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    The Persistence of Rumors (Castro still dead?)
    Babalublog ^ | July 14, 2004 | Val Prieto

    The persistence of rumors.

    We're going on day four of the latest fidel castro is dead rumors. Here are a couple more uncorroborated reports and speculations:

    - Hugo Chavez supposedly took an "urgent flight" to Cuba yesterday afternoon along with other high ranking Cuban officials. Details or news accounts of same unavailable.

    - Granma once again published articles profiling Raul Castro, heir apparent to the dictator throne.

    - WHPC reports that there is much action in Cuba at the moment, with reports from Granma stating that workers are "waging a fierce battle" in attempts to have construction and other related project complete for a huge July 26 island wide celebration. WHPC also speculates that said projects and celebration and construction may be some kind of secret preparations for an elaborate state funeral for the bearded dictator.

    - Ive also received unconfirmed reports that castro may not be dead, but suffering from Parkinsons or Alzeimers and not in control of his mental faculties. (natch)

    - Several sources have emailed stating that they have been unable to communicate with family and loved ones on the island for several days. Other sources have emailed saying they have been in communication with family in Cuba but have heard nothing of the rumors.

    - I personally have yet to hear from certain sources in Cuba via email.

    - There have been no reports from local news media regarding the rumors to my knowledge.

    Unfortunately, that's all I have that I feel I can publish at the moment without helping perpetuate the rumors. As I've said all along, we have but to wait until July 26 for verification. Should fidel not appear on his holiday, chances are he is either at death's door or begging Satan not to make him recite the Pledge of Allegiance of the US in perpetuity for all eternity.

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    Castro Dead?!
    http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | July 11, 2006 | Me

    Posted on 07/11/2006 12:33:49 PM MDT by tcostell

    There is a market rumor going around that Fidel Castro has died. Any confirmation in the media?
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    So, Is Castro Dead, Or What?
    wonkette.com ^ | July 11, 2006

    Posted on 07/11/2006 2:28:05 PM MDT by E. Pluribus Unum

    Anyone who works at the State Deparment want to confirm the anonymous rumor we just heard that everyone’s freaking the %$#@ out re. the unverified death of Fidel Castro?
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    So, Is Castro Dead, Or What?

    http://www.wonkette.com/politics/fid...hat-186587.php

    Anyone who works at the State Deparment want to confirm the anonymous rumor we just heard that everyone’s freaking the fuck out re. the unverified death of Fidel Castro?

    To be more specific — we hear OAS heard rumors of said death and is, as of right now, unable to verify Castro’s whereabouts or hold on this mortal coil.

    Update: Jonah Goldberg seems to think so, which makes us doubt it somehow.

    (The rumor seems to have started on Wall Street, and the State Department’s taking it seriously.)
    READ MORE: cuba, fidel castro, foreign policy, speculation, state department, top, unverified rumors
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    Thursday, March 30, 2006

    Castro Dead?
    Rumors of Castro's death have elicited denials from Cuba. The source of the rumors appears to be this rough translation on Argentina IndyMedia:

    The dictator dies to Havana Fidel I castrate

    EPT - mié 29 sea, 20h22

    In afternoon today Cuban dictator died in his residence of the Laguito longevo Fidel I castrate.
    According to sources officials the Cuban dictator I have not been castrating for some days was in delicate state of health after to have undergone a sudden infarct.
    Fidel I castrate volume the power the 1 of January of 1959, with a coup d'etat, demoting to Fulgencio dictator Batiste and since then one has stayed in being able.
    Official sources of the government, its brother Raul I castrate and stops leaders of the regime have not even wanted to notify to the Cuban town, awaiting an international reaction.

    In a story released just two hours ago, the official Cuba news Agency claims that Castro held a meeting last evening with the Executive Secretary of the Latin American Energy Organization.

    I have a magnum of Mumms just waiting for news that one of the twentieth century's most notorious dictators is with Beelzebub.

    Via The Jawa Report.
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    I've seen this several times. The rumors abound, but, no evidence one way or the other. He's not opened his mouth in weeks, and I've not seen him (alive or dead) on TV in more than about 4 months.

    Figured he'd have said something about North Korea... and nukes and missiles.. perhap harkening back to 1962-63
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    http://www.ain.cubaweb.cu/idioma/ing...alvarorios.htm

    Fidel Castro and OLADE Top Official Held Talks in Havana

    Havana, March 30 (ACN) During a friendly encounter on Wednesday evening, Cuban President Fidel Castro Ruz and the Executive Secretary of the Latin American Energy Organization (OLADE), Alvaro Rios Roca, addressed the world energy situation and the Latin American and Caribbean panorama.

