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    Socialism-Communism-Democratism - What's the difference? Part I


    The advent of the socialistic/communistic tenets of Karl Marx and their direct implementation by Lenin and Stalin has been a slow but steady political process in our country. When you read the manifestos of Socialism and Communism you are aware of phraseology which is full of hate. An emotion which is effectively hidden in the sentences which proclaim the rise of the workingman. You do not read of any love or of any real humanitarian instinct. Only the overt drive for power and conquest. The common denominators for all of the Marxian Credos has been the abolition of private property, the distribution of wealth, a completely secular society or an assault on any religion and the heavy taxation of all to the point of forced dependency on government or a governing class. This is also the present platform of our Democratist party. Marx, in his studies of economics, tended to focus mainly on capitalism. A way of life which he hated with a passion. Unfortunately, in all his works there is a lack of knowledge and sensitivity relative to the human equation.......that is, the innate human desire to create, to succeed, to possess self worth and to own.

    Basically the difference between socialism/communism and democratism in today’s American political atmosphere is only in degree and not in principle. As a Socialist the aim is to control; the objective of the Communist is to own; and the main tenets of the Democratist is an embracing of both.
    We have, in this instant, a distinction without a difference. To allow for difference between these entities would be to allow for a modicum of dignity for the so-called Democrat party. To understand that there is little difference is to face reality.

    Our history indicates that the influx of socialist thought and doctrine has been pervasive in the last half of the 20th century with no sign today of a let-up and it was possibly spawned just prior to the beginning of the last half of the past century and during the Franklin D. Roosevelt era. The seeds of the give-away programs could have been planted at this time and principally right after WW II when Russian communism, fresh from its victories of the war was emboldened to begin its stretching on a more serious note.
    At Yalta, Franklin D. exhibited his magnanimous, generous and expansive nature by giving Stalin the Balkan countries. Later he furthered this atrocity by allowing the Russians a good piece of Germany and half of Berlin. He made the appeasement philosophy of Neville Chamberlain appear as chicken feed.

    Roosevelt himself was an unwitting pawn to the communists at that time and possibly in being so weak to the demands of Stalin he could have been, either consciously or unconsciously, a willing adherent to the Bolshevik ideology.
    He didn’t stop there. He went local. This kind of fertile soil allowed Democratism to gain a toehold in the once proud Democrat party and created the vacuum which was later filled by the flower children of the sixties. And they filled it with an impact from which we are still reeling. The Roosevelt residue was the cadre already in place which welcomed with open arms these recalcitrant mop-head, pot-smoking misfits as they filled the open posts awaiting them. The legislative dominance of the so-called Democrats during this period exacerbated, encouraged and abetted their culture drenching hypotheses and destructive lifestyles into every aspect of our daily lives. They oozed, eased and seeped into every segment of our society which included the once considered standard bearing institutions of the day.
    They presented us with culture shock. The Democrat party, or whatever you wish to call this hodge podge (and I prefer Democratist) is basically a coalition of, illiterate radicals, intellectual snobs, guilt ridden nouveau rich, the major unions, abortionists, trial lawyers, radical environmentalists, the world of entertainment freaks, generally the field of education, gay rights activists and helter skelter revolutionaries. This broad brush excludes the naive in these categories but the others know who they are. The average American who claims to be a democrat is carried along with the backwash of this conglomerate and is obviously unaware of the quagmire into which he has been thrown and to which he is a willing dupe.

    After WW II we were warned on many fronts. I can still recall the Walter Winchell radio broadcasts and his lone voice via the radio waves. Some can also recollect the warnings of Senator Joe McCarthy who unfortunately lost his cause to ferret them out because of his zeal for operating beyond the limits of our constitutional safeguards. McCarthy did a great deal of flushing but the vermin hung onto the edges and with the help of the news media were able to keep from being swept down the drain.

    In his book, The Fight for America, Jesse Friedman stings McCarthy pretty well but then admits “In the last few years, CIA and KGB declassified information has confirmed to some degree McCarthy's accusations of Communist infiltration in our government. I am not calling Senator Joe McCarthy a liar. He was right. The problem is, he didn't know it!”
    James Forrestal was Under Secretary of the Navy under Roosevelt and Secretary of defense with Truman. The Forrestal diaries tell a story not often read or heard in our historical perspectives. There was also the fear of communistic spread here and abroad, the desire for a solid “World Organization,” and the recognition of an obvious leftist movement of the American Press.

    September 2, 1944 ---- In Forrestal’s letter to Palmer Hoyt, “I find that whenever any American suspects that we act in accordance with the needs of our own security he is apt to be called a god-damned fascist or imperialist, while if Uncle Joe (Stalin) suggests that he needs the Baltic Provinces, half of Poland, all of Bessarabia and access to the Mediterranean, all hands agree that he is a fine, frank, candid and generally delightful fellow who is very easy to deal with because he is so explicit in what he wants.”
    September 28, 1945 ---- Ambassador Patrick Hurley who had just returned from China told Forrestal, “a good many of the professional staff of the State Department had not merely been of no help to him but a definite hindrance.” He went on to relate that many of the American Correspondents were communistically inclined as well as many of the people in the State Department.”

    July 10, 1946 ---- While visiting Japan and MacArthur at this time Forrestal wrote that MacArthur stated he was critical and contemptuous of what he called the left-wing writers in the American press. They were, he said, playing the game, whether consciously or not, of the communists against the interests of their own country.

    As you can see, nothing has changed.

    The fact that we have a party in our country whose sole role is to win an election even if it aids and abets an enemy while we are at war is a sad commentary. It happened before and they got away with it. Maybe this is what James Russell Lowell meant when he wrote, “Democracy gives every man a right to be his own oppressor.

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    Good piece! Got a link for it?

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    Sorry about that here is the link and here is Part II

    http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/democratism_pt1.htm

    Socialism-Communism-Democratism –
    What's the difference?
    Part II


    George M. Haddad
    June 4, 2004

    In the American Revolution we had our Tories and our Loyalists who were willing advocates of the English continued rule. In WW II Norway had its Quislings and France was infested with Vichies. Since then we here have been infected with collaborators, legal rebels, insurgents, accepted traitors and the 4th estate which in truth is a 5th column. All who have knowingly aided and abetted the enemy. Especially since the Vietnam war our country no longer fully recognizes treason or the job description of a traitor.
    During and since Roosevelt the socialist and communist minded have infiltrated our government from top to bottom and have held heavy sway in the direction of what was once the Democrat party. During and since Vietnam the un-American forces at work attempting to undermine our country have grown bolder thanks to an absolutely apathetic public.
    The Democratists became emboldened when they discovered how completely they dominated their colleagues beginning with the war in Vietnam. They found that they could, through the aid of their cohorts in the news, actually determine the results of a war. They found that the American public could be easily swayed and in this discovery were able to recruit more and more followers.
    Our soldiers won the "skirmishes" in the field but the Democratists won the battle for North Vietnam right here at home. And their treachery went unpunished.
    On April 18, 2004 in a Detroit News article Tom Sowell pointed out,
    "Support for the war eroded and demands that we get out reached a crescendo. The irony in all this is that the communistic insurgents were beaten decisively during the Tet offensive. But what they lost in battle in Vietnam the communists won in the American media and in public opinion shaped by the media."
    In later years, after the communists were firmly in power in Vietnam, they admitted that the Tet offensive was a military disaster for them. The Premier of N. Vietnam stated — "That if it hadn't been for your rebels and collaborators we would have sued for peace but because of them we had too much going for us."
    General Vo Nguyen Giop, commander of the North Vietnamese forces believed that their war strategy was valid and well grounded and well formulated but not sufficient for victory. He also stated that his military had been hard pressed to being victorious in any battle but they were encouraged to continue since the American troops were being knifed from behind with the cleaver of American public opinion.
    In an interview which appeared in the Wall Street Journal August 3, 1995, the then Colonel Bui Tin stated frankly "that the key to their victory was the American home front, and that they were encouraged to fight on by all the anti-war demonstrations in the United States." He further acknowledged that "Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."
    Today's Democratists, under the temporary leadership of John Kerry, continue to allude to the war in Iraq as "just like Vietnam." Their purpose of course is to demean our country, give the enemy hope, and win the presidential election. They are unwittingly correct. It IS just like Vietnam. Traitors then and traitors today. No difference. Vintage Marx. Subverting our efforts and our country was and is the name of the game. They just pulled out their old and successful play book.
    The man on the street today who thinks he's a democrat and is following a democrat cause should be challenged with the following:
    • Do you believe: in the equal distribution of wealth;
    • the fomentation of class envy and the superiority of a collective society; in the principle that government should soak the rich;
    • in that perversion is a commodity to be virtued and extolled rather than just understood;
    • in rewarding and encouraging the indiscriminate proliferation of unwed mothers;
    • in that laws should protect the criminal at the expense of the victim; in that government should provide, protect and dominate your life from cradle to grave;
    • that the UN is a viable, efficient and effective world peace keeper and that our soldiers should be under its command;
    • that political correctness promotes respectful unity rather than resentful conformity and that free speech should be subverted to its subjective whims;
    • that higher taxes are the means to solving our national debt;
    • that government should fund everything that moves;
    • that pitting class against class strengthens our nation;
    • that money directed to the defense of our country should be re-directed to the agents of social engineering;
    • that competition should be eliminated;
    • that private corporations are the cause of all our problems;
    • and that the student achievers should be held back so that non-achievers do not lose their self esteem.
    This is but the tip of the iceberg. We are faced today not with civilhatred. An uncommon trait in the history of the American political system. This should not be unexpected since the leftists are now so much in control of the Democratist party and the American citizenry has been so brain washed and desensitized to socialist jargon, they no longer fear what once would have been a citizen backlash. The philosophy of Karl Marx is now unabashedly accepted. differences of opinion but with actual pronounced
    Samuel Adams remarked to the traitors of his day — a day which recognized treachery on the home front,
    "If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
    The last half century of dumbing down our education system and its graduates has taken its toll. Not knowing American history and not being able to develop a feel as to the tremendous sacrifices of our forefathers in bringing us to where we are has been an invitation to not taking advantage of its fulfillments, unwittingly repeating its former mistakes and not appreciating fully the wonderment of its unique creation.
    The democrats who today are ignorantly supporting the democratists must take heed. Open your eyes, listen to what these traitors are saying, re-ignite your beliefs in this the greatest country in the world and act accordingly.
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    The Goals of Communism
    The Naked Communist ^ | January 10th, 1961 | Cleon Skousen

    Communist Goals (1963) Documention below

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    Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

    Current Communist Goals

    EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    Thursday, January 10, 1963

    Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

    At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

    [From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

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    Note by Webmaster: The Congressional Record back this far has not be digitized and posted on the Internet.

    It will probably be available at your nearest library that is a federal repository. Call them and ask them.

    Your college library is probably a repository. This is an excellent source of government records.

    Another source are your Congress Critters. They should be more than happy to help you in this matter.

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    You will find the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto interesting at this point.

    Click here to see them listed with brain-challenging comments.

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    Webmaster Forest Glen Durland found the document in the library. Sources are listed below. The quote starts on page 259.

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    Microfilm:

    California State University at San Jose Clark Library, Government Floor Phone (408)924-2770 Microfilm Call Number: J 11 .R5 Congressional Record, Vol. 109 88th Congress, 1st Session Appendix Pages A1-A2842 Jan. 9-May 7, 1963 Reel 12

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The book was found in the off campus stacks, was ordered and checked. The quote below was checked against the original and is correct. The few errors in the copy from the Congressional Record are shown in [ ] .

    The quote starts on page 259.

    California State University at San Jose, Clark Library stacks call number: Naked Communist HX 56 S55

    Book title page: Skousen, W. Cleon. Naked Communist Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co. C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.
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    WHY LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS
    California Political News ^ | 31 August 2006 | Dr. Jack Wheeler


    Doesn't it seem odd that the kids who started the 60s anti-establishment protest riots on college campuses with the Free Speech Movement (Berkeley, 1964) are the college professors or politicians today who most vehemently suppress free speech among their students or constituents in the name of political correctness?

    How can this be? How can worshipping at the shrines of Diversity, Tolerance, and Multiculturalism result in trials and expulsions for students, or jail for citizens, who express ideas with which the worshippers are not in agreement?

    The answer is the intimate connection between Subjectivism and Fascism.

    The core metaphysical assertion of liberals is that there are no absolute truths, factually or morally. What's true for you may not be true for me, it's all a matter of perspective, who are you to say what is right or wrong, true or false.

    Truth is a matter of subjective opinion, it is relative to the values of different people. This belief, which lies at the very center of the liberal view of the world, is known as Subjectivism or Relativism.

    It's opposite, Objectivism, the assertion that there are in fact absolute truths, both moral and factual about the nature of reality regardless of anyone's opinion or desires, horrifies liberals. They think such an assertion leads straight to tyranny and fascism.

    Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), the founder of Fascism as a political movement (after the Latin fasces, the bundle of rods used by Rome to symbolize strength through unity) vehemently disagreed.

    In his 1921 essay Diuturna (The Lasting, that which endures), Mussolini made it clear that moral relativism was his rationale for Fascism:

    If relativism signifies contempt for fixed categories and those who claim to be the bearers of objective immortal truth, then there is nothing more relativistic than Fascist attitudes and activity. From the fact that all ideologies are of equal value, we Fascists conclude that we have the right to create our own ideology and to enforce it with all the energy of which we are capable.

    Liberals follow Mussolini's conclusion to the letter. Preaching tolerance, they have no tolerance for anyone's opinions but their own. Anyone they disagree with they call 'racist' or 'sexist' or 'homophobic' or some other denigration.

    Liberal intolerance, of course, goes way beyond mere disagreement and name-calling. They want to criminalize the beliefs and actions of those with whom they disagree.

    They succeeded this week in California. On Tuesday (August 29), Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a law (SB 1441 sponsored by a lesbian actress turned state senator, Sheila Kuehl) specifically requiring "any program or activity that...receives any financial assistance from the state" to support transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality or lose state funding.

    The Democrat-run California Legislature is passing an entire raft of such fascist laws. Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez made it bluntly clear: "Our purpose is to outlaw traditional perspectives on marriage and family in the state school system."

    He and his fellow Democrats have the Orwellian nerve to call their legislative fascism "tolerance education."

    Liberal "tolerance" is forcing people at the point of a gun to believe and act as liberals demand. You don't get more fascist than that.

    California's Attorney General, Bill Lockyer, is, however, trying. He is actually trying to criminalize disagreement on "global warming."

    In his lawsuit against such prominent scientists as MIT Professor of Meteorology Richard Lindzen and Harvard astrophysicist Sallie Baliunas, Lockyer accuses them of being "climate skeptics," who are playing "a major role in spreading disinformation about global warming."

    Until recently, Lockyer was positioning himself to run for California governor, challenging Schwarzenegger. They could have had a debate as to which one is more fascist than the other. (No one should be shocked by Schwarzenegger, by the way. He married a Kennedy!)

    The only way to combat liberal lunacy like that on exhibit in California is to attack it at its source: liberal subjectivism leading directly to fascism.

    It will do no good for liberals to bleat about religious absolutists, be they Christian or Moslem, who believe they have a right to force people into behaving as they want because that's what the Bible or the Koran says.

    That's a red herring. Don't let liberals switch the issue. The issue here is the fundamental contradiction in their world-view, not anyone else's. Liberals cannot argue for relativism in morality and claim there are no moral truths, then claim their moral values magically have more validity than anyone else's.

    When you argue there are no objective moral truths, the only way to settle a moral disagreement is at the point of a gun. Mussolini understood this, and he had the intellectual honesty to admit it.

    Liberals understand it too, but they don't want to admit it, least of all to themselves. It still makes them fascists, nonetheless.

    Demonstrating how and why liberals are fascists is their Achilles' Heel. Name-calling is a liberal specialty, and they are fond of calling their opponents "fascists." But using reason and logic to expose how they are demonstrably in fact fascists can be effective.

    Combat liberalism by publicly exposing it as fascism. California would be a good place to start.

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    Nickelodeon pimping che guevara Reader Rob D. sent me the following email:
    First off I'd like to say great job with the blog, I've been reading it for some time now and I visit it reapetedly throughout the day. That being said, I'm a 32 year old American-born Cuban. I'm married and have 2 little girls, one who's almost 4 and the other almost 2. We watch a ton of children's programing and I could swear that tonight I saw the absolute lowest of the low. Nickelodion has been promoting a new show called the Naked Brothers Band about 2 little kids who start a band. these guys can't be older thann 12 or 13. I could swear that one of them in the comercial is wearing a Che shirt with a Cuban flag on it! Plase post and ask if anyone else has seen this. I am 99% sure I saw it but it was a quick clip and I was so shocked I almost came out of my seat. I feel like there must be something we can do about this. I was very impressed with the speed in which the word got out there about the Target stores and the quickness of the results. Anyway, hope you can post about this and thanks alot for your time. To be honest, I was skeptical. But unfortunately, Nickelodeon's "Naked Brothers Band" kids show is, indeed, pimping the Butcher of la Cabaña:
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