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    When I was there I remember some vague stories about "green boots" but I didn't know they were still attached to someone! Sheesh.

    I went up part way to one of the base camps, but I think the "base camp" is about 16k feet or something. Didn't go that high. lol

    We turned around and went back down after walking the first part of it. Jimmy Carter was going up and I was there about two weeks setting up HF equipment, flew back into China and then ran a trip in Chengdu....
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    Green Boots died in 1996, so it's not the same guy.

    I just can't believe they leave bodies up there. I mean, I realize how hard it would be to get them down, but it seems to me that the priority should be at least getting the nearby corpses off the mountain. This particular one is right by the trail.

    Tow him out a bit and gravity will do most of the work.

    Either that or perhaps a remotely controlled balloon that could loft him out of there and get guided down to the bottom.
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    Green Boots


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    Then I've got the stories I heard confused from there.

    I don't know, was a long damned time ago.

    I thought when someone died, they brought them down though.

    I think I probably heard the green boots story later and they were talking about people having died up there and being left (and I DO remember something about people being used as landmarks though) so probably heard the green boots story later and thought they were referring to someone else then.

    Either way, it's wrong to leave dead guys up there. I mean they did that to the poor guy with the bow and spear and shit and now he's an archeological artifact (LOL)
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    Someone will find Green Boots thousands of years from now, see that '90s attire, and wonder WTF we were thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Ruck View Post
    Someone will find Green Boots thousands of years from now, see that '90s attire, and wonder WTF we were thinking.
    What a way to go...freezing to death up where no one can help you. Seems like they should run some power cables up there and have oxygen huts with warmth and coffee (or yaks milk and butter)
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    Hey, you can't climb a mountain in comfort!

    What are you thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    Hey, you can't climb a mountain in comfort!

    What are you thinking?
    I'm thinking that they could run some cables and put in an Oxygen bar and a warming hut
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    Why, that's just insane! InSANE!

    lol
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    M6.2 - FIJI REGION

    Preliminary Earthquake Report
    Magnitude 6.2
    Date-Time
    • 28 Apr 2015 16:39:38 UTC
    • 28 Apr 2015 04:39:39 near epicenter
    • 28 Apr 2015 09:39:38 standard time in your timezone
    Location 20.916S 178.656W
    Depth 579 km
    Distances
    • 29 km (18 mi) S of Ndoi Island, Fiji
    • 360 km (223 mi) W of Nuku`alofa, Tonga
    • 432 km (268 mi) SE of Suva, Fiji
    • 537 km (333 mi) SE of Nadi, Fiji
    • 539 km (334 mi) SSE of Lambasa, Fiji
    Location Uncertainty Horizontal: 9.4 km; Vertical 4.2 km
    Parameters Nph = 186; Dmin = 492.7 km; Rmss = 1.08 seconds; Gp = 28°
    Version =
    Event ID us 200029x8
    For updates, maps, and technical information, see: Event Page or USGS Earthquake Hazards Program
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    Looks like Nepal had another 7.3 earthquake.

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    Ouch. Damn, they can't catch a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    Ouch. Damn, they can't catch a break.
    Eh? They caught 2 very big breaks.
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    hehehe
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    Speaking of breaks....huge meteor whizzing past on Thursday. It's several million miles away, but would wipe about 1/3rd of the humans off the map if it vectors in.

    Which suggests to me, what if we were to find something, oh, say a few hundred feet in diameter and deorbit it to land, in oh, say the SW side of Saudi Arabia.

    It'd essentially end SLAMI.
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    Very true.

    When the human races starts lobbing asteroids at other races (or themselves) we're doomed though.


    The bad part about dropping as asteroid on your own planet is that the whole planet can be affected.

    But, imagine the USAF able to do that! haha
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    Earthquakes On Hawaii Volcano Could Signal New Eruption

    May 16, 2015

    A series of earthquakes and shifting ground on the slopes of Kilauea have scientists wondering what will happen next at one of the world's most active volcanos.

    A lake of lava near the summit of Kilauea on Hawaii's Big Island had risen to a record-high level after a recent explosion. But in the past few days, the pool of molten rock began sinking, and the surface of the lava lake fell nearly 500 feet.

    Meanwhile, a rash of earthquakes rattled the volcano with as many as 20 to 25 quakes per hour, and scientists' tilt meters detected that the ground was deforming.

    "Clearly the lava, by dropping out of sight, it has to be going somewhere," said Steven Brantley, deputy scientist in charge of Hawaiian Volcano Observatory of the U.S. Geological Survey.

    One possibility is that a new lava eruption could break through the surface of the mountain, Brantley said.

    Right now, there are two active eruptions on Kilauea. One is the eruption spewing into the lava lake in the Halemaumau Crater, which is visible in Hawaii Volcanoes National Park. The other is Puu Oo vent, in Kilauea's east rift zone, which sent fingers of lava toward the town of Pahoa before stopping outside a shopping center last year.

