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    The "REAL" Mass is coming back!
    I've waited four decades for this...YEEEEHAH!!!

    The new indult would permit any priest to introduce the Tridentine Mass to his church, anywhere in the world, unless his bishop has explicitly forbidden it in writing
    Any bishop that bans this Mass will face a firestorm like he's NEVER seen before.


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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...397919,00.html




    Pope set to bring back Latin Mass that divided the Church


    By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

    THE Pope is taking steps to revive the ancient tradition of the Latin Tridentine Mass in Catholic churches worldwide, according to sources in Rome.

    Pope Benedict XVI is understood to have signed a universal indult — or permission — for priests to celebrate again the Mass used throughout the Church for nearly 1,500 years. The indult could be published in the next few weeks, sources told The Times.

    Use of the Tridentine Mass, parts of which date from the time of St Gregory in the 6th century and which takes its name from the 16th-century Council of Trent, was restricted by most bishops after the reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65).

    This led to the introduction of the new Mass in the vernacular to make it more accessible to contemporary audiences. By bringing back Mass in Latin, Pope Benedict is signalling that his sympathies lie with conservatives in the Catholic Church.

    One of the most celebrated rebels against its suppression was Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who broke with Rome in 1988 over this and other reforms. He was excommunicated after he consecrated four bishops, one of them British, without permission from the Pope.

    Some Lefebvrists, including those in Brazil, have already been readmitted. An indult permitting the celebration of the Tridentine Mass could help to bring remaining Lefebvrists and many other traditional Catholics back to the fold.

    The priests of England and Wales are among those sometimes given permission to celebrate the Old Mass according to the 1962 Missal. Tridentine Masses are said regularly at the Oratory and St James’s Spanish Place in London, but are harder to find outside the capital.

    The new indult would permit any priest to introduce the Tridentine Mass to his church, anywhere in the world, unless his bishop has explicitly forbidden it in writing.

    Catholic bloggers have been anticipating the indult for months. The Cornell Society blog says that Father Martin Edwards, a London priest, was told by Cardinal Joseph Zen, of Hong Kong, that the indult had been signed. Cardinal Zen is alleged to have had this information from the Pope himself in a private meeting.

    “There have been false alarms before, not least because within the Curia there are those genuinely well-disposed to the Latin Mass, those who are against and those who like to move groups within the Church like pieces on a chessboard,” a source told The Times. “But hopes have been raised with the new pope. It would fit with what he has said and done on the subject. He celebrated in the old rite, when Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.”

    The 1962 Missal issued by Pope John XXIII was the last of several revisions of the 1570 Missal of Pius V. In a lecture in 2001, Cardinal Ratzinger said that it would be “fatal” for the Missal to be “placed in a deep-freeze, left like a national park, a park protected for the sake of a certain kind of people, for whom one leaves available these relics of the past”.

    Daphne McLeod, chairman of Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, a UK umbrella group that campaigns for the restoration of traditional orthodoxy, said: “A lot of young priests are teaching themselves the Tridentine Mass because it is so beautiful and has prayers that go back to the Early Church.”

    TRADITIONAL SERVICE
    # The Tridentine Mass is celebrated entirely in Latin, except for a few words and phrases in Greek and Hebrew. There are long periods of silence and the priest has his back to the congregation

    # In 1570, Pope St Pius V said that priests could use the Tridentine rite forever, “without scruple of conscience or fear of penalty”

    # Since the Second Vatican Council, the Tridentine Mass has been almost entirely superseded by the Mass of Pope Paul VI

    # Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who took the lead in opposing the reforms, continued to celebrate the old Mass at his seminary in Ecône, Switzerland, and formed a dissident group. He was excommunicated in 1988

    # The advantages of the Mass, according to the faithful, are in its uniformity and the fact that movements and gestures are prescribed, so that there is no room for “personalisation”


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    Itta Misa es. Deo gratias.

    I think it's a mistake to allow censure by bishops written order. This call for more dissent, splinters, bickering. Why argue about rites? Why allow or invite arguments?

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    I'll go with you, Joey. I like the quiet, the reverence, the focus on Christ rather than on one another. Fellowship atmosphere is fine, but let that be after Mass.
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    Why is this important? It's seems alien to me - as if i would understand or benefit from a religious service in Serbo-Croatian more than I would in my own language. Nothing wrong with it, to each his own, if it makes you happy and is worshipping the Lord, that's all good.

