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    America in Ashes?--On the trail of al-Qaeda's nuclear jihad.
    FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 23, 2008 | Christopher S. Carson

    The latest audio message from al-Qaeda, reportedly from Osama bin Laden himself, is only the most recent confirmation that the jihadist threat to the West remains real and deadly serious. But the fact that it could take the form of nuclear terrorism should be most worrying to citizens and policy makers alike.

    Where a nuclear attack once may have been beyond the capacities of stateless terrorists, that is no longer the case. One need only consider Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM), mastermind of 9/11 and chief operating officer of al-Qaeda, who revealed under intensive interrogation -- including the much-maligned tactic of waterboarding -- that a nuclear attack against the United States was a top priority for al-Qaeda.

    According to the New York Daily News and its sources, the captive KSM told his interrogators that Osama bin Laden was planning a “nuclear hell storm” in America. Normally such a lurid claim would be disbelieved by our “inside-the-box” intelligence officers, but KSM’s recovered laptop had corroborating details.

    The agents learned that the chain of command for this new operation went simply: bin Laden, his terrorist doctor Ayman al-Zawahiri, a mysterious scientist named “Dr. X,” and an operational coordinator. The scientist turned out to be Dr. A.Q. Khan, the founder of Pakistan’s atomic bomb, national hero, and nuke material proliferator extraordinaire. The operations ringleader was known as “Jafer the Pilot” (Jaffer al-Tayyar). This ID was corroborated by former al-Qaeda No. 3 Abu Zubaydah when he himself was waterboarded.

    Dr. Khan’s input was important: One month before 9/11, according to The Washington Post, bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, met around a blazing campfire with Pakistani scientists from an A.Q. Khan-affiliated group called Umma Tameer-E-Nau, to discuss how al-Qaeda could build a nuclear device themselves and ship it to a target.

    The night meeting went well. 'Jafer the Pilot" is the nom de guerre of U.S. citizen Adnan el-Shukrijumah. Young, intelligent, fluent in multiple languages and a trained jet pilot who had apparently been in flight schools with Mohammed Atta, Shukrijumah had studied and worked with other jihadis at the 5-megawatt nuclear reactor at McMaster University in Canada. But one day all the terrorists disappeared from campus forever.

    John Loftus of WABC news reported on November 7, 2003, that in the immediate wake of Shukrijumah and his fellow travelers’ disappearance, 180 pounds of uranium ended up “missing” from the reactor. Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir, who interviewed Osama bin Laden in the wake of 9/11, reported bin Laden saying that one of the founders of al-Qaeda, Anas el-Liby, had helped the Pilot haul out the stash of uranium.

    McMaster U. has always insisted that no material was ever missing from the reactor, but instead claims that low-grade radiological material did turn up missing from their pharmacological/medical labs at the time. Paul Williams, author of The Day of Islam, published the Loftus-Mir assertions in his book and elsewhere. For his trouble, he was promptly sued by the University for $4,000,000. The suit is still pending.

    But the Pilot and his atomically-inclined friends had not gone to live in a cave somewhere in Waziristan like their bosses had. Shukrijumah had much work to do for his “American Hiroshima” plan, which would detonate actual nuclear bombs in seven American cities at once. Paul Williams surmises that Osama bin Laden’s increasingly messianic pronouncements over the airwaves are psychologically tied up with his expectations of the nuclear destruction of the Great Satan—with bin Laden himself as the prophesied Mahdi, the fiery culmination of 1,600 years of Islamic history.

    Whatever pangs of conscience remaining to the plotters as they contemplated burning millions of women and children alive was thoroughly assuaged by bin Laden’s diplomacy. The supremo had duly arranged for a compliant mullah to issue a fatwa, which expressly authorized the destruction of the United States of American in clouds of atomic ash. Entitled “A Treatise on the Legal Status of Using Weapons of Mass Destruction Against Infidels,” and dated May 2003, this fatwa can be read online by all the faithful. FBI chief Robert Mueller has also said that there is a “clear intent” by al-Qaeda to acquire and use nuclear weapons against the United States. As far back as 1993, said Mueller, Osama bin Laden had attempted to buy uranium from a source in the Sudan. Why should we expect him to stop in the last 15 years?