    The flurry of earthquakes that peaked in intensity Friday have been rattling Kilauea's southwest rift zone, so it's possible that a new eruption could occur southwest of the Halemaumau Crater, or even in the crater itself, Brentley said. Or, the tilting, shifting ground could lead to nothing.

    "We don't know what the outcome of this activity might be," Brantley said. "That is the challenge, is trying to interpret what this activity really means in terms of the next step for Kilauea."

    An eruption on the southwest side wouldn't pose a threat to the population, because the area is generally closed to the public and there aren't any structures.

    The earthquake activity had slowed Saturday morning, and scientists were continuing to watch the volcano closely, Brantley said.

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    5 Major Earthquakes In 48 Hours As A Seismologist Warns ‘Catastrophic Mega Earthquakes’ Are Coming

    By Michael Snyder, on April 14th, 2016



    Why is the crust of the Earth shaking so violently all of a sudden? Over the past 48 hours, there have been five major earthquakes globally, and one prominent seismologist has declared that “catastrophic mega earthquakes” could be on the way. In fact, seismologist Roger Bilham of the University of Colorado has made headlines all over the world by warning that “current conditions might trigger at least four earthquakes greater than 8.0 in magnitude”. If his projections are accurate, our planet could be on the precipice of a wave of natural disasters unlike anything that any of us have ever experienced before.

    Since the beginning of 2016, south Asia has been hit by an unusually high number of large earthquakes, and this has scientists groping for an explanation. The following comes from the Express
    Scientists say there has been an above average number of significant earthquakes across south Asia and the Pacific since the start of the year.
    The increased frequency has sparked fears of a repeat of the Nepal quake of 2015, when 8,000 people died, or even worse.
    Roger Bilham, seismologist of University of Colorado, said: “The current conditions might trigger at least four earthquakes greater than 8.0 in magnitude.
    And if they delay, the strain accumulated during the centuries provokes more catastrophic mega earthquakes.”
    A single magnitude 8.0 earthquake in a populated area would be a disaster of historic proportions.

    If we were to see four of them like Roger Bilham is projecting, that would be a complete and utter nightmare.

    It is important to keep in mind that a magnitude 8.0 earthquake would be many, many times larger than the twin earthquakes that hit Japan earlier today
    A devastating 6.4-magnitude earthquake has struck Japan hours after a first which killed at least three and injured 19 others.
    The quakes, which struck the south-western island of Kyushu, leveled more than a dozen homes, sparked fires and trapped several people under collapsed buildings.
    Around 350 military personnel have been dispatched to aid the rescue effort, said Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga.

    The first earthquake, measuring 6.5-magnitude, hit the south-east Asian country late on Friday, local time, according to the Japan Meteorological Agency.
    On Thursday we also saw a magnitude 6.5 earthquake hit Vanuatu, and a magnitude 5.9 earthquake shook the southern Philippines
    A 5.9 magnitude earthquake hit off the coast of Mindanao early Thursday, April 14, seismologists said, with no damage or casualties immediately reported and no tsunami warning issued. The quake occurred at 2:21 am (1821 GMT Wednesday) off the coast of Zamboanga del Norte, with its epicenter at a depth of 15 kilometers, the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) said.
    And of course on Wednesday a huge magnitude 6.9 earthquake caused tremendous devastation in Myanmar
    A magnitude 6.9 earthquake struck Myanmar on Wednesday, causing tremors around the region, including in neighboring Bangladesh where scores were reported injured in stampedes and buildings were damaged. The quake, which took place at a depth of 134 kilometers (83 miles), hit some 400 kilometers northwest of Myanmar’s capital Naypyidaw, according to the US Geological Survey (USGS), and was also felt in parts of India and China. There were no immediate reports of casualties, although the region where the earthquake hit has poor communications infrastructure like many of Myanmar’s outlying provinces.
    So why is this happening?

    Why is Asia shaking so violently all of a sudden?

    And does this shaking bode ill for other areas along the “Ring of Fire” including the west coast of the United States?

    I think that it is important to point out that all of this shaking did not just begin this week. In fact, ever since the start of this calendar year there has been a lot of unusual earthquake activity all over Asia
    Just four days ago, on April 10, six people died in Pakistan when a 6.6-magnitude quake hit Kabul with aftershocks in India
    Two days before, on April 8, there was a magnitude 4.2 earthquake in Nepal.
    Nepal had suffered a larger 5.5 magnitude one on February 22.
    A month before, on January 20, there was a 6.1-magnitude earthquake in China, and 16 days earlier 11 people died when a 6.7-magnitude earthquake hit Manipur in India.
    In addition, let us not forget about all of the volcanic eruptions that have been in the news in recent weeks.

    According to Volcano Discovery, 38 volcanoes around the globe are erupting right now. This is definitely an unusually high number.

    In Matthew 24, Jesus warned us that there would be earthquakes in “divers places” just prior to His return. This is something that I discuss quite a bit in my new book. If we truly are in the times that the Bible refers to as “the last days”, we should expect the shaking of our planet to continue to intensify.