    However, when it comes to the personal relationship with God, through Christ, it is primarily via the prayer offered up by the individual. Nobody says this better than this gentleman has...

    "Lord, teach us to pray"

    Luke 11:1-13

    Week 10 (March)
    The Lord's prayer is more -- much more -- than something to be memorized for points in vacation Bible school. Jesus gave it to His disciples when they realized how inadequate their prayer lives were in comparison to His.
    For us, these few short phrases recorded by both Matthew and Luke are a gold mine of spiritual truth. Among other things, Jesus in this prayer says absolutely nothing about a special "prayer language." When Jesus' disciples came to Him asking to be taught to pray, Jesus did not give them a lesson in unknown tongues. He did not say, "begin repeating over and over again some word of praise."
    What did Jesus hold up to His followers as the perfect type of prayer? His response is a model of simplicity, brevity, and directness. It is clear from the passage in Luke that God wants us to communicate with Him in words that most naturally express our feelings: This model prayer -- the Lord's Prayer, we call it -- is clear and concise. There is no staccato, hollow repetition, nor any unintelligible syllables.
    It is clear from Jesus' teaching that He doesn't want us to come thoughtlessly into God's presence. Any praying based on Jesus' model will include expressions of reverence to God. It will acknowledge the coming Kingdom.
    Jesus taught us how to present to God our daily needs. And He models for us a prayer for forgiveness-both the receiving and the giving. He also shows us that we have the privilege of asking for divine guidance.
    Then our Lord follows up this model prayer, with an emphasis on the need for perseverance in prayer.
    He assures us that God is good to them that wait upon Him, that our prayers will be answered.
    In all of this, there is no hint of a secret, heavenly language. Surely, if there was a better way to pray than the intelligent use of our own native language, Jesus would have told us.
    One of the most delightful books on prayer I've ever seen is based on the premise that God wants us to pray in our own language and dialect. It is titled God Is No Stranger. I first saw a copy of it in 1970 at the missionary editor's home in the mountains of Haiti.
    The book is a collection of prayers by Haitian Christians, illustrated with black and white photographs of Haitian life. The prayers are colorful, simple, brief, and direct. They obviously flow right out of the daily lives of those believers. They are exactly the kind of prayers Jesus taught us to pray in Luke 11.
    I have often heard the same kind of praying in Italy. Freed from the fetters of an over-ritualized religion, Italian evangelicals have a refreshing prayer life. Having realized that they don't have to drone on and on through memorized prayers, they pray right out of their hearts. That type of praying is the kind of natural expression which the Lord taught His disciples. It's the kind of free, open communication with the Creator that our hearts long for. It is the type of relationship that He wants us to have with Him.

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    I like that it is not to be a mandatory service, but simply allowed to be done.

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    Hiya Sean,

    Why is this important? It's seems alien to me - as if i would understand or benefit from a religious service in Serbo-Croatian more than I would in my own language.
    Why is this important? Well my friend, I'll speak only for myself. The Tridentine (Latin) Mass was the Mass of my childhood. This was the Mass I was brought up on...raised on. This was the Mass that was said in Catholic Churches throughout the world for FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS.
    Then the Vatican II Council changed (overhauled) the Mass in 1965 (I believe).
    I NEVER liked this "new" Mass with it's reverse altar, English language, handshaking, guitar Masses. and it's Folk Masses.

    Not only did they change the language...they changed the words. SACRED words. Words that to me had meaning and tradition and history behind them.
    They changed responses...they changed when to kneel, sit stand.
    They even changed the words to "The Lord's Prayer"! This prayer was taught to the kids of my generation as "the prayer that Jesus teaches us to pray".
    How could they possibly change that??? One minute it's sacred and the next minute...."nahhh I don't like that...let's change it"??

    The history...the tradition....the feeling of familiarity was gone. I know you have respect for those values and can empathize with me.

    I'm 54 now and finally after all these years, I have a sense that..."I'm going home". FINALLY.

    Sean, the Tridentine Mass always has Missals that you could follow along with in English. There was never a language barrier for anyone. The "old" Mass was in Latin for a LONG time.....hundreds and hundreds of years. People grew up with that Mass. The Latin language is an ancient language for an ancient and sacred Sacrament.

    As a kid I went to two "public schools and one "parochial school".
    In the parochial school...a "Polish school"...not only did we go to Masses said in Latin....in school we learned all our prayers in Polish too. We even learned our Christmas carols in Polish.
    Language barrier?....No way.

    I always had a love for the Tridentine Mass. I felt "at home" at that Mass...something I haven't felt in over 40 years.

    I'll tell ya something else.
    I hate the way the Church has "civilians" handing out Holy Communion. I hate the way the Church has women handing out Communion.

    As a kid we were taught that ONLY a priest could give Holy Communion because he was a priest and even then ....he could ONLY use a certain two fingers. You were NEVER allowed to touch the Communion wafer...that was striuctly forbidden and a sin!

    Since 1965? Not only do they have "civilians" (lay people) dispensing Communion....you are allowed to take it with your hand! See why the Tridentine Mass is special to many many Catholics?

    Yeah...people can say..."well, the important thing is your relationship with Jesus and His Father...all that other stuff is unimportant".
    NOPE. The Mass is a SACRED ritual. The Mass is when the priest consecrates bread and wine into the body and blood of our Savior...Jesus Christ. ...and the Mass should NEVER have been changed "willy nilly".

    Sacred rituals....tradition....history...a feeling that I belong again...THATS why this is important to me.

    For over FOURTY YEARS the Catholic Church has tried it's best to extinguish the "old" Mass from the hearts of the faithful....and it hasn't worked. They hoped that when a generation or two passed....the strong feelings would die along with the parishoners. I've spoken to people in the last 24 hrs who have actually cried when they heard the news that the "old Mass" is returning to some places. Yeah...I was one of them that had tears in their eyes...but I had joy in my heart.

    Why is it important? Cause... "I'm goin home again", pal. Me and millions of others. PRAISE JESUS!






    PS....I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF YOU AS TO WHAT'S SO SPECIAL ABOUT THE TRIDENTINE MASS TO YOU.
    PUT YOUR FEELINGS ON THIS THREAD!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Bagadonuts View Post
    Hiya Sean,



    Why is this important? Well my friend, I'll speak only for myself. The Tridentine (Latin) Mass was the Mass of my childhood. This was the Mass I was brought up on...raised on. This was the Mass that was said in Catholic Churches throughout the world for FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS.
    Then the Vatican II Council changed (overhauled) the Mass in 1965 (I believe).
    I NEVER liked this "new" Mass with it's reverse altar, English language, handshaking, guitar Masses. and it's Folk Masses.
    Ahhh, now I think I understand... your perspective is from a pre-existing status which was taken away by some supposed "higher authority".

    Not only did they change the language...they changed the words. SACRED words. Words that to me had meaning and tradition and history behind them.
    They changed responses...they changed when to kneel, sit stand.
    They even changed the words to "The Lord's Prayer"! This prayer was taught to the kids of my generation as "the prayer that Jesus teaches us to pray".
    Right, I am getting it. I think it goes toward my beloved phrase of "Christianity vs. Churchianity".

    I completely understand the change in sacredness, of the accepted beliefs.

    This was also part of vatican II, correct? The same Vatican II that picked up where Vatican I left off due to European Continental War and marked a wholesale change in many Catholic views, from the points you are making to the RCC's views of Islam.

    Am I correct?


    The history...the tradition....the feeling of familiarity was gone. I know you have respect for those values and can empathize with me.
    Yeah, Brother, I most certainly do. Absolutely so!

    I'm 54 now and finally after all these years, I have a sense that..."I'm going home". FINALLY.
    With your faith in Christ Jesus, I have no doubt whatsoever. I am happy, elated at this turn of events. And also it will make my own discourse and work-in-progress concerning my wife and kids that much less contentious... impeccable timing.

    The Lord indeed works in mysterious ways, but His timing is impeccable, nay, perfect!

    On the language thing, I understand the ethnicity issues involved, implicitly so. I have always been an internationalist with regard to issues such as these, which is to say, the truly Christ-centered faith we have all been intended to partake in.

    We are being in-gathered, the whole Bride of Christ is being in-gathered.

    The wedding feast is soon to occur, when the Father sends His Son to collect His bride.

    Joey, Thank you for splainin' it to me from your key prespective. I am truly enriched in more ways than you will ever know.

    Blessings to you and yours!!!
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    My feelings are identical to yours Joey. I couldn't have explained it as well as you did, my friend. Yet it isn't just about us "old" people w/ childhood memories not giving it up. My son, Zjeng was not raised in the Latin Mass, yet he is extremely happy about this. Zjeng, why don't you write something here to explain why this is so important to you? I'm sure others here are just as interested as I am as to why a young person prefers this anciet one to the modern Mass that you are used to.
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    The Mass, Itta Misa- means go forth (and preach the gospel) Deo gratias -thanks be to God. Thats a noun, verb, but no sentence. A Sacrament- an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace. The profound mystery and power of the Mass is not akin to the Last Supper, it is equal.

    As for my personal preference for Latin, a bit as Joey- nostalgia, tradition, but just a teensy bit.

    The true value in Latin is - morphology- concentration- trying to seep up the luscious supper Jesus offers us each day. Jesus came in the WORD. The current Mass is liturgical- it's Biblical, but the original version is quite a bit Moore (pun intended) meaty- Jesus came in the FLESH: As for the SPIRIT value, one must need concentrate- and Our Father can be less than Pater Noster as daddy is to Abba. Heaven's sakes? en Caelis- this evokes hitzpah or something Jewish- just thinking clearer. Dominum non sum dignum- sino quam verbum tuum anima mea sanum.

    Christ Crucified and Risen came in the BLOOD and WATER. These essential elements can be tasted, received and multiplied at any Mass.

    The Holy Spirit part is that breath part-well Jesus came in the breath as all men. Gregorian chant and just following black flat notes is a bit more meaty than "Shout from the highest mountain"- the praises of the Lord." Yet I appreciate stringed instruments at Mass.

    1-3 hours of formalized prayer is better fitting as a celebration of Jesus' life, death and resurrection, than a 15-20 minute fireball Mass, frequent commie sermon, and donuts are Jesus "modernist approach". This approach- the commie subversion of the Catholic Church is not reversible by Latin.

    I doubt much will come of this possible projected proclamation. Big city folks can usually find a Latin Mass. Or read the old missal. Or just pray the Bible extra. It seems a faltering gesture by Ratzinger to erradicate "schismatics". The end result is nothing- too bad, but the pope, and any Mass may be "on Ice". very soon. Nice gesture. Sursum cordiae. And lift them up high, for persecution is near.

    However, even if- and I hope I'm wrong- there are no serious major world events- threatening Christianity, and Catholicism even more specifically, the proposed revision is no revision at all- any priest can say Latin Mass, with permision from his bishop- the new revision means only that he can do so unless his bishop forbids it, which invites dissent, division, - all over better WORDS which denote charity, but can't make charity.

    Underground Catholics in commie countries never heard Latin Mass. Services were short, due to secret police visits, Communion was often self-administered.

    In the good old days- teens to thirties, plenty of Mexicans illegally crossed the border just to attend Mass. That's nostalgia.

    Dominus vobiscum.

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    FYI

    http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1531512006

    Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), says the expected revival of the old Latin mass that was replaced in the 1960s by modern liturgy in local languages would be a "grand gesture" meeting one of his demands.
    The Swiss bishop, successor to the late SSPX founder French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, also expects the Vatican to lift the 1988 excommunications of Lefebvre and four bishops -- including Fellay -- whom he consecrated without Rome's approval.
    "Things are going in the right direction. I think we'll get an agreement," Fellay told journalists in Paris at the weekend. "Things could speed up and come faster than expected."

    canto XXV Dante

    from purgatory, the lustful... "open your breast to the truth which follows and know that as soon as the articulations in the brain are perfected in the embryo, the first Mover turns to it, happy...."
    Shema Israel

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    Very well, then. There’s not much I can say, but at the behest of my mother I post:

    I’ve not ever been a part of the Tridentine mass. However, there is a level of reverence that is there that I don’t think I could ever get from the vernacular mass.

    I know, doctrinally, this is the same mass, they’re both as valid and both as efficacious, just as any other liturgy (regardless of rite) would be. But, I also know that the Latin Rite is now disconnected culturally from it’s ancient roots.

    Just compare:
    The Byzantine Rite which still celebrates their liturgy in Greek, and it’s completely sung!!!
    The Maronite Rite which still celebrates their liturgy in the very language that Christ used - Aramaic!!!
    ( here is a link to all the rites within Catholicism: http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/c..._churches.htmm )

    From what I understand, it seems all the other rites of Catholicism have kept their ancientness. I’ve thought for a long time that there was no need to get rid of / restrict the Tridentine mass. It's funny, but it's more of the older people that seem to have a problem with this decision than the younger Catholics. The younger generation of Catholics (40 and younger in general) never really understood why it was banished in the first place. We look forward to its return. We look forward to having a more concrete feeling of One-ness.

    Besides, we need a resurgence of Latin Teachers.

    Peace â€*
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    http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_a...p?art_id=10884

    Special Report
    'Bishop, I Have the Pope on Line One'
    By Thomas J. Craughwell
    Published 1/17/2007 12:07:27 AM


    The other week Pope Benedict XVI phoned a few French bishops, and it wasn't to find out what they got for Christmas. According to Britain's Catholic Herald, the pope was doing a bit of old-fashioned arm-twisting in response to these bishops' very public opposition to Benedict's intention to grant Catholics more access to the pre-Vatican II rite of the Mass.

    On October 30, 2006, ten French bishops, including the archbishop of Strasbourg, released a letter expressing their fear that "the extension of the use of the Roman Missal of 1962 makes the direction of the Second Vatican Council relative... [and] would also risk harming unity among priests as well as among the faithful."


    One of the signers of the statement, Bishop Andre Lacrampe of Besancon, has been quoted as saying, "One cannot erase Vatican II with a stroke of the pen."

    Is Pope Benedict about to abolish Vatican II? Not quite. What he is doing, in fact, is implementing one of the council's guarantees, spelled out in its document on the Mass, Sacrosanctum Consilium, "In faithful obedience to tradition, the sacred Council declares that holy Mother Church holds all lawfully acknowledged rites to be of equal right and dignity; that she wishes to preserve them in the future and to foster them in every way." Of course, it didn't pan out that way. In 1969 Pope Paul VI virtually banned the traditional Mass and imposed on the Church the Novus Ordo Missae, the New Order of the Mass that has been the norm in Catholic parishes around the globe ever since.

    Paul VI's Mass was no simple vernacular translation of the traditional text; this was a major edit-and-rewrite job that recast the role of the priest, the people, and even God's place in the liturgical life of the Catholic Church. It was, in short, a revolution. And as Robespierre could tell you, once a revolution gets rolling, it's hard to tell exactly where it will end up.

    Once the new Mass was put in place, the progressives went on a rampage the likes of which the Church had not seen since the Reformation. On Sunday mornings, while the parish clergy hung out in the rectory, members of the laity distributed Communion to congregations who were instructed to stand, not kneel, to receive the Body and Blood of Christ, and urged to take the Sacred Host, the consecrated bread, in their hands rather than receive it on their tongue. Then came the church "wreckovations" -- altars were smashed, communion rails ripped out, statues hauled away to the dumpster or banished to obscure corners of the church, and elaborately decorated interiors whitewashed. The documents of Vatican II did not call for any of these soul-and-gut wrenching innovations, but when confronted the progressives claimed that their actions were in keeping with "the spirit of Vatican II."

    The-not-too-subtle message of this revolution was, if the Mass, the thing the Church held most sacred, could be monkeyed with, then it was open season on doctrine, discipline, religious authority, religious vows, church music, education, sexuality, marriage, and life itself. As the Catholic Church sank into chaos, many Catholics jumped ship. A 1958 Gallup poll found that in the United States 75 percent of Catholics went to Mass every Sunday; today the number has dropped to 25 percent. By the way, on any given Sunday in France, the bishops can count on seeing about five percent of the population.


    MASS ATTENDANCE WAS NOT the only thing that suffered in the upheavals that followed Vatican II. Today 53 percent of American Catholics believe that one can have an abortion and still be a good Catholic. And 70 percent of American Catholics in the 18-44 age group say they do not believe that the Eucharist is truly the Body and Blood of Christ, that it is only a symbol of Jesus.

    As for religious vocations, the statistics are dire. In 1965, 1,575 new priests were ordained in the United States; in 2002 there were 450 ordinations. In 1965 there were 600 seminaries in the United States; today there are about 200. In 1965 there 180,000 nuns in the United States, 104,000 of whom were teaching sisters; in 2002 there were 75,000 sisters, only 8,200 of whom were in the classroom. As for the famous Christian Brothers who staffed so many Catholic schools, in 1965 there were 912 young men preparing to take their vows; in 2000 there were only seven. (All these numbers come from Kenneth Jones' Index of Leading Catholic Indicators).

    In the aftermath of Vatican II, the Catholic Church has split into roughly two camps. First, there are the liberals/progressives, bishops, clergy, and laity who see Vatican II as a complete break with the Church's past, its doctrines as well as its traditions. On the other side are the conservatives/traditionalists, those bishops, priests, and laity who insist that Vatican II must be read in light of the Church's doctrine and traditions. Until now the progressives have had the conservatives on the run. But since his election, Benedict XVI has said openly that Vatican II is just one in a long series of church councils, and to argue that it swept away everything that came before it is to mangle the council documents beyond recognition.

    Naturally the two factions have aligned themselves with two opposing schools of theology. The conservatives defend the Church's traditional God-centered view of the universe. Nothing conveys their perspective better than the traditional Mass in which the priest, the altar boys, and the people all face the altar, with the tabernacle that contains the Host and the crucifix above the altar as the focal points of their prayers. This God-centered perspective also dominates the conservative ideas about themselves and how they interact with their neighbors. It can be summed up in a basic question, "How is one saved?" And the basic answer is, "By keeping God's commandments."


    THE THEOLOGY OF THE PROGRESSIVES is decidedly man-centered (oops! make that person-centered). Again, it starts with the Mass, where the priest stands at a table facing the congregation (by the way, the Vatican Council didn't call for that either). The focus then has become the interplay between the priest and the people, and in all too many instances priests have found it hard to resist the temptation to be an entertainer, urged on by his congregation's appreciative laughs and rounds of applause that are common these days in forward-thinking parishes. God is an afterthought in such places. The tabernacle is off in a side room, usually out of sight, and the crucifix is portable, carried in at the start of Mass and carried out when it is over -- and for good reasons: the presence of the Real Presence, the image of Christ dying on the cross make the "worship space" too churchy, which could put a damper on the folksy "I'm okay-you're okay-God's okay" spirit of the congregation. In terms of theology the progressives tend to be utilitarian: the issues of a celibate clergy, same-sex marriage, abortion, and euthanasia are difficult and make many people uncomfortable, so the easiest solution to such thorny issues is to sanction them all.

    Then in 1988 Pope John Paul II threw the conservatives a lifeline, granting permission (the ecclesiastical term is indult) for priests to say the traditional Latin rite of the Mass. In a document entitled Ecclesia Dei (The Church of God), the pope declared, "Respect must everywhere by shown for the feelings of all those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition by a wide and generous application of the directives already issued some time ago by the Apostolic See for the use of the Roman Missal according to the typical edition of 1962." But there was a hitch: priests who wished to say the old Mass, and Catholics who wished to attend it, had to apply to their local bishop for permission. In response to such requests, few bishops could be described as "generous."

    Conservatives cheered when Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI because he had written and preached in support of the old Mass and often celebrated it publicly himself. Ever since the election conservatives and liberals have been waiting to see what Benedict will do. Now he is ready to act.

    Unlike the implementation of Paul VI's Mass in 1969, Benedict XVI's decision to take the handcuffs off the old Mass is not a revolution but a challenge. He is not going to abolish the new Mass. Instead he is setting up the traditional Mass with its traditional theology as an alternative to what is available in the typical Catholic parish.

    At this writing the document has not been released, and no one at the Vatican who has read it has leaked its full contents. One thing is certain, however: With this document the pope is undermining the monopoly the progressives have had on parish life. For the first time in a long time Catholics who have clung to the traditional teachings of the Church and cherished the traditional liturgy will have a place they can call home.


    Thomas J. Craughwell is an author and commentator on Catholic issues. He lives in Bethel, Connecticut.
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