    One thing is certain: homicidal doctor Ayman al-Zawahiri's made a decision when KSM was captured: Cancel that planned mass cyanide gas attack in the New York subway system. He told the operational plotters to stand down because "we have something better in mind,” which would presumably suck up all the resources then available to him. What would be “better” than a mass cyanide attack in a confined urban rush-hour space? There is only one thing more murderous.

    Unfortunately, even in 2004, the American intelligence services tasked with protecting the country seemed about as prepared for the Pilot as they were for the Hamburg Cell of 9/11. One full year after KSM spilled his guts in a secret CIA prison in Eastern Europe, Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director John Mueller issued a joint press conference that everyone should be on the lookout for five exceedingly dangerous terrorists. Adnan al-Shukrijumah, the Pilot, was first on the list. Director Mueller called him the “Next Mohammed Atta.” The American Hiroshima plan was not specifically mentioned, presumably to prevent panic in the country.(But it was mentioned, by Sean Osborne and others)

    It turns out that the Pilot himself need not have been panicked. Several days after the press conference naming Shukrijumah, a certain Samuel Mac, the manager of a Denny’s restaurant in Avon, Colorado, became uneasy as he served two “demanding, rude and obnoxious” patrons at his restaurant. One of them looked, for all the world, like the guy he remembered was in the Ashcroft-Mueller press conference’s first poster: Adnan the Pilot. The other one, wolfing down a health-conscious chicken sandwich and a salad, looked like the guy the FBI said was Abderraouf Jdey, the head of al-Qaeda’s cell in Toronto. They said they were traveling cross-country.

    From behind his counter, Mr. Mac looked at these patrons again. He figured at least Washington, D.C., would have an FBI office, so he called there. The agent who answered the phone was uninterested and referred him to the Denver office. Calling this number, Mr. Mac was left with an endless loop of voice mail. The purported al-Qaeda officials eventually strolled out of the restaurant and took off. Five hours later an agent from the Denver field office called back, took a few perfunctory notes, and said he’d pass the info along. Mr. Mac thoughtfully preserved the plates and utensils the men had eaten with, but no one ever bothered to come over and collect them for DNA evidence, or interviewed any of the restaurant’s employees. So much for the national “Be on the Lookout” alert.

    The Pilot quickly resurfaced in Waziristan province, Pakistan, home of Osama and Dr. Zawahiri. In April 2004, according to Paul Williams’ sources in the FBI, where Williams had worked as a consultant, this turned out to be a “pivotal planning session” for the American Hiroshima plot, much as Kuala Lumpur in 2000 was the final planning session for the 9/11 plot. Mohammed Babar, an indicted terrorist, was also present. (Babar’s Islamic Thinkers Society had held placards while demonstrating outside the Israeli consulate in 2006, helpfully saying, “The Mushroom Cloud is On Its Way.”)

    Thus funded and instructed, the Pilot flew to Honduras the next month, where he met with jefes of the violent street gang MS-13 (Mara Salvatruchas) and was noticed by the café owner, who had seen newspaper pictures of that Ashcroft-Mueller press conference. The Honduran security ministry confirmed Shukrijumah’s presence there, and also the Pilot’s multitude of calls then to France, the USA, and Canada.

    Why was the Pilot meeting with MS-13 gang leaders? The answer became painfully obvious that summer, when he was seen again in Mexico in late August 2004, near “terrorist alley” in Sonora, the main thoroughfare for illegal aliens into the United States. MS-13 was the Pilot’s new supply chain and courier of nuclear material for the bombs he was setting up.

    The Pilot was now moving around at will, with no hindrance, all through Latin America. U.S. intelligence got another too-late break in November, when Sharif al-Masri, an al-Qaeda official working directly with Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, was snatched and questioned by interrogators.

    Al-Masri told his American captors that his bosses had arranged for nuclear supplies for bombs to be shipped into Mexico and thus into the USA with the help of the MS-13 street gang. This created a new sense of urgency, because on November 1st, Mexican officials reported that a man looking very similar to Adnan al-Shukrijumah had just stolen and flown off with a Piper PA Pawnee crop duster near Mexicali, destination unknown.

    Since 2005, the Pilot has vanished from sight.

    While the mainstream media currently mostly ignore this story and the almost certain fact that a nuclear plot is ongoing today, Senator Joseph Lieberman has held at least three separate hearings in 2008 of his Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs on this very subject.