    The OLADE Executive Secretary is visiting the island for the first time after his election to the important post near the end of 2005, Granma newspaper reports on Thursday.

    During the encounter, President Castro gave the visitor a detailed description of the national energy program underway throughout the island, and which is known here as the Energy Revolution in Cuba.The national initiative has a focus on energy consciousness and fuel efficiency, and a planned and diversified government policy on electricity production. These changes are expected to provide considerable savings for the country that can be invested in developing other sectors of the economy and important social programs.

    The OLADE executive expressed his admiration for Cuba's energy plans and expressed his interest in bringing the island's experience to other nations in the region. He asked for Cuba's assitance in converting the OLADE into a genuine instrument for Latin American and Caribbean energy integration.
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    Cuba Vows Post-Castro Communism
    What will Cuba be like when Fidel Castro is gone? Washington and Cuba have - no surprise - startlingly different versions of a post-Castro Cuba, and many dissidents on the island complain they will be caught in the middle.

    In Washington's scenario, presented this week by a presidential commission, a democratic Cuba will endorse multiparty elections and free markets and become a new ally to be rebuilt with American assistance after nearly five decades of communism.

    But Castro, who apparently enjoys good health and turns 80 on Aug. 13, has been fortifying the ruling Communist Party to ensure the status quo long after his death. He plans to hand over power to his 75-year-old brother Raul, the first vice president of Cuba's Council of State.

    The key aim of the 93-page report by the Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba is to halt that succession, using diplomacy to enlist Cuban citizens and other countries to demand a new government after Fidel dies.

    It recommends that the United States spend $80 million over two years to encourage that change, saying Cubans could appeal to the United States for food, water and other aid. It envisions U.S. technicians rebuilding schools, highways, bridges, financial specialists designing a new tax system and the United States helping Cuba join the International Monetary Fund.

    "The greatest guarantor of genuine stability in Cuba is the rapid restoration of sovereignty to the Cuban people through free and fair, multiparty elections," says the report that was released July 10.

    Other experts say the commission is being unrealistic.

    "We need a reality check here," said Wayne Smith, America's top diplomat to Havana from 1979 to 1982. "Anyone who knows Cuba knows the Cuban people aren't going to rise up against a successor regime."

    Dissidents in Cuba say they appreciate the gesture, but fear it will backfire and lead to more arrests. In 2003, 75 dissidents were arrested and accused of being "mercenaries" receiving U.S. aid - a charge the activists denied.

    Opposition member Manuel Cuesta Morua called the U.S. offer a "poisonous embrace."

    "Those are 80 million arguments for the Cuban government to make it seem all Cuban dissidents are financed by the United States," he said.

    The dissident community has not fully recovered from the 2003 arrests, and no Cuban opposition leader has emerged with widespread support.

    Cuba also lacks the powerful nongovernment institutions that existed in communist-era Poland, where the Solidarity movement, organized around a strong Roman Catholic church and labor unions, managed to topple the Communist leadership.

    The U.S. report has been well-received in Miami, where U.S. Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Cuban-born Republican, said it shows "the strong commitment of President Bush to help the Cuban people free themselves from the shackles of their brutal oppressor."

    But Smith calls the U.S. report "pure pie-in-the-sky."

    "The reality will end up being somewhere between those two visions, and probably closer to the Cuban succession plan _ with the addition of popular pressure for economic reforms," said Smith, who heads the Cuba program at the Center for International Policy, a foreign policy institute in Washington.

    Long a taboo topic, Cuba's planned succession has been discussed more openly in recent months with Raul Castro, the longtime defense minister, appearing frequently in state media to insist the party will continue its dominant role.

    If Raul Castro does succeed his brother, the United States will likely be sidelined while other countries interact with Cuba's new leadership, said Philip Peters of the Lexington Institute, a think tank outside Washington.

    That's because the United States in 1996 tightened its Cuba sanctions and prohibited aid to Cuba until multiparty elections are planned, political prisoners are released, and both Castro brothers are out of power.

    Peters said the report only hardens Washington's position on Cuba.

    "The report leaves no doubt that the administration will not support in Cuba the kind of change it applauds in China - economic liberalization without significant political change," Peters wrote this week.

    Cuban parliament speaker Ricardo Alarcon said he believes the report's classified section contains plans to attack the island or assassinate its leaders.

    "We have the right to expect the worst," said Alarcon, referring to the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion and earlier U.S. assassination attempts against Fidel Castro.

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    Fidel Castro Surprises Anti-U.S. Leaders at Summit
    A rare guest appearance by Cuban leader Fidel Castro has turned a routine trade summit into a politically charged gathering of Washington's greatest Latin American foes.

    Castro's surprise visit to Argentina honors the induction of Venezuela into Mercosur, the highlight of talks that start Friday. The addition gives the South American trade bloc a decidedly leftist tilt a decade after it emerged during a wave of pro-U.S. free trade sentiment.

    The communist leader, wearing his usual olive green military fatigues, slowly descended the airplane Thursday to cries of "Fidel! Fidel!" from well-wishers behind police cordons at the airport in the central city of Cordoba. Castro — whose trip was announced after he was airborne — made no public comments but saluted the crowd with a raised hand before heading to a dinner of the visiting presidents.

    The summit gives Latin America's staunchest free trade critics — Castro, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Bolivia's socialist President Evo Morales — a chance to meet with the region's more mainstream leftist leaders far beyond the influence of the White House.

    It also gives them the opportunity to smooth over recent rifts. Among the sharpest: Morales' abrupt nationalization of his country's gas industry two months ago, a move that raised worries of energy shortages and price hikes for Bolivia's biggest customers, Argentina and Brazil.

    At a meeting in Venezuela earlier this month, Paraguayan President Nicanor Duarte brought up another source of division: alleged projectionist practices by Brazil and Argentina that have prompted Paraguay and Uruguay to question the benefits of Mercosur membership.

    Chavez, however, called the display of leftist unity a "fiesta of integration. He lunched with Argentine President Nestor Kirchner in Buenos Aires before flying to Cordoba, arriving moments before Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva.

    Unlike Lula Da Silva, who boarded a black limousine without making comments, Chavez waded into a crowd of local journalists to speak of a new Mercosur, pledging to use Venezuela's oil wealth to bolster the once-sleepy customs union.

    "We are entering a new stage of Mercosur," Chavez said. "Imagine that ... the incorporation of nearly 30 million Venezuelans into a southern common market, and the Venezuelan economy is one of the most vigorous today in the world."

    The summit allows Chavez to trumpet one of his long-sought foreign policy goals weeks after some critics blamed his political meddling for contributing to the election of losses of leftist presidential candidates in Mexico and Peru. He has said Mercosur should be a front against U.S. free trade deals.

    Venezuela's induction expands Mercosur beyond its beginnings in southernmost South America. It now includes all the continent's largest economies — Brazil, Argentina and Venezuela — along with Paraguay and Uruguay.

    Morales and moderate leftist Chilean President Michelle Bachelet were attending as observers.

    Castro, who turns 80 on Aug. 13, has traveled to fewer international summits in recent years. It was his first trip to Argentina since Kirshner's 2003 inauguration.

    Cordoba holds special significance for Castro, a political mentor for the younger Chavez and Morales. The central Argentina province was the boyhood home of Ernesto "Che" Guevara, the Argentine who gave up a future in medicine to join Cuba's revolution.

    The Mercosur leaders, meeting for the 30th time since 1991, are expected to sign a deal promoting trade between their nations and Cuba, which has been under a U.S. embargo for decades.
    Somewhat curious that he didn’t make any public remarks… I wonder if this was a lookalike just like Saddam had!

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    Oh, *I* knew he wasn't dead yet.
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    I don't know... I do find it suspicious that he has been to two major public events and hasn't done any public speaking.

    Something about that just screams "lookalike standin" to me.

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    'I'll be out by 100' says Castro
    BBC News ^ | 07/26/2006

    Three weeks before his 80th birthday, Cuban President Fidel Castro has joked that he has no plans to be in power when he is 100 years old. He was addressing 100,000 people who were marking the anniversary of the start of the 1953 Cuban Revolution.

    Mr Castro used his speech to make fun of the US, which has set up a $80m (£43m) fund to "boost democracy" when the communist leader dies.

    In power since 1959, Mr Castro has so far outlasted nine US presidents.

    'Little neighbours'

    Mr Castro travelled to the eastern city of Bayamo to celebrate the anniversary of the assault he led on the Moncada barracks which sparked the revolution.

    "Granma [province] doesn't need any Yankee transition plan to vaccinate and teach our people to read and write," he said in reference to the fund that Washington says will help the Cuban people in their "transition from repressive control to freedom".

    Mr Castro said more Cubans were reaching 100 thanks to his government's social services.

    "But our little neighbours to the north should not fear, I am not planning to be in office at that age," he added.

    The Cuban leader turns 80 on 13 August.
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    Ah! The Bearded One speaks!

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    No... He promised the office to John Kerry who turned it down before accepting it. LMAO
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    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=2258872

    Ill Castro Relinquishes Power to Brother
    Cuban Leader Fidel Castro Temporarily Relinquishes Power to His Brother Due to Illness

    HAVANA Jul 31, 2006 (AP)— Fidel Castro announced Monday night in a letter read by his secretary live on state television that due to illness he was temporarily relinquishing the presidency to his brother and successor Raul, the defense minister.

    In the letter read by his secretary Carlos Valenciaga, Castro said he had suffered gastrointestinal bleeding, apparently due to stress from recent public appearances in Argentina and Cuba, and had to undergo an operation.

    Sure....he's in trouble
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    Maybe he should suffer from necrotic body syndrome and just DIE. Good riddence to bad blood.

    Castro needs to go, and so does his regime
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    U.S. Moves Toward Cuba Worry Locals (Madison Communists in a Tizzy!)
    Madison.com ^ | August 1, 2006 | Anita Weier



    Sister city activists and other Madisonians with ties to Cuba said today they fear the Bush administration will use the transition in power from Fidel to Raul Castro as the occasion to activate a plan to replace that nation's communist system.

    They said such a move could lead to war.


    The Associated Press reported today that Bush told a Miami radio station on Monday, prior to the announcement of Castro's illness, "If Fidel Castro were to move on because of natural causes, we've got a plan in place to help the people of Cuba understand there's a better way than the system in which they've been living under."


    Ricardo Gonzalez, a former Madison alderman who was born and raised in Cuba and founded the Madison-Camaguey Sister City Association, said today he was taken by surprise by Castro's illness and that he also is troubled by the reports prepared by the U.S. Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba, which is headed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
    "(This) is nothing more than a plan by the United States for the annexation of Cuba. A section of the plan is being kept secret about what the U.S. might do in event of the death or incapacity of Fidel Castro," Gonzales maintained. "We will see if this administration chooses this moment to put into action this secret plan for transition.


    "This is a wrong policy that will not work. I don't know what the U.S. can do other than military intervention, which at this point would be unthinkable, considering that we have our hands full in the Middle East. We ought to pursue a policy of engagement with the Cuban government that will lead to an improvement of relations and peace."
    Robert Kimbrough, a retired UW-Madison English professor and prominent local Socialist who has gone to Cuba 16 times with Madison delegations, is also worried by the two reports.


    "It is disgusting. The 2004 report said, 'We pledge to help the Cuban people, and a new transition Cuban government, as you move away from the totalitarian Communist dictatorship and toward a free and representative democracy.'


    "On July 10, the final report to the president is specific that when Fidel goes they will put this into motion," Kimbrough said. "The president of the National Assembly in Cuba has labeled this as no less than a declaration of war.

    "My question is how our wonderful, sophisticated government will respond. They have asked for $80 million to get the transition to democracy started, beginning with $20 million right away. They recommended this to the president and he accepted the report."


    Self-government: Dr. Bernard Micke, a UW Health physician who heads the Wisconsin Medical Project that takes medical supplies to a hospital in Cuba, said today that, personally, he has concerns about possible U.S. action.
    "The Cubans are capable of governing themselves whether Castro is there or not. It is not a dictatorship to the degree that our government would like to paint it. This is a very functional government at the local and national levels," Micke said, stressing that he was speaking as an individual, not for the completely non-political humanitarian Medical Project.
    "The United States should not be meddling. We would certainly not want some other country to have a plan in place as to how to run our country if something happened here. That is a very imperialistic approach, that we have some God-given right to have a hand in Cuba's affairs."
    On course: Robert Skloot, a UW-Madison professor of theater, drama and Jewish studies who has visited Cuba five times and taken students there once, said it is premature to say what might happen in Cuba.
    "Things will be worked out in the next few weeks. The succession has been decided many years ago and so it is taking its course as to what should happen if Castro is incapacitated," Skloot said.


