002, Anwar Ibrahim’s IIIT was included in a lawsuit by victims of 9/11 seeking damages from organizations linked to ‘rendering material support to radical Islamism.’ In 2003, US government prosecutors ‘submitted court documents detailing financial support (PDF) from the IIIT for convicted Palestinian Islamic Jihad fundraiser Sami al-Arian.’ They also found that Taha Jaber al-Alwani, the president of IIIT had once stated via a fatwa that ‘jihad is the only way to liberate Palestine.’ A US Customs official said that the government is also looking into the possibility that IIIT was involved in ‘terrorism-related money laundering activities.’” . . . . “International Institute of Islamic Thought”; Wikipedia.com.
EXCERPT: . . . . Tarik Hamdi came to the United States and applied for citizenship providing false information.[30][31] Hamdi worked for Sami Al-Arian, who confessed to providing assistance to the PIJ (Palestinian Islamic Jihad) and later worked for IIIT.
In May 1998 ABC News in pursuit of an interview with Bin Laden had communicated with Mohammad Atef and were directed to Tarik Hamdi as a person who could connect them to Osama Bin Laden. ABC connected with Tarik Hamdi at his place of employment at IIIT. ABC was able to get the interview. Hamdi was able to deliver a Satellite phone bat*tery pack that according to federal agents was used three months later in the bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.[32]
It took until 2005 for Tarik A. Hamdi, who was employed as a publisher at IIIT, to be charged in a federal affidavit of having been the “American contact” for one of Osama bin-Laden’s front organisations.[33][34] . . . ” ‘Democracy is Dead’: ‘Fanatical’ Missing Airliner Pilot Pictured Wearing Political Slogan T-shirt” by Simon Parry, Amanda Parry and Wills Robinson; Daily Mail; 3/16/2014.
EXCERPT: . . . . Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a father-of-three, was said to be a ‘fanatical’ supporter of the country’s opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim — jailed for homosexuality just hours before the jet disappeared.
It has also been revealed that the pilot’s wife and three children moved out of the family home the day before the plane went missing.
...Captian Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Ibrahim. And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur it is understood 53-year-old Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.
Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges.
Police sources have confirmed that Shah was a vocal political activist – and fear that the court decision left him profoundly upset. It was against this background that, seven hours later, he took control of a Boeing 777–200 bound for Beijing and carrying 238 passengers and crew.
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Zaharie’s co-workers have told investigators the veteran pilot was a social activist who was vocal and fervent in his support of Ibrahim.
‘Colleagues made it clear to us that he was someone who held strong political beliefs and was strident in his support for Anwar Ibrahim,’ another investigation source said. ‘We were told by one colleague he was obsessed with politics.’
In their interviews, colleagues said Zaharie told them he planned to attend the court case involving Anwar on March 7, just hours before the Beijing flight, but investigators had not yet been able to confirm if he was among the crowd of Anwar supporters at court.
...Malaysian officials initially appeared keen not to direct any suspicion towards Zaharie or his co-pilot, 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid, who was last week revealed to have invited two women passengers into the cockpit and smoked on an earlier flight to Phuket.
But evidence of the way the plane’s transponder and communication systems were disabled and the way the plane was expertly flown over the Indian Ocean apparently using navigational waypoints meant only a skilled aviator could have been at the controls. Investigators were also baffled by why, if hijackers took over the plane, there was no Mayday call or signal from the two pilots to say the cockpit had been breached. . . . . “Janus-Merritt Strate*gies”; Wikipedia.com
EXCERPT: . . . . Janus-Merritt Strategies was a lobbying firm founded in 1997 by conservative activist Grover Norquist and then-lawyer David Safavian, who later became better known as the chief of staff in the General Services Administration and for his conviction in the Abramoff-Reed Indian lobbying scandal. . . .
. . . . On Decem*ber 17, 2001, eleven months after Safavian’s departure, Janus resubmitted its disclosure forms. This time the name of [convicted terrorist Abdurahman] Alamoudi had been replaced by the name of Dr. Jamal al Barzinji, who is also notable as a vice president of the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT).[citation needed] Norquist has refused to release tax records of the firm for the period during which he and Safavian owned the company.[citation needed]
Safavian told the Senate that al Barzinji, not Alamoudi, was his client. “Al Barzinji,” he said, “should have been listed as the client retaining the firm for work related to Malaysian political prisoner Anwar Ibrahim,” referring to the deposed prime minister of Malaysia, who also was a co-founder of the IIIT. . . .
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Malaysian authorities have issued a new version of the last communication between air traffic control and the cockpit of the missing flight MH370.
