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    The pilot of a Jordanian fighter that was shot down a few months back has been confirmed dead.

    Not only was he killed, he was BURNED ALIVE by these fucking savages.

    For anyone who still is apologizing for ISIS and Islam... get over yourselves fast because a lot of us aren't going to take this shit any more.

    It WILL NOT HAPPEN IN AMERICA. I promise that the first time some ass wipe who is a Muslim kills an innocent in this country that it won't go unpunished.

    Islam IS NOT a religion.

    Islam is NOT the "religion of peace".

    Islam is NOT a race.

    Islam is a way of life and I don't give a fuck if you think you're a "moderate" - there are no such things as moderates.

    If you believe yourself to be a moderate then you need to step forward and condemn these people. Do it now. Do it today. Or suffer the consequences.
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    Islamic State video shows Jordanian pilot being burned alive






    WASHINGTON — The Islamic State purportedly released a video Tuesday showing a Jordanian pilot held captive by the group being burned alive just days after the militants beheaded a Japanese journalist.


    The video, which could not be independently verified, was released by the Islamic State's media arm, according to the IntelCenter, which monitors extremist websites. It shows Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh, who was captured by the Islamic State in December after his aircraft crashed over Syria.


    The tape — produced by the al-Furqan Media Foundation — marks the first time a high profile hostage has been killed by fire, IntelCenter said in a statement. In the past, hostages have been beheaded or shot.


    "It shows how the group is continually evolving its methods to gain the maximum exposure for its actions," the statement said.


    The White House said the intelligence community is working to confirm the video's authenticity and called on the Islamic State to release all captives being held by the militants.


    The 22 minute, 34 second video titled Healing of the Believers' Chests shows media footage of Jordan's involvement in the U.S.-led coalition against the Islamic State and then shows al-Kaseasbeh — bearing a black eye — discussing Jordan's operations in a news-style monologue.


    Afterward, the video goes back and forth between shots of al-Kaseasbeh surrounded by fighters and shots of the aftermath of bombings. At the end of the video, al-Kaseasbeh stands inside a cage and is burned alive by the militants.


    Last week, Jordan's government agreed to release an al-Qaeda prisoner in exchange for the pilot's safe return, but the deal fell through.


    The Islamic State had sought the release of Sajida al-Rishawi, an Iraqi woman facing execution for her role in triple hotel bombings in Jordan in 2005. In an audio message last week, the group said the pilot would be killed if al-Rishawi was not released by sunset Thursday. That deadline passed, and Jordan said it wanted proof the pilot was still alive before releasing her.


    On Sunday, government spokesman Mohammed al-Momani Jordan is "still ready to hand over" al-Rishawi in return for the pilot.
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    Obama is a fuck up and a fuck off.

    He mentioned these murders as "this organization".

    "We THINK" we're going to double our efforts?

    "Whatever ideology"??????????????????????

    Obama... you should not be president. You are not an American.
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    ISIS posts photos purportedly showing Jordanian pilot burnt alive

    Joran confirms pilot dead after horrifying images claim to show Islamic State setting captive Jordanian on fire as he is held in metallic cage, surrounded by fighters; Jordan says pilot was killed on January 3.
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    ISIS released a video Tuesday purportedly showing the burning alive of a Jordanian pilot it had captured in December. The Jordanian government confirmed on Tuesday that Islamic State militants had killed a captive Jordanian pilot and said this had happened on Jan. 3, state television reported.




    Supporters of the Islamic State group circulated photos on social media on Tuesday purporting to show captive Jordanian pilot Muath al-Kasaesbeh being burnt alive.



    One of images published by group

    The head of the Jordanian armed forces told the family of a Jordanian pilot held captive by Islamic State insurgents that he had been killed, a relative told Reuters.

    Reuters could not immediately confirm the five images, which showed a burning man standing in a black cage. Kasaesbeh has been in Islamic State captivity since his plane crashed over Syria in December. The video released online showed images of a man purported to be Moaz al-Kassasbeh engulfed in flames inside a metal cage.


