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    How The FBI Misled The Public
    WorldNetDaily ^ | 12 July 2006 | Robert Donaldson

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=51014

    July 17 marks the 10th anniversary of the destruction of TWA Flight 800, the investigation of which represented the most conspicuous and consequential misdirection of justice in American history. This column is part of an in-depth look at the incident, presenting several compelling reasons why the investigation must be re-opened. Writer Robert Donaldson has headed up Associated Retired Aviation Professionals since the death of his brother, Cmdr. William Donaldson, five years ago. By Robert Donaldson

    Nearly 10 years ago, on a warm summer night off the coast of Long Island, hundreds of people saw what they described as "fireworks" or "flares" streaking from the surface and terminating in the explosion of TWA Flight 800 and its subsequent fiery crash. That night, 230 people lost their lives. Many of the witnesses described a squiggly smoke trail with an orange glow, a characteristic of a shoulder-fired missile. Immediate news reports on TV, radio and in print media were that witnesses had seen a missile shoot down Flight 800.

    Within days, the FBI had over 1,000 agents on Long Island interviewing over 700 eyewitnesses. James Kallstrom, FBI agent in charge, repeatedly stated that they were studying three possible scenarios: a missile, a bomb or mechanical failure. Over the next few months, Kallstrom gradually steered the press away from the missile theory until in November 1997 the FBI withdrew from the investigation, stating that it could find no evidence of a criminal act.

    During this time, the press was told that Flight 800 was out of range of a shoulder-fired missile, otherwise known as a MANPADS, which stands for Man Portable Air Defense System. Further, the press was told that these missiles are heat seekers and would have struck one of the 747s engines, and since no engine was damaged, it could not have been a MANPADS missile. It was also claimed that such a small missile could not have brought down the huge 747. The CIA was then brought in to create a video animation to explain that "It wasn't a missile." This video was shown to the national press and aired on TV nationwide. So, in a little over one year, the press went from "It was a missile" to "it couldn't have been a missile." The transition was complete.

    So what really happened? What did the FBI know, and when did they know it?

    After the crash, the FBI immediately formed a missile team, which included an agent who was a former fighter pilot. The team also included military missile experts. This team, combined with the Suffolk County police, zeroed in on a dozen credible eyewitnesses. The team went to the location where each witness saw the events and, using GPS and a hand-bearing compass, they triangulated potential launch locations for at least two shoulder-fired missiles. This is documented in a letter to their superiors. Released under the Freedom of Information Act in 1999, it was clear from their letter that the FBI missile team believed missiles had been fired at Flight 800. However, James Kallstrom would have none of it! He demanded they bring him a "smoking gun," a piece of physical evidence that could prove a missile had been fired.

    This search for a "smoking gun" led the missile team to initiate an elaborate dredging operation to look specifically for Stinger missile parts. The Stinger is a U.S. made MANPADS missile. The press was told the dredging was being done to look for every last part of the aircraft and missing victims. However, the dredging operation was not centered over the aircraft wreckage site; it was centered over the location identified by the missile team as possible launch points.

    The FBI missile team hired three scallop trawlers to dredge an area with a radius of 2.7 nautical miles, which just happens to be the range of a Stinger missile. Each trawler was equipped with two FBI agents with detailed instructions, including drawings, on how to recognize Stinger missile components. The trawling maps are annotated "Per FBI – Possible Missile Launch Zone – 2.7nm." This operation went on for nearly six months before being abruptly canceled. No one knows if they found what they were looking for.

    So, why would the FBI missile team spend so much time and effort looking for shoulder-fired missile evidence if Flight 800 was out of range and they were sure it had not been hit by a missile? Good question! The reason is they knew it was in range of a Stinger missile, they just didn't want the public to know.

    In mid-August 1996, the FBI missile team received a PowerPoint presentation by military missile experts. This document, which has never been published before, was recently found in the archives of the late Cmdr. William S. Donaldson. It proves, beyond any doubt, that Flight 800 could easily have been shot down by a shoulder-fired missile. Meanwhile, the agency was telling the press just the opposite.

    Slide 1 sums it all up. A MANPADS missile could have easily reached flight 800's altitude and could have caused catastrophic damage to the aircraft. The team was told that the heat-seeking warhead will steer for the center points when there are multiple heat sources. The infrared photograph of a 747 clearly shows that the A/C packs under the center fuel tank are an additional heat source and the center of all heat sources.

    Slide 2 shows the computer simulation results from the oldest Stinger-type missiles that were shipped to Afghanistan. This program is used by the military to determine the PK (probability of kill) for various launch points. It shows that if the missile was launched from in front of Flight 800 it could have shot down the aircraft. The official Effective Range of the early Stinger is listed as 10,000 feet. However, that is against a maneuvering fighter aircraft, not a lumbering 747 taking no evasive action.