The last words spoken were "Good night Malaysian three seven zero" - and not "all right, good night" as reported.
The transport ministry said forensic investigations would determine whether the pilot or co-pilot spoke the words.
The plane, carrying 239 people, was travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing when it disappeared on 8 March.
The plane's last contact took place at 01:19 Malaysian time. Continue reading the main storyMH370 - Facts at a glance
8 March: Malaysia Airlines Kuala Lumpur-Beijing flight carrying 239 people disappears
Plane's transponder, which communicates with ground radar, was switched off as it left Malaysian airspace
Satellite 'pings' indicate plane was still flying seven hours after satellite contact was lost
24 March: Based on new calculations, Malaysian PM says "beyond reasonable doubt" that plane crashed in southern Indian Ocean with no survivors
The BBC's transport correspondent Richard Westcott says the new version of the last words is more formal and more in keeping with the way a pilot might usually speak to air traffic control than the wording previously reported.
It is not clear why it has changed or why it has taken the authorities this long to determine this, he says.
'No time limit' Earlier the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said rescue crews had put no time limit on the hunt for the missing jet.
Aircraft and ships are scouring the Indian Ocean west of Perth looking for any trace of the flight.
Evidence from satellite "pings" received from the plane after its last contact with air traffic control and radar has been used to delineate a search area.
While floating objects have been spotted by search teams, none has been identified as coming from the Boeing 777.
The search teams are deploying a device known as a "towed pinger locator" (TPL) to listen for ultrasonic signals from the plane's "black box" flight-data recorders.
The signals from the flight recorders last about 30 days. The Australian ship carrying the towed pinger locator was due to leave Perth on Monday
Dozens of relatives of some of the 153 missing Chinese passengers have travelled to Kuala Lumpur in their search for answers.
They have become increasingly angry with what they perceive as a lack of information from the Malaysian authorities.
Malaysia's acting Transport Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, said the government would soon hold a briefing for those families to update them on the search, which would include international experts to explain the research, data and methodology used in the operation.
The briefing would also be broadcast live to other families in Beijing, he said.
Mr Hussein said Malaysia would never give up until it knew what had happened to MH370.
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Flight 370 Passenger Philip Wood Allegedly Sends Message from U.S. Military Base in Indian Ocean
Dean Garrison March 31, 2014
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There are rumblings that the passengers of Malaysian Flight 370 may be alive and incarcerated at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. If this proves to be true, then a likely scenario is that this was a false flag pulled off by the U.S. Government.
Please keep in mind that there are those out there who create conspiracy theories and accompanying evidence as a hobby. With modern technology, it is getting easier and easier to do. This may or may not be one of those times.
The story is that missing Flight 370 passenger Philip Wood, an IBM employee and Texas native, was able to send a picture and message to an internet message board. Below is an excerpt from jimstonefreelance.com:
This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by IBM engineer Philip Wood. SAVE IT TO YOUR DESKTOP. RIGHT CLICK IT. SELECT PROPERTIES. CLICK DETAILS, THAT REVEALS THE EXIF. Shills are saying I did not post the Exif. Shills pray for people to be stupid. NOTHING PROVES IT BETTER THAN THE ACTUAL IMAGE. THAT IS WHY I POSTED THE ACTUAL IMAGE. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it's real; this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm its authenticity. I don't know how big the island is, but if it has a runway, that certainly fits.
The picture posted with the following text: "I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly."
ASTEROID IMPACT LEVEL UPDATE: SCAMMERS ARE SAYING THERE NEVER WAS A PHILIP WOOD WORKING FOR IBM. BUT HIS LINKEDIN DESTROYS THAT LIE AND CONFIRMS THE STORY:
UPDATE: If Philip Wood´s Linkedin is not embedded below exactly as stated HERE IS THE LINK.
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For what it's worth, I did look at the Exif data and the coords are at(well close to) Diego Garcia. It's easy enough to edit the file and change those numbers so in and of itself it doesn't prove anything.
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Hijacked IBM Engineer Successfully Dialed Out Of Diego Garcia UPDATED
Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:00
(Before It's News) BLOCKBUSTER: THIS IS ACCURATE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT: HIJACKED IBM ENGINEER SUCCESSFULLY DIALED OUT OF DIEGO GARCIA UPDATED WITH QUESTIONS ANSWERED BELOW MAIN STORY
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
Shills are now using the approach “the message is too perfect” because they can’t answer to what is here. But the message is exactly what I would expect from an intelligent person who has been captured, FAKE would be: My plane was hijacked by American and British military people. I am on Diego Garcia. I have been tortured. Please help. In Philips message, he does not know where he is or who is holding him. Anyone faking the message would certainly say Diego Garcia and American/British forces. The fact that Philip does not know anything about his captors FITS TOTALLY with the message being authentic.
