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    Folks...

    I've seen a lot of information about this lately, since sone of you brought it up in another thread.

    I'm starting this thread specifically for this subject.

    I'd ask that each of you that have so far contributed specific information regarding this subject in the other threads capture and transfer your messages here so this can be a repository for data on this subject.

    Thank you.

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    An American Hiroshima?
    Frontpagemagazine ^ | 8-2-05 | Jamie Glazov/Joseph Farah

    Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Joseph Farah, the founder, editor and chief executive officer of WND and a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host. He is also the publisher of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, a premium, online, subscription intelligence news service.

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    FP: Joseph Farah, welcome to Frontpage Interview. It is a pleasure to have you here.

    Farah: Thank you, Jamie.



    FP: In one of your recent G-2 bulletins, you discuss the evidence suggesting that Osama is planning what he calls an "American Hiroshima" and that he already has the means to do it. Al Qaeda has apparently already smuggled nuclear weapons into the U.S. This is simply terrifying. Can you tell us a bit about this?



    Farah: Several reporters and top intelligence analysts -- people including me, Yossef Bodansky, the former terrorism guru to the U.S. Congress, Paul Williams, author of the upcoming book, "The Al Qaeda Connection," and others -- have been working quietly and independently for years on this issue of al-Qaida's acquisition and plans for nuclear weapons. What's happening is that this independent work has led to surprisingly similar conclusions -- that al-Qaida has nuclear weapons, probably many of them, and that some of them, according to a variety of sources, have already been smuggled into this country using our porous borders and with the help of criminal enterprises like the MS-13 gang.



    There is no question, based on captured documents and captured al-Qaida leaders that Osama bin Laden has been planning his "American Hiroshima" for many years -- long before Sept. 11, 2001. When you hear U.S. officials -- from President Bush, to Vice President Dick Cheney, to the head of the FBI and Homeland Security all telling us about the "inevitability" of a terrorist attack on the U.S. with weapons of mass destruction, this is what they are talking about. They haven't come right out and made the announcements about what they know is the threat because they have determined it might create a panic. We're not reporting anything the White House doesn't know. We're not reporting anything the CIA doesn't know. We're not reporting anything the FBI doesn't know. We're just reporting what the American people don't know. And since the government is doing next to nothing to protect the American people, it seems appropriate to let them in on the dirty little secret.



    There is a major threat to the U.S. civilian population from al-Qaida's existing nuclear arsenal -- and, based on the evidence, I believe some of that arsenal has already been delivered to this country.



    FP: What are Al Qaeda's prime targets? Why?



    Farah: Again, according to captured documents and captured al-Qaida leaders -- and some defectors -- the plans are to detonate multiple nuclear weapons in major U.S. cities -- either all at once or over a period of days. You can guess most of the prime targets -- New York, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. The only surprise, according to my sources, is that al-Qaida's list is not based on the cities with the most population. The list is based on where most American Jews live. So you see some cities like Miami and Las Vegas and San Francisco on the list. Dates are very important to al-Qaida, as we have come to know, and one of the dates mentioned in connection with this "American Hiroshima" plan is Aug. 6, the anniversary of the U.S. nuclear attack on Hiroshima in 1945. No year has been set, but it is worth noting that this Aug. 6th is the 60th anniversary of that attack.



    FP: If Al Qaeda really perpetrated this horror, what would be the result?



    Farah: Thre's an old joke that goes: "One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day." Even one nuclear detonation in a major U.S. city, of course, would mean not only the deaths of potentially millions, but it would wreak havoc on the U.S. economy -- which is a always a goal with bin Laden. He doesn't want to just kill Americans. He wants to defeat the USA. He wants to bring us to our knees. And he wants to give all the glory to Allah.



    FP: Could you expand a bit on the sources for this information? How do we know they are reliable?



    Farah: Personally, I have been working on this project for nearly four years. This story has not come together all at once. It has come together piecemeal over that period of time. I have had what I consider to be credible sourcing on 95 percent of this for quite awhile. I withheld it from publication because I couldn't even believe it myself. I didn't and don't want it to be true. I have no desire to be right about this. I want very badly to be wrong. This is not a story that can advance my reputation, credibility, career or business interests. If I'm wrong, which I hope I am, people may some day laugh at me. I will gratefully accept that. If I'm right, nobody is going to be saying, "Gee, that Farah told it like it was." They will be focused on the national disaster that has struck us -- just as I will be. About 90 percent of the information I have gathered on this plan is from publicly sourced documents available to you and anyone else who wants to spend the time looking for them. It's only the analysis and interpretation that requires skilled -- and sometimes unnamed -- intelligence sources.