    Regarding any possible U.S. involvement, he said, "It would be disastrous and lead to more complications than the United States is either able to deal with or would want to do in the world community."
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    Ricardo Gonzalez, a former Madison alderman who was born and raised in Cuba and founded the Madison-Camaguey Sister City Association, said today he was taken by surprise by Castro's illness and that he also is troubled by the reports prepared by the U.S. Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba, which is headed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
    "(This) is nothing more than a plan by the United States for the annexation of Cuba. A section of the plan is being kept secret about what the U.S. might do in event of the death or incapacity of Fidel Castro," Gonzales maintained. "We will see if this administration chooses this moment to put into action this secret plan for transition.
    And his proof is? Because I'm sure an elected official, especially an immigrant that gave up all allegience to his former nation, would never make such an accusation without proof. Right? I mean its obvious that he is somehow within a national security loop as an elected Alderman correct? Don't all elected bodies from PTA leaders to Den Mothers get automatic national security clearance so they can peruse the archives of Presidential Evil Plots?

    When you google his name does it matter he is nowhere to be found unless he's that three strikes lifer or professional Golfer that is... It just means we should believe everything he says without question or proof since he is from Cuba and used to be an Alderman. We all understand this right? You all are aware that this ex-small area elected official is fully updated on Top Secret files within our U.S. government as are all small officials of least note?

    Really. It appears that according to Mr. Gonzalez all you have need to do is win even a tiny election like class president of the third grade and you are instantly made aware of all the President's most coveted evil plots.

    But truthfully... I hope he is right. I hope he is soooooooo right that we ratify Cuba as the 51st state of the union this time next year.

    I feel totally cheated! I know Rick and Sean and they NEVER leak any cool secrets to me. Guess I have to become an Alderman first.
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    (English-language translation)
    In pointing out Fidel Castro’s work in favor of Puerto Rican sovereignty, Puerto Rican Independence Party (PIP) Chairman Rubén Berr*os today wished the Cuban leader a prompt recovery.
    “Linked to the tradition of [Cuban poet and patriot José] Mart*, the President of Cuba has been a constant, lifelong defender of Puerto Rico’s independence before all the international forums, particularly the United Nations,” the pro-independence leader stated in a press release.
    Berr*os, who is also Honorary President of the Socialist International, sent his written message to the President of Cuba through Ricardo Alarcón, President of the Assembly of People’s Power of Cuba.
    ‘‘Those who believe in a Latin America for Latin Americans recognize the President of Cuba’s enormous anti-imperialist and Latin Americanist work,” the pro-independence leader, who keeps a long friendly and respectful relationship with the Cuban president, pointed out.
    Yesterday, after almost five decades leading the Cuban government, Castro stepped down provisionally for the first time and gave his powers to his brother Raúl following intestinal surgery.
    For his part, PIP Executive President Fernando Mart*n told the Associated Press that, at this moment, the party understands that the most appropriate way to express its solidarity with the Cuban government is letting it know of its interest in Castro’s prompt recovery.
    “At this moment, we are doing what is appropriate on behalf of our party, what we are doing is joining in the fervent wish of the vast majority of the Cuban people in wishing President Fidel Castro’s prompt improvement,” he said.
    ‘‘If something else has to be done in the future, we will do so taking into consideration the circumstances of the moment,” he added without going into details.
    Castro, who is almost 80 years old, indicated that, during several weeks, he will be away from his duties in the government and as leader of the Communist Party of Cuba.
    As expressed by the leader, his 75-year-old brother Raúl will be in charge “in a provisional character” as First Secretary of the Communist Party, President of the Governing Council, and Commander-in-Chief of the Revolutionary Armed Forces.
    The responsibility of being the chief promoter of the public-health campaign - formerly a function of the president’s - will fall on José Ramón Balaguer; an identical position regarding education will be shared by Ramón Machado Ventura and Esteban Lazo.
    Meanwhile, the role of promoting the energy revolution will be assigned to Vice-President Carlos Lage, Castro stated in a directive he himself signed in which he announced the transfer of duties.
    Mart*n was not surprised by these appointments which, according to him, must have been discussed internally for some time now since the Cuban leader’s age makes an eventual succession an increasingly pressing possibility. ‘‘I was not surprised at all by the appointments that were made, but everybody hopes that these appointments are temporary, because everybody wishes that (Castro) recover soon,” he pointed out.
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