    Moaz al-Kassasbeh

    US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday a video purporting to show Islamic State burning a Jordanian pilot hostage alive, if authenticated, would be another sign of the "viciousness and barbarity" of the militant group.

    "Whatever ideology they're operating off of, it's bankrupt," Obama told reporters, noting the video would redouble the determination of the US-led coalition fighting the group in Syria and Iraq.

    Jordan vowed Sunday to do all it could to save the airman after the terror group killed a Japanese journalist they had been holding as it attempted to confirm the pilot was still alive after an earlier deadline had passed without word from the radical group.

    The kingdom "will do everything it can to save the life and secure the release of its pilot," Maaz al-Kassasbeh, who was captured by the jihadis after his plane crashed in Syria in December, government spokesman Mohammad al-Momeni told the official Petra news agency.

    ISIS has been demanding the release of a convicted Iraqi jihadi on death row in Jordan in exchange for Kassasbeh's life, a demand the government has expressed readiness to accept provided it is given proof he is still alive.

    "All state organizations have been mobilized to secure the proof of life that we require so that he can be freed and returned to his home," Momeni said.

    He condemned the jihadis' murder of Japanese journalist Kenji Goto after days of intensive efforts through intermediaries to save him.

    "We spared no effort, in coordination with the Japanese government, to save his life," Momeni said.

    Jordan further said it was still ready to hand over a jailed Iraqi militant to Islamic State in a swap deal if the pilot was released even after the killing of the second Japanese hostage ."We are still ready to hand over the convict Sajida al-Rishawi in return for the return of our son and our hero," Momani further said.

    Goto was the second Japanese hostage in a week to be executed by the jihadis in what they have said is punishment for Tokyo's pledge of $200 million (175 million euro) in aid to countries affected by its bloody seizure of swathes of Iraq and Syria last year.

    Last week, ISIS claimed responsibility for the beheading of Haruna Yukawa after the expiration of a 72-hour ultimatum.

    ISIS has demanded the release of Sajida al-Rishawi, who was sentenced to death for her role in the 2005 bombings of three Amman hotels by Al-Qaeda in Iraq which killed 60 people.


    Her husband was one of the three suicide bombers and the court found that she had would have been a fourth but for the failure of her detonator.

    AP and Reuters contributed to this report.
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    I won't post the images. But I'll show this:


    Image of buring published by Islamic State
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    If this doesn't spur Jordan into all out war against these barbarians I don't know what will.

    I don't understand why the Japanese haven't gone in there already.
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    Cathrine Herriage just described the video. She's a tough cookie. And she almost lost it describing it.
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    Josh Not-Earnest admitted today there are "other American's being held hostage today".


    Really?

    GET THEM THE FUCK OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Send in the fucking US Marine Corps, SOF and USAF to bomb the FUCK out of these people and get our people out.
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    Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Lt Moaz al-Kasasbeh had been held hostage since his plane came down on 24 December
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    A video published online by Islamic State (IS) militants claims to show Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh being burned alive.
    The video, which could not immediately be verified, shows a man standing in a cage and engulfed in flames.
    Lt Moaz al-Kasasbeh was captured when his plane came down near Raqqa, Syria, in December on a mission to support the US-led military coalition against IS.
    Jordanian state TV confirmed the death and said he was killed a month ago.
    The video posted online on Tuesday was distributed via a Twitter account known as a source for IS propaganda.
    A relative of Lt Kasasbeh told Reuters news agency that the Jordanian armed forces had informed the family that he had been killed.
    The BBC's Frank Gardner says that the video is clearly intended to shock.
    The highly produced 22-minute film includes a sequence showing the Jordanian pilot walking at gunpoint amongst rubble apparently caused by coalition air strikes that targeted jihadists.
    Jordan had been attempting to secure Lt Kasasbeh's release as part of a prisoner swap.
    It had offered to free Sajida al-Rishawi, who is on death row in Jordan for her role in hotel bombings in Amman in 2005, in return for the release of Lt Kasasbeh.
    The video emerged three days after another video appeared to show the dead body of Japanese hostage Kenji Goto.
    The US state department said it was working to confirm the authenticity of the video.
    US President Barack Obama said in a statement that if the video was real, it would be "one more indication of the viciousness and barbarity" of IS.
    "I think it will redouble the vigilance and determination of the part of the global coalition to make sure they are degraded and ultimately defeated," he added.