    FP: Tell us a bit about Al Qaeda’s cooperation with the Russians on this matter.



    Farah: I don't know of any official cooperation with the Russian government. But al-Qaida has purchased the services of former KGB officers and former Spetznaz special forces troops with knowledge of maintaining and detonating the nuclear weapons it has obtained from the former Soviet Union. In addition, Russia is playing a very dangerous game in continuing to conceal the whereabouts of nuclear weapons planted on U.S. soil during the Cold War. Al-Qaida is furiously looking for these weapons with the help of those Russian agents it has procured for a price. If Russia wanted to save the world from this potential holocaust, it could contribute by telling the U.S. government where the nukes are buried -- before al-Qaida finds them. There is a very strong likelihood that if a nuclear weapon is detonated in the U.S., it will be a Russian nuclear weapon.



    FP: Russia had already smuggled nuclear weapons into this country? How come they didn’t set them off? Because of mutually assured destruction? Because communism crumbled in Russia and the Cold War came to an end? How come the Russians haven’t disclosed their location? Because they still see us as potential enemies and are saving the nukes for a rainy day?



    Farah: I believe the simple doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction did keep an uneasy peace between the USA and Soviet Union for a generation. But today Russia needs to tell the U.S. where those nukes are buried. It is an ongoing act of war to conceal these weapons of mass destruction in our country. Too many defectors have confirmed their presence on our soil. We need explanations from the Russians. To date they have even tried to deny they ever made suitcase nukes. President Bush needs to use his relationship with Vladimir Putin to get to the truth before it is too late. How would we respond as a nation to a nuclear terrorist attack in our country knowing the weapons used against us originated in Russia? Would Russia not be accountable in any way?



    At least one high-ranking Russian KGB agent said indeed that some in his country still believe war between our countries is "inevitable" so the weapons must remain concealed. That is, to say the least, unacceptable.



    FP: How did we get here? Could this have been prevented?



    Farah: Since the reports indicate the nuclear devices came across the Mexican border -- along with thousands of sleeper al-Qaida agents -- it seems apparent to me that we have left our back door wide open. We have used our military to project force around the world, but we have not secured the perimeter. If there is a major terrorist act in this country again -- something equivalent to 9-11 or worse, President Bush will have no one to blame but himself. No longer will we be able to look back at the failings of the Clinton administration over eight years -- and there were many -- that led to Sept. 11. Bush has been in power now for five years. It was his decision not to secure the borders.



    FP: Why wouldn’t the Bush administration secure our borders? What are the advantages of leaving them unsecured? Is it too politically incorrect to secure them?



    Farah: I've asked this question myself over and over. It is the most frequently asked question I hear from my radio audience and from the thousands of emails I receive from readers. President Bush candidly said it was a matter of cheap labor a few months ago. I believe that is dead wrong. I don't believe there is anything cheap about this labor. It is bankrupting our health-care system. It is taking jobs away from law-abiding American citizens. It is raising crime rates and it is threatening our national security.



    No, I believe there is another more sinister reason. There is a master plan for global governance being plotted in meetings of groups like the Council on Foreign Relations. You can read its reports. And, I believe this open-borders policy is a direct result of those plans, which have been secretly adopted by our highest leaders, including President Bush.



    FP: This scenario and information is all truly horrifying. Is there anything you can tell us that would give us grounds for optimism? Is there any hope? What can be done to prevent an American Hiroshima from transpiring, for by the evidence you present, it seems inevitable.



    Farah: Pray very hard.



    FP: I hear you Mr. Farah. I would never dismiss prayer – for gizzillions of reasons. But apart from prayer, my friend, what can we do? This seems so hopeless because I want to suggest that we announce that mutually assured destruction will come into effect immediately if we are hit, but then. . . .who the hell do we target in a revenge attack? We can’t blow up a city of the enemy because there is no city of the enemy and as a civilized democracy we simply can’t do anything of this nature. Or can we? Must we make some kind of barbarian threats that might deter these terrorists? I can’t see how because, unlike the communists, they aren’t even interested in self-preservation anyway. They want to die. This is truly depressing. Do you have any suggestions besides the counsel to pray?



