You know... maybe there was something to that stupid Mayan prophecy.... Perhaps... the world will end on the 21st, because that will be when the nukes start flying....
Libertatem Prius!
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PA Chairman promises that someday the PA flag will fly over “Jerusalem, eternal capital of the state of Palestine.”
By Chana Ya'ar First Publish: 12/2/2012, 2:58 PM
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas Sunday promised someday the PA flag would fly over “Jerusalem, eternal capital of the state of Palestine.”
Thousands of people greeted Abbas rapturously upon his return from the United Nations, where the General Assembly granted the PLO, representing the PA, upgraded status as a nonmember observer state.
"Raise your heads high, because you are Palestinians!” Abbas told the joyous crowd, waving PA flags in the PA capital of Ramallah, located in Samaria.
"You have proof that you are stronger than the occupation, because you are Palestinians... stronger than the settlements, because you are Palestinians.
"We were threatened with punishment and sanctions from various sides,” Abbas continued, in a reference to attempts by the United States and Israel to dissuade him from proceeding with the application.
"And if we had listened to those threats we wouldn't have gone to the U.N.
"One day, a young Palestinian will raise the Palestinian flag over Jerusalem,” he vowed, “the eternal capital of the state of Palestine!”
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Unconfirmed news reports out of Israel signal that an offer of US troops to secure the borders of a new Palestinian state is in the mix in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. US defense analysts urge caution.
By Anna Mulrine 19 hours ago
Secretary of State John Kerry is proposing to offer up US troops to help secure the borders of the new state of Palestine, according to some unconfirmed news reports coming out of Israel.
How plausible is the possibility? And would it be a good idea, or, as some military analysts argue, would the White House would be “nuts” to consider it?
The US troops would be tasked with helping to prevent anti-Israel forces from coming out of Jordan and reaching Israel, according to Debkafile, an Israeli intelligence and security news service.
Palestinian officials are demanding that Israel move its forces from the Jordan Valley, where the US troops would be stationed. This point may have proved pivotal in the US administration’s reported decision to offer them up.
Samantha Power, then a Harvard professor and now the US ambassador to the United Nations, seemed to indicate in a 2008 interview with Harry Kreisler of the University of California at Berkeley’s Institute of International Studies that crisis in the region could possibly be ameliorated by the introduction of US troops to provide security needs.
To head off a human rights crisis in the West Bank and other Palestinian territories “may mean, more crucially, sacrificing – or investing, I think, more than sacrificing – literally billions of dollars, not in servicing Israel’s military, but actually investing in the new state of Palestine. In investing billions of dollars it would probably take also to support, I think, what will have to be a mammoth protection force ... a meaningful military presence,” she said. “Because it seems to me at this stage – and this is true of actual genocides as well, and not just major human rights abuses, which we’re seeing there – is that you have to go in as if you’re serious. You have to put something on the line.”
The State Department is not commenting on the latest reports, but many US military analysts are convinced such a move would be a bad idea.
“When you look at it from a military perspective, I don’t see any good that would come of it,” says David Maxwell, associate director of the Center for Security Studies (CSS) at Georgetown University’s Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in Washington.
The 1983 truck-bombing attack of a US Marines barracks in Beirut, which killed nearly 300 US and and French troops, is one example of what could go wrong.
“I look at this and I say, ‘Gosh, we don’t have a good track record in the Middle East,' ” he says. “I can just see US forces becoming a lightning rod, a target.”
True, the Pentagon has had troops in the Sinai Peninsula for years to help ensure peace between Egypt and Israel following the 1978 Camp David Accords. There are also US troops helping to train Palestinian forces.
But these are ongoing operations that generally fall under the radar screen.
A force based in the Jordan Valley and dedicated to securing borders would also mean that US troops would have to man checkpoints and prevent possible insurgent infiltration through Palestinian territory into Israel.
“That’s a huge security operation, and we’d be talking thousands of US troops if they were going to be effective," says Mr. Maxwell.