    Kevin Connolly, BBC Middle East Correspondent Relatives had gathered around Lt Kasasbeh's father (centre) in Amman
    The male members of the al-Kasasbeh family had been gathering every day at a community centre not far from the royal palace in Amman. Cousins, brothers and uncles maintained a vigil of support for Moaz's father, who sat anxious but dignified in a red chequered headdress and long flowing black robe.
    After the murder of Japanese journalist Kenji Goto the mood darkened, and one of the pilot's uncles, retired police general Fahd al-Kasasbeh, was close to tears as he asked the BBC to help relay a direct appeal to the hostage takers.
    There were family members who hoped Lt Kasasbeh would be treated with lenience because he was a Muslim, while others feared he'd be harshly dealt with as an enemy pilot. And all along on both sides of the argument was the nagging fear that no proof of life was received, no photographs and no video.
    The family's reaction, of course, will be one of deep grief and distress. But in wider Jordanian society, there will be pressure for the government to hit back. An implicit threat to speed up the execution of IS prisoners in Jordanian jails, where some are already on death row, may now be carried out.
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    Jordan has confirmed the pilot's death.

    King of Jordan will be holding some kind of conference.

    Jordan has "vowed revenge".

    Why do we, as American's never "vow revenge"?

    Game changer here guys. Think about this carefully.

    International law, Geneva Conventions for instance - states you do not murder prisoners of war. Specifically when you take prisoners, you do NOT kill and murder them. You treat them humanely - something all the bitching has been about with our own prisoners from the Taliban for instance.

    They have stepped over the boundaries of international law, they have gone beyond the pale in murdering, on camera, in a most gruesome way, a pilot who was supporting American troops.

    This is not going to bode well for ISIS, but at the same time it's not going to bode well for all those countries over in the Middle East. A violence Islamist movement to destroy western civilization is afoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    A violence Islamist movement to destroy western civilization is afoot.
    ...and Obama is not only allowing it to happen, but facilitating its progress directly and indirectly.

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    Jordan has decided the video was done a month ago. 10 Days after his capture.
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    Bomber who is held (woman) will be executed TOMORROW (in retaliation).
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    President of Jordan was just on TV. Refused to make comments right now.

    Jordan has said “While the military forces mourn the martyr, they emphasize his blood will not be shed in vain. Our punishment and revenge will be as huge as the loss of the Jordanians,” Mamdouh al Ameri, a government spokesman, said in a statement read on Jordanian TV.

    Jordan has been attacked by terrorists for years. They will not say this shit in vain.


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    Breaking News: ISIS arrests. More to follow if I have time. Canada just now. Today's arrest is connected to the arrests in January.
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    France just made some arrests in the last couple of days as well. Cells sending people to fight overseas....
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    Jordan hangs 2 terrorists, vows 'earth-shaking' response to grisly ISIS video

