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    Vatican Cardinal: "A New World Order is Gaining Ground"

    By John-Henry Westen

    ROME, November 20, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Speaking at the opening of the 23rd plenary assembly for the Pontifical Council for the Laity, the president of the Council, Cardinal Stanislaw Rylko, warned, "The idea of creating a 'new man' completely detached from the Judeo-Christian tradition, a new 'world order,' a new 'global ethic,' is gaining ground."

    According to the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, the cardinal denounced the "dictatorship of relativism," rampant in Western societies, in which there is a growing "anti-Christian attitude" that makes "attacks on Christians, and particular on Catholics, pass off as politically correct."

    Speaking of Christians today he said, "Our true problem is not being a minority, but rather having voluntarily become marginal, irrelevant, because of our lack of courage, so that we will be left alone, because of our mediocrity." "For Christians," Cardinal Rylko added, "the moment has arrived to free themselves from a false inferiority complex … to be valiant witnesses of Christ."

    This is, he said, the "hour of the laity," to take on their "responsibility in the diverse fields of public life, from politics to the promotion of life and family, from work to the economy, from education to the formation of youth."

    He warned, however, that such faithfulness would come at a personal cost. "Whoever wants to live and act according to the Gospel of Christ has to pay a price, even in the highly liberal societies of the West," he said.

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    The End of Empire America

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    Written by Robert Holmes
    Saturday, 15 November 2008
    Robert Holmes



    This article will cover a range of issues which have been brewing for six to twelve months in my heart. History will judge America as an empire. That empire is coming to an end. The election of Barak Obama is a significant prophetic event, marking the sunset of that empire, and the rising of other powers in the earth – who represent ancient powers and civilisations. These ideas have consequences for believers living both in the US and the countries who rely on her (like Australia). But to address those things, I need to go back eight years.

    Standing in Upstate New York in 2000, I had a conversation with the Lord which I shall never forget. The Lord asked me “How long does an empire last?” to which I asked, “Am I standing in an empire?” [it did not occur to me that I was standing in the Empire State!] Rather than answering me directly, He said, “All empires come to an end”. I pondered this for a moment. What empire? Was this country coming to an end? Then He asked a third question: “How do people position themselves as an empire nears its eventual end?” The implications of his line of thought were clear. America had become an empire, had influenced the world, but was now nearing the end of her reign as a sovereign super power. God wanted his people to know, their day in the sun is ending; the sunset is coming. He wanted them to make preparations and adjustments.

    What is an Empire?

    An empire is a group of peoples (or nation) ruled by powerful sovereigns, whose government dominates a significant portion of the world’s inhabitants, whose borders encroach upon a large portion of the world’s land mass for an extended, unbroken period of time. Less specifically, an empire’s culture, religious inclination and form of government are forcibly, or indirectly brought to bear upon those regions under its influence.

    The concept of an American Empire was first popularized in the aftermath of the Spanish-American War of 1898 (during which it took control of the Philippines and other Pacific island nations). America rates as an empire not only because of her global sovereignty but because of her super power status.

    She is actually the world’s first “hyper power”. Hubert Vedrine, the French Foreign Minister stated in July 2003 that, “The United States of America today predominates on the economic, monetary, technological and in the cultural arena … in terms of power and influence it is not comparable to anything known in modern history … in short the US is a hyper puissance [hyper power]”. (1) Here is how Stephen Peter Rose (from the Olin Institute for Strategic Studies in Harvard University) puts it: “The United States has no rival. We are militarily dominant around the world … We use our military dominance to intervene in the internal affairs of other countries … our goal is not combating a rival, but maintaining our imperial position, and maintaining imperial order,” (2).

    This frame of reference, the mind set is easily seen in numerous speeches by US leaders. Madeleine Albright during her tenure as U.S. Secretary of State said in February 1998, “If we have to use force, it is because we are America. We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see farther into the future.” That may have been true in 1990, but it is much less true in 2010.

    George W Bush Jr says, “Today the United States enjoys a position of unparalleled military strength and great economic and political influence … more and more the division that counts is the one separating America from everyone else.” (3) He is not the first to describe America this way, but he is the most recent. Former Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld categorically denies any imperialistic aspirations: “We don't seek empires. We're not imperialistic. We never have been.” (4) But his own government departments defy him.

    The State Department established the Office for Democracy and Global Affairs in 2001. The most interesting Bureau within that Office is Democracy, Human Rights and Labour (established in 2005). George W Bush Jr spoke at its inauguration, saying: “The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world,” (5) January 20, 2005. Read this as meaning “at any cost” even at the point of a gun.

    Alexander cometh!

    In 1999, as I prepared to travel to the US on ministry, the Lord gave me a very unusual prophetic word. He said that, “In the days of Babylon, when her walls stood wide and her leaders stood tall, her defences were strong and her campaigns victorious, Alexander the Great came and defeated her. In the same way, my Alexander will stand in the very midst of the United States of America”.

    The phrase “in the same way” indicates that America’s walls are wide, her leaders stand tall, her defences are strong, her campaigns until now have been victorious. But a man like Alexander – someone God refers to as “my Alexander” will stand in her midst, victorious and defeat her. Alexander the Great, a Mediteranean Greek, defeated Darius the Mede in 331BC at the Battle of Gaugamela, and the gates of Babylon swung open to him (when he was just 25 years old). He stood in the midst of the courtyard declaring himself king. He then spent considerable time and effort trying to restore Babylon to its former glory. As I prayed in preparation for going to the US two weeks ago on ministry again, I had a vision of a map of America from high above. There, almost in the centre of it was a marketplace. I zoomed down toward the marketplace, and saw a man standing there. I recognised by the Spirit that it was Alexander the Great, standing in a dusty, sandstone area, sword lifted high, victorious.

    I believe that God’s “Alexander” is Barak Obama. He has now stood in the middle of America, and declared his victory speech in Grant Park in Chicago. There, he prophetically declared, “Change has come to America,” (6). Yes indeed, it has. Barak, apart from having the appearance of a Middle Eastern or African man, is also very young and inexperienced. Barak Obama has not even had a full term in his senate position (he was elected in November 2004). I do not question the right of a 47 year old to rule a nation, but his inexperience is not reduced by his amazing oratory skill. “Your sons will take the place of your fathers; you will make them princes throughout [in all] the earth,” (Psalm 45:16 NIV).

    He represents the end of empire America as we know it, and the opening of a new regime, one which, like Alexander, represents a conflagration of old powers: European, Middle Eastern and Asian. He will try to restore America’s glory, but in doing so relegate her to second position on the global scene.
    Chinese communist armies may well stand ready to invade the US, but she is extremely well guarded. Muslim extremists are surely planning further self-destructive attacks on US soil, but she is well prepared. It is certain that European economies seek to outflank the US, but given the present economic collapse, their hopes fall with the US.

    There remains one great enemy the US has no protection against at all: themselves. It is to ourselves we must look. The society we have created, the environment we have destroyed, the economy we have overtaxed, the people we have abandoned, the poor we have ignored, the sin we have run toward, the morals we have abandoned. These things must change.

    - Arrogance and greed are their own poison.
    - Pride brings its own inevitable fall.
    - Moral corruption is its own debilitating cancer.

    America is in the cycle

    In a substantial review of empires, Salem Kirban concluded that “world dominating civilizations progress through the following fairly well defined sequence of stages” (7):

    - Bondage;
    - Spiritual faith/ revival;
    - Courage/ war;
    - Liberty for the people;
    - Prosperity/ abundance/ wealth;
    - Complacency/ apathy;
    - Dependency/ debt;
    - Moral corruption/ addiction;
    - Bondage.

    It does not take an historian or a scholar to see that America has traversed her way through this very cycle of life, and finds herself in the dependency/debt and moral corruption/ addiction stages. National debt stands at 10,639,613,228,421 today (that’s ten point six trillion and rising). It is the most indebted nation on earth. Debt stands at 70% of GDP. And to whom is that money owed? The US government itself owns about 43% of it. The next largest holder is the US Federal Reserve, and after that: Japan, China, Britain and Oil countries of the Middle East (who together hold 29%, which is more than private sector Americans). About 66% of the debt owned by foreign nations is held by banks of other countries, in particular the central banks of Japan and China. (8)

    Recall the prophetic words about the end of an empire, preparing for the days to come, and the appearance of an Alexander figure. The era of America’s dominance is closing. Barak will oversee the increase of influence of foreign powers in the US: the power of ancient nations and forces. Specifically: European, Middle Eastern and Asian.The everyday mortgages of middle income Americans are owned by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, which in turn are heavily indebted to Japan, China and Middle Eastern oil states. This situation will only get more and more entwined. America stands a very real exposure to risk should foreign banks stop buying Treasury securities or start selling them heavily.

    This risk was addressed in a recent report issued by the Bank of International Settlements which stated, “Foreign investors in U.S. dollar assets have seen big losses measured in dollars, and still bigger ones measured in their own currency. While unlikely … a sudden rush for the exits cannot be ruled out completely.” (9). One economic analyst, Nouriel Roubini keenly observes, “The US has squandered its uni-polar moment, the decline of the American Empire – as the US was a global empire – has started … We are indeed slowly moving towards a multi-polar world where there will be a balance of Great Powers rather than the hegemony of a single hyperpower.” (10)

    Change of government, but no change of heart

    There will be a change of president in the White House in January, 2009. The US president is moving from Republican to Democrat, but that does nothing to change the heart of the nation. The rise of a Black leader does nothing to address the moral malady she is in. Obama is not the nation’s savior. The nation is already deep in the throes of a national depression which will last between 2-10 years, it is the most indebted nation in history, and no man can rescue such a situation.

    If Kirban is right, and if this word is true, the nation will bring herself undone. She will decay, and implode – and then bondage must come. As Irish philosopher Edmund Burke once said, “Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters,” (11). Our passions must necessarily forge external fetters to govern us. Famine, strife, martial law, war, invasion and poverty ensue.

    God calls Barak Obama “my Alexander”. His standing in the midst of America, victorious was a prophetic announcement that change indeed has come to America. The American Empire is coming to an end. There is a global shift from a single super power to the rise of other powers in the earth. These ideas have consequences for believers living both in the US and the countries who rely on her. Our world is getting set to change! Now God asks, “How will you position yourself as the empire nears its eventual end?”

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    [Feast of Christ the King]

    ...the human desire and drive to have Kings and to almost adore them is, in effect, a rejection of God?


    5 And they said to him: Behold thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: make us a king, to judge us, as all nations have. 6 And the word was displeasing in the eyes of Samuel, that they should say: Give us a king, to judge us. And Samuel prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord said to Samuel: Hearken to the voice of the people in all that they say to thee. For they have not rejected thee, but me, that I should not reign over them. [ 1 Samuel 8]

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    Amish fight Michigan's Number of the Beast law



    AP File PhotoMichigan Amish fight state's plan to put the Mark of the Beast on their beasts of burden.

    The end times are soon at hand.

    That's what a group of Amish farmers believe is the result of the USDA's animal tagging program.
    November 17, 2008: Telegraph.co.uk: A group of seven Amish farmers in Michigan say the state's insistence that they use radio frequency ID devices on their animals "constitutes some form of a 'mark of the Beast' and/or represents an infringement of their 'dominion over cattle and all living things' in violation of their fundamental religious beliefs," according to their lawsuit.
    Some Amish, who have a booming business in producing organic milk, disagree with radio ID tagging so strongly that they said they will give up farming if they do not get an exemption.
    The USDA retaliated, trying to stay out of the fight and keep it a state issue.
    November 14, 2008: RFIDNews: The USDA responds that their tagging program is voluntary, and that it would be more appropriate for the farmers to direct their grievances at the state. According to the USDA's response, the farmers "cannot establish that any rule issued or action taken by the USDA either mandates the use of RFID tags on livestock located within Michigan, or, conversely, prevents the Michigan Department of Agriculture from granting appropriate religious exemptions imposed by that department."

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    Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
    Amish fight Michigan's Number of the Beast law



    AP File PhotoMichigan Amish fight state's plan to put the Mark of the Beast on their beasts of burden.

    The end times are soon at hand.

    That's what a group of Amish farmers believe is the result of the USDA's animal tagging program.
    November 17, 2008: Telegraph.co.uk: A group of seven Amish farmers in Michigan say the state's insistence that they use radio frequency ID devices on their animals "constitutes some form of a 'mark of the Beast' and/or represents an infringement of their 'dominion over cattle and all living things' in violation of their fundamental religious beliefs," according to their lawsuit.
    Some Amish, who have a booming business in producing organic milk, disagree with radio ID tagging so strongly that they said they will give up farming if they do not get an exemption.
    The USDA retaliated, trying to stay out of the fight and keep it a state issue.
    November 14, 2008: RFIDNews: The USDA responds that their tagging program is voluntary, and that it would be more appropriate for the farmers to direct their grievances at the state. According to the USDA's response, the farmers "cannot establish that any rule issued or action taken by the USDA either mandates the use of RFID tags on livestock located within Michigan, or, conversely, prevents the Michigan Department of Agriculture from granting appropriate religious exemptions imposed by that department."
    Well.. good for them and tough on them. They won't lift a weapon to fight either, for the most part.

    So they will just "give up".
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    I admire these people and sincerely consider most as Holier than moi.
    Often lawyers move in to protect them from big brother- some had a dispute recently about their vehicles. Problem is, their belief systym is a bit pharasitical at times, and
    and the saduccetical barristers move in to suck up the dough- when they touch pitch- black they become.

    Hopefully God will protect their industry. If I was them, I'd ring the corrals knee deep in bullshit and say- God be with you humble servants- chip the beasts.

    Thanks for the rfid link. These are good items. Only 2 bucks a chip- anyone know how to buy in small quantities- say 100 or even 10?

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    I grew up in an Amish area, and I have to say they were some of the very best neighbor's I've ever experienced, bar none, with a work ethic that pretty much blows away most people now days.

    I tip my hat to them for walking their talk, they truely do live their values, but man does not survive who isn't willing to adapt with the times to at least some degree. I greatly respect living simply and ignoring the trash of popular culture, but there is a lot of technological good they are also ignoring.

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    Ky. atheists want God out of homeland security

    State law requires office to acknowledge divine help in anti-terror efforts


    updated 10:30 a.m. CT, Wed., Dec. 3, 2008

    FRANKFORT, Kentucky - A group of atheists filed a lawsuit Tuesday seeking to remove part of a state anti-terrorism law that requires Kentucky's Office of Homeland Security to acknowledge it can't keep the state safe without God's help.

    American Atheists Inc. sued in state court over a 2002 law that stresses God's role in Kentucky's homeland security alongside the military, police agencies and health departments.

    Of particular concern is a 2006 clause requiring the Office of Homeland Security to post a plaque that says the safety and security of the state "cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon almighty God" and to stress that fact through training and educational materials.

    The plaque, posted at the Kentucky Emergency Operations Center in Frankfort, includes the Bible verse: "Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."

    "It is one of the most egregiously and breathtakingly unconstitutional actions by a state legislature that I've ever seen," said Edwin F. Kagin, national legal director of Parsippany, New Jersey-based American Atheists Inc. The group claims the law violates both the state and U.S. constitutions.

    But Democratic state Rep. Tom Riner, a Baptist minister from Louisville, said he considers it vitally important to acknowledge God's role in protecting Kentucky and the United States.

    "No government by itself can guarantee perfect security," Riner said. "There will always be this opposition to the acknowledgment of divine providence, but this is a foundational understanding of what America is."

    Center of legal battles
    Kentucky has been at the center of a series of legal battles involving religious issues in recent years, most involving displays of the Ten Commandments in public buildings. One case went to the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled in 2005 that such displays inside courthouses in two counties were unconstitutional.

    Kentucky isn't the only state dealing with religious issues, but Ed Buckner, president of American Atheists, said it's alone in officially enlisting God in homeland security.

    "I'm not aware of any other state or commonwealth that is attempting to dump their clear responsibility for protecting their citizens onto God or any other mythological creature," Buckner said.

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    Does God Run Homeland Security?

    Atheist Group Sues Kentucky Over Law Saying Safety Cannot Be Achieved Without God

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    An atheist group is suing the state of Kentucky over a law proclaiming God's all-important role in protecting the state from homeland security threats. State emergency preparedness materials must also push the concept, under the law. (CBS/AP)

    (AP) A group of atheists filed a lawsuit Tuesday seeking to remove part of a state anti-terrorism law that requires Kentucky's Office of Homeland Security to acknowledge it can't keep the state safe without God's help.

    American Atheists Inc. sued in state court over a 2002 law that stresses God's role in Kentucky's homeland security alongside the military, police agencies and health departments.

    Of particular concern is a 2006 clause requiring the Office of Homeland Security to post a plaque that says the safety and security of the state "cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon almighty God" and to stress that fact through training and educational materials.

    The plaque, posted at the Kentucky Emergency Operations Center in Frankfort, includes the Bible verse: "Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."

    "It is one of the most egregiously and breathtakingly unconstitutional actions by a state legislature that I've ever seen," said Edwin F. Kagin, national legal director of Parsippany, N.J.-based American Atheists Inc. The group claims the law violates both the state and U.S. constitutions.

    But Democratic state Rep. Tom Riner, a Baptist minister from Louisville, said he considers it vitally important to acknowledge God's role in protecting Kentucky and the nation.

    "No government by itself can guarantee perfect security," Riner said. "There will always be this opposition to the acknowledgment of divine providence, but this is a foundational understanding of what America is."

    I'm not aware of any other state or commonwealth that is attempting to dump their clear responsibility for protecting their citizens onto God or any other mythological creature.
    Ed Buckner, president, American Atheists

    Kentucky has been at the center of a series of legal battles involving religious issues in recent years, most involving displays of the Ten Commandments in public buildings. One case went to the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled in 2005 that such displays inside courthouses in two counties were unconstitutional.

    Kentucky isn't the only state dealing with religious issues, but Ed Buckner, president of American Atheists, said it's alone in officially enlisting God in homeland security.

    "I'm not aware of any other state or commonwealth that is attempting to dump their clear responsibility for protecting their citizens onto God or any other mythological creature," Buckner said.

    State Rep. David Floyd, R-Bardstown, said the preamble to the Kentucky constitution references a people "grateful to almighty God," so he said he sees no constitutional violation in enlisting God in the state's homeland security efforts.

    "God help us if we don't," he said.

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    Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in Catholic schools, say church leaders

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    Last updated at 7:48 PM on 02nd December 2008


    Bishops want prayer rooms opened in every Roman Catholic school (file photo)


    Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, church leaders have said.

    The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want facilities in schools for Islamic pre-prayer washing rituals.

    The demands go way beyond legal requirements on catering for religious minorities.

    But the bishops - who acknowledge 30 per cent of pupils at their schools hold a non-Christian faith - want to answer critics who say religious schools sow division.

    The recommendations were made in a document, Catholic Schools, Children of Other Faiths and Community Cohesion.

    'If practicable, a room (or rooms) might be made available for the use of pupils and staff from other faiths for prayer,' the bishops said.
    'Existing toilet facilities might be adapted to accommodate individual ritual cleansing which is sometimes part of religious lifestyle and worship.

    'If such space is not available on a permanent or regular basis, extra efforts might be made to address such need for major religious festivals.'

    The Islamic cleansing ritual, called 'Wudhu', is carried out by Muslims before they pray.

    Islam teaches that Muslims are unfit for prayer if they have not performed Wudhu after breaking wind or using the toilet.

    Wudhu involves washing the face, hands, arms and feet three times each, gargling the mouth three times and washing the neck and inside the nose and ears. Some Muslims also wash their private parts.

    Catholic schools would need to install bidets, foot spas and hoses to facilitate such extensive cleansing rituals, Muslims say.

    Daphne McLeod, a former Catholic head teacher from south London, said it would be 'terribly expensive' for the country's 2,300 Catholic primary and secondary schools to provide ritual cleansing facilities.

    She said: 'If Muslim parents choose a Catholic school then they accept that it is going to be a Catholic school and there will not be facilities for ritual cleansing and prayer rooms.

    'They do their ritual cleansing before they go to a mosque, but they are not going to a mosque.

    'I don't think the bishops should go looking for problems. Where will it stop?'

    But Majid Khatme, a Muslim who sent his children to a London Catholic school, said he was delighted by the gesture.

    'It is very kind of the bishops if they give this facility for Muslims to pray,' he said.

    'I would love to send a letter of thanks to the bishops, really. If they do this all Muslims in Britain will be thankful to the Catholic Church to have facilities to pray. It is very, very encouraging.'

    The recommendations have been approved by Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Birmingham and the favourite to succeed Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor as Catholic primate.

    But it would be up to governing bodies of each school to decide whether to act on the guidance.

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    School cancels Christmas nativity in favour of Muslim Eid celebrations

    A primary school has cancelled its Christmas nativity in favour of Muslim festival of Eid celebrations because it would be too much for the children to do both.

    By Nick Britten
    Last Updated: 2:30PM GMT 03 Dec 2008

    Greenwood Junior School sent out a letter to parents saying the three-day festival of Eid al-Adha, which takes place between December 8 and 11, meant that Muslim children would be off school.

    That meant planning for the traditional nativity play were shelved because the school felt it would be too difficult to run both celebrations side by side.

    The move has left parents furious.

    Janette Lynch, whose seven-year-old son Keanu attends the school, in Sneinton, Nottingham, said: "The head has a whole year to plan for Eid and so she should be able to plan for both religious festivals.

    "I have never heard of this at a school. It is the first year my son has been there and a lot of the mums like me were really looking forward to seeing the children in the nativity."

    She said a letter, sent from "The staff at Greenwood Junior School', said: "It is with much regret that we have had to cancel this year's Christmas performances. This is due to the Eid celebrations that take place next week and its effect on our performers."

    The school is to hold a number of children's Eid activities for those pupils who do not take two days off to celebrate with their families.

    Following outrage from parents, the school was forced to send out a second letter saying that the Christmas play would be done in January.

    Sent by the head teacher, Amber Latif, and Yvonne Wright, chair of governors, it apologised for "any misunderstanding" but said it had to respect "the cultures and religions of all the children".

    It added: "The Christmas performance has not been cancelled outright but has been postponed until the New Year."

    Parents said they were originally told the performance was cancelled because children wanted to celebrate Eid with their families at home, and planning of the school year made it difficult to move performance dates to another week.

    Sajad Hussain, 35, of who has two children at Greenwood Junior, said: "My children will be off for the two days next week to see their family.

    "It's not that complicated; they could have one event on one day and another on another day, they should have both celebrations at the school.
    "If you do not have both it becomes a racist thing and that's why you have to be careful If an issue is made out of it, it could become nasty."

    Yesterday, a statement issued by Greenwood Junior, said: "We would like to apologise for any confusion caused as a result of [the original] letter we sent out and would like to reassure parents and the community that Christmas has not been cancelled at Greenwood Junior School.

    "For very practical reasons we have taken the difficult decision to re-arrange some significant events on the school calendar to ensure maximum pupil and staff attendance."

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    Looks like the Amish are in over their head...dejavu.

    Swat Team conducts food raid in rural Ohio
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    On Monday, December 1, a SWAT team with semi-automatic rifles entered the private home of the Stowers family in LaGrange, Ohio, herded the family onto the couches in the living room, and kept guns trained on parents, children, infants and toddlers, from approximately 11 AM to 8 PM. The team was aggressive and belligerent. The children were quite traumatized. At some point, the “bad cop” SWAT team was relieved by another team, a “good cop” team that tried to befriend the family. The Stowers family has run a very large, well-known food cooperative called Manna Storehouse on the western side of the greater Cleveland area for many years.There were agents from the Department of Agriculture present, one of them identified as Bill Lesho. The search warrant is reportedly supicious-looking. Agents began rifling through all of the family’s possessions, a task that lasted hours and resulted in a complete upheaval of every private area in the home.

    Many items were taken that were not listed on the search warrant. The family was not permitted a phone call, and they were not told what crime they were being charged with. They were not read their rights. Over ten thousand dollars worth of food was taken, including the family’s personal stock of food for the coming year. All of their computers, and all of their cell phones were taken, as well as phone and contact records. The food cooperative was virtually shut down. There was no rational explanation, nor justification, for this extreme violation of Constitutional rights.
    Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a retail establishment without a license. Why then the Gestapo-type interrogation for a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge? This incident has raised the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State regulation and enforcement over the nation’s private food supply.

    This same type of abusive search and seizure was reported by those innocents who fell victim to oppressive federal drug laws passed in the 1990s. The present circumstance raises the obvious question: is there some rabid new interpretation of an existing drug law that considers food a controlled substance worthy of a nasty SWAT operation? Or worse, is there a previously unrecognized provision(s) pertaining to food in the Homeland Security measures? Some have suggested that it was merely an out-of-control, hot-to-trot ODA agent, and, if so, this would be a best-case scenario. Anything else might spell the beginning of the end for the freedom to eat unregulated and unmonitored food.

    One blogger familiar with the Ohio situation has reported that:
    “Interestingly, I believe they [Manna Storehouse] said a month or so ago, an undercover ODA official came to their little store and claimed to have a sick father wanting to join the co-op. Both the owner and her daughter-in-law had a horrible feeling about the man, and decided not to allow him into the co-op and notified him by certified mail. He came back to the co-op demanding to be part of it. They refused and gave him names of other businesses and health food stores closer to his home. Not coincidentally, this man was there yesterday as part of the raid.”
    The same blog also noted that the Ohio Department of Agriculture has been chastised by the courts in several previous instances for its aggression, including trying to entrap an Amish man in a raw milk “sale,” which backfired when it became known that the Amish believe in a literal interpretation of “give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away” (Matthew 5:42)

    The issue appears to be the discovery of a bit of non-institutional beef in an Oberlin College food service freezer a year ago that was tracked down by a county sanitation official to Manna Storehouse. Oberlin College’s student food coop is widely known for its strident ideological stance about eating organic foods. It seems that the Oberlin student food cooperative had joined the Manna Storehouse food cooperative in order to buy organic foods in bulk from the national organic food distributor United, which services buying clubs across the nation. The sanitation official, James Boddy, evidently contacted the Ohio Department of Agriculture. After the first contact by state ODA officials, Manna Storehouse reportedly wrote them a letter requesting assistance and guidelines for complying with the law. This letter was never answered. Rather, the ODA agent tried several times to infiltrate the coop, as described above. When his attempts failed, the SWAT team showed up!

    Food cooperatives and buying clubs have been an active part of the American landscape for over a generation. In the 1970s, with the rise of the organic food industry (a direct outgrowth of the hippie back-to-nature movement) food coops started up all over the country. These were groups of people who freely associated for the purpose of combining their buying power so that they could order organic food items in bulk and case lots. Anyone who was part of these coops in the early era will remember the messy breakdown of 35 pounds of peanut butter and 5 gallon drums of honey!

    These buying clubs have persisted and flourished over the years due to their ability to purchase high quality organic foods at reduced prices in bulk quantities. Most cooperatives have participated greatly in the local agrarian economies, supporting neighborhood organic farmers with purchases of produce, eggs, chickens, etc. The groups also purchase food from a number of different local, regional and national distributors, many of them family-based businesses who truck the food themselves. Some of these food cooperatives have become large enough to set up mini-storefront operations where members can drop in and purchase items leftover from case lot sales. Manna Storehouse had established itself in such a manner, using a small enclosed breezeway attached to their home. It was a folksy place with old wooden floors where coop members stopped by to chat and snack on bags of organic corn chips.

    The state of Ohio boasts the second largest Amish population in the country. Many of the Amish live on acreages where they raise their own food, not unlike Manna Storehouse, and sell off the extras to neighbors and church members. There is a sense of foreboding that this state crackdown on a longstanding, reputable food cooperative operation could adversely impact the peaceful agrarian way of life not only for the Amish, but homeschoolers and those families living off the land on rural acreages. It raises the disturbing possibility that it could become a crime to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the road, or butcher your own chickens for family and friends – bustling activities that routinely take place in backwater America.

    The freedom to purchase food directly form the source is increasingly under attack. For those who have food allergies and chemical intolerances, or who are on special medical diets, this is becoming a serious health issue. Will Americans retain the right to purchase food that is uncontaminated by pesticides, herbicides, allergens, additives, dyes, preservatives, MSG, GMOs, radiation, etc.? The melamine scare from China underscores the increasingly inferior and suspect quality of modern processed institutional foods. One blog, commenting on the bizarre and troubling Manna Storehouse situation, observed that:
    “No one is saying exactly why. At the same time the FDA says it it safe to eat the 40% of tainted beef found in Costco’s and Sam’s all over the nation. These farm raids are very common now. Every farmer needs to fully eqiped [sic] for the possibility of it happening to them. The Farmer To Consumer Legal Defense Fund was created just for this purpose. The USDA just released their plans to put a law into action that will put all small farmers out of business. Animals for the sale of meat or milk will only be allowed in commercial farms, even the organic ones.” December 3, 2008 7:09 PM

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    I couldn't find the search warrant. Keep an eye on this.

    Here's the animal id link.
    http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/aa2006/infoalert_032006.html

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    Original:
    Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Kommunist.

    Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

    Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
    habe ich nicht protestiert;
    ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

    Als sie die Juden holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Jude.

    Als sie mich holten,
    gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

    Translation:
    When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a communist.

    When they locked up the social democrats,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.

    When they came for the trade unionists,
    I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.

    When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a Jew.

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    Here's what the government is trying to do to small farms.


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    Police SWAT Team Holds Entire Family at Gunpoint for Hours

    Published 17 hours ago, by ■ Patrick Burwell

    A police SWAT team conducted a food raid in rural Ohio, holding an entire family at gunpoint for hours without explanation. John Loeffler of IRN joined Brannon Howse of WVN to report this latest story.

    Brannon Howse interviewed John Loeffler about his article on ChristianWorldviewNetwork.com on why SWAT police, armed for riot control weapons, packing automatic rifles and armored for a terrorist response stormed a family food cooperative in Ohio.




    Agents from the State of Ohio Department of Agriculture with the S.W.A.T. team did not give any explanation to the family other than a warrant, did not provide them a phone call, did not charge the family with anything as they burst into their private home. But what they did do was make a big mess, taking over ten thousand dollars of merchandise with them, reported the IVN Bureau Chief.
    "They were not read their rights… Over ten thousand dollars worth of food was taken, including the family’s personal stock of food for the coming year. All of their computers and all of their cell phones were taken, as well as phone and contact records. The food cooperative was virtually shut down. There was no rational explanation, nor justification, for this extreme violation of Constitutional rights." - John Loeffler, IRN/USA
    Mr. Loeffler is the Station Bureau Chief of IRN/USA Radio News, a 40-year broadcast news veteran and host of the weekly news program “Steel on Steel” (www.steelonsteel.com), which began in 1990, heard on the
    Information Radio Network.

    America is now becoming a nation that steals food from its own citizens?
    "Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a retail establishment without a license. Why then the Gestapo-type interrogation for a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge? This incident has raised the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State regulation and enforcement over the nation’s private food supply."- steveandpaularunyan.blogspot.com
    Have we entered a new era of police brutality at the hands of our own government?

    John said, “They kept guns trained on the parents, the kids, toddlers, from about 11 in the morning until eight in the afternoon.” Is this what we expect now from our government?

    We’ll be reporting more on this story as it develops.

    A call was placed this morning to the Farmer to Consumer Legal Defense Fund for a statement on whether they will be representing the Stowers family and the Mannah Storehouse in the future but there was no answer. The Stowers family cannot be reached but an email was dispatched for comment.

    The radio talk show Brannon Howse streams live every day [http://www.worldviewmatters.net] is an excellent source of information and worth your while subscribing to.

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    Update: The Stowers Family representative has responded and stated they would be making a statement in the near future. -Patrick J Burwell

    Update:
    1820hrs: December 5, 2008
    A call to the Lagrange Township Sheriff's Department, 440-329-3710, and the Lorain Sheriff Dept., (440)355-4469, Reports there was no SWAT call for that address December 1st.

    The Family is still not available for further comment but the IRN Network Bureau Chief reported SWAT was there with a specific Department of Agriculture agent.

    I placed a call to John Loeffler who is presently recording his radio show and he will respond by phone when he comes out.
    More details to follow as they are revealed...

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...ts=&newsindex=

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    Thanks. I'd still like to see the warrant. USDA? ATF? If no one was arrested- no need to read rights- I'm sure they were told they're free to leave in orderly fashion.

    Something's missing here.

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    This applies if you own one chicken or a thousand sows. (It should come as no
    surprise that the only entities which seem somewhat spared by this new plan are the largest multinational
    confinement livestock operations who will be required only to register the holding facility
    and not the individual animals.) And those electronically sensitive micro-chips? They are being built
    and sold by several of the co-authors of this NAIS plan. (See the listing in the second paragraph of
    page 55 of this issue.)
    The USDA, put there originally to protect the food supply and to support the agricultural diversity
    and productivity of this country, has sold us down the river

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    Wait til they raid my beer brewing plant in the kitchen...

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    I keep my brewing gear in the basement. I just bottled 5g of Irish dry stout, and I have an experimental 2g batch of a honey-nut barleywine going.

    If the Feds want my homebrew stash, they'll have to take it over my cold dead highly intoxicated body.

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