    The testimony from experts summoned to these hearings has been grim. Nobody doubts that once terrorists acquire fissile material, which is either Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) or plutonium, a bomb is within their theoretical capacity and will to make and use. A simple gun-type device, like that used for the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima, is sufficient to yield a one to ten kiloton explosion.

    Al-Qaeda has been increasing its recruitment for nuclear-skilled workers. Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri issued a public call in September 2006 for “people of distinguished skills and high levels of expertise…particularly…nuclear scientists and explosives engineers” to work with al-Qaeda-in-Iraq. The mainstream media and the Democratic officeholders ignored this proclamation, because the counterinsurgency effort in Iraq is supposed to be a “distraction” from the “real” war on terror, which to them presumably would not include a mushroom cloud over Chicago.

    The only good news is that terrorists cannot make HEU or plutonium; they have to get it from somewhere else. HEU is not found in nature and has to be juiced up from normal uranium. For that reason, HEU is highly prized on the world’s black markets. How will Adnan Shukrijumah get hold of this HEU (or even plutonium) to assemble into working bombs?

    He has a range of options. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has documented 15 incidents of theft and smuggling of small amounts of separated plutonium or highly enriched uranium confirmed by the nations involved. But these 15 cases represent the tip of the iceberg of what has actually occurred. So there is always just approaching the right people and buying it—not an easy task, but not an impossible one either.

    Nuclear terror expert Matthew Bunn testified last month that “Nuclear weapons or their essential ingredients exist in hundreds of buildings in dozens of countries, with security measures that range from excellent to appalling – in some cases, no more than a night watchman and a chain-link fence.”

    In recent months, shadowy surveillance teams have been reported scoping out secret nuclear weapons facilities in Russia. They probably don’t have to be: In February 2006, Russian citizen Oleg Khinsagov was arrested in Georgia (along with three Georgian accomplices) with some 100 grams of 89 percent enriched HEU, claiming that he had kilograms more available for sale. We can’t know how many thefts that occurred were never detected. Dr. Bunn told Senator Lieberman that “it is a sobering fact that nearly all of the stolen HEU and plutonium that has been seized over the years had never been missed before it was seized.”

    The Pilot doesn’t need too much HEU for his seven-city destruction plan. For one “simple” gun-type design HEU bomb, roughly 50 kilograms of HEU would be needed – roughly the size of a six-pack.

    The Pilot could also try hitting up a HEU-based research facility, like his old alma mater McMaster University, although McMaster apparently didn’t employ HEU per se. But some 130 research reactors around the world still do use HEU as their fuel.

    Or has he already? The Washington Post, right before last Christmas, reported a strange story. Sometime in the night of November 8, 2007, two coordinated teams of armed men attacked the Pelindaba nuclear facility in South Africa, where hundreds of kilograms of weapon-grade highly enriched uranium (HEU) are stored.

    One of the teams was chased off by the guards, but the other team of four gunmen disabled the perimeter alarms, went to the emergency control center and shot a worker in the chest. Bleeding out, the worker was still able to sound the first alarm.

    He might not have bothered. The attack team then spent 45 minutes inside the perimeter, without anyone harassing them. What they did next is unknown to the public. The team promptly disappeared through the same hole they had cut in the fence. South African officials later arrested three individuals, but soon released them. The South African government has since been close-lipped about what really happened last November, and it has refused earlier U.S. offers to remove the HEU at Pelindaba—if indeed any remains after the attack. We don’t even know how much HEU, if any, was spirited away.

    But surely the point is not whether the Pilot hit this specific facility. It is that he could well have—or dozens of others like it. We do know that if a 10 kiloton A-bomb, somewhat smaller than the bomb that obliterated Hiroshima, is set off at ground level in midtown Manhattan, the death toll would be perhaps half a million people. We could expect roughly $1 trillion in direct economic damage from this one bomb alone. Multiply this by seven bombs, and we can expect the wholesale depopulation of America’s cities in fear, incalculable economic devastation, and the end of the country as we currently know it.

    Chicago naturally is on the list of targets. According to nuke expert Dr. Graham Allison, the HEU needed to nuke the city is smaller than a football. He writes, “If a bomb were put in the back of a tanker truck, driven downtown, and detonated at the Sears Tower, everything within a third of a mile would vanish. The United Center and all of Grant Park would look like the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The resulting firestorm and cloud of fallout would reach nearly to U.S. Cellular Field and Wrigley Field.”

