FOX BUSINESS CHANNEL, AMERICA'S NIGHTLY SCOREBOARD, April 27, 2011
DAVID ASMAN, FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR: ... On May 2, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ... will hear the case of Wiley Drake versus Barack Obama, which questions the eligibility of Obama to be president. Now, one of the parties in that lawsuit joins us now. Markham Robinson is vice chairman of the American Independent Party.
And we are pleased to have you here. Mr. Robinson, thanks for coming in. So, let us start with this certificate of live birth. I'm holding the facsimile in my hand of it all. Do you believe that this is the real thing?
MARKHAM ROBINSON, AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY: It needs to be authenticated as ... a true copy. We want either Mr. Obama's agreement or a court order to have our document expert to examine the actual original in a repository of birth certificate records in Hawaii.
ASMAN: Well now, there are already questions, I'm sure you know about this, you've been watching the Web as closely as anybody, about certain numbers that appear very faintly in here, certain things seems to have been crossed out, the signature of the local registrar, it looks like, ukulele, I mean, there are some interesting things here, but are you basically satisfied that this is what you have been -- this is the document that you have been demanding for these many, many months, if not years?
ROBINSON: This is a document that has the amount, the type of information that we've been demanding. It's been noted that there's no seal on it, but perhaps that's easily explained. It needs certification, but there are still other issues concerning Mr. Obama's eligibility that are yet to be resolved.
ASMAN: Well, let's run through a couple of them, because there's something that is rarely talked about, this flap over his social security number and whether it is the real thing or not. Are you still curious about that?
ROBINSON: We are curious about that, after all if you -- since -- if this birth certificate he gave is -- actually establishes his birth in Hawaii, then his birth certificate -- his social security number should have been issued in Hawaii. We want to know whether it was or not.
ASMAN: And there was some questions about whether it was the right number, right?
ROBINSON: I'm not sure about that.
ASMAN: OK. All right, so that's OK. By the way, what do you think has happened to this birth certificate? We talked to Alan Colmes last night, he said it's impossible for the president or anybody to get their hands on it. Obviously, that turned out not to be true, but where has it been for the past 2-1/2 years? We have the governor say he was going to produce it and then he said no he couldn't find it. Do you have any clue as to where it might have been?
ROBINSON: I don't know where that darned elusive birth certificate was.
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I think that also Tim Adams, a senior retired election clerk said that he looked and he couldn't find it, either. So, we don't want to take the word that -- of the Hawaiian bureaucracy that this is, in fact, a true copy. We want our documents expert to examine the actual original to be sure of that.
ASMAN: Well, if -- if you, and you are going to have a hearing on May 2 with the 9th Circuit, it's a very important court in the United States, Circuit Court of Appeals -- are you going to demand access through that court, through a court order, to this birth certificate?
ROBINSON: The May 2 hearing is not on that issue. It's not going to actually go into trying the case. It is whether the case may be tried. If we prevail, the case will be sent back to the Judge Carter's court to actually proceed so that we can do discovery on all sorts of documents, passport records and other things relevant to Mr. Obama's qualification to be president.
ASMAN: Now, Barack Obama undoubtedly will tell the 9th Circuit, hey look, I satisfied part of the claimants interest here, insofar as I produce the certificate of live birth, therefore perhaps the hearing should be canceled. Have you heard any news as to whether it's still on as scheduled on May 6 or whether it's been cancelled?
ROBINSON: On May 2, that is not the issue and since he has highly competent attorneys, I'm sure that won't come up. That question is, in fact, whether or not courts can decide this issue. All other parties who swore their Constitutional oath to uphold all of the Constitution including the requirements for presidential eligibility having failed to do that.
ASMAN: Now finally, the president said, today, he was sort of describing this whole flap. He called it "silliness." How do you respond to the president describing this process we've been through over a couple of hears, "silliness?"
ROBINSON: Well, what's silly is spending $2 to try to resist producing a document which presumably was available.
ASMAN: Well let me stop you there, Mr. Robinson, because the counterclaim for that, you claim he spent $2 million on legal fees. The president came back and said that that is silly because in fact he spent $2 million on legal fees, only part of which dealt with this issue.
ROBINSON: Well, there are several issues, indeed, but we were facing a lot of lawyers, quite a number of time and there have been quite a number of suits. I expect they are not cheap.
ASMAN: All right, we got to leave it at that. Markham Robinson, I'm sure we'll hear more from you. Thank you very much for being here, appreciate it.
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