    Slide 3 shows the profile of the missile with a TOF (time of flight) of 10 seconds. During this time, the missile is traveling at supersonic speed. Ten seconds is about the time most eyewitnesses estimated they saw the missile before impact. By contrast, the CIA and NTSB claimed the eyewitnesses saw the burning airplane climbing 3,000 ft. trailing flames. This would have taken the 747 at least 20-30 seconds and would hardly have looked like a "flare or fireworks." From 10 miles away, it would have looked more like it was climbing in slow motion.

    Slide 4 shows Missile and Aircraft Speed. The engine burn time is 6-7 seconds. The missile would only be visible during the engine burn when it is leaving a smoke trail. Many eyewitnesses said they saw the missile disappear for a few seconds before the explosion. Although the missile slows down after engine burnout, this slide predicts it would impact at 500 m/s. This means it would be traveling at over 1,000 mph. Even though the warhead is small, the amount of energy just from the impact at that speed would cause catastrophic damage.

    Slide 5 shows the Probability of Kill for a "tier 2" MANPADS missile. Remember, the Afghan era Stinger was designed and built in the 1970s. By the late 1980s, extended range MANPADS missiles were available from not just the U.S., but from the Soviet Union, China and many other nations. This slide clearly shows that aircraft in 1996 and especially today are extremely vulnerable to shoulder-launched missiles.

    We don't know if the FBI missile team ever found the "smoking gun" it was looking for, but I believe that the extreme measures that the FBI, CIA and NTSB went to to convince the public that the eyewitnesses did not see a missile is, itself, a "smoking gun." The eyewitness reports were held by the FBI and not even given to the NTSB until 1999, then only released to the public under FOIA. No eyewitness was ever allowed to testify at any of the public hearings, even after taking out a full-page ad in the Washington Post demanding to do so. Why have they gone to so much trouble to convince the public that the eyewitnesses didn't see what they know they saw?

    So what does this all mean? Why would the government want to cover up a missile attack on Flight 800? If you will remember, the crash occurred three days before the start of the Atlanta Olympics and four months before the 1996 presidential election. Leaving politics aside, if the public realized that Flight 800 had been shot down, it would have had a devastating effect on the airline industry and the economy as a whole, as we saw after 9-11. The president may well have felt justified in keeping this quiet for national security reasons, and it would have only taken a few key people, like Jim Kallstrom, to keep demanding more proof until there is no alternative left except a mysterious mechanical-failure theory that itself cannot be duplicated in any laboratory.

    Unfortunately, all they accomplished was to make us more vulnerable. By 1996, 26 civilian aircraft had been shot down worldwide by shoulder-fired missiles. Granted, most were in Africa or other war zones, but the threat to commercial aviation was real then and is an even bigger threat today. It wasn't until an El Al near miss in 2003 in Africa and a cargo plane was badly damaged in Baghdad that studies of shoulder-fired missile countermeasures for U.S. civilian aircraft were authorized, but 10 years after Flight 800 we remain vulnerable to these missiles.

    There is a fine line between the need to keep things quiet for "national security" reasons and the public's right to know. In a free society, we should trust the public with the information; they can handle it. Had we known the truth about Flight 800 there would likely have been increased airline security, which may well have prevented 9-11 and would surely have led to electronic countermeasures on all U.S. commercial aircraft. As it stands today, it is only a matter of time before another U.S. airliner is shot down by shoulder-fired missiles.

    July 17 marks the 10th anniversary of the destruction of TWA Flight 800, the investigation of which represented the most conspicuous and consequential misdirection of justice in American history. This column is part of an in-depth look at the incident, presenting several compelling reasons why the investigation must be re-opened. Writer Robert Donaldson has headed up Associated Retired Aviation Professionals since the death of his brother, Cmdr. William Donaldson, five years ago.
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    U.S. Focused On Iran After TWA 800 Explosion
    CNN ^ | 13 July 2006 | Jim Polk


    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House, suspecting terrorism, readied plans for retaliation in the Middle East when TWA Flight 800 exploded over the ocean in 1996 after takeoff from New York, killing all 230 people on board. >p>

    "I think our first thought when we got the news was that it was terrorism," President Clinton's national security adviser, Anthony Lake, told "CNN Presents" as part of an investigative documentary airing Saturday and Sunday.

    "We especially wanted to look for an Iranian connection."

    In fact, terrorism was ultimately found not to be the cause, but twice before Boeing 747s had been bombed out of the sky -- Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland in 1988, with 270 dead; and an Air India flight off Ireland in 1985, with 329 killed.

    Within hours of the TWA explosion, security officials were meeting at the White House to discuss possible bombing raids as retaliation, once they knew who might be responsible.

    James Kallstrom, the leading FBI investigator on the TWA 800 case, told CNN, "If this was an act of terrorism, it had an awful lot of consequences."

    But as weeks began to pass and no evidence surfaced, top officials began to question the terrorism theory.

    "We were not getting information to that effect," then-Chief of Staff Leon Panetta said. "No one was taking credit for it."