    If seismologist Roger Bilham is right and we do begin to see a series of absolutely massive earthquakes, that could dramatically change the course of world events literally overnight.

    Even a single magnitude 8.0 earthquake in a major city in Japan, China or the United States would cause global markets to crash and would mean billions of dollars in economic damage.

    So let us hope that the crust of our planet begins to stabilize, but let us also not ignore the warnings of the scientists.

    What they are warning us about right now lines up perfectly with what Jesus warned us about nearly 2000 years ago, and that is a very sobering thing to consider.

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    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...504-story.html

    San Andreas fault 'locked, loaded and ready to roll' with big earthquake, expert says


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    Southern California’s section of the San Andreas fault is “locked, loaded and ready to roll,” a leading earthquake scientist said Wednesday at the National Earthquake Conference in Long Beach.
    The San Andreas fault is one of California’s most dangerous, and is the state’s longest fault. Yet for Southern California, the last big earthquake to strike the southern San Andreas was in 1857, when a magnitude 7.9 earthquake ruptured an astonishing 185 miles between Monterey County and the San Gabriel Mountains near Los Angeles.
    It has been quiet since then — too quiet, said Thomas Jordan, director of the Southern California Earthquake Center.
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    “The springs on the San Andreas system have been wound very, very tight. And the southern San Andreas fault, in particular, looks like it’s locked, loaded and ready to go,” Jordan said in the opening keynote talk.
    Other sections of the San Andreas fault also are far overdue for a big quake. Further southeast of the Cajon Pass, such as in San Bernardino County, the fault has not moved substantially since an earthquake in 1812, and further southeast toward the Salton Sea, it has been relatively quiet since about 1680 to 1690.
    Here’s the problem: Scientists have observed that based on the movement of tectonic plates, with the Pacific plate moving northwest of the North American plate, earthquakes should be relieving about 16 feet of accumulated plate movement every 100 years. Yet the San Andreas has not relieved stress that has been building up for more than a century.
    Jordan said it’s important that California focus on becoming resilient to a potential huge earthquake, one as strong as a magnitude 8. He praised Los Angeles’ plan to require earthquake retrofits on apartment and concrete buildings, pushed into law by Mayor Eric Garcetti.
    “It’s remarkable that this happened,” Jordan said. “We know politically how difficult it is to make these kinds of changes.”
    Other areas of focus have included strengthening Los Angeles’ vulnerable aqueduct systems and its telecommunications networks.
    A 2008 U.S. Geological Survey report warned that a magnitude 7.8 earthquake on the southern San Andreas fault would cause more than 1,800 deaths, 50,000 injuries, $200 billion in damage and severe, long-lasting disruptions. Among the predicted problems: The sewer system could be out of commission for six months.
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    Such an earthquake could cause shaking for nearly two minutes, with the strongest shaking in the Coachella Valley, Inland Empire and Antelope Valley, but it also could send pockets of strong shaking into areas where sediments trap shaking waves, such as the San Gabriel Valley and East Los Angeles.
    The devastating potential of the fault became clear with a 1857 temblor, which had an estimated magnitude of 7.9. It became known as the Fort Tejon quake. The name is something of a misnomer because it started farther north, way up in Parkfield in Monterey County. The quake then barreled south on the San Andreas for about 185 miles, through Fort Tejon near the northern edge of Los Angeles County, then east toward the Cajon Pass in San Bernardino County, near what is now the 15 Freeway.
    The quake was so powerful that the soil liquefied, causing trees as far away as Stockton to sink. Trees were also uprooted west of Fort Tejon. The shaking lasted 1 to 3 minutes.
    Even though the San Andreas fault does not go directly into Los Angeles — it is 30 miles away from downtown — the city is expected to be heavily shaken by a large earthquake on that fault. For instance, simulations of a possible magnitude 7.8 quake on the San Andreas fault that begins at the Salton Sea and spreads west toward the San Gabriel mountains show seismic shaking waves "bent into the Los Angeles area," Jordan said. One video shows strong ground-shaking stretching from northern San Diego County to Barstow.
    Using the world's largest supercomputer at the time, the Southern California Earthquake Center in 2010 unveiled a simulated magnitude 8 earthquake that begins in Monterey County, like in 1857, but travels even farther south, heading toward the Mexican border. The L.A. Basin and the San Fernando Valley would be hit hard because the shaking would be trapped by soft soils in the valley and basin.
    "You can see that this area of influence by the shaking has now expanded out to huge proportions," Jordan said. "You see that big directivity pulse out in front, as that energy is being shoved down that fault, that directivity pulse leads energy into seismic waves that excite the sedimentary basins, like the San Fernando Valley and the Los Angeles Basin," and through San Bernardino, Jordan said.
    "You'll notice large shaking in the Los Angeles region persisting for long periods of time," he said.
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