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    NASA refutes story of boy who predicted asteroid collision

    Last Updated: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 | 3:43 PM ET Comments8Recommend9

    CBC News


    It's an amazing story: a 13-year-old German boy's science fair entry spots a miscalculation in NASA's estimates on an asteroid colliding with Earth, forcing the space agency to change its prediction.
    But the story — first published in a German newspaper and widely distributed in European media on Wednesday — is also inaccurate, said NASA.
    An artist's image of an asteroid hitting Earth. The picture shows a celestial impact far larger than any that has taken place.
    (NASA)
    "NASA has never corresponded with this individual," NASA spokesman Duane Brown told CBC News. "We've spoken with [Near-Earth Object program manager] Don Yeomans, who came up with our current prediction for the asteroid, and he's sticking to his numbers."


    The German tabloid Potsdamer Neuerster Nachrichten reported that German student Nico Marquardt used telescopic findings from the Institute of Astrophysics in Potsdam to calculate that the Apophis asteroid had a one-in-450 chance of colliding with Earth in 2036, a far greater likelihood than the one-in-45,000 chance NASA had given.


    Marquardt reportedly came upon the new figure by taking into account the chance of Apophis having its trajectory altered by a collision with a satellite orbiting Earth.
    The story was picked up by a number of news organizations, including Agence France-Presse and Reuters news agency.


    The story claimed NASA and the European Space Agency both corrected the odds in response to the boy's findings.


    In addition to NASA, the ESA has also denied giving such approval, according to the Guardian and the UK technology publication The Register.


    NASA's Near-Earth Object (NEO) program office tracks the paths of both near-Earth asteroids and comets. As of Jan. 20, 2008, the NEO office said it has discovered 5,086 near-Earth asteroids. The NEO office lists 910 known asteroids that can be classified as potentially hazardous to Earth.


    Apophis is of particular interest because it was once thought to be far more likely to strike Earth, according to NEO predictions.


    The asteroid once rated a four out of 10 on the Torino scale and was given a one-in-42 chance of striking Earth in 2036. Later study dropped the likelihood of a collision to one in 45,000.


    The Torino scale starts at zero, given to events of "no likely consequences." Phrases such as "regional devastation" start creeping in at about four on the scale. The scale ends, at 10, with what the NEO office describes as a certain collision "capable of causing global climatic catastrophe that may threaten the future of civilization as we know it."
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    NASA Statement on Student Asteroid Calculations

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    Date Released: Wednesday, April 16, 2008
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    WASHINGTON -- The Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASAs Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., has not changed its current estimates for the very low probability (1 in 45,000) of an Earth impact by the asteroid Apophis in 2036.





    Contrary to recent press reports, NASA offices involved in near-Earth object research were not contacted and have had no correspondence with a young German student, who claims the Apophis impact probability is far higher than the current estimate.

    This student's conclusion reportedly is based on the possibility of a collision with an artificial satellite during the asteroid's close approach in April 2029. However, the asteroid will not pass near the main belt of geosynchronous satellites in 2029, and the chance of a collision with a satellite is exceedingly remote.

    Therefore, consideration of this satellite collision scenario does not affect the current impact probability estimate for Apophis, which remains at 1 in 45,000.
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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    Apparently this is NOT about "Apophis"... but might as well be.

    Same situation, different asteroid.

    An asteroid will one day be on a collision course with Earth

    Nasa plans manned mission to asteroid

    Bruce Willis thankfully not going


    Written by Iain Thomson
    vnunet.com, 09 May 2008



    Having the capability in your back pocket to deflect an asteroid might be a good insurance policy for the future
    Ian Crawford

    Birkbeck College






    Nasa is preparing a three-month manned mission to an asteroid that is scheduled to pass close to Earth in 2030.


    The space agency has prepared a plan, seen by The Guardian, for a mission to the 1.1 million ton 2000SG344 asteroid.


    The asteroid caused concern in 2000 when the chance of it hitting Earth on its next visit in 2030 was raised to 500-1.


    "An asteroid will one day be on a collision course with Earth and it makes sense, after going to the moon, to start learning more about them," said Rob Landis, an engineer at Nasa's Johnson Space Centre.
    "Our study shows that it makes perfect sense to do this soon after going back to the moon."


