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    Russia's 5th Generation Fighter To Commence Tests In 2009
    Russia expects to begin test flights of the fifth generation fighter plane in 2009, while talks are underway for Indian involvement in the project codenamed "prospective frontline aircraft".

    "The first flight has been tentatively set for 2009," head of the United Aircraft Corporation Alexei Fyodorov told Russian media.

    During President Vladimir Putin's India visit in January last, New Delhi and Moscow had reached a political decision to jointly develop the fifth generation fighter on the basis of a project prepared by Sukhoi Design Bureau.

    The two sides are currently negotiating on the financial aspects of the agreement as Moscow has proposed to invest part of the rupee debt New Delhi owes to Russia.

    The fifth generation fighter will be equipped with new engines capable of imparting thrust for accelerating its speed in seconds from zero to Mach-2 (twice the speed of sound), radio Mayak reported.

    According to it, smart ammunition and beyond visual range missiles capable of "hitting a nail" are being developed for arming the new fighter, which would also have stealth features based on Russian "cold plasma" technology capable of absorbing radar signals.

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    Drawings of 5th Generation Russian Fighter Handed Over to Manufacturer


    Elaboration of working construction documentation (WCD) for the G5 fighter jet of Russia has been completed, RIA Novosti reported with reference to Air Forces Commander-in-Chief Col.-Gen. Alexander Zelin. The drawings have been passed to a manufacturer that will make a development prototype.

    Most likely, the G5 aircraft developed by Sukhoi Design Bureau will be produced in series at facilities in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. A maker of engines will be determined via a tender.

    Sukhoi Design Bureau has been developing a front aviation G5 fighter jet of PAK FA Project since late 1990s. The promising aircraft is also known under the names of I-21, T-50, Izdelije 701. According to the chiefs of Russia's Air Forces, this jet will be tested in summer of 2009 and launched into mass production early in the next decade.

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    Russia To Build Fifth-Generation Fighter Prototype Soon
    Russia will soon start construction of a prototype fifth-generation fighter plane, Air Force Commander Alexander Zelin said Wednesday.

    The Russian Defense Ministry has long announced plans to develop a new-generation fighter under the federal defense procurement program until 2015, and contracted the Sukhoi Design Bureau, the developer of the famed Su fighter family, to design the new aircraft.

    "At present, we have completed the development of technical documentation for the fifth-generation fighter and passed it to the production plant, which will start construction in the near future," Colonel General Zelin said.

    The new fighter will be built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft-manufacturing plant in Russia's Far East, but the manufacturer of the engines will be chosen in a tender, the general said.

    Sergei Ivanov, a first deputy prime minister supervising the defense industry, said in May that Russia's fifth generation fighter will take to the skies by the end of 2008.

    The Air Force commander also said Wednesday that Russia would deploy advanced unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) with flight range of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles) and flight duration of up to 12 hours by 2011.

    The UAVs of both fixed- and rotary-wing types will perform a variety of tasks, including reconnaissance, attack, retransmission of radio signals and target designation, the general said.

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    Fifth-Generation Fighter To Be Developed In Joint Project
    The development of the fifth-generation jet fighter is one of the most widely discussed issues in Russia's military.

    What's more, with its potential involvement in developing the jet fighter, India, one of Russia's long-standing partners in military technical cooperation, confirms its interest in Russia's future project.

    The new jet fighter is being developed under the PAK FA (Prospective (promising) Aircraft System of the Frontline Aviation) program to replace fourth-generation models now in service in Russian and Indian air forces.

    The Soviet Union launched fifth-generation fighter programs in the 1980s. By the mid-1990s, the Mikoyan Design Bureau developed the Project 1.44 warplane, also known as the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG MFI. The Sukhoi Design Bureau came up with the S-37 Berkut experimental supersonic forward swept-wing jet fighter. The S-37 aircraft was an advanced technology demonstration prototype not intended to be mass-produced as a fighter. However, due to the lack of funding, the Project 1.44 aircraft was not streamlined and never entered production either.