    The experts are not talking about vague probabilities far into the future. Former Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Graham Allison are among those who have estimated that chance at more than 50 percent over the next decade. That is, two respected experts in the field believe that the nuclear destruction of one or more American urban centers is more probable than not in the very near future.

    Al-Qaeda keeps increasing the number of Americans it publicly dreams of killing in its nuclear hellstorm. In 2002, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, Osama bin Laden’s former official press spokesman, claimed the right for jihadis “to kill four million Americans.” Just one year later, in his fatwa declaring the use of WMD obligatory, Nasir al-Fahd put the number of Americans that it is permissible to kill without further ado at 10 million souls, roughly 3 million of them children.

    Because a nuclear attack would achieve the greatest possible destruction on American soil, there is every reason to think that the terrorists are plotting its execution. The question confronting American policy makers is: Are we prepared to stop this threat before it becomes a terrible reality?
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    The red highlights are mine. Green is my statements.

    Read the above, and hope people have their heads out of the asses before this happens.

    This is precisely what I have been preaching about for years.

    Original link:http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...9-F468FD04ECD5
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    Rick,

    This is my biggest fear. left alone, to continue to make preparations, they will be successful. they will achieve nuclear capability and they will make plans for and carry out a nuclear attack. they have all the time in the world to do this, too. think about it. they have a completely safe and totally secure safe haven in pakistan from which to operate. they have access to russian and pakistani scientists who are willing and able, and ARE cooperating in the effort. i beleive that AQ Khan at some point furnished al qaeda with HEU or is enriching the Uranium that Al-Shukrijumah stole from McMaster University and at some point in the future when it is ready, it will be returned to al qaeda. It may also be machined and shaped for them by the pakistani nuclear weapons establishment too.

    the theft in south africa was frightening as well. that has all the hallmarks of al qaeda.

    The lack of any real interest on the part of the FBI to do ANYTHING to even BEGIN to track Al-Shukrijumah down, and kill or capture him is terrifying and at the same time completely predictable. the FBI is no longer a real world entity who does anything of real importance. it has become impotent and nearly useless due to its complete and overwhelming focus on what is politically correct.

    its just a matter of time before al qaeda successfully executes a nuclear attack on the United States of America, and the FBI is completely in capable and unwilling to prevent it.


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    Scary stuff. Anyone have suggestions for how to broach this subject with your significant other without sounding like I've lost my marbles? I don't want to necessarily scare her either, but I want to be allowed to take some precautions without any panicking.

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    And what do you think Obama will do about it?
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    I don't think there is really any easy way. I think all you can do is show facts, facts, and more facts. But the real goal is to make those facts appealing and easy to relate to, not hard to understand and dry.

    This is what I try to do when explaining the dangers we face from the TAA to people who are unfamiliar.

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    MagnetMan,

    I am in the same boat with my missus. She isnt in the enemy camp and doesnt buy any of their crap. she just didnt realize any of the dangers out there, was oblivious to it and naive to it.

    She had an assignment i helped her with for school about dissecting an episode of the nightly news looking for bias both in programming and commercials. it was an hour of her life that really opened her eyes.

    Showing her this stuff about national security and the ongoing threats we face has been a serious challenge for her to understand but she gets it. she isnt nuanced the way a lot of people are, or especially those of us who are analysts.

    the trick is to put it in terms of how this would affect her personally, her job, home, family bank acount, survival. you have to give it to em plane and simple even if it does scare the hell outta them. they need to know.

    thats the decision i made.

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    MagnetMan,

    Oftentimes, women are more emotionally driven than men - scaring her may be the best way to motivate her. Of course, only you know the best way to approach this.

    Unfortunately for some SO's, it'll take an major event to change their thoughts. It did mine.

    1984 or so, Miami, a parking lot, and a pissed of guy with a gun driving a POS beater that thought he deserved the parking space more than me.

    Handed the wife our daughter and told her, "Run that way!"

    I stayed behind and covered their retreat.

    No rounds were fired.

    Note: Dumbasses run like little school girls when outflanked.

    Next opportunity, the wife wanted to shoot the biggest pistol I had - it was a .44 mag. One shot convinced her to try something else - but I gotta give her credit for trying.