    Farah: Raising awareness of the problem certainly gives the American people the option of making their own contigency plans. I know people like Buffett are. I know the federal government is. Why shouldn't the American people be made starkly aware of the impending threat?



    FP: As you are aware, Dr. Jack Wheeler has argued that this whole thing – the Al Qaeda plan “American Hiroshima”etc. – is a hoax. He says it is total nonsense that Soviet suitcase nukes are here in the U.S., that there were no cell phones in 1988 (to trigger them), etc. I must admit his argument that Osama would never use a nuclear bomb even if he had one because we have thousands to strike back is not quite convincing. We have no one to strike back in this terror war (in terms of a country) and Osama and his ilk aren’t particularly afraid of death. Aside from this, can you deal a bit with his dismissing of the claims?



    Farah: I love Jack, but the cell phone is 30 years old. I had a cell phone in 1988. Jack's memory is a little faulty here. All one really needs to do is listen to people like President Bush, Dick Cheney, Warren Buffett and others who say not only is it possible, it is "inevitable" that nuclear terrorism will happen.



    FP: Well, before we go, let me try this one more time and in a different way: suppose we all become starkly aware of the impending threat. Besides praying, is there anything we can actually do about it? Please give us some hope.



    Farah: I don't use the term "inevitable." As a Christian, I don't like that term. But that's what Bush, Cheney, Ridge and many other public officials have said. I would like us, as a nation, as a people, to try to prevent it. Maybe it's that feeling of inevitability that has our public officials paralyzed. At the very least, we can minimize the impact of a future attack by denying the terrorists easy continued entry into this country by closing the borders. We should demand of our Russian friends that they come clean -- privately would be OK -- about the buried nukes in the U.S. We should get serious about the threat from within this country posed by terrorists operating within the confines of mosques and charities. We should stop discriminating against Arab Jews at the FBI, in military intelligence and in law enforcement in this country. They are fluent in the language and culture of our enemies and that would be of immense help to our national security. We must get on a war footing and enlist the help of the American people in combating this enemy. There are many things we can do -- even though the hour is late.



    FP: Can you tell us a bit about the discrimination against Arab Jews at the FBI and other law enforcement agencies in this country? Why would this be happening? It makes absolutely no sense. Why do we like hiring enemies instead of friends?



    Farah: We have many documented reports of Arab-American FBI translators who speak approvingly of Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida being retained and relied on for sensitive intelligence-collecting positions. At the same time we have documented reports of Arab Jews -- people who fled for their lives from Iraq, Syria and other Arab countries being systematically denied those same translating positions. Why? Apparently because they might have loyalty to Israel! It is blatant anti-Semitism being demonstrated by the U.S. government. Not only is it a self-destructive and counter-intuitive operation, it is blatantly illegal. But it continues still.



    Just think how many Arab Jews there are in this country who know the language and know the culture. Why aren't we tapping that resource? Some 750,000 Jews were expelled from the Arab countries in the last 50 years. Not all of them went to Israel. Many of them live right here in the U.S.



    FP: Mr. Farah, it was a pleasure to have you here with us today. Thank you for coming to share this vital and traumatizing information. We won’t blame the messenger. Take care my friend.
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    American Hiroshima: Old News
    GlobalPolitician.com ^ | July 18, 2005 | Ryan Mauro

    American Hiroshima: Old News Ryan Mauro - 7/18/2005 This week, the mainstream media seemed shocked when a number of news sources, including WorldNetDaily.com released a report about an "American Hiroshima" plot against the United States by Al-Qaeda The plot calls for Al-Qaeda to detonate nuclear weapons on American soil, having arrived over the Mexican border with the assistance of MS-13 gang members. The report claims Al-Qaeda has already obtained a large number of nuclear weapons currently being maintained by Pakistani and Russian scientists.

    Why the shock? In November 2002, this author provided similar and nearly identical information to the American public and intelligence agencies compiled from private and open-sources. The result was a research project of an enormous size, summarily published on this site with the entire version published on WorldThreats.com. Thus, we were quite surprised when this report rocked and shocked the mainstream media over two years after we had already published the same information.

    Our original report, entitled "Exposing the Next Wave of Spectacular Terrorism: Terrorist Possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction" seems antiquated as it had been tailored to the address the concerns at the onset of Operation Iraqi Freedom, including the possibility of retaliatory terrorist attacks. Although there were several subsequent updates, we have re-compiled our information, now over two years old, to illustrate we sounded this alarm bell in 2002.