    By the late 1990s, it became apparent that existing fifth-generation fighter projects were becoming obsolete, that their production versions would be inferior to the brand new American F-22 Raptor air superiority fighter, and that even if finalized the air force would receive such warplanes a decade too late. (U.S. secret weapon: F-22-A Raptor in action. RIA Novosti video)

    As a result, in the early 2000s, the Russian Government made decision to develop an entirely new fifth-generation fighter. The Sukhoi, Mikoyan and Yakovlev Design Bureaus, all renowned for their fighters, offered several warplane versions.

    The project was eventually entrusted to Sukhoi, which refers to it internally as the T-50.

    Various maiden flight and supply deadlines were discussed from the very beginning. The T-50 was eventually scheduled to perform its first flight somewhere between 2008 and 2010. In late 2008, the commander of the Russian air force announced that the plane would first take off in August 2009.

    Mikhail Pogosyan, head of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, confirmed the information. "The progress that has been made by now suggests that we can begin the flight tests within one year," Mr Pogosyan said. Several versions of the aircraft are being discussed, including a two-seater model, and a carrier-based aircraft.

    In the summer of 2008, officials said the T-50 design had been approved and prototype aircraft blueprints sent to the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft-building plant (KNAAPO) in Russia's Far East, where jet fighters will be produced. The plant is currently building three prototype T-50 fighters for future tests, due to last five to six years, while mass production will not get underway before 2015.

    Although T-50 specifications have not been disclosed, it is known that prototypes and the first production aircraft will be fitted with 117S (upgraded AL-31) turbofan engines from Russian aircraft engine manufacturer Saturn. As a result, the T-50 will be a heavy fighter with a takeoff weight of over 30 metric tons and will have the same dimensions as the well-known Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker. The Tikhomirov Institute of Instrument Design, which had developed the Irbis radar for the Su-35BM Flanker, is now working on the T-50 radar. The new fighter's radar and fire-control system will be designs on the basis of the Su-35BM's systems.

    India is reportedly more interested in the two-seater version, while Russia, with its developed ground and air fight control system, plans to concentrate on the one-seater fighter. There is a possibility that the Indian version of the Russian fighter will be lighter and smaller, and thus cheaper.

    There have been reports in the past few months about the new fighter's exterior design. Judging by photographs of the prototype available online, the T-50 will resemble the American F-22, a fact easily explained by similar parameters on their technical specifications. However, it is yet undecided whether the model will eventually be used as a prototype.

    As of now, one can only make general conclusions on what kind of a machine it will be, based on the known parameters of their technical specifications. The new fighter should be:

    - multifunctional - capable of successfully hitting air, ground and water targets alike, including small and moving ones, in any weather or time of the day, against an enemy equipped with high-precision weapons;

    - super-maneuverable - capable of performing controlled flight at low velocity and large angle of attack;

    - largely undetectable by optical, infrared or radio radars; and

    - capable of taking off and landing on short runways.

    However, the term "fifth-generation" covers more than just the fighters. It also embodies a whole range of equipment to ensure advanced combat capabilities, including weapons, radio-electronic equipment, ground- and air-based supply and control systems.

    These elements are also under development, although not all projects are proceeding with equal speed and success. Nevertheless, they are all crucial to the program as a whole. Without them, the new fighter will remain a very expensive toy incapable of boosting the combat capabilities of the air force.

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    Russia To Start Flight Tests Of 5th-Generation Fighter By Yearend
    A Russian deputy prime minister said Monday that flight tests of a fifth-generation fighter will start in Russia by the end of 2009.

    "By the end of this year, the plane will rise into the air and flight tests will begin," Sergei Ivanov told journalists after a shipbuilding meeting in the Far East, adding that serial production will start in 2010.