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    when i went back to college, i sold my firearms to help afford tuition. last day of classes for me was last week. ive already landed my dream job, and have been there for two months. i bought something today.

    now that i have the job i want and can afford things again, i went out and started buying things back. i got the mp5 i previously owned back, and its a cherry. i also bought a really nice pistol today at gander mountain. the missus finally was ok with my doing it, and i have the cash and its been a while, and with the times i see approaching, i think its necessary to bear arms and take advantage of the right to own. i bought a real nice springfield XD today. i am fortunate in that A) got it on sale, B) got the one i wanted and it exactly meets my needs C) they all come with a lifetime warranty, and D) the plant that assembles em is about 40 minutes from where i live, so if i need work done, it will be true factory service.

    im a happy guy! but i think the idea of being able to protect yourself and your loved ones, and i already have talked the misses into learning to shoot. i am kind of excited. i got the mp5 back about a week ago. that was expensive but i think if i ever need i wont be counting the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversman View Post
    i got the mp5 i previously owned back, and its a cherry.
    Woah... Woah... Woah... Slow down here.

    Are you referring to a real transferable, select fire MP5?

    In any event...
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    Scary stuff. Anyone have suggestions for how to broach this subject with your significant other without sounding like I've lost my marbles? I don't want to necessarily scare her either, but I want to be allowed to take some precautions without any panicking.
    1) Put her here and let her READ the article, then go and find similar articles on the subject.

    2) Give your family a "background" on this subject. That is, do a little research on the Cold War and what we did as kids in the late 50s and early 60s (preparing for attacks).

    3) Show her pictures of each of the various attacks on the USS Cole, the WTC, Khobar towers, and the other terrorist attacks, showing their escalation and destruction as it has increased from the smaller, individual attacks to the WTC. The next one will take out more than one city at one time.

    4) Set the family down and make a PLAN. Yes, actually INCLUDE the family in the planning session.

    A) Discuss the types of things that can occur in your area (natural disasters), hurricane, tornadoes, flooding, blizzards, mud slides - whatever they are, and then discuss each of those things and what to do in case of natural disaster.

    B) Discuss locations to meet, at least two in case one is in danger.

    C) Set up a phone-recall tree (we called them recall rosters in the military) and make sure everyone has a copy and keeps them safe and secure.

    D) Locate a direct relative or close family friend in the area and include them in your plans as part of the "recall" so that there is a second and perhaps ever third point of contact.

    E) Explain terrorism (as above) and then explain the types of acts that could occur in your area, and do not think that because you live in a small town you can't or won't be a target (Obviously if there isn't really anything to damage or destroy in your area your chances of getting hit go down, but certainly a direct nuclear strike will happen in a large city, not small towns).

    F) Specific to nuclear attack... there are some IMMEDIATE things that need to happen the second you detect a detonation. You need to TRAIN your family in these things to the best of your ability, even if it is to "give a class" to your family on what to do, and then once a year have an "update discussion about family safety/security" and go over those things once more. (I can and will cover that in more detail later)
    Basically, the approach to convince your family should be non-threatening, but in my case it took 9-11 to actually Wake Them Up. Prior to that I had tried and tried to explain to my wife and children about securing doors, checking the house at night, locking car doors, knowing your surroundings and have situational awareness.

    It took 9-11 for them to all come into understanding. The minute it happened and they were all seeing for themselves on television, they converged on my home (Those that had already moved out) and understanding of what Dad had been preaching for YEARS suddenly caused them all to look at the world in a wholly different way than they had been.

    For those who saw 9-11 happen, that "awakening" should have occurred already and for those that it has not, it probably never will until it happens again, and close to home personally affecting them.
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    I'd also like to repost an article from CNN from November 2001, barely two months after the 9-11-01 attacks. You will see that this idea is NOT something NEW or unusual, but rather has been thought about over and over by various news agencies. The time is RIPE for something like this to happen... we're nearly 7 years past 9-11-01
    and if anyone thinks the terrorists have stopped trying to get nuclear material for a BIG BOMB, they are sorely mistaken.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/08...ack/index.html

    Nuclear attack: Now anything seems possible

    November 9, 2001 Posted: 4:50 AM EST (0950 GMT)







    By Jamie Allen

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    (CNN) -- Not since the height of the Cold War have Americans seriously considered they could come under nuclear attack.