Right now the American intelligence front is frantic on the blogs, attempting to find any way to slam this. They are testing any possible way to convince people this is not true, and will run with whatever works. Don’t let that fool you, use your brain with what is here and think for yourself.
The blindfold:
The man claimed to be blindfolded when he sent the message. When the American military blindfolds someone, it is accomplished by putting a bag over the head that is locked so you can’t get it off. This left the engineers hands free. This would have made it possible for him to pull his Iphone 5 (a fact confirmed by the Exif data) out of his butt as stated, and use the voice command ability of the Iphone to just talk to it to log in and post the message. This explains why he sent a black photo, he could not see what he was sending, he just knew he snapped a photo and sent whatever got taken. The coordinates:When the coordinates are added to the fact that the photo’s exif data does not match the Google coordinates or any other coordinates for Diego Garcia that are posted online, but is still within the boundaries of Diego Garcia, it proves that no one just pulled those coordinates off the web. It helps confirm that this was not just a hoax because the coordinates are exact to wherever on Diego Garcia the Iphone was when it took the photo.
ORIGINAL POST FOLLOWS:
IBM ENGINEER TAKEN FROM HIJACKED FLIGHT 370 GOT A SELFIE OUT TO THE INTERNET. UPDATE: PHILLIP WOOD IS A TECHICAL STORAGE DIRECTOR FOR IBM MALAYSIA, THIS STORY IS 100 PERCENT LEGIT. HERE IS HIS LINKDIN ACCOUNT, UPDATE: If Philip Wood´s linkdin is not embedded below exactly as stated, HERE IS THE LINK
UPDATE: Jpeg now provided because the Linkdin account is now censored by region and does not work in all areas
This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by an IBM engineer. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it’s real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it’s authenticity. Diego Garcia is big enough to have a runway be hard to see in full frame pictures of the island, so a 3 mile radius fits.
The picture posted with the following text: “I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly.”
MY COMMENT: The Exif is intact. Exif data gets embedded in every image by every camera and includes the circumstances under which the photo was taken. It can be viewed by saving the image to your desktop, and then right clicking it and selecting image properties. Hit the details tab. You can see that the image was taken on March 18 with an Iphone 5, with the ISO at 3200 and a shutter of 1/15. The coordinates are included in the exif data because the Iphone knows where it is, and the coordinates are for Diego Garcia.
Obviously I cannot confirm this 100 percent as real, but I do know that Exif can’t be rewritten with common software without a trace, ALL software leaves a note in the application tag that says the picture was modified by an application. Exif can be erased as well but NOT CHANGED WITHOUT A TRACE. Photos with the exif from the original imaging device intact AND UNCHANGED will hold up in court. If the Exif is hacked and this is not real, the CIA or a really good hacker did this, which I doubt, I’d say it’s probably real. The image exif clearly shows that the Iphone camera itself was the last thing that did anything with the image. An external app never touched it.
Surrounding this story is the fact that the man who managed to get this information to Farganne was harassed and received many threatening voice mails over it, that is another piece of evidence pointing to this as being real. I cannot stress how important it is that the GPS coordinates in the photo do not perfectly match what Google or anything else on the web says, because it proves that the source of those coordinates did not come from google or another web site, they really did come from the imaging device and prove that it was in fact taking the photo in Diego Garcia.