    Russia's advanced multirole fighter is being developed by the Sukhoi aircraft maker, part of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), along with India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), under a preliminary intergovernmental agreement signed in October 2007.

    The first prototype is scheduled to make its maiden flight before the end of 2009.

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    Russia Unveils AESA Radar For PAK FA Fighter


    Russia unveiled the first element of its fifth-generation Sukhoi PAK FA/T-50 fighter during the Moscow MAKS air show, with Tikhomirov's NIIP having exhibited the type's active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

    The newly unveiled unit is intended for integration with Sukhoi's heavyweight fighter prototype, which air force commander Aleksandr Zelin says is due to fly in November or December. The aircraft was shown to President Vladimir Putin in its assembly phase during his May visit to the KnAAPO production plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

    Tikhomirov says the AESA antenna entered benchtesting in November 2008, and was mated with the radar's other blocks for an initial integration test "this summer". A second example to be produced for an operational prototype of the T-50 will be completed by mid-2010, it adds.

    NIIP has not provided any details about the new radar, beyond saying that its antenna contains more than 1,000 solid transmit/receive modules. The design is Russia's second AESA system, following the Phazotron Zhuk-AE being developed for the RSK MiG-35.

    Outwardly, the T-50 is believed to resemble the configuration of the US Air Force's Lockheed Martin F-22, and will share design features such as internally carried weapons and supercruise performance. The Russian aircraft will also have an integrated on-board sensor and flight control system which will include several radar antennas to provide a 360° coverage.

    Sukhoi will complete five prototypes for initial testing, including two to be dedicated for ground test activities. Initial trials are scheduled for completion in 2011-12, with the company expecting to produce an initial batch of aircraft for operational trials by 2015.

    Russia's initial batch of aircraft will be powered by NPO Saturn Item 117 engines, derived from the supplier's AL-31F series. A new engine will be incorporated with later production examples, with this likely to be a design proposed by MMPP Salut and based on the AL-31FM3.

    India is also seeking its own version of the T-50 under an agreement with Moscow. This is expected to feature some airframe differences and use Indian avionics equipment.

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    Russo-Indian 5th-Gen Fighter To Commence Flight Tests In January News
    January 4, 2010

    Russia has started initial tests of its futuristic fifth generation stealth fighter jet, dubbed the PAK-FA programme, which it is partnering with India. The PAK-FA, or the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) programme, as it is referred to in India, hopes to match, or outperform, the American F-22 Raptor.

    The F-22 Raptor, which is an air superiority fighter, is the worlds only existing fifth generation fighter aircraft programme. A related, fifth generation ground attack version, the F-35 Lightning II, is currently under development.

    An Interfax report, without specifying details of time, said that the first prototype of the FGFA rolled out on the runway of KNAAPO aircraft plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in the country's Far East. The test pilot switched on its engines and made two runs on the airstrip, during which breaks were applied several times.

    The PAK-FA will make several more taxi runs before making its first flight in January 2010.

    Under an agreement signed in October 2007, India is partnering the Russians on the programme and is developing its own two-seater derivative. The Russian version is a single-seater.

    According to sources, at least three prototypes of the PAK-FA aircraft have been constructed at the KNAAPO aircraft plant, and several Indian teams have visited the facility.

    Russia's deputy defence minister, Vladimir Popovkin, had announced in mid-September 2009, that the PAK FA, also known as the T-50, was scheduled to enter service with the Russian Air Force from 2015.

    The Russian Air Force will commence taking delivery of the PAK-FA only after taking full delivery of 48 4++ generation Su-35 fighters. The first of these long-range strike aircraft will enter service in 2011, with full deliveries completed by 2015.

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    SUKHOI 5th generetion jet fighter (FAN-ART)
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    There are three classic states of matter: solid, liquid, and gas; however, plasma is considered by some scientists to be the fourth state of matter because of its unique properties. Ionized refers to presence of one or more free electrons, which are not bound to an atom or molecule. The free electric charges make the plasma electrically conductive so that it responds strongly to electromagnetic fields.