Retired Col. Robert Killebrew, a nonresident fellow at the Center for a New American Security in Washington, recalls working as a military planner when President Jimmy Carter announced – in the wake of the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan – that he would oppose Soviet expansionism “by any means possible.”
In Pentagon parlance, this means military force, and so then Mr. Killebrew and fellow military colleagues began writing plans to bring US troops to the Middle East, to be deployed in the event that the Soviets pushed from Afghanistan into Iran in an effort to gain access to the Persian Gulf.
This planning “sent a shiver through the Pentagon and the services,” since, at the time, it had major war plans only in the case of a Soviet invasion of Europe or of a breakdown of peace on the Korean peninsula.
The plans the US military put in place for this scenario, including buying extended-range cargo planes and a dozen fast sealift ships, ended up being the template for the first Gulf war.
Still, in the Middle East at the time, “There was an unspoken rule that we didn’t want US troops to be hostages to fortune in a region so volatile,” Killebrew says.
And that should continue to be the case, he adds. “We would be nuts to put troops into a peacekeeping operation in the Middle East,” he argues. “The problem for peacekeeping troops – and US forces would be no exception – is if there isn’t a peace to keep, then what?”
It is also not clear that the Israelis would go for any such plan. “I wouldn’t rely on foreign forces,” Maj. Gen. Avi Mizrahi, former commander of the Israeli Defense Force, told the Times of Israel.
Palestinians, on the other hand, may support the plan. “They may look at it as if US forces would be restraining on the Israeli forces,” says Maxwell at CSS. To others, however, it could “send such a visual signal of occupation.”
Another challenge would be figuring out an exit strategy. “How do you determine there’s sufficient security for troops to leave?” he adds. “We’re talking years and years.”
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US secretary of state meets for 3 hours with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah; says will visit Saudi Arabia on Sunday to discuss Israel-Palestinian peace negotiations.
John Kerry and Mahmoud Abbas. Photo: Reuters
RAMALLAH, West Bank - Israel and the Palestinians are making progress towards reaching a framework peace agreement but they are not there yet, US
Secretary of State John Kerry told reporters on Saturday.
Kerry was speaking after about three hours of talks with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah, the Palestinian seat of government in the West Bank.
"I am confident that the talks we have had in the last two days have already fleshed out and even resolved certain kinds of issues and presented new opportunities for others," he said.
Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat urged Israel to stop building Jewish settlements over the Green Line, on land the Palestinians want for a future state and to halt house demolitions, which rights groups view as a form of collective punishment.
But Erekat, standing beside Kerry in Ramallah, also made a case for peace directly to the Palestinians.
"No one benefits more from the success of Secretary Kerry's efforts than Palestinians and no one stands to lose more (from) failure than Palestinians," he said.
Kerry is on his tenth trip to the region in the past year as he seeks to secure a peace deal.
Israeli-Palestinian peace talks brokered by the United States resumed last July after a three-year halt with Kerry leading mediation efforts to keep them going despite neither party expressing much hope for a successful outcome.
Kerry said he would fly to Jordan and to Saudi Arabia on Sunday to meet with the kings of each Arab nation to discuss the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, which resumed on July 29 with a target of reaching a final agreement within nine months.
During the meeting Kerry declared that peace is not “a mission impossible," while the premier spoke of growing Israeli doubts about the Palestinian commitment to peace.
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Oh, hell no! Sounds like someone floating a trial balloon. If so, Kerry, be aware said balloon is popped.
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Secretary of State John Kerry is proposing to offer up US troops to help secure the borders of the new state of Palestine, according to some unconfirmed news reports coming out of Israel.
How plausible is the possibility? And would it be a good idea, or, as some military analysts argue, would the White House would be “nuts” to consider it?
The US troops would be tasked with helping to prevent anti-Israel forces from coming out of Jordan and reaching Israel, according to Debkafile, an Israeli intelligence and security news service.
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Jerusalem (AFP) - US Secretary of State John Kerry came under further attack Monday by Israeli hawks who accuse him of manipulating the threat of an economic boycott to pressure Israel into peace concessions.