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    Jordan hanged two terrorists early Wednesday, in a swift response to the release of a video showing ISIS burning alive a captured air force pilot, and vowed an “earth-shaking” response to the terror group’s sadistic slaughter.
    Jordan's King Abdullah, who was in Washington for a diplomatic mission when the video depicting the horrific death of Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh hit the Internet, met with lawmakers and then President Obama after getting word of Al-Kaseasbeh's death. Although the meetings were private, lawmakers said Abdullah, a former military general and special forces commander who has ruled the Arab nation since his father's death in 1999, was angry and resolute.
    "He said there is going to be retribution like ISIS hasn’t seen,” said Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr., R-Calif., a Marine Corps veteran of two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, who was in the meeting with the king. “He mentioned ‘Unforgiven’ and he mentioned Clint Eastwood, and he actually quoted a part of the movie.”
    The retribution began even before King Abdullah returned to Amman, as Jordan executed two key Iraqi Al Qaeda operatives at dawn Wednesday. One was Sajida al-Rishawi, a woman who had been sentenced to death after her 2005 role in a triple hotel bombing that killed 60 people in Amman. The other was Ziad al-Karbouly, an Iraqi who served as an aide to Al Qaeda in Iraq founder Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
    Jordan, a member of the U.S.-led coalition that has been striking ISIS in Syria since this past September, had previously indicated it was considering an offer from Islamic State to trade Al-Rishawi for the pilot, but reports yesterday said the pilot had been dead for a month. The ghastly video sparked outrage on the streets of Jordan, a small nation of 6 million that shares borders with Syria and Iraq, where Islamic State has carved out its so-called caliphate. King Abdullah vowed to focus his people's anger on the terrorist army.
    Hunter would not say which part of “Unforgiven” the king quoted, but said it is clear the U.S. and Oxford-educated king plans to take the fight to Islamic State.
    “He’s angry,” Hunter said. “They’re starting more sorties tomorrow than they’ve ever had. They’re starting tomorrow. And he said, ‘The only problem we’re going to have is running out of fuel and bullets.'”
    In a statement, Jordan's army vowed an "earth-shaking" response “proportionate to the magnitude of the tragedy of all Jordanians.” And government spokesman Mohammad Momani said that Jordan’s response to the assassination “will be swift. Jordanians’ wrath will devastate Daesh’s ranks.”
    In Jordan, al-Kaseasbeh's capture on Dec. 24 sparked debate about whether the nation should be participating in the airstrikes against Islamic State and if an exchange of prisoners was warranted. Jordan repeatedly sought proof that the pilot was still alive, and at times expressed frustration at the lack of communication. But news the pilot had likely been dead all along sparked rage in a nation that reveres its military.
    Al-Kaseasbeh's father, Safi al-Kaseasbeh, who met with King Abdullah at least twice following his son's capture, said the king told him he valued Kaseasbeh like his own son.
    “The King told me that he was following up personally on Muath’s case," the grieving father told the Jordan Times. "He said Crown Prince Hussein, may God protect him, is no dearer to me than Muath.”
    In the video, viewed by Fox News, Al-Kaseasbeh, showing signs of having been beaten and clad in an orange jumpsuit, speaks under clear duress. A narrator speaking in Arabic blasts Arab nations, including Jordan, for taking part in U.S.-led airstrikes against ISIS. The final five minutes of the video show the caged pilot, his clothing apparently doused in gasoline as the fuel is lit. His screams are audible as he collapses to his knees. After being killed, the burned man and the cage are buried by a bulldozer. The video ends with ISIS offering "100 golden Dinars" for any Muslims in Jordan who kills other Jordanian pilots, whose names, pictures and hometowns are shown.
    Sources told Fox News it demonstrated the highest production values of any tape to date, suggesting it took considerable time to shoot and produce.
    President Obama condemned the murder of the pilot before meeting privately with the king, saying the atrocity would "redouble the vigilance and determination on the part of our global coalition to make sure they are degraded and ultimately defeated."
    "It's just one more indication of the viciousness and barbarity of this organization," Obama said. "And I think it will redouble the vigilance and determination on the part of the global coalition to make sure that they are degraded and ultimately defeated.”
    "Lieutenant Al-Kaseasbeh's dedication, courage and service to his country and family represent universal human values that stand in opposition to the cowardice and depravity of ISIL, which has been so broadly rejected around the globe," Obama said, using another acronym for the terror group.
    Jordan faces increasing threats from the militants. Jordan borders areas of the group's self-declared caliphate in Syria and Iraq, while there are have been signs of greater support for the group's militant ideas among Jordan's young and poor.
    After word spread that the pilot had been killed, dozens of people chanting slogans against the Islamic State group marched toward the royal palace to express their anger. Waving a Jordanian flag, they chanted, "Damn you, Daesh!" -- using the Arabic acronym of the group -- and "We will avenge, we will avenge our son's blood."
    "There is no religion [that] accepts such act," Amman resident Hassan Abu Ali said. "Islam is a religion of tolerance. (ISIS) have nothing to do with Islam. This is [a] criminal act."
    Jordanian Army spokesman Mamdouh al-Ameri said the country would strike back hard. "Our punishment and revenge will be as huge as the loss of the Jordanians," he said.
    Protesters marched in the pilot's home village of Ai and set a local government office on fire. Witnesses said the atmosphere was tense and that riot police patrolled the streets.
    The pilot's father, Safi Yousef al-Kaseasbeh, was attending a tribal meeting in Amman when news of the video surfaced, and he was seen being led from the session. Other men were seen outside, overcome with emotion.
    The Islamic State group has released a series of gruesome videos showing the beheading of captives, including two American journalists, an American aid worker and two British aid workers. Tuesday's was the first to show a captive being burned alive.
    David L. Phillips, a former State Department adviser on the Middle East, said he believes the pilot's killing could backfire, antagonizing Sunnis against the extremists, including Sunni tribes in Iraq.
    "They need to have a welcome from Sunni Arabs in Anbar Province [in Iraq] to maintain their operations," said Phillips, director of the Program on Peace-building and Human Rights at Columbia University.
    He said the extremist group's recent military setbacks may have fueled the killings. "They need to compensate for that with increasingly gruesome killings of prisoners," he said.
    The latest video was released three days after another video showed the purported beheading of a Japanese journalist, Kenji Goto, who was captured by the Islamic State group in October.
    The militants had linked the fates of the pilot and the journalist. A second Japanese hostage was apparently killed earlier last month.
    The U.N. Security Council, in a statement, condemned the "brutality of ISIL, which is responsible for thousands of crimes and abuses against people from all faiths, ethnicities and nationalities, and without regard to any basic value of humanity."
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    Jordanian king vows 'relentless' war on Islamic State's own ground

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    (Reuters) - Jordan's King Abdullah vowed a "relentless" war against Islamic State on their own territory on Wednesday in response to a video published by the hard-line group showing a captured Jordanian pilot being burned alive in a cage.
    Jordan hanged two Iraqi jihadists, one a woman, on Wednesday and vowed to intensify military action against Islamic State.
    "We are waging this war to protect our faith, our values and human principles and our war for their sake will be relentless and will hit them in their own ground," state television quoted the king as saying during a security meeting.
    Jordan, which is part of the U.S.-led alliance against Islamic State, had promised an "earth-shaking response" to the killing of its pilot, Mouath al-Kasaesbeh, who was captured in December when his F-16 warplane crashed over northeastern Syria.
    Government spokesman Mohammad al-Momani said on Wednesday: "We are talking about a collaborative effort between coalition members to intensify efforts to stop extremism and terrorism to undermine, degrade and eventually finish Daesh." Daesh is used as a derogatory Arabic term for Islamic State.
    He said it was a continuation of Jordan's long standing policy in fighting hard-line Islamist militants and that King Abdullah, who cut short a trip to the United States, headed a meeting with senior security officials on Wednesday.
    "All the state's military and security agencies are developing their options. Jordan's response will be heard by the world at large but this response on the security and military level will be announced at the appropriate time," Momani said.
    Islamic State had demanded the release of Sajida al-Rishawi in exchange for a Japanese hostage whom it later beheaded. Sentenced to death for her role in a 2005 suicide bomb attack in Amman, Rishawi was executed at dawn.
    Jordan also executed a senior al Qaeda prisoner, Ziyad Karboli, an Iraqi man who was sentenced to death in 2008.
    The Jordanian pilot was the first from the coalition known to have been captured and killed by Islamic State.
    Jordan is a major U.S. ally in the fight against hardline Islamist groups and hosted U.S. troops during operations that led to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. It is home to hundreds of U.S. military trainers bolstering defenses at the Syrian and Iraqi borders, and is determined to keep the jihadists in Syria away from its frontier.
    CALLS FOR REVENGE
    The fate of Kasaesbeh, a member of a large tribe that forms the backbone of support for the country's Hashemite monarchy, has gripped Jordan for weeks.
    Some Jordanians had criticized the king for embroiling them in the U.S.-led war that they said would provoke a militant backlash but the pilot's killing produced a wave of outrage and calls for revenge.
    Jordan's authorities have not commented on how many missions the air force has carried out against Islamic State.
    In a televised statement to the nation, the king urged national unity and said the killing was a cowardly act of terror by a criminal group that has no relation to Islam.
    Muslim clerics across the Middle East, even those sympathetic to the jihadist cause, also expressed outrage, saying such a form of killing was considered despicable by Islam.
    President Barack Obama's nominee for defense secretary Ashton Carter on Wednesday vowed to understand and resolve reported delays in U.S. arms sales to Jordan.
    There was widespread shock and anger across Jordan at the brutality of a killing that drew international condemnation.
    The European Union combined a statement of solidarity with Jordan over the killing of the pilots with criticism of its immediate execution of two Iraqi jihadists.
    Kasaesbeh's father said the two executions were not enough and urged the government to do more to avenge his death.
    "I want the state to get revenge for my son's blood through more executions of those people who follow this criminal group that shares nothing with Islam," Safi al-Kasaesbeh told Reuters.
    Islamic State has seized large areas of Iraq and Syria, Jordan's neighbors to the north and east.
    In the pilot's home village of Ay, mourners said Jordanians must rally around the state. "Today we put our differences behind us and rally behind the king and nation," said Jabar Sarayrah, a shopkeeper.
    DAWN EXECUTION
    The prisoners were executed in Swaqa prison, 70 km (45 miles) south of Amman, just before dawn, a security source who was familiar with the case said. "They were both calm and showed no emotions and just prayed," he added without elaborating.
    Rishawi, in her mid-forties, was part of an al Qaeda network that targeted three Amman hotels in suicide bombings in 2005. She was meant to die in one of the attacks - the worst in Jordan's history - but her suicide bomb belt did not go off.
    Only two other prisoners are on death row in Jordan - Mohammad Hassan al Sahli, a Syrian who was convicted of plotting and executing a rocket attack in August 2005 against a U.S. navy vessel and the Israeli port city of Eilat, and Jordanian Muamar Jaghbeer, a leading al Qaeda operative.
    There are at least 250 Islamist militants in prison, almost half of them were arrested in the past year and are Islamic State sympathizers.
    Jordan said on Tuesday the pilot had been killed a month ago. The government had been picking up intelligence for weeks that the pilot was killed some time ago, a source close to the government said.
    "The horror of the killing, the method of killing is probably going to generate more short-term support for the state," said a Western diplomat. "But once that horror dies down, inevitably some of the questions revert on Jordan’s role in the coalition."
    The Syrian government condemned the killing and urged Jordan to cooperate with it in a fight against Islamic State and the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front in Syria. The United States has ruled out Syria as a partner in the campaign against Islamic State, describing President Bashar al-Assad as part of the problem.
    The executed woman came from Iraq's Anbar province bordering Jordan. Her tribal Iraqi relatives were close aides of the slain Jordanian leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, from whose group Islamic State emerged.
    Islamic State had demanded her release in exchange for the life of Japanese journalist Kenji Goto. However, Goto was beheaded by the group, video released last Saturday showed.
    Jordan had insisted that they would only release the woman as part of a deal to free the pilot.
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    You know it's time for a prediction.

    Jordan is planning a war against ISIS.

    Jordan doesn't have a military capable of defeating them on the ground, and Muslims aren't actually all that brave and courageous.

    The King might order a war, but who will go? Who knows?

    So - IF THEY DO go after them and start winning (I don't really see that happening but, bear with me a moment) then I predict that Obama will say something like "Ah, see we helped them and we're winning the war on terror. These terrorists have been defeated. Mission accomplished."

    He absolutely will SPIN any victory by anyone who is Muslim to benefit HIM PERSONALLY in some manner.

    He is the biggest lying, piece of crap on the planet. He lied about the IRS, he lied about Obamacare, he lied about everything else. He's told lies to get his way. He's played stupid. His administration has played stupid in front of Congress. He lied about Benghazi, about terrorism, about ISIS, about NSA spying on Americans, he's lied time and time again to get his way or make himself look better.

    I can't BELIEVE America has stood for him and his BS.

    I am betting the new Sec Def they are trying to confirm won't last long under Obama, or he will "change" after he's confirmed in office.
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    Opinion: Islamic State Brutality Could Backfire




    Supporters and family members of Jordanian pilot, Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh, express their anger at his reported killing in Amman, Jordan, February, 3, 2015.



    February 04, 2015 10:06 AM






    The group that calls itself the Islamic State (IS) is reportedly expanding its reach in the Middle East and North Africa. But it may start losing its appeal to potential recruits through actions that expose its extreme brutality.


    The release of a gruesome video showing the burning to death of a Jordanian pilot– weeks before IS offered to trade him for a female terrorist jailed in Jordan – exposed the depths of the organization's cynicism and sadism. It also united Jordanians, who had been somewhat ambivalent members of a 60-nation anti-IS coalition, in demands for revenge. On Wednesday, Jordan executed two militants at dawn.


    Rather than dissuade Jordan from continuing its participation in the coalition against IS, the execution of Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh could increase popular support for Jordan to resume flying missions against the terrorist group. Another member of the coalition, the United Arab Emirates, had suspended flying after Kaseasbeh’s capture, demanding better U.S. resources to recover downed pilots; it remains to be seen how that government will react.


    One positive development would be if Kaseasbeh’s death helped persuade foreign governments and individuals not to accede to IS demands for ransoms and prisoner swaps in return for captured nationals.


    The proposed trade of Kaseasbeh – and a Japanese journalist who was subsequently beheaded – came to naught when IS failed to produce proof that the pilot was still alive. The Jordanian was captured Dec. 26 when his F-16 went down in northern Syria and apparently was executed only a few days later.


    Given the events surrounding the Jordanian’s murder, it is clear that there can be no assurance that the jihadis are telling the truth when they claim that their captives have not already been killed. If fewer ransoms are paid, that will dry up the group's resources – already depleted because of falling oil sales – and perhaps discourage what has become a wave of abductions.


    The savage killing of Kaseasbeh could also have an impact on IS recruitment.


    Up until now, the group has been expanding its appeal across the Middle East to North Africa and attracting recruits from Western Europe and even the United States who are lured in some cases by the notion of creating a new Islamic caliphate.


    According to testimony Tuesday by Marine Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, IS has extended its reach beyond Iraq and Syria to “ungoverned and under-governed areas” in in Algeria, Egypt and Libya.


    A recent report by the International Center for the Study of Radicalization at King’s College, London, put the number of foreigners who have joined jihadist groups in Iraq and Syria at over 20,000 – more than the number that joined the jihad against Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s. In the past, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Tunisia have been the origin of the largest number of recruits – at least 1,500 each – with 500 coming from Germany and Britain and about a hundred from the United States.


    The brutal execution of Kaseasbeh will provide ample new material for those who design public diplomacy campaigns on social media against jihadi recruitment. His death is a timely reminder that most of the victims of IS have been fellow Sunni Muslims.


    Two weeks from now, the White House is due to hold a major conference on how to counter violent extremism.


    Initially expected to have a largely domestic focus – showcasing pilot projects in Boston, Los Angeles and Minneapolis -St. Paul — the meeting was expanded to include foreign officials in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris.


    It would be sensible to invite Jordanians and other U.S. Arab allies to attend the meeting to discuss how to glean something positive from the nightmare that ended Kaseasbeh’s life. The latest events should inspire new efforts to persuade impressionable youth that the actions of IS are a perversion of the concept of holy war and a desecration of the most basic tenets of Islam.
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