THE ABOVE IS NOW CONFIRMED 100 PERCENT TRUE. SHILLS ARE SAYING PHILLIP WOOD DID NOT WORK FOR IBM, AND THAT IS A BOLD FACED LIE PROVEN FALSE BY HIS LINKDIN ACCOUNT. DEBUNK ATTEMPTS AND UPDATES I did not want to post, but now have to because of the way certain people took this. Iphone won’t fit? That is SILLY. From an E.R. doctor who pulled a 12 inch long 8 inch wide salami out of an idiot´s butt
OTHER DEBUNK ATTEMPTS: If anything was used to re-tag this image, it would say so in the software tag of the image. Any time software modifies any aspect of the image, the last thing to touch the image gets put in the software tag. The Iphone’s standard software is in the image tag and nothing else. That means this image has NOT been re-tagged and that is the FIRST THING I checked before posting this story. And NO, YOU CANNOT MODIFY IT WITH A PROGRAMMING EDITOR UNLESS YOU ARE A MACHINE LANGUAGE GENIUS. Open notepad (which is a basic programming editor). Drag the photo into notepad. it will open as code. The Exif is all machine code. This is the NSA type hack I talked about, unless the NSA or a serious hacker wanted to do this, the photo is legit. And the surrounding circumstances also show this story to be legit. A non shill question: Diego Garcia is a military installation. Are there civilians on the island? ANSWER: YES, 1,600 of them. And they have cell phones no doubt. Civilian cell service would be there. And what about all the military spouses? They would be there too, and NOT in the military but (possibly) listed as military. They have phones as well, Diego Garcia would not be a black hole. Non shill comment: Geosetter can modify exif. I did it, I changed the location in the picture. My comment: Did Geosetter erase the Iphone O.S. version? It should have, and that would prove the photo fake. Above, all that data is perfectly intact. All software I have seen will say it modified a photo. Since Geosetter is public domain it should say it had the image and produced it with the Iphone O.S. data either added to or removed entirely. Absent this, Geosetter would be a hacker app. BLOCKBUSTER UPDATE AGAIN: This got posted to 4chan and was pulled immediately, but 4plebs, an independently run backup of 4chan which is NOT controlled has the original on archive, and the date of posting matches the photo. BINGO! read it HERE. This answers the question why the photo only surfaced recently. Someone surfing archives found it. 4chan would be absolutely a PRIME choice for someone in trouble.
Really bad debunk: Why did he not post the Exif data? NOTHING IS BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL PHOTO, WHICH CONTAINS THE EXIF. SINCE THE PHOTO WAS PROVIDED, ALONG WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR READING EXIF, THIS ONE IS LAUGHABLE. More Debunks answered
There was no Philip wood working for IBM – this one was really poor. This was the very first debunk posted anywhere, and it’s so thin and transparent well, if you get fooled by that one let’s just say I am not going to help you by linking out AGAIN. Re read the article please The exif data was hacked - That would debunk the whole story, but it is not the case. Actually untraceably changing exif is not that easy.ALL LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE, EVERY LAST BIT OF IT OUT THERE, WILL SAY IT HAD THE PICTURE AND PRODUCED IT IF IT IS SAVED WITH THAT SOFTWARE. THERE ARE NO SUCH FINGERPRINTS ON PHILIP’S IMAGE. Most people do not even know what exif data is. From my experience I would say that fewer 9 out of 10 people have heard of it. Of the fewer than 10 percent who have, most will be photographers.
I have been doing photography and known about exif since the beginning of digital photography. And there have been times, for the sake of sending messages secretly embedded in Jpegs or claiming ownership of images, I have wanted to hack exif at least enough to pull entire Jpegs into programming editors to see if there was anything I could tweak. Except for a few notes in the Jpeg, the exif is machine language. That’s pretty tough to work with and even most who work as professional programmers can’t do it which makes that scenario highly implausible. And software like photoshop ALWAYS changes the software tag and claims full ownership of the image. So even though there are applications that can edit exif, they always leave a trace in the software tag. The photo posted by Philip had no such changes to the software tag. If the image posted by Philip is NOT legit, it would have taken someone with an ability to write machine language to modify it without a trace, or a hacker with an obscure app to do it, and I call bunk on that because those types of people are small in number and have better things to do than hatch b.s. on the web. This was NOT done by a teenager for a week end prank. It would be a very small number of people that actually managed to do it, as I said all along – CIA/NSA types or really good hackers. And I seriously doubt that prospect. The only thing I have a question for with regard to how this got posted to begin with is WHY 10 days? This posted on the 18th, and that’s quite a while after the event. There is no doubt the Iphone was NOT up philip’s butt the entire time. So now we get into guessing games about why it took 10 days. My guess? Somehow for a period of time Philip was tied up under close supervision but not closely supervised at the toilet. After the initial search he put the phone in a more comfortable position in his pants but did not call. And it took 10 days for him to finally get separated from the other people as stated in the message and have enough privacy to send a message out. Why post to 4chan rather than call home? That’s pretty easy to explain. The NSA would have blocked Philips number from reaching anyone of importance in his life. They do it to my phones all the time, to