    Eventually, the FBI found no evidence of terrorism and the National Transportation Safety Board concluded TWA 800 was the victim of a center fuel tank explosion, most likely caused by a spark in its vapor-filled center tank directly below the passenger compartment.

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    Rick, memory fades, did any terrorist group ever claim responsibility?

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    Nope.

    None did. But... while I posted this in the skeptics corner, I think that without a doubt, that plane went down due to a missile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson
    Nope.

    ...snip... I think that without a doubt, that plane went down due to a missile.
    I believe that also. I believe the reason it was covered up was because Clinton didn't want to open this can of worms 4 months before a presidential election.

    Richard Clark participated in this cover-up and I suspect, he's going to have a "Mark Felt" type confession when he's drawing his lasts breaths.

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    After seeing the clips, I too became convinced this was the result of a missile. My curiousity now, as then, is in the who and why, as in why no crowing over such an "accomplishment" if it were a terror group.

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    TWA 800: Ten Years After
    Media Monitor ^ | 7/21/2006 | Roger Aronoff


    The tenth anniversary of the destruction of TWA Flight 800 shows that government and media cover-ups do succeed. The prevailing myth is that the fuel-tank somehow exploded, causing the plane to crash. But the evidence shows it was destroyed by missiles. The possibility of a terrorist attack, which would have been a huge embarrassment for the Clinton Administration, cannot be ruled out.

    It is an event that should be treated as an ongoing investigation, and it's still not too late to determine the truth of what happened. What is not in dispute is that at 8:19 p.m. on July 17, 1996, the Boeing 747 took off from Kennedy Airport in New York, headed for Paris. About 12 minutes into the flight, the plane exploded, killing all 230 people aboard, as the burning wreckage fell into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Long Island.

    Some 260 people, unknown to each other, witnessed an object flying toward Flight 800, and of those, 92 saw the object rise from the surface. These are all people who gave sworn statements to the FBI. The eyewitnesses include highly reliable people like Maj. Fred Meyer, an attorney and pilot who is a recipient of the Distinguished Flying Cross for his service in Vietnam. The night that TWA 800 went down, Meyer was flying a helicopter for his National Guard unit, and had perhaps the best perspective of anyone who witnessed the tragedy. I described in a commentary last November his frustrating experience trying to describe to the FBI what he saw, and other examples of the compelling evidence that strongly indicate that TWA 800 was brought down by missiles, and covered up by the government. The evidence includes explosive residue found in the wreckage, radar data, and testimony. . . SNIP

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    TWA Flight 800 Investigators Break Silence In New Documentary, Claim Original Conclusion About Cause Of Crash Is Wrong

    June 18, 2013


    July 16, 2008: The remains of the TWA Flight 800 from New York to Paris that exploded off Long Island, New York at National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Training Facility in Ashburn,Virginia

    A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of Long Island 17 years ago.

    However, the six whistleblowers, all part of the original investigation team, stopped short of saying the plane was shot down.

    Flight 800, a Boeing 747, had just taken off from JFK airport with 230 people aboard on July 17, 1996 enroute to Paris when it exploded and crashed off the coast of nearby East Moriches, Long Island, killing everyone on the plane.

    “..This team of investigators who actually handled the wreckage and victims’ bodies, prove that the officially proposed fuel-air explosion did not cause the crash,” reads a statement by the producers of the film, which will debut on cable network EPIX next month. “They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.” However, the statement said they did not speculate about the source or sources of any ordinance explosions.

    The whistleblower team, which includes investigators-at the time-from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), TWA, and the Airline Pilots Association, have since retired from their positions. They claim that at the time, they were placed under a gag order by the NTSB, which they charged falsified the official conclusion of the cause of the crash. They indicated they would elaborate more in a Wednesday media briefing.

    The NTSB report, the culmination of a four-year investigation, suggested the cause of the explosion was due to an explosion in the gas tank caused by a short circuit.

    With conspiracy theories immediately swirling around the crash – one being that it was caused by a terrorist missile strike -- the FBI conducted a 16-month investigation and concluded that there was no evidence to indicate that any criminal act occurred.

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    Here is the released documentary:

    http://vimeo.com/59099154

    It's private but the password is "epix123". It is about 1:45 long.

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    Watching it now. It is a good watch. Very well documented actually. Thanks Ryan.

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    I hope that sticks around, I won't get a chance to watch it until maybe Saturday morning.

    Zoom-climb is and always has been utter bullshit.

    The plane was shot down. There are too many people who saw it for it to be otherwise.

    Just think if that had happened now? The shoot down would have been on Youtube before the feds could get their boots on.
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    My daughter was in NYC at the time that happened, visiting friends. I think she was about 15 or so, can't remember now. She described to me a missile (she didn't call it that, but her description was that of a missile, smoke trail etc)
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    Under the Obama and then Clinton Administration the truth was probably suppressed to avoid having to face the facts that America was under attack not just abroad but within our own borders.

    At the time like the Obama Administration they were focused on hunting down more Waco's and McVeigh's.


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