    But when President Bush said Tuesday that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist network is likely seeking weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear bombs, the possibility that the unthinkable could happen suddenly seemed less remote.
    How plausible is that threat? Right now, that's all it appears to be -- a threat. Terrorists might want nuclear weapons, but no credible evidence has emerged to suggest that any terrorist group possesses such weapons, according to the latest intelligence made public.


    Still, post-September 11, the potential can't be dismissed. At an October 30 press conference in Vienna, Austria, Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, identified a shifting of strategy in the "fight against terrorism."


    "The willingness of terrorists to sacrifice their lives to achieve their evil aims creates a new dimension in the fight against terrorism," ElBaradei said.


    "We are not just dealing with the possibility of governments diverting nuclear materials into clandestine weapons programs," he said. "Now we have been alerted to the potential of terrorists targeting nuclear facilities or using radioactive sources to incite panic, contaminate property, and even cause injury or death among civilian populations."

    Nuclear attack scenarios

    Imagined scenarios of nuclear attacks by terrorists generally fall into two categories. One: Terrorists unleash a nuclear or "dirty bomb," a conventional bomb loaded with radioactive junk. Two: They ram the United States' own nuclear facilities with a hijacked jetliner or truck bomb, causing toxic chemicals to disperse into the air.

    One source of fears is the former Soviet Union. When it collapsed, some of its nuclear weapons -- including those that apparently could be carried in a suitcase or briefcase -- went unaccounted for in subsequent inventories, according to Bruce Blair, president of the Center for Defense Information, an independent military research organization.

    Gen. Alexander Lebed, the Russian national security chief under President Boris Yeltsin, completed an inventory that "came up short by something between 50 and 100 suitcases," Blair said. "No one has really, persuasively explained the discrepancy between Lebed's count and what the Russian government said, which was, 'Don't worry, nothing's missing.'"

    John Lepingwell, a nuclear expert with the Monterey Institute of International Studies, doesn't give any credence to a suitcase-bomb threat.

    "There is no good evidence that any rebel group or terrorist has these," he told Time magazine.

    Lepingwell also dismissed the possibility of terrorists building or getting their hands on a nuclear bomb and setting it off in the United States. "This threat is quite unlikely," he said.

    Terrorists, he said, would have to surmount serious obstacles to carry off a nuclear- related attack. Among them:

    -- Obtaining plutonium or highly-enriched uranium, the fissionable material of nuclear bombs. They'd have to buy it, steal it or produce it, and each case poses its own difficulties.

    -- Building a bomb. "While creating a design may be possible, turning a design into a functioning weapon is not easy and would require time and substantial effort," Lepingwell said.

    -- Delivering the bomb. "They would have to get it to the U.S. from wherever they built it," Lepingwell said. "Sending it airfreight or by sea would take time, and would require a string of contacts and checks that might be detected by intelligence agencies."

    And the dirty bombs? The Center for Defense Information's Blair seems to think it's possible. He recalled how, in 1995, Chechen separatists put a canister in a Moscow park containing a highly radioactive byproduct of nuclear fission. It was a stunt, performed apparently to show how vulnerable Moscow was, Blair said. The United States, said Blair, is just as vulnerable.

    "So with a dirty bomb, which could be a relatively small canister of nuclear waste that's exploded with dynamite in a city, the major problem probably would be the widespread evacuation and panic that would ensue," he said.
    Nuclear powers

    Another source of concern: so-called rogue nations could supply terrorists with nuclear weapons.

    Former United Nations chief weapons inspector Richard Butler and his team went into Iraq to shut down Saddam Hussein's efforts to build a nuclear bomb at the dawn of the Persian Gulf war. Just in time, he said.

    "I know with utter certainty that Iraq was months away from having nuclear weapons when we stopped them in 1990-'91," Butler said. "One of the key defectors from Iraq to the West, a man who was in charge of elements of Saddam Hussein's bomb program, actually said that he's already made one -- that Saddam has already put together a crude nuclear weapon."

    But even if Hussein has a crude bomb, that doesn't guarantee he'd be willing to hand it over to terrorists; or, as Lepingwell noted, that terrorists would be able to transport it undetected to their desired location.