    Plasma typically takes the form of neutral gas-like clouds (e.g. stars) or charged ion beams, but may also include dust and grains (called dusty plasmas).[1] They are typically formed by heating and ionizing a gas, stripping electrons away from atoms, thereby enabling the positive and negative charges to move more freely.

    The Radio Instrument Building Research Institute under the supervision of Academician A. Avramenko developed a plasma weapon capable of killing any target at altitudes of up to 50 kilometers.

    Engineers and scientists of the institute in cooperation with the National Research Institute of Experimental Physics (Arzamas-16), Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute, and Central Machine Building Research Institute prepared a concept of the international experiment Doverie (Trust) for testing of the Russian plasma weapon at the American ABM testing ground in the Pacific Ocean together with the US. The cost of the experiment was estimated at $300 million.

    According to Academician Avramenko, the plasma antimissile weapon would not only cost tens times less than the American SDI, but would also be much simpler in development and operation. The offered joint project could save expenditures on development of its own plasma weapon for the US. The plasmoid based on the energy of ground super-high frequency generators or laser (optical) generators creates an ionized territory in the trajectory of a warhead and in front of it, and completely disrupts the aerodynamics of the object's flight, after which a target leaves its trajectory and is ruined by monstrous overloads. The killing effect is delivered to the target at the speed of light. Category: Science & Technology




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    Went ahead and merged those two threads about the PAK-FA.

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    Sukhoi's PAK FA Fighter Completes First Flight
    1/29/2010

    Sukhoi has conducted the first flight of its prototype PAK FA fifth-generation fighter, with the aircraft having conducted a 47min sortie this morning.

    Flown from KnAAPO's Komsomolsk-on-Amur site, the PAK FA was piloted by Sergei Bogdan, and "performed excellently", says Sukhoi.

    "In the course of the flight we conducted initial evaluation of the aircraft controllability, engine performance and primary systems operation," says Bogdan. The aircraft's landing gear was also retracted and lowered during the first flight.

    The PAK FA is powered by two NPO Saturn "Item 117" engines, developed from the Item 117S design already flown on Sukhoi's Su-35 and a Su-27M testbed. The experimental aircraft's integrated flight control system controls the engines, along with all other major systems.

    Sukhoi says other key design elements include the use of composite materials, advanced aerodynamic techniques and measures to reduce the aircraft's engine signature, which it claims results in an "unprecedented small radar cross section in radar, optical and infrared range". The PAK FA is also equipped with an advanced phased-array antenna radar, it adds. Russia's Tikhomirov NIIP displayed an active electronically scanned array design for the fighter at last year's Moscow MAKS air show.

    The aircraft also has a strong resemblance to an image posted on NPO Saturn's website in 2007 (below) and reported on at the time by Flight International.

    "This is a great success of both Russian science and design school," says Sukhoi director general Mikhail Pogosyan. "The PAK FA programme advances Russian aeronautics, together with allied industries, to an entirely new technological level.

    "These [PAK FA] aircraft, together with upgraded fourth-generation fighters, will define Russian air force potential for the next decades," he adds.

    The first stage of flight trials involving the PAK FA prototype will last until 2012, when the Russian defence ministry and air force are expected to decide on the future of the project. A production version is expected to be designated the T-50.

    The new design could also form the basis of a proposed fifth-generation fighter to be produced in collaboration between Russian and Indian companies.

    "I am strongly convinced that our joint project will excel its Western rivals in cost-effectiveness and will not only allow strengthening the defence power of Russian and Indian air forces, but also gain a significant share of the world market," says Pogosyan.







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    Default Re: Russia's 5th Generation Fighter To Commence Tests In 2009

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    Anyone else notice just how VERY close this aircraft resembles the YF-23 prototype that northrup grumman built????


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    Yep. I saw that ev. Looks like a combination of YF-23, F-22, and Su to me...