such an extent I gave up on cell phones, they are useless for me. And even Claudia’s phones have been cut off from receiving calls from family members, the NSA does that just to isolate people who are dissenters. Flight 370 would have been handled. E-mails? Ditto. Facebook and others that require log in? DITTO.That left only totally public blogs that did not require log in to get a message out, and 4chan is one of those. Those are the TWO legitimate questions I can think of that people could actually ask about how and why, the rest – such as you could never get a phone up your ass when you are a really smart guy who would have noticed the plane turned around and the pilot on the intercom saying the plane has been hijacked and now you have FIVE FULL HOURS TO THINK OF SOMETHING BEFORE THE PLANE LANDS, come on now, ONE guy out of 230 figured something out. The whole argument about how the phone made it is in my opinion silly. The bottom line is that the arguments against the story are a whole lot weaker than the arguments supporting it, and when you add to that the fact that my web site got hacked repeatedly and someone even managed to get a back ground image of a bloody body strewn all the way through it for a few hours Saturday night, well, hackers don’t have my log ins, only the NSA or other high level gov types would because I am too good with passwords (they are typically un hackable ones like N532r689$^// and with hackers they won’t fix it right when they think I am going to log on, they will leave it up. It got fixed without me doing anything, I never knew about it until someone told me. That would be a back stab by an intelligence agency, WHY WOULD THIS STORY BE THAT IMPORTANT IF IT WAS B.S.? They don’t just pull that type of stunt out of the blue. And the shillage was MASSIVE on this one, with outright lies that were very weak early on, evolving into other lies that were harder to dismiss, and now they are focusing on the exif and whether or not it can be changed without a trace. Well, my answer is above and was always in the original post, and it is the RIGHT ANSWER, YES, BY HACKERS AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCY TYPES, BUT NOT BY WEEKEND JOE AND THAT MAKES THAT ARGUMENT WEAK. Ultimately I guess anyone who worked in the right places could do anything, including walking up to you cloaked by the latest technology and hitting you in the head with a bean bag. But the preponderance of evidence weighs heavily in favor of this all being legit, and that is what I am sticking with. UPDATE: MAIN SITE AT www.jimstonefreelance.com HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY HACKED, WITH GROTESQE PICTURES INSERTED VIA DNS RE-DIRECT. THIS CAN ONLY HAPPEN VIA DNS RE-DIRECT WHICH CONFIRMS THE NSA IS DOING IT, FROM MY END THE SITE IS PERFECTLY NORMAL AND CONTAINS THE ABOVE INFORMATION AS IT APPEARS ABOVE. BEFOREITSNEWS IS BIG ENOUGH TO ENFORCE THE TRUTH AND PROVIDE AN ANCHOR, AND I THANK THEM VERY MUCH.
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Something has been nibbling at my little voice since the beginning of this. Not right away, but a few days in.
If you lose your smart phone, there's an ap that you can use to tell you where your phone is located, pretty much anywhere in the world. As long as it can see a cell tower during it's movement, at some point, it can ping and give it's signal. And you can find it.
Not planes?
That's not what's bothering me though.
What is really, really troubling me more than anything is the ability of the US Government to find/locate criminals, cars, guns, items, money, people - you NAME it, in a short period of time. In fact, if they want to find a sailboat they WILL find that sailboat.
Not this plane?
In fact, that's actually not the worst thing about this. The fact that NO ONE in the US government has said jack shit about this missing plane.
Why haven't there been people in the government actually coming out and either offering help or saying "We can tell you that the plane was last seen going in this X direction" because I KNOW for A FACT they can DO IT.
Seriously.... if the US had something to do with this, why? Was there some passenger on that plane they REALLY wanted? A Chinese citizen? An American "spy"?
Of the 11 items pulled out of the ocean, NOTHING has anything to do with that plane. (Means it didn't crash there where they are saying?)
The black box stops pinging Saturday, if the battery goes when it is believed it will go. (Means they haven't HEARD it yet... meaning they aren't even CLOSE yet).
This part of the article is what gets me most of all:
Exif can't be rewritten with common software, it can only be added to in fields such as image credits with some advanced applications. It can be erased as well but NOT CHANGED. Photos with the exif intact will hold up in court. If the Exif is hacked and this is not real, the CIA or a really good hacker did this, which I doubt, I'd say it's probably real.
Also, until Malsua brought this up, I had NOT heard this at all. Nothing. I don't usually dig on conspiracy pages these days, and I sometimes DO read "Beforeitsnews" to capture certain articles (that are also sourced in other places). But I hadn't seen anything, so this was new to me.
Lastly, I'll post an article in a minute about this... I don't know the guy, the site or anything else.
But, I KNOW that the US Government knows where that plane went. I know it because... I KNOW it.
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This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by an IBM engineer. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it’s real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it’s authenticity. Diego Garcia is big enough to have a runway be hard to see in full frame pictures of the island, so a 3 mile radius fits.
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