    Another country watched closely by U.S. officials is the nuclear power Pakistan, according to Joseph Cirincione, nonproliferation project director for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a nonprofit organization that promotes U.S. interests in international relations.

    Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf has let U.S.-led forces use bases in Pakistan in support of the war on terrorists in Afghanistan. Cirincione fears backlash in Pakistan against the Musharraf government and the United States could lead to a coup by Muslim extremists sympathetic with the Taliban; if they succeeded in overthrowing Musharraf's government, that would put nuclear weapons in their hands.

    Shirin Tahir-Kheli, delegate to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, however, said that's not happening any time soon.

    "If the state begins to unravel, it'll have to unravel very fundamentally before that becomes a reality," she said. "And I don't see that sort of nightmare scenario."
    Attacking nuclear facilities

    If nuclear weapons cannot be built or found, U.S. homeland security officials acknowledge terrorists could possibly attack U.S. nuclear plants using a hijacked plane or a large truck bomb.

    "This is far more likely, although the consequences are likely to be far lower," said Lepingwell, who said that an attack on a nuclear facility does not guarantee a meltdown -- the perceived goal of such an effort. "The terror dimension may turn out to be greater than the actual destruction in such a case."

    Victor Dricks, spokesman for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said steps have been taken since September 11 to increase security around nuclear facilities.

    The facilities are on "highest alert," he said.

    "In addition, we've issued more than half a dozen advisories in the last six weeks suggesting additional steps they could take to further increase security," Dricks said. "We also have sent letters to the governors of 40 states urging them to establish channels of communication with National Guard units in the event they feel the need to call upon them for assistance.

    "And our emergency operation center has been manned around-the-clock for the past six weeks by people who remain in constant communication with law enforcement agencies, the intelligence community, state and local governments and the military," he said.

    Not enough, said Paul Leventhal, a critic of nuclear proliferation who worked on Senate legislation to establish the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission in 1974 and now serves as president of the Nuclear Control Institute.

    He believes more needs to be done to protect nuclear facilities, including National Guard troops guarding every plant. Leventhal also recommends installing "anti-aircraft weapons like surface-to-air missile batteries" that could intercept a hijacked plane about to crash into a plant.

    September 11 was "a wakeup call and let's just hope it's not too late," Leventhal said. "It's been very frustrating getting politicians and the public to pay attention to the dangers of nuclear proliferation."

    Ultimately, the attacks of September 11 that shook the United States awoke Americans to grave possibilities.

    Sam Nunn, chairman of the Nuclear Threat Initiative, said no matter how minuscule the chance of nuclear attack, there's work to be done.

    "I don't think it is likely to happen, but if the odds against that were 1,000-to-one, we want to make them 10,000-to-one," he told CNN. "If they are 10,000-to-one against it happening we want to make it a million-to-one."

    CNN National Security Correspondent David Ensor contributed to this report.
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    Default Re: America in Ashes?--On the trail of al-Qaeda's nuclear jihad.

    Oh yeah.....

    http://www.transasianaxis.com/vb/showthread.php?t=474

    That links is "Global Thermonuclear War" and it DOES have some information there as well. I'd suggest reading that one as well.
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    Ryan,

    I will have a little bit of free time this weekend, and i will take some pics with the digital camera, and post a couple on here.

    i tell you what, the mp5 is FUN!!! it sure does suck buying ammo for it though. cant hardly have much fun unless you buy a case. if you dont, its an awful short trip to the range. the rock and roll is fun but not that great. after a while its just throwing money away and the fun of it wears off.

    Its a pleasure to shoot though, and in semi or on auto but just burst firing it, its surprisingly easy to hit with. i have it tricked out a little bit too. i dumped the HK original slither stock in favor of an HK pdw style side folder stock. way more sturdy. i also got rid of the original barrel and bought one thats threaded and has the three lugs for attachment of a noise suppressor but i do not have one of those. i removed but kept the original forestock, and it has been replaced with a genuine surefire tactical foregrip. i also put the US Navy PDW flash hider on the front end of it too. so its pretty close to mil spec. a few minor differences. mine doesnt have the burst setting either. its safe, semi or full. i also put a nice, a really GOOD three point sling on it. it is a fun fun fun firearm to own, and since its 9mm, it eats the same rounds my pistol does, simplifying my life immeasurably. the only downside is i only have three magazines for it.

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