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    PAK FA - Sukhoi T-50 First Flight part three !


    Russian New Stealth Aircraft T-50 PAK-FA. This plane is the first 5th generation Jet Fighter of the Russian AirForce. It is made in cooperation with India. First flight took place on January 28th - 2010 at the Sukhoi plant at Komsomolk-Na-Amur (GE : 50°36'12.20"N - 137° 4'52.58"E).
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    Russia-India fighter makes successful maiden test flight

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    AP Russian-made Sukhoi T-50 prototype fifth-generation fighter jet is seen at a test airfield near the Siberian city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Russia. Russia will set up joint venture company to build the aircraft. Photo: AP


    Russia’s new fifth-generation stealth fighter (FGFA), a joint project with India which is set to form the backbone of the two nations’ air power till the mid-21st century, made a successful maiden test flight on Friday.

    The plane performed “very well” during a 47-minute flight at an airfield in the far eastern city of Komsomoslk-on-Amur and met “all our expectations,” a spokesman for the Sukhoi Corporation, which designed the FGFA, said.

    The flight marked a breakthrough for Russia, making it the second country in the world after the U.S. to have built a fifth-generation fighter plane.

    The FGFA will also be a quantum jump for India as the first joint project with Russia where the Indian aviation industry will be a full-fledged partner.

    Under a 2007 inter-governmental agreement, the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited took a 50 per cent investment stake in the $8-billion project and will contribute 25 per cent of design and development work. The two countries will shortly sign commercial contracts and set up a joint venture company to build the aircraft.

    India will be responsible for supplying the plane’s navigation systems, mission computer, cockpit displays and will provide composites for the airframe. While the Russian Air Force has opted for a single-seater, the IAF will get a modified two-seater derivative.

    The Russian Air Force is expected to begin inducting the new aircraft in 2015. The twin-seat version for the IAF may be ready two years later.

    Each side plans to acquire 250 planes.

    Sukhoi head Mikhail Pogosyan voiced confidence that the FGFA will beat the U.S. F-22 and F-35 fifth-generation fighters in cost-effectiveness.

    “The joint Russian-Indian aircraft will not only strengthen the defence might of the Russian and Indian air forces, but will take a worthy place in the world market,” said Pogosyan, whose company’s previous project, the Su-30 fighter jet, has become a world bestseller. India has purchased 140 Su-30MKI and will build as many under licence.

    Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said he expected the FGFA aircraft to be very competitive in international markets because its price would be significantly lower than that of the American rivals.

    “I think by definition this aircraft will be able to occupy up to one-third of the market,” the analyst said.

    According to designers, the FGFA will be a truly stealth plane almost invisible to enemy radars: it will be 40 times harder to detect than the Su-30MKI.

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    Russia conducts first test of fifth-generation Sukhoi

    Rajat Pandit, TNN,
    30 January 2010, 03:40am IST

    NEW DELHI: Even as New Delhi and Moscow are now close to inking the detailed commercial contract for joint production of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), the advanced stealth jet tore into the skies for the first time in Russia on Friday.

    The 45-minute maiden flight of the Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA, the first `technology demonstrator' of the FGFA, at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur facility in Siberia was dubbed "successful'' by Russian officials.

    "It's a very encouraging development,'' said a senior IAF officer. IAF has reason to cheer since it hopes to induct 250 of these fighters towards its aim of building a true `expeditionary' aerospace force.

    Fourth-generation fighters typically revolve around multi-role capabilities but the FGFA incorporate stealth technology, composite materials, supercruise, thrust-vectoring and integrated avionics as well.

    Though the Russian military-industrial complex is still to recover from its steep downfall after the Soviet Union break-up, the Sukhoi T-50 is being billed as a rival to the American F/A-22 `Raptor', with a unit cost upwards of $140 million.

    While the Raptor is the only operational FGFA in the world as of now, another one, the F-35 `Lightning-II', is being developed jointly by US, UK and seven other countries.