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    What Bin Laden Sees in Hiroshima
    Washington Post ^ | February 6, 2005 | Steven Coll

    At a conference on the future of al Qaeda sponsored by Los Alamos National Laboratory last month, I posed a dark question to 60 or so nuclear weapons scientists and specialists on terrorism and radical Islam: How many of them believed that the probability of a nuclear fission bomb attack on U.S. soil during the next several decades was negligible -- say, less than 5 percent?

    At issue was the Big One -- a Hiroshima-or-larger explosion that could claim hundreds of thousands of American lives, as opposed to an easier-to-mount but less lethal radiological attack. Amid somber silence, three or four meek, iconoclastic hands went up. (More later on the minority optimists. They, too, deserve a hearing.)

    This grim view, echoed in other quarters of the national security bureaucracy in recent months, can't be dismissed as Bush administration scaremongering. "There has been increasing interest by terrorists in acquiring nuclear weapons," Mohamed ElBaradei, the Egyptian director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the world's chief nuclear watchdog, said in a recent interview, excerpts of which were published in Outlook last Sunday. "I cannot say 100 percent that it hasn't happened" already, he added, almost as an afterthought.

    Worried yet? Then you might agree that there is too little specific, rigorous, apolitical discussion of this threat available to the public. In an era when Americans know they have reason to be afraid -- yet seem at times to know more fear than reason -- even the unthinkable requires transparent debate. Here's a provocation, in service of the cause of inspiring such debate: In focusing all-out on nuclear aspirants such as Iran and North Korea, the United States may be distracting itself from an even graver problem.

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    The al-Zawahiri message of yesterday was an operational order to execute long-planned attacks.

    Expect execution in 2 to 14 days.

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    We must get on a war footing and enlist the help of the American people in combating this enemy. There are many things we can do -- even though the hour is late.
    Yeah, right. While in a restaurant, I observed a group of people pulling over a newspaper w/ breaking front-page headline news about the recent London bombings. They all began conversing and pointing out that we were having record-breaking temperatures! That says it all.

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    11:34 PM EST 8/6/05 - All Clear on the Miami Front. Thank God!
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    The anniversary of Hiroshima was a theory based upon AQ's three-year old chatter about an "American Hiroshima". However, my theory was based upon the western calendar of anniversaries and not this islamic one.

    Today is the western anniversary of the African emabassy bombings according to western calendars. Last week was the anniversary of the atttacks on September 11, 2001 according to the islamic lunar calendar.

    Still, with al-Zawahiri's execute OPORDER to worldwide AQ cells we expect, based upon historical data, that a series of significant attacks will occur within the next two weeks, both here and world-wide. There are also serious indications of major unrest possible in Pakistan on August 14th, Pakistan's Independence Day.

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    I like how Zark's tape followed shortly after Zawa's. I guess they're gonna get their Jihad on. let's hope it winds up about as potent as the last tube bomb.

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    The single reason that the last London tube bombs all fizzled was due to the fact that these Al Qaeda terrorists home-brewed their TATP (triacetone-triperoxide). TATP was the detonator in these backpack IED's. TATP once manufactured degrades quickly and becomes less likely to explode. Thankfully, this is exactly what happened in London.

    I know many here are not following the events on the Homeland terrorism front closely... but be advised... the recent explosion at the Romulus chemical plant (Detroit, MI) was a terrorist act.

    XXX gallons of XXXXXXXXXX were stolen immeidately prior to the first detonation at the plant. Employee's were forewarned of the attack and that is why no one in the plant was harmed... they'd all been evacuated. The local JTTF investigating.

    Somewhere in the Detroit area there is very probably a TATP "factory" working as we speak. A nearby Detroit suburb, Dearborn, has the highest concentrated population (30%) of muslims in the United States. Only Toronto, Canada has a larger muslim population in all of the North American continent.

    Given the shelf life of TATP...

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    Osama's Biographer Says Nukes In U.S.
    Border used to smuggle WMDs inside America, says source

    Al-Qaida has smuggled tactical nuclear weapons and uranium into the U.S. across the Mexican border and is planning to launch a major terrorist attack using a combination of nukes and dirty nukes, according to an interview with Osama bin Laden's biographer, Hamid Mir, in WorldThreats.com.

    The information confirms reports previously published in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin and in a new book by Paul L. Williams, "Dunces of Doomsday."

    "I came up with this conclusion after eight years of investigation and research in the remote mountain areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan. I traveled to Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Syria, Uzbekistan and Russia and met dozens of people," Mir said. "I interviewed not only al-Qaida operatives but met scientists and top U.S. officials also. I will have the details in my coming book. At least two al-Qaida operatives claimed that the organization smuggled suitcase nukes inside America. But I have no details on who did it. But I do have details about who smuggled uranium inside America and how."

    Mir claims his information is based not only on what al-Qaida operatives, including bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, told him, but also upon his own independent research as a journalist. Mir says his upcoming book, a biography of bin Laden, will disclose al-Qaida's nuclear attack plans.

    "As far as I know, they smuggled three suitcase nukes from Russia to Europe," Mir says about al-Qaida. "They smuggled many kilos of enriched uranium inside America for their dirty bomb projects. They said in 1999 that they must have material for more than six dirty bombs in America. They tested at least one dirty bomb in the Kunar province of Afghanistan in 2000. They have planned an attack bigger than 9-11, even before 9-11 happened. Osama bin Laden trained 42 fighters to destroy the American economy and military might. Nineteen were used on 9-11, 23 are still 'sleeping' inside America waiting for a wake-up call from bin Laden."

    Mir said al-Qaida operatives told him that tactical nuclear weapons were smuggled over the Mexican border before Sept. 11, 2001.

    Mir said again he believes al-Qaida may use its nuclear arsenal after the U.S. attacks Iran in an effort to stop its nuclear weapons program.

    "This is my opinion," he says. "No al-Qaida leader has ever admitted that they are working with Iran. I also think that, maybe, the Iranians will organize some attacks inside America and you will accuse al-Qaida."

    Asked why al-Qaida hasn't used nuclear weapons it already possesses, Mir said: "They are waiting for the proper time. They want the U.S. to be involved in a mass killing of Muslims, so that they will have some justification. That is what I was told by a top al-Qaida leader in the Kunar Mountains of Afghanistan."

    Mir made similar comments in an earlier interview with G2 Bulletin.

    Hamid Mir's credibility skyrocketed when he accurately predicted in G2 Bulletin last month the imminent release of a new recorded communiqué from bin Laden through al-Jazeera, the Arabic TV network. Two days later, bin Laden's tape was the focus of international news coverage.

    "If you think that my information and analysis about bin Laden's location is correct," said Mir, "then please don't underestimate my analysis about his nuclear threat also."

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    Russian Soldier Vanishes in Detroit Police are looking for him

    Published on Apr 9, 2014 Russian Soldier Vanishes in Detroit Police are looking for him



    New findings support authenticity of 911 caller claiming to be kidnapped Russian soldier trapped in Detroit warehouse


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    DETROIT, MI -- The mysterious 911 call Detroit police received Tuesday sounds like the plot for a Quentin Tarantino film.

    A man with a Russian accent called 911 twice Tuesday morning. He sounded distressed, police say. He said he'd been kidnapped, stabbed and was being held captive in an abandoned Detroit warehouse. Trying to help the dispatcher locate him, the man mentioned a river and street names that could have been Jefferson and Chene.

    Police say the caller claimed to be a Russian soldier on vacation in Detroit. And he called from a Russian phone number, Detroit Police Chief James Craig revealed Wednesday.

    What occurred after the call was an epic manhunt. As many as 60 law enforcers from the Detroit Police Department and partner agencies spent the next 10 hours searching 35 warehouses from the former Packard plant south to the Detroit River.

    The search was called off Tuesday night, but Craig said the investigation is still pending.

    It's unclear if it was a hoax, or real.

    "I'm not going to give you a final call on it because I don't know," Craig said. "We treated it as a serious situation."

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    Vanished?
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    He didn't vanish. He was never there in the first place.

    Here's what happened.

    Some Russian with access to a Sat phone was surfing on Google Earth and he calls the Detroit PD.

    He makes up some cockamamie story about being an officer and that he's injured, requiring an immediate, massive police response.

    When asked what landmarks...he describes them from orbit.

    He then gets a big chuckle when these schmucks air the story.
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    I can't see the video so I have no idea what's going on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Patriot View Post
    I can't see the video so I have no idea what's going on here.
    They PD got a call and the caller identified some local landmarks....so he must be there. Right.
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    dry run or prank?

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    Dry run.
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