The latest war of words between the two allies erupted Saturday after Kerry warned that Israel was facing a growing campaign of delegitimization which would likely worsen if peace talks with the Palestinians collapsed.
Washington's top diplomat also referred to "talk of boycotts" of Israel.
A growing number of governments and businesses have said they will not trade with Israeli firms with ties to Jewish settlements, highlighting the creeping success of a Palestinian-led boycott campaign.
The so-called BDS movement -- boycott, divestment and sanctions -- works to convince governments, businesses and celebrities to cut ties with Israeli companies active in the occupied Palestinian territories, in a bid to repeat the success of the boycott which ended apartheid in South Africa.
Hardliners in the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were quick to lash out at Kerry.
One described his remarks as "offensive" and another accused him of working "to amplify" the boycott threat, prompting a terse statement from Washington urging Kerry's critics to get their facts straight. View gallery
John Kerry walks past American and Israeli flags at Ben Gurion International Airport in Tel Aviv on …
Cabinet ministers continued their tirade on Monday, but Netanyahu appealed for calm later in the day.
"It is sad to see that the US administration does not understand the reality of the Middle East and exerts pressure on the wrong side in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict," said Gilad Erdan, the minister for Home Front Defence and a close associate of Netanyahu.
"I would have liked John Kerry to explain to (Palestinian president) Mahmud Abbas what is likely to happen if he continues to refuse to make peace," he told public radio.
Housing Minister Uri Ariel of the far-right Jewish Home party, which opposes a two-state solution to the conflict, told army radio that in raising the threat of a boycott, Kerry was not being "an honest broker" in the negotiations.
On Sunday, even Netanyahu took an indirect swipe at Kerry, saying attempts to boycott Israel were "immoral and unjust" and that he would not bow to pressure in the negotiations.
"No pressure will cause me to concede the vital interests of the State of Israel, especially the security of Israel's citizens. For both of these reasons, threats to boycott the State of Israel will not achieve their goal."
But the prime minister sought to reduce the tension on Monday, acknowledging Kerry "opposes boycotts against Israel," after speaking with him by telephone the day before.
"There may be periods of misunderstandings and disagreements," Netanyahu said in Israel's parliament, according to a statement from his office.
"The best way to clarify misunderstandings or express differences of opinion is by substantively discussing the issues and not by engaging in personal attacks."
US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki hit back at the initial criticism, saying Kerry had demonstrated "staunch opposition to boycotts" and his remarks in Munich had merely "described some well-known and previously stated facts about what is at stake for both sides if this process fails."
"His only reference to a boycott was a description of actions undertaken by others that he has always opposed," she said, suggesting his critics should try to "accurately portray his record and statements."
On Sunday, Intelligence Minister Yuval Steinitz called Kerry's remarks "offensive, unfair and intolerable," and said Israel would could not be expected "to negotiate with a gun at its head while it discusses issues critical to its diplomatic and security interests."
And on Saturday, Economy Minister and Jewish Home leader Naftali Bennett said Israel would not "give its country up over economic threats" and that it expected its allies "to stand by our side in the face of the anti-Semitic boycott attempts, not amplify them."
Dept. Defense Minister responds to new boycott threats by US Sec. of State Kerry: 'Friends don't put ultimatums on Israel's security.'
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By Ari Yashar First Publish: 2/1/2014, 6:51 PM
United States Secretary of State John Kerry
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US Secretary of State John Kerry on Saturday threatened Israel that a failure in the peace talks would lead to global boycotts and delegitimization of the Jewish state. The warning comes as no surprise to those familiar with reports earlier in the month, which revealed that Kerry is orchestrating the European boycotts against Israel.
Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon responded to Kerry's threats of boycotts, saying "we respect Secretary of State Kerry but will not hold talks with a gun to our head. Friends don't put ultimatums on the security of the state of Israel."