    While the Indian FGFA will be based upon the Sukhoi T-50, it will be built to IAF specifications already handed over to Russia. "The detailed contract is being worked out... It has been in the making for some years now,'' Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) chairman Ashok Nayak told TOI on Friday.

    Defence minister A K Antony, on his part, has already declared that India wants the development of its FGFA to be completed by 2016 to ensure IAF can begin inducting it from 2017 onwards.

    India, of course, will have to share the FGFA development cost, which is expected to touch $8-10 billion, with Russia. Apart from the single-seater T-50 being developed by Russia, IAF wants a twin-seater version of the FGFA also.

    With a potent mix of super-manoeuvrability and supersonic cruising ability, long-range strike and high-endurance air defence capabilities, the FGFA will also have "a very high degree of network centricity'' as well as multi-spectral reconnaissance and surveillance systems.

    IAF's most lethal fighter currently is the Sukhoi-30MKI, which can be placed a little over fourth-generation, along with others like Eurofighter Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen and F/A-18 `Super Hornets'.

    IAF is banking upon the 230 Sukhoi-30MKIs contracted from Russia at an overall cost of around $8.5 billion to be the mainstay of India's combat fleet till well past 2020. IAF, in fact, is now keen to order another 50 Sukhois.

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    Meet the T-50, the JSF wake up call

    January 30, 2010 – 1:27 pm, by Ben Sandilands



    Russian TV screen grab of the T-50 first flight

    This is the T-50, making its first flight in eastern Russia this week. It changes everything in air defence and strategy.

    The defence establishments of the west, including the obsequious branch office of the JSF strike fighter project that comprises defence planning and procurement in Australia, have been warned about this development for a long time, and ignored it.

    They have endangered the very survival of this country by pursuing policies that will underscore the loss of air superiority that is already in train on a potent scale to our north.

    And they will continue to churn out absurdities about our preparedness and superiority in military technology, especially in the air, until Washington DC tells them an abrupt change of reality is the imperative, and that everything they said before is ‘no longer applicable’, as it hasn’t been for quite some time.







    The timing of the Moscow press conference which released the details and video shown in the above YouTube falls between President Obama’s first state of the union address and next Monday’s release of the US defence budget. Its use as a weapon of political influence has begun, not just for Russia, but India, which plans on acquiring 200 T-50s.

    Russia’s revenge for the Ronald Reagan Star Wars hoax? Not really. The T-50 is real. Star Wars panicked the fossilised power structure and economics of the Soviet Union and helped speed its inevitable collapse. But it wasn’t going to work as advertised either. The T-50 looks seriously workable, to a budget and timetable that will see it operational between 2015-2017, years before the JSF, if pursued, has a ghost of a chance of being deliverable in anything remotely resembling the spun time lines that Australia fell for when it announced a $3.2 billion order for 14 of the F-35s for ‘initial training and testing’ from 2014.

    Just how disconnected from reality was a decision that will have us spending a fortune on initial production F-35s at the same time as the bullshit free development program in Russia is putting its answer into operational service?

    Australia’s involvement in the JSF project is that of endorsing an early 1990s solution to our air power needs that has struggled to make meaningful progress toward readiness by the latter half of this century’s second decade.

    The basic numbers seem to have the T-50 capable of mach 2.5, a sustained lean fuel cruise at mach 1.9, a refuelling endurance of three or more hours and a payload of 7 tonnes of ordinance. It is a stealth design, with minimal radar visibility.

    Wing commander (retired) RAAF Chris Mills, who has strongly criticised the JSF and the public administration failures that lead to its selection on the Air Power Australia web site says:

    If the US intelligence agencies aircraft assessments of the PAK-FA were worth a penny, they would have been screaming for the build of additional F-22As, funded by F-35 cancellations, the development of the FB-22B with the missing IRST sensors and an ability to fly penetrating fighter-strike-recon missions over contested airspace, and a follow-on program to get the F-22 for the USMC and the F-22M for the USN.


