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    You're trying to post images from your hard drive Aplomb. Just click on the link up in the message board navbar that says "User Photo Album". There you can upload those photos and then post them with BBCode.

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    Silly me. Let's try this and listen to #78: http://aunetwork.tv
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    The day after the new president’s election, al Qaeda issued a little-noticed statement declaring Barack Obama a murtad, i.e. an apostate whose betrayal of Islam is judged the most heinous. Believers have the duty to execute a murtad unlike other non-believers whose death sentence is optional.


    This is troublesome- it gives bama a 2 edged sword.

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    Here's the ad for the New York Times that I was trying to post. Well, the link anyway: http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=933
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    Al Qaeda says order given for US attack “far bigger than 9/11”

    DEBKAfile - Here's the full article which will give bama cover for "SUPER SECURITY".
    I pray and hope he will not be assasinated. However, it is very probable that his revamping of the patriot act, control of media and National Security Force will silence, harass, investigate critics. He has a double edged sword- to protect from and inflict- NOSPEAK, islamic dominance and communist tyranny.

    Updates DEBKA-Net-Weekly Exclusive
    November 16, 2008, 4:43 PM (GMT+02:00)
    Osama bin Laden plans to test Barack Obama like two former US presidents

    DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report that US president-elect Barack Obama, European and Russian heads of state in Washington for the G20 conference over the weekend were briefed about a probable early al Qaeda attack.
    Obama and his team have been advised that a new al Qaeda strike is highly probable in the United States or against a key US target in Europe, North Africa or the Middle East.
    DEBKA-Net-Weekly 372 of Nov. 14 disclosed that al Qaeda’s Yemen base, a reliable barometer for Osama bin Laden’s schemes, issued a Directive to All Fighters in Arabia on Nov. 9 presaging a major operation in the United States that will “change the political and economic world” and be “far bigger than 9/11.”
    To subscribe to DEBKA-Net-Weekly click HERE .
    The notice said “the operation is very near” and “precise instructions were in the hands of “the fighters, who are already on their way to America” armed with bin Laden’s orders. The pretext offered for the attack is the rejection by the US and Europe of al Qaeda’s four-year old truce offer whose original pre-condition was the withdrawal of their armies from Iraq and Afghanistan.
    The day after the new president’s election, al Qaeda issued a little-noticed statement declaring Barack Obama a murtad, i.e. an apostate whose betrayal of Islam is judged the most heinous. Believers have the duty to execute a murtad unlike other non-believers whose death sentence is optional.
    Thursday night, Nov. 14, Central Intelligence Director Gen. Michael Hayden said: “Al Qaeda, operating from its safe haven in Pakistan’s tribal areas, remains the most clear and present danger to the United States.” He was addressing a Washington think-tank.
    “Today, virtually every major terrorist threat that my agency is aware of has threads back to the tribal areas. Whether it is command and control, training, direction, money, capabilities, there is a connection to the FATA (Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas.)”
    Hayden also mentioned Yemen and Somalia as important al Qaeda theaters of operation.
    In private, most heads of the intelligence agencies fighting al Qaeda admit that an attack on the United States or major American interest outside is only a matter of time.

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    Oh for Pete's sake! Our legal writer is now saying yet another suit is going to be seen as lacking standing...

    http://www.americasright.com/

    In other types of cases, however, standing acts more like that jurisdictional requirement seen in federal cases, and in those cases, California appears to look at the traditional federal doctrine--injury-in-fact, causation and redressibility--to determine questions of whether or not someone has standing to sue.

    Keyes' chances, in my opinion, boil down to whether the element of redressibility is included in the test for standing for this particular cause of action. Because he did in fact appear on the California ballot along with Barack Obama, it seems likely that Keyes could very possibly show the injury-in-fact and causation that Robinson--and Philip Berg, and others--could not, especially considering the "sliding scale" approach to injury-in-fact employed by Berg in his petition for writ of certiorari, but the question remains as to whether redressibility is a factor. Alsup expressed, in the Robinson decision, doubts that striking McCain from the ballot could have significantly helped Keyes in California and beyond -- if redressibility is figured in as an essential element of standing here, the Ambassador might run into the same problem.

    Considering what I believe will be the eventual outcome of this matter, as well as the final dispositions of the other related matters filed from coast to coast, I cannot help but be disappointed that none of these cases have been heard on the merits. Of course, I understand completely the reasoning behind the standing doctrine, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

    Hoefling, it seems, feels that the court systems' inaction represents a dangerous trend in this country, as he told America's Right that "the courts have become an oligarchy" and that continuing down our current path could mean disaster for the United States of America as we know it.

    "I saw the Ohio case, in which the Republican Party was not recognized as having any standing to assure that voter fraud wasn't occurring, as one more bit of evidence that government of, by and for the people is being destroyed," he said, referring to last month's decision in Brunner v. Ohio Republican Party, in which the U.S. Supreme Court decided not to uphold an order directing Brunner, Secretary of State in Ohio, to check for voter fraud. "If the people themselves, their electors, their political parties, or their candidates for public office, don't have standing - don't have access to the courts to have their grievances redressed - the Constitution is now, in practice, a dead letter."

    Without getting too complicated, the Court's decision in Brunner is important with regard to the eventual disposition of Keyes' action, as it essentially held that there is no private, individual right to sue unless Congress deliberately and explicitly creates the right to do so -- language similar to that employed by the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick when he dismissed Philip Berg's case against Barack Obama from the district court in Philadelphia.

    Personally, I wonder how much of the reliance on procedure, how much of the unwillingness to expand the pie when it comes to the standing doctrine, comes from an inherent reticence regarding election-related questions. In his dissent in Bush v. Gore, Justice John Paul Stevens famously expressed his view that the Court was treading on dangerous ground:

    Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner in this year's presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the nation's confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law.
    Across the country after that decision, newspaper headlines confirmed Stevens' worry. The San Francisco Chronicle ran a piece entitled "Turbulent Election Taints Top Court's Reputation for Neutrality." The New York Daily News' lead headline read "High Court's Integrity at Risk." The Boston Globe chose "Supreme Court Compromises its Legitimacy." Confidence was indeed in low supply.

    Three years later, when the ACLU filed suit in California seeking suspension of the recall of former Gov. Gray Davis on grounds that an October 2003 vote--rather than a vote in March of 2004--would disenfranchise minority voters, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals echoed Stevens' sentiments when it held that the recall should proceed as planned.

    Interfering with impending elections is extraordinary, and interference with an election after voting has begun is unprecedented. Investments of time, money, and the exercise of citizenship rights cannot be returned.
    The judiciary was wary of the consequences of its decision in Bush v. Gore, and that uneasiness manifested itself in California a few years later. I believe that it is once again showing itself now. With regard to the questions regarding Obama and the second Article of our Constitution, it seems likely that the standing doctrine provides the courts with the perfect excuse to avoid forcing the return of those investments of time and money spoken of by the Ninth Circuit. The courts, it seems, want nothing of this pressing matter. If standing is to be granted to individual voters, they say, responsibility for doing so should fall onto the shoulders of Congress.

    Hoefling, however, feels that this is absolutely a matter for the courts to decide.

    "An impartial judiciary," he said, "sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, is ideally suited to settle election-related controversies -- particularly a case like this one in which it couldn't be clearer that this imperative sworn duty is central to everyone involved, including the judges who are deciding the case."
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    http://www.blogtext.org/naturalbornc...JUSTICE+THOMAS

    ***LEO DONOFRIO OFFICIALLY RENEWS EMERGENCY STAY APPLICATION CHALLENGING 2008 ELECTION - EMERGENCY STAY APPLICATION RENEWED TO JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS - SUBMITTED AT 7:46 AM, NOV. 17, 2008***
    [UPDATE: Upcoming Radio interviews with Leo Donofrio:
    Leo Donofrio will be interviewed on Plains Radio tonight at 9:00 PM EST.
    Leo Donofrio will be interviewed on the Alan Stang program, Nov. 18 at 8:00 AM EST.]



    On Friday Nov. 14, 2008, Leo C. Donofrio sent, by US Postal Express Mail, a letter, as required by Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Clerk of the United States Supreme Court - William K. Suter - requesting his Emergency Stay Application as to the national election by renewed to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by right of law, specifically Supreme Court Rule 22.4 .


    As of 1:17 PM the renewed application has not been updated to the US Supreme Court automated Docket.


    According to Supreme Court Rule 22.1, the Clerk is demanded to "transmit it promptly" to the Justice it is addressed to. Please recall that on Nov. 3rd, Leo Donofrio originally submitted this same emergency stay application to the US Supreme Court. Despite the stay clerk - Mr. Danny Bickell - having assured Leo Donofrio that the application would be given to the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter that night, it was not transmitted promptly. In fact, it was not transmitted at all after Mr. Bickell, having made an illegal and improper substantive judgment of law, thereby denied the application on his own volition.


    The emergency stay application was eventually submitted to the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter, four days late, on November 6, after Mr. Bickell was forced to concede that his denial had been improper.


    The emergency stay application, having been brought to the US Supreme Court from a denial of the New Jersey Supreme Court, was required by Supreme Court Rule 22.3 to be submitted to Justice Souter as he is the Justice assigned to the Third Circuit which includes New Jersey. The application was denied by Justice Souter on Nov. 6, and such denial therefore triggered Leo Donofrio's legal right, under Rule 22.4 to renew the emergency stay application to "any other Justice." Mr. Donofrio has chosen to renew the application to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas.



    Hopefully, this time, the emergency stay application will be promptly transmitted to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas.

    The renewed application was delivered to the US Supreme Court Clerk's office at exactly 7:46 AM by US Postal Express Mail. (Click link for US Postal proof of delivery.)
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    "transmit it promptly" - the main clerk can trash a stay or petition for cert on any technicality or any reason whatsoever, as long as it is not a frivolous reason.

    The justices very rarely wade through petitions for cert- they rely on their personal clerks to sift and channel.

    Supreme Court Rule 22.1,- lawyers lie and clerks are lawyers. Bama's a lawyer, no?

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    Leo C. Donofrio is in court this morning. The word I have is that there is a fax number to contact Justice Clarence Thomas who will be hearing the case (202-479-2971). There is no email that we can use to contact him, unfortunately. Please fax a short note to say that you are a concerned citizen who wants our U.S. Constitution to be upheld. If you don't know what more to say, at least say that along with mentioning the plantiff Donofrio so he knows which case you are writing about. Being firm is great, respectful is key. Thank you.
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    As of 2:15 PM, Nov. 18, the US Supreme Court docket has been updated and the renewed application for an emergency stay of the 2008 national election is apparently now before The Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas.

    I'm sure the people would want to know.

    Warm regards,

    Leo Donofrio

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    Here's something quite interesting...

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...sure_mcca.html

    Obama Backs Law Helping McCain



    U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) wrote her legislative fix on a yellow legal pad, which she delivered to the Senate clerk, to ensure that any person born to U.S. citizens serving in the armed services while stationed abroad would qualify to become president of the United States.

    By Shailagh Murray



    FORT WORTH -- Sen. Barack Obama's campaign announced he would co-sponsor legislation introduced yesterday by his political ally Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) to ensure that John McCain can become president, even though he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

    The issue of McCain's eligibility was raised in a New York Times article noting the constitutional requirement that a U.S. president be a "natural-born citizen" had never been fully defined.


    The McCaskill bill, submitted immediately after she scrawled it onto a notepad on the Senate floor in response to the Times story, would establish the eligibility of anyone born to a U.S. citizen who is serving overseas as an active or reserve member of the U.S. armed forces. The Arizona senator's father was a Navy officer serving in the Canal Zone when McCain was born there in 1936.


    "Senator McCain has earned the right to be his party's nominee, and no loophole should prevent him from competing in this campaign," Obama said.
    Posted at 12:15 PM ET on Feb 29, 2008
    Last edited by Aplomb; November 18th, 2008 at 22:14. Reason: added red to emphasis intent
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    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...questions.html

    This week's question:
    Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President?


    Answer:
    The Office of the Federal Register at the National Archives and Records Administration administers the Electoral College process, which takes place after the November general election. The Office of the Federal Register does not have the authority to handle issues related to the general election, such as candidate qualifications. People interested in this issue may wish to contact their state election officials or their Congressional Representatives.


    Because the process of qualifying for the election and having a candidate's name put on the ballot varies from state to state, you should contact your state's top election officer for more information. In most states, the Secretary of State is the official responsible for oversight of state elections, including the presidential election. Visit the National Secretaries of State web site to locate contact information and web addresses for the Secretary of State from each state and the District of Columbia.


    Under federal law an objection to a state's electoral votes may be made to the President of the Senate during Congress's counting of electoral votes in January. The objection must be made in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives debate the objection separately. Debate is limited to two hours. After the debate, both the Senate and the House of Representatives rejoin and both must agree to reject the votes.
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    Boy, nobody wants to take responsibility in this regard. Letters having been sent out to just about all of the electors by now may have something to do with that being the question of the week
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    canto XXV Dante

    from purgatory, the lustful... "open your breast to the truth which follows and know that as soon as the articulations in the brain are perfected in the embryo, the first Mover turns to it, happy...."
    Shema Israel

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    This link is to an ad that will appear in the Washington Times tomorrow, 11-19-2008. This is something that all America needs to know about because it is a Constitutional issue. http://www.f2a.org/NewsStory.cfm?Story_ID=2794

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    It'll be interesting what happens if no original, Dr. Signed, vault copy of his birth Certificate is ever presented. If 0 thinks he can thumb his nose at the Supreme Court, he's in for a civics lesson.
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    Thanks sami, excellent info. Now if everyone will just send off a letter to their states secretary of states that will help. You don't even have to get off of your lazy butts.

    In addition, that link that you provided...that is BIG NEWS!!! This is a journalist, finally, who has connections and understands the issue and wants to see what the big secret is all about. So let's get that out here for all the world to see.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=81197

    Where's the birth certificate?


    Posted: November 17, 2008
    1:00 am Eastern

    © 2008
    Incredibly, we are just nine weeks away from inaugurating the next [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]president [COLOR=blue ! important]of [/color][COLOR=blue ! important]the [/color][COLOR=blue ! important]United [/color][COLOR=blue ! important]States[/color][/color][/color] and millions of Americans still have [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]citizenship[/color][/color] eligibility questions that have never been addressed by [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Barack [COLOR=blue ! important]Obama[/color][/color][/color] and his entourage.


    All that Barack [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Obama[/color][/color]
    would have to do to put this issue to rest is to release his complete birth certificate, revealing where he was born and who were his parents.


    It seems a simple thing.


    Personally, I doubt the [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Democratic [COLOR=blue ! important]Party[/color][/color][/color] would be so stupid as to run an ineligible candidate for president of the United States. I doubt Hillary Clinton would have accepted defeat at the hands of a candidate ineligible for the job.


    So it would seem Obama is simply thumbing his nose at the Constitution and the concerns of millions of American people. After all, he has made it clear the Constitution doesn't mean what it says anyway. It's all a matter of opinion.


    Maybe his intransigence on this seemingly ridiculous matter is just his way of showing he will, as president, consider himself above the Constitution. I don't know any other way to interpret his behavior, do you?


    Until last week, no one in the Obama camp would even comment on the controversy surrounding his complete birth certificate, which has never been released publicly. That changed after much hounding by WND staffers who managed to get one official Obama representative to proclaim – anonymously, I might add – that seven lawsuits filed by citizens trying to secure the birth certificate are "pure garbage."


    Obama's record of non-cooperation and secrecy has now resulted in conspiracy theories that will plague him throughout his administration if he doesn't address them now with utter transparence. Do I expect him to do so? No, I don't.


    He not only thinks those lawsuits are "garbage," evidently that's also what he thinks of the people who truly believe the Constitution means what it says and those who believe there ought to be some controlling legal authority determining Obama's eligibility for the highest office in the land before he is sworn in Jan. 20.


    Count me among those who really want to see that birth certificate now.


    Imagine the level of secrecy we can expect from an Obama administration that guards his birth certificate with such tenacity.


    I'm calling on Barack Obama today to release the entire birth certificate. And just so there is no mistake about what I am calling for, I want the part of the birth certificate that shows which hospital he was born in and who his parents were. That is the only way to establish if he is truly a natural-born citizen. Further, I am asking as a journalist and pundit that if there is any [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]government [COLOR=blue ! important]agency[/color][/color][/color]
    or government official anywhere on the planet who has inspected the birth certificate and can provide those details to the American people, the time to do so is now.


    I'm also calling on all my colleagues, from coast to coast and around the world, not to let this matter drop. Apparently it is a point of real sensitivity with Obama people.



    Good. Let's rub it in. Let's demand he produce the birth certificate at every turn – at every press conference, at every appearance, on every talk show.


    Could anything be more important than enforcing the requirements of our Constitution?


    This is hardly a laughing matter. The longer this soap opera drags on, the more suspicions it will raise – the less credibility our electoral system will have, the more many people will believe the whole political system is rigged.


    Whom does that benefit?


    I honestly can't imagine.


    What possible motivation could Obama have for not producing this simple, innocuous document that every citizen must produce to get a passport, driver's license or Social Security card?


    Are you curious?


    So am I.


    Where's the birth certificate, Sen. Obama?
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    Here's additional info that you may find useful:

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...lege/laws.html

    State Laws and Requirements List of Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges, as of November 2000
    Source: Congressional Research Service
    The Office of the Federal Register presents this material for informational purposes only, in response to numerous public inquiries. The list has no legal significance. It is based on information compiled by the Congressional Research Service. For more comprehensive information, refer to the statutory provisions provided.




    No Legal Requirement
    Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
    ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
    ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
    DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
    GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
    IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
    ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
    INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
    IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
    KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
    KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
    LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
    MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes
    MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
    NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
    NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
    NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
    NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
    PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
    RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
    SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
    TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
    TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
    UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
    WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes

    Legal Requirements or Pledges
    Electors in these States are bound by State Law or by pledges to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
    ALABAMA - 9 Electoral Votes
    Party Pledge / State Law - § 17-19-2
    ALASKA - 3 Electoral Votes
    Party Pledge / State Law - § 15.30.040; 15.30.070
    CALIFORNIA - 55 Electoral Votes
    State Law - § 6906
    COLORADO - 9 Electoral Votes
    State Law - § 1-4-304
    CONNECTICUT - 7 Electoral Votes
    State Law § 9-175
    DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - 3 Electoral Votes
    DC Pledge / DC Law - § 1-1312(g)
    FLORIDA - 27 Electoral Votes
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    Default Re: Challenging Obama's Eligibility to be President

    I wonder if there is no birth certificate how one can claim any citizenship to any country, and how would one know who one's mother is, after all?

    Seems to me, in light of this information, Senator Obama's mommy might not have actually HAD him and he's an illegitimate kid that was picked up on the streets someplace in Africa or something.

    I mean, hey, I'm just sayin'....
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