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    Court rebukes Bush on war crimes trials


    June 29, 2006

    1:10 p.m.
    The Supreme Court ruled today that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, saying in a strong rebuke that the trials were illegal under U.S. and international law.
    Mr. Bush said there might still be a way to work with Congress to sanction military tribunals for detainees and that the American people should know the ruling "won't cause killers to be put out on the street."
    The court declared 5-3 that the trials for 10 foreign terror suspects violate U.S. law and the Geneva conventions.
    The ruling raises major questions about the legal status of the approximately 450 men still being held at the U.S. military prison in Cuba and exactly how, when and where the administration might pursue the charges against them.
    It also seems likely to further fuel international criticism of the administration, including by many U.S. allies, for its handling of the terror war detainees at Guantanamo in Cuba, Abu Ghraib in Iraq and elsewhere.
    Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the court, said the Bush administration lacked the authority to take the "extraordinary measure" of scheduling special military trials for inmates, in which defendants have fewer legal protections than in civilian U.S. courts.
    The decision blocked a trial for Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a bodyguard and driver for Osama bin Laden. Mr. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison in Cuba. He faces a single count of conspiring against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.
    It was a broad defeat for the government, which two years ago suffered a similar loss when the high court held that the president lacked authority to seize and detain terrorism suspects and indefinitely deny them access to courts or lawyers.
    The vote was split 5-3, with moderate Justice Anthony M. Kennedy joining the court's liberal members in most of the ruling against the administration. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., named by Mr. Bush last September to the lead the court, was sidelined in the case because as an appeals court judge he had backed the government over Mr. Hamdan.
    Today's ruling overturned that decision.
    The administration had hinted in recent weeks that it was prepared for the court to set back its plans for trying Guantanamo detainees.

    The president also has told reporters, "I'd like to close Guantanamo." However, he added, "I also recognize that we're holding some people that are darn dangerous."
    The court's ruling says nothing about whether the prison should be shut down, dealing only with plans to put detainees on trial.
    "Trial by military commission raises separation-of-powers concerns of the highest order," Justice Kennedy wrote in his opinion. "Concentration of power [in the executive branch] puts personal liberty in peril of arbitrary action by officials, an incursion the Constitution's three-part system is designed to avoid."
    The prison at Guantanamo Bay, erected in the months after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States, has been a flash point for international criticism. Hundreds of people suspected of ties to al Qaeda and the Taliban have been swept up by the U.S. military and secretly shipped there since 2002.
    Three detainees committed suicide there this month, using sheets and clothing to hang themselves. The deaths brought new scrutiny and criticism of the prison, along with fresh calls for its closing.
    Justice Clarence Thomas wrote a strongly worded dissent from the ruling and took the unusual step of reading part of it from the bench -- something he had never done before in his 15 years. He said the court's decision would "sorely hamper the president's ability to confront and defeat a new and deadly enemy."
    The court's willingness, Justice Thomas wrote in the dissent, "to second-guess the determination of the political branches that these conspirators must be brought to justice is both unprecedented and dangerous."
    Justices Antonin Scalia and Samuel A. Alito Jr. also dissented.
    In his own opinion, Justice Stephen G. Breyer said, "Congress has not issued the executive a 'blank check.'
    "Indeed, Congress has denied the president the legislative authority to create military commissions of the kind at issue here. Nothing prevents the president from returning to Congress to seek the authority he believes necessary," Justice Breyer wrote.
    Justices also rejected the Bush administration's claim that the case should be thrown out on grounds that a new law stripped the justices' authority to consider it and that Mr. Hamdan should not have been allowed to appeal until after the conclusion of his trial.

    http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...588r_page2.htm

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    Default Re: Court rebukes Bush on war crimes trials

    SCOTUS Gitmo Tribunal Ruling is Pure Partisan Politics


    By Sean Osborne, Associate Director, Senior Analyst, Military Affairs
    sosborne@homelandsecurityus.com


    There’s no time nor is there any pressing need to mince words at this juncture in the global war against Al Qaeda and other state-sponsored terrorists. The decision taken late last week by the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) is based upon nothing more than pure partisan politics and not the cited legalese of “the Rule of Law that prevails in this jurisdiction."

    The truthful fact of the matter is that the President of the United States has long been authorized to order tried all captured enemy combatants under a military commission or tribunal during a time of war. The basis for this longstanding Presidential authority is an integral part of the War Powers Act which determines when and under what circumstances POTUS with the acquiescence of the Congress sends American troops into combat on foreign soil. There are additional supporting legal provisions such as the Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942).

    The current 5-3 Hamdan v. Rumsfeld ruling is a clear case of the Supreme Court overstepping its bounds and injecting itself in matters constitutionally mandated to be the purview of the Congress and the Commander-in Chief. With the approval of the Congress and abiding by the letter of the law the President acted within his authority in dispatching US troops to engage the Islamist enemy which has attacked our Embassies in Africa, bombed the USS Cole, launched the attacks of September 11, 2001 and had attacked the United States in acts of war dating back at least to 8 years prior to 9/11. The President acted within his authority by issuing the Executive Order of November 13, 2001 which is the basis for the detention and military control of Al Qaeda enemy combatants seized on foreign soil. The Executive Order is limited in its scope as it applies ONLY to non-U.S. citizens on an individual case-by-case basis. Under the provisions of this Executive order the President must provide compelling data to substantiate that the detainee is, was or has:

    a.) A member of Al Qaeda
    b.) Engaged in aided, abetted or conspired to attack the U.S., its citizens, affect U.S. national security, foreign policy of economy.
    c.) Knowingly harbored any such accused in Al Qaeda members so identified above.

    Clearly, President George W. Bush is fulfilling his Constitutional duties as both the Chief Executive, the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the land and as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. The decision taken by the Supreme Court is nothing more than partisan political interference intended to disrupt the President and the Secretary of Defense in execution of their duties in a time of war which is destined to determine our national survival. The President and SECDEF should both summarily ignore this ruling by the Supreme Court and get on with the mission they have so admirably been engaged since September 11, 2001.


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    Default Re: Court rebukes Bush on war crimes trials

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne
    The President and SECDEF should both summarily ignore this ruling by the Supreme Court and get on with the mission they have so admirably been engaged since September 11, 2001.
    Exactly!! Tell the Supreme Court to enforce their ruling much like Andrew Jackson did (although, these circumstances are certainly much more righteous!).

    But, they won't... We are much too "civilized" today to do something so "radical".

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