    So, now the spectre for the projection of US air and sea power is the PAK-FA flying sweep to knock down any pesky Hornets and lumbering F-35s, followed by Su-35S with either a centreline KH-41 Sunburn or a brace of Novator 3M-54AE Sizzlers, with a predictable result.


    As predicted by APA, the military world as we know it has passed though a gate, and will never be the same.

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    Opinion: Russia’s new T50 fighter a match for Raptor, Lightning 2?

    By Paul Wallis.

    12 hours ago by ■ Paul Wallis

    Russia isn’t exactly being coy about its first new fighter since the collapse of the Soviet Union. The plane is an announcement of Russia’s return to the forefront of arms manufacturing, and is being treated accordingly.

    It’s not a bad looking plane, either, but this design is somewhat unexpected. The T50 is made by Sukhoi, makers of the highly respected Flanker. Sukhoi make tough airframes, and have a tendency to stick them on high performance aircraft. Flanker can turn literally on its wing root, not easy for a jet, nor recommended for peace of mind of other pilots within 20km. So T50, which is nearly a wide delta design with some angle cutaway, is a bit out of the ordinary, because it's so un-stylized. The wing profile is one of the most fundamental jet fighter designs. This thing is built like a platform, lots of wing area, and a no-nonsense angled tail assembly which is obviously strictly engineer-inspired.

    T50 isn’t a fashion statement in design terms. T50 has a large number of hardpoints, so the concept imperatives are clear. It looks very much like “Make us a reliable plane” was the basic instruction. According to the hype, T50 is intended to carry a lot of hardware and avionics, and it makes sense that the design is tough rather than flashy. Given that the plane is also intended to be a multi role fighter, having somewhere to hang things is a major design consideration.

    The Russians are making a point of comparing T50 to America’s F22 Raptor, the “nobody else is allowed to buy it” fighter which Congress in its wisdom recently shut down. T50 is touted as a lightweight, long range, supersonic fighter (Mach 2) which pretty much sums up Russia’s basic tactical and logistic needs for a modern fighter. The comparison to Raptor, however, means comparison to a plane which is intended to provide air superiority in a very unambiguous way.

    The T50 is also said to be able to use short 1000 foot runways, an obvious indicator of deployment capabilities in combat. The plane is built of composite materials, and the Stealth aspect is based on creating a low acquisition profile, an alternative to the F117’s dramatic angles and lines.

    The economics of this in manufacturing and assembly are interesting, because it means the demand for specialist assembly capabilities is obviated. India, which is a partner in the T50’s development, is expected to provide manufacturing for its two seat version of the plane.

    The Indians are hoping to acquire 250 of these aircraft, and Indian Air Force commentators have been reasonably enthusiastic. The Indian T50 is expected to be operational in 2017. The big fuss, however, is about the “fifth generation” fighter capabilities. T50 is also being referred to as being a fifth generation fighter in the same sense as America’s laboriously developing and expensive Lightning II, aka Joint Strike Fighter, (JSF). It’s not yet proven, in any sense, that T50 is an actual equivalent of JSF, but the Russians are making a point of emphasizing the generational element.

    Realistically, a basic model like T50 could survive a lot of upgrades without any particular need for redesign, so if it's not an equivalent now, it could become one, and carry whatever it needs to match combat systems.

    The current stage of development is more likely to be good marketing than actual technology because the high loaded technically ultra-everything JSF is taking its own sweet time getting operational. If T50 is seen as the generic equivalent, or cheaper option, Russia can pick up quite a lot of business with this approach. They might be able to deliver operational planes while JSF is still teething.

    T50 isn’t a design freak show, which should be a lesson to aircraft designers around the world. “It works, it flies, it does the job” is the obvious message, and it sends the message very effectively. Don’t be surprised if this unpretentious little plane becomes the aerial equivalent of an AK47.

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