Speaking at a security council in Munchen, Germany, Kerry also mentioned Defense Secretary Moshe Ya'alon's comments calling Kerry "messianic" and "obsessive" in trying to force Israel to submit to a peace deal, which would include massive territorial withdrawals and an Arab capital in Jerusalem.
"I'm a little surprised by the articles quoting statements on obsession or a fanatical effort to try and achieve peace," remarked Kerry. "We're just working hard, and I still am full of hope that our efforts will succeed and bring a peace agreement."
At the same time that he rejected accusations of "fanaticism," Kerry stated "we're working hard, because the consequences of failure are unacceptable to us." Kerry's plan reportedly includes Israeli withdrawals along the 1949 Armistice lines.
Danon declared in response "we will make decisions that guard the interests of the state of Israel. If we made choices based on the various forecasts of boycotts, we wouldn't be here today. In the past we saw that wherever the IDF wasn't present terror takes root."
Following the 2005 "Disengagement" plan that expelled all Jews from Gaza, the terror group Hamas took over the area and launched several waves of deadly attacks, resulting in two major counterterrorism operations in 2009 and 2012.
The ceasefire that was brokered by the Egyptians after the 2012 Operation Pillar of Defense was assessed as being dead by some security officials earlier this month following ongoing rocket barrages from Gaza.
This is not the first time the US Secretary of State has threatened Israeli security or interests in the event his country's "peace initiative" is not adopted by the Jewish state.
Last November, Kerry threatened that Israel would face a "Third Intifada" - or violent uprising - if talks did not end with a "Palestinian state" in Judea and Samaria.
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Secretary of State John Kerry is facing new criticism in Israel for invoking threatened boycotts of Israel as a key reason the Israeli government should agree to a framework peace agreement with the Palestinians. One government minister called Kerry’s statement “offensive.”
At the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, Kerry said, “[Y]ou see for Israel there’s an increasing de-legitimization campaign that has been building up. People are very sensitive to it. There are talk of boycotts and other kinds of things. Are we all going to be better with all of that?”
Intelligence Minister Yuval Steinitz on Sunday morning said Israel cannot be pressured to negotiate with “a gun against its head” and that Kerry’s remarks were “offensive and unacceptable.”
Economy Minister Naftali Bennett of the right-wing Jewish Home party had a message for “all of the advice givers.”
“Never has a nation abandoned their land because of economic threats. We are no different,” Bennett wrote on Facebook in response to Kerry’s comments. “Only security will ensure economic stability. Not a terrorist state next to Ben Gurion Airport.”
“We expect our friends around the world to stand beside us, against anti-Semitic boycott efforts targeting Israel, and not for them to be their amplifier,” Bennett added.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu weighed in on the boycott threats, primarily from Europe, during his weekly cabinet meeting, though he did not directly criticize Kerry.
According to a transcript of his remarks posted on the prime minister’s website, Netanyahu called attempts to boycott Israel “immoral and unjust.”
“They will not achieve their goal,” Netanyahu said. “First, they cause the Palestinians to adhere to their intransigent positions and thus push peace further away. Second, no pressure will cause me to concede the vital interests of the State of Israel, especially the security of Israel’s citizens.”
State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki released a statement on Sunday in response to the Israeli criticism, insisting that Kerry does not support an economic boycott of Israel.
“Secretary Kerry has a proud record of over three decades of steadfast support for Israel’s security and well-being, including staunch opposition to boycotts,” she said. “Just last year while briefing Foreign Ministers at an EU conference in Vilnius on peacemaking efforts, he urged them to refrain from these measures.”
“Secretary Kerry has always expected opposition and difficult moments in the process, but he also expects all parties to accurately portray his record and statements,” Psaki added.
At the conference, Kerry also said of the Israel-Palestinian conflict, “…today’s status quo absolutely, to a certainty, I promise you 100 percent, cannot be maintained. It’s not sustainable. It’s illusionary. There’s a momentary prosperity, there’s a momentary peace.”