    Landis's report calls for the forthcoming Orion spacecraft to be lifted in sections into orbit using Nasa's planned Ares booster, and for two astronauts to make the three-month trip to rendezvous before landing on the asteroid's surface.


    Nasa wants to use the trip to analyse the effects of long space flight on humans, and to test devices for converting interstellar ice into drinking water, breathable oxygen and even hydrogen for fuel.


    The mission would be an important testing platform for a future planned trip to Mars, and would also augment plans for deflecting a potentially catstrophic asteroid strike on Earth.


    "Near-Earth objects are a potential collision hazard and it may one day be necessary to deflect an asteroid from a collision course with Earth," said Ian Crawford, a planetary scientist at Birkbeck College in London.
    "Having the capability in your back pocket to deflect an asteroid might be a good insurance policy for the future.


    "For that, you want to know what they are made of, how to rendezvous with them, and whether you risk getting hit by debris if you fire something at it."
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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    About the previous post:

    http://newton.dm.unipi.it/cgi-bin/ne...2000SG344;main
    http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...%20SG344;orb=1

    Impactor Page:http://newton.dm.unipi.it/cgi-bin/ne...iskpage:0;main

    Current Apophis information:

    (99942) Apophis - impactor table

    Object: 99942

    date MJD sigma sigimp dist +/- width stretch p_RE exp. en. PS
    YYYY/MM (RE) (RE) RE/sig MT
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2036/04/13.371 64796.371 -2.470 0.000 1.15 +/- 0.003 3.32E+03 2.07E-05 8.26E-03 -2.57
    2042/04/13.720 66987.720 -2.494 0.000 1.41 +/- 0.000 1.12E+06 5.26E-08 2.10E-05 -5.24
    2044/04/13.296 67718.296 -2.434 0.000 2.08 +/- 0.000 6.27E+05 3.57E-08 1.42E-05 -5.44
    2069/04/13.078 76849.078 2.112 0.000 0.97 +/- 0.000 3.74E+05 4.41E-07 1.76E-04 -4.56
    2069/10/15.971 77034.971 1.466 0.000 0.48 +/- 0.160 1.52E+06 3.81E-07 1.52E-04 -4.63
    2072/10/15.333 78130.333 -3.870 0.000 0.48 +/- 0.089 6.09E+06 1.57E-10 6.26E-08 -8.03

    2076/07/30.873 79514.873 2.720 1.214 34.89 +/- 26.902 1.49E+07 3.73E-11 1.44E-08 -8.69

    Based on 1000 optical observations (of which 5 are rejected as outliers)
    from 2004/03/15.108 to 2006/08/16.627, and also on seven radar data points
    on 2005/01/27, 2005/01/29, 2005/01/31, 2005/08/07 and 2006/05/06.

    Coordinates are given on the Target Plane
    Unit is one Earth radius, but impact cross section
    has radius between 2.15 and 2.16 Earth radii

    Impactor table for the asteroid in the previous message:

    2000SG344 - impactor table

    Object: 2000SG344

    date MJD sigma sigimp dist +/- width stretch p_RE exp. en. PS
    YYYY/MM (RE) (RE) RE/sig MT
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2069/09/18.499 77007.499 -2.141 0.000 0.55 +/- 0.000 4.03E+02 2.41E-04 2.61E-04 -3.91
    2070/09/17.312 77371.312 -0.994 0.000 0.34 +/- 0.000 4.24E+02 1.33E-03 1.44E-03 -3.17
    2071/02/08.704 77515.704 -2.157 0.000 0.64 +/- 0.000 2.98E+04 3.32E-06 3.61E-06 -5.78
    2071/02/04.218 77511.218 -2.186 0.000 0.70 +/- 0.000 2.98E+05 3.21E-07 3.48E-07 -6.79
    2071/02/08.750 77515.750 -2.157 0.000 0.76 +/- 0.000 4.92E+04 2.09E-06 2.27E-06 -5.98
    2071/02/04.156 77511.156 -2.186 0.000 0.29 +/- 0.000 1.44E+05 5.79E-07 6.28E-07 -6.54
    2071/02/08.716 77515.716 -2.157 0.000 0.58 +/- 0.001 8.21E+03 1.06E-05 1.15E-05 -5.27
    2071/09/16.043 77735.043 0.318 0.000 0.18 +/- 0.000 1.61E+02 5.13E-03 5.56E-03 -2.59
    2072/02/14.372 77886.372 -2.162 0.000 0.23 +/- 0.000 1.85E+04 4.62E-06 5.02E-06 -5.64
    2072/02/10.734 77882.734 -2.184 0.000 0.05 +/- 0.000 2.12E+04 3.55E-06 3.86E-06 -5.76
    2072/02/14.400 77886.400 -2.162 0.000 0.22 +/- 0.000 1.79E+04 4.76E-06 5.17E-06 -5.63
    2072/02/03.478 77875.478 -1.047 0.000 0.20 +/- 0.000 8.46E+04 5.97E-06 6.48E-06 -5.53
    2072/09/13.715 78098.715 1.830 0.000 0.09 +/- 0.000 2.79E+02 5.61E-04 6.08E-04 -3.56
    2073/02/01.753 78239.753 0.253 0.000 0.52 +/- 0.000 3.10E+04 3.06E-05 3.31E-05 -4.83
    2073/02/12.042 78250.042 -1.021 0.000 0.47 +/- 0.000 1.34E+04 4.26E-05 4.62E-05 -4.68
    2073/02/09.205 78247.205 -1.044 0.000 0.02 +/- 0.000 1.88E+04 2.49E-05 2.71E-05 -4.91
    2073/02/12.016 78250.016 -1.021 0.000 0.56 +/- 0.000 1.99E+04 2.96E-05 3.22E-05 -4.84
    2073/02/09.214 78247.214 -1.044 0.000 0.00 +/- 0.000 7.75E+03 5.98E-05 6.49E-05 -4.53
    2074/01/28.450 78600.450 0.254 0.000 0.82 +/- 0.000 2.99E+05 3.47E-06 3.76E-06 -5.78
    2074/02/08.472 78611.472 0.259 0.000 0.46 +/- 0.000 1.55E+04 6.02E-05 6.53E-05 -4.54
    2079/09/10.359 80651.359 -2.140 0.000 0.83 +/- 0.000 1.18E+07 9.27E-09 1.01E-08 -8.38


    Based on 31 optical observations (of which 0 are rejected as outliers)
    from 1999/05/15.206 to 2000/10/03.608.

    NOTE: The Virtual Impactor in 2071/09/16.043 in the table above is rated as Torino Scale 1.

    Coordinates are given on the Target Plane
    Unit is one Earth radius, but impact cross section
    has radius between 1.00 and 1.35 Earth radii



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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    help menu | faq | risk page
    The columns in the impactor tables are defined as follows:
    Date/MJD
    The calendar year and month and the more precise Modified Julian Day for the potential impact.
    sigma
    The approximate location along the line of variation (LOV) in sigma space; values of sigma are in the interval [-3,3].
    sigimp
    Sigma for impact. The lateral distance in sigma-space from the LOV to the Earth's surface. A zero implies that the LOV passes through the Earth.
    dist +/- width
    Minimum Distance. The lateral distance from the LOV to the center of the Earth with the one-sigma semi-width of the target plane confidence region. Units are in Earth radii.
    stretch
    Stretching Factor. It indicates how much the confidence region at the epoch has been stretched by the time of impact. This is inversely proportional to the impact probability and is a close cousin of the Lyapounov exponent. Units are in Earth radii divided by sigma (RE/sig).
    p_RE
    Probability of Earth impact. It is computed with a bidimensional Gaussian probability density. It is not reported if the computed value is less than 1E-11.
    exp. en.
    Expected energy. It is the product of the impact energy and the impact probability; it's the average energy that would be expected to be delivered given a large statistically consistent sampling of the entire range of potential orbits. Units are in megatons MT (1 MT=4.2E15 J).
    PS
    Palermo Scale. It is the measure of the hazard posed by a VI according to the Palermo Technical Scale ( Reference ).
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    Links to Related Sites

    Tumbling Stone
    An online magazine with news and tutorials on Near Earth Objects. Sponsored by NEODyS and by the Spaceguard Foundation.
    AstDys
    The same services as NeoDys for all numbered and multiopposition asteroids.
    NASA's Asteroid and Comet Hazards site at Ames Research Center
    A wealth of good background information on the NEO hazard, including news, reports, congressional action, images, a nice FAQ, etc.
    NASA's NEO Program site at Jet Propulsion Laboratory
    Another good introduction to NEO's. This site is written for the layman, so it has a highly accessible description of the problem and what is being done about it. Includes an excellent listing of future encounters with Potentially Hazardous Asteroids, as well as the Risk Page provided by the complementary JPL's impact monitoring system, Sentry.
    E.A.R.N.
    The European Asteroid Research Node is an informal association of European research groups active in asteroid research.
    The Spaceguard Foundation
    An association aimed at the protection of the Earth environment against the bombardment of objects of the solar system.
    The Minor Planet Center
    This is the center designated by the IAU as the clearing house for astrometric observations. The MPC is is responsible for receiving, checking, and disseminating the observations.
    The International Astronomical Union NEO Page
    Description of IAU policy and recommendations for how to handle announcements of potential impacts.
    The International Astronomical Union NEO FAQ
    Description of the current research on Near Earth Objects.
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    Everyone keeps saying it's gonna miss us... really?


    Science & Technologies
    Russian space probe may save Earth from asteroid


    19:17 | 27/ 06/ 2008


    MOSCOW, June 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russian experts have said a space mission should be sent in 2012 to the Apophis asteroid to establish whether it will collide with Earth, adding that the Russian Phobos-Grunt spacecraft could be used for that purpose.


    A report at a Moscow scientific conference said 99942 Apophis, or Asteroid 2004 MN4, with a diameter of 350m, is the biggest space threat to Earth.


    In 2029, this near-Earth object will be at a distance of only 36,000 km (22,400 miles) - closer than satellites in geostationary orbit. Earth's gravity could change the orbit of Apophis in such a way that it would collide with Earth on its next approach in 2036.


    "This could lead to an area equal to France turning into a desert," said Alexander Simonov, an author of the report.


    The report authors also said that Apophis's exact orbit, with a precision of up to several tens of meters, should be calculated to determine whether the asteroid will collide with the Earth. This is only possible if a radio beacon is placed on the asteroid.


    Apophis got its name from Egyptian mythology, where Apophis, or Apep the Destroyer, is the god of evil and destruction characterized as a serpent dwelling in eternal darkness.


    The authors said the biggest ground-based radio telescopes cannot provide the necessary precision. "We propose the Phobos-Grunt spacecraft designed by the Lavochkin Russian scientific and production association as a platform for this mission," the report said.


    The authors said the launch should be made May 13, 2012, and the flight is expected to take 330 days, adding that the Phobos-Grunt payload would only have to be slightly altered to perform the task.


    Phobos-Grunt is a planned Russian sample return mission to the Martian moon Phobos. Its development started in 2001. It is expected to be launched in 2009.
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    And this... JUST IN...

    House of Representatives Passes Bill to Protect Us from Asteroids

    Don't worry, folks: Our trusted representatives in government just saw the movie Armageddon, and they aren't going to take the threat posed by this mediocre 1998 action movie lying down. They're going to pass laws to make sure we're prepared to face any asteroid-related threat without having to send a bunch of oil drillers into space.


    The House of Representatives just passed bill H.R. 6063, directing NASA to come up with plans for a cheap mission to send a craft to the Apophis asteroid to attach a tracking device. Apophis is on route to come closer to Earth than geostational satellites in 2029, and if it smacked into the planet we'd be a little bit screwed.


    In addition to paying close attention to Apophis, the bill requires the Director of the White House's Office of Science and Technology Policy to come up with a policy for notifying Federal agencies and other emergency response groups of an impending near-Earth object threat. Hopefully they'll come up with better plans than whatever it is they have enacted for natural disasters now, because their track record doesn't really inspire confidence. [KurzweilAI]
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    Maybe they hope that with enough congressional hearings it'll get bored and go away. (Like C-SPAN viewers.)

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    The left will protest the impact heavily and blame Bush & Co.
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    I wonder who's going to get dinged for the carbon credits on that bad boy?

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    Apophis Asteroid still a risk for 2036

    Posted by Brian Wang on July 15th, 2008 | Category: defense, risks, space
    On April 16, 2008, NASA News Release 08-103 reaffirmed that its estimation of a 1 in 45,000 chance of impact in 2036 remains valid.
    The B612 Foundation is working towardcs the goal of of significantly altering the orbit of an asteroid in a controlled manner by 2015.

    the B612 Foundation made estimates of Apophis path if a 2036 Earth impact were to occur.


    The impact result is a narrow corridor called the ‘path of risk’ which would be a few miles wide. Countries estimated to be in the direct path:


    - southern Russia,
    - across the north Pacific Ocean (relatively close to the coastlines of the California and Mexico), then
    - right between Nicaragua and Costa Rica,
    - crossing northern Colombia and
    - Venezuela and over the Caribbean islands of Trinidad and Tobago,
    - over the Atlantic Ocean to the west coast of Africa.





    Earth’s Path of Risk for the 99942 Apophis Asteroid that is suspected to be on track for a collision course with earth in the year 2037. This image is self-made from data estimated by the B612 Foundation, this is why it is just an approximation. Credit: Mario Roberto Duran Ortiz Mariordo and the re-use of this image is based on ‘Fair use’ of public domain info by the B612 Foundation work on Apophis.


    The hypothetical impact of Apophis along the path of risk would have more than 10 million casualties. So a 1 in 45,000 chance of 10+ million casualties.


    Spaceworks Engineering had an award winning plan to send a spacecraft to shadow the Apophis asteroid
    A video Foresight: A Radio Beacon Mission to Asteroid Apophis is on Youtube.
    The Foresight final report is here
    As of October 19, 2006 [and also April 16, 2008′, the impact probability for April 13, 2036, was calculated as 1 in 45,000. An additional impact date in 2037 was also identified; the impact probability for that encounter was calculated as 1 in 12.3 million.

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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    99942 Apophis (2004 MN4)
    Earth Impact Table
    Date Distance Width Sigma
    Impact
    Sigma
    LOV
    Stretch
    LOV
    Impact
    Probability
    Impact
    Energy
    Palermo
    Scale
    Torino
    Scale
    YYYY-MM-DD.DD (rEarth) (rEarth)

    (rEarth)
    (MT)

    2036-04-13.37 0.53 0.00e+00 0.000 -3.276 1.03e+03 4.3e-06 5.06e+02 -3.08 0
    2056-04-13.37 0.66 0.00e+00 0.000 0.304 5.53e+06 1.0e-07 5.06e+02 -4.97 0
    2068-04-13.37 0.02 0.00e+00 0.000 0.335 3.11e+05 2.5e-06 5.06e+02 -3.70 0
    2068-04-13.37 0.00 0.00e+00 0.000 1.039 4.09e+06 1.1e-07 5.06e+02 -5.04 0
    2076-04-13.37 0.10 0.00e+00 0.000 0.350 3.35e+06 2.2e-07 5.06e+02 -4.79 0
    2103-04-13.37 0.61 0.00e+00 0.000 0.334 4.25e+06 1.3e-07 5.06e+02 -5.17 0
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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    2036-04-13.37


    Impact Probability: 4.3e-06


    0.000430000% chance of Earth impact
    or
    1 in 233,000 chance
    or
    99.99957000% chance the asteroid will miss the Earth
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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    2056-04-13.37

    Impact Probability: 1.0e-07


    0.000010000% chance of Earth impact
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    1 in 10,000,000 chance
    or
    99.99999000% chance the asteroid will miss the Earth
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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

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    Impact Probability: 2.5e-06


    0.000250000% chance of Earth impact
    or
    1 in 400,000 chance
    or
    99.99975000% chance the asteroid will miss the Earth




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    Impact Probability: 1.1e-07


    0.000011000% chance of Earth impact
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    1 in 9,091,000 chance
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    99.99998900% chance the asteroid will miss the Earth
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    Default Re: NEO 2004 MN4 - Asteriod 99942 Apophis - Impact with Earth

    Guess it's going to miss us... lol
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