While members of Likud and other right-wing parties reacted bitterly to Kerry’s remarks, the secretary of state received support from left-wing Israeli lawmakers. Member of Knesset Nachman Shai of the Labor party said, “Israel is facing an economic tsunami …. The boycotts against us have crossed the point of no return. This nightmare is coming true as we speak and this dense government refuses to see it.”
Zehava Gal-On who heads the left-wing party Meretz warned that Israel “might soon find itself isolated and ostracized, like Cuba and South Africa.”
The latest criticism of the secretary of state follows Israeli Defense Minister Moshe (Bogie) Ya’alon earlier this month being quoted by an Israeli newspaper calling Kerry “obsessed” and “messianic” in his quest to secure a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.
Kerry appeared to address that as well on Saturday. “I don’t think we’re being quixotic and un – I’m a little surprised by some of the articles that tend to write about an obsession or a fanatical effort to try to achieve this, et cetera,” Kerry said according to a State Department transcript. “We’re just working hard. We’re working hard because the consequences of failure are unacceptable.” Obama Plans To Force Israel To Accept A Palestinian State With Jerusalem As The Capital
TEL AVIV – Now that he has secured his second term, President Barack Obama has already secretly pledged to the Palestinians he will press Israel into a new round of so-called land-for-peace negotiations, a top Palestinian Authority negotiator told WND.
The negotiator said top members of the Obama administration told the Palestinians the U.S. president will renew talks aimed at creating a Palestinian state in the so-called 1967 borders – meaning in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and, notably, eastern Jerusalem.
The negotiator further revealed when it comes to dividing Jerusalem, Obama wants to rehash what is known as the Clinton parameters.
That formula, pushed by Bill Clinton during the Camp David talks in 2000, called for Jewish areas of Jerusalem to remain Israeli while the Palestinians will get sovereignty over neighborhoods that are largely Arab.
WND previously reported how Palestinians are building illegally in Jewish-owned areas of Jerusalem, changing facts on the ground and resulting in Arab majorities on certain neighborhoods.
This is not the first time the Palestinians are claiming Obama will push for new talks during a second term.
The negotiator further claimed Obama quietly pledged to the Palestinians a campaign at the United Nations to renew U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, which calls for a Palestinian state in the “1967 borders.”
The negotiator further said Obama had promised the PA that the establishment of a Palestinian state will be one of the main priorities for a second term.
“We were told that the negotiations for a Palestinian state will be a main goal for Obama,” said the negotiator. “Netanyahu will be declared the main person responsible for the collapse of the peace process.”
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Unconfirmed news reports out of Israel signal that an offer of US troops to secure the borders of a new Palestinian state is in the mix in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. US defense analysts urge caution.
The US troops would be tasked with helping to prevent anti-Israel forces from coming out of Jordan and reaching Israel, according to Debkafile, an Israeli intelligence and security news service.
TEL AVIV – Now that he has secured his second term, President Barack Obama has already secretly pledged to the Palestinians he will press Israel into a new round of so-called land-for-peace negotiations, a top Palestinian Authority negotiator told WND.
The negotiator further claimed Obama quietly pledged to the Palestinians a campaign at the United Nations to renew U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, which calls for a Palestinian state in the “1967 borders.”
The negotiator further said Obama had promised the PA that the establishment of a Palestinian state will be one of the main priorities for a second term.
“We were told that the negotiations for a Palestinian state will be a main goal for Obama,” said the negotiator. “Netanyahu will be declared the main person responsible for the collapse of the peace process.”
JERUSALEM (JTA) — Israel may try to assume more control over Jerusalem’s Temple Mount, a government minister told American Jewish leaders.
Naftali Bennett, the chairman of the Jewish Home party and the minister of Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs, on Monday told leaders of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations at the group’s annual meeting in Jerusalem that his office has taken steps to exercise greater Israeli sovereignty over eastern Jerusalem, Haaretz reported.
Among the steps, he said, is providing better services to the Arab residents of eastern Jerusalem.
In addressing the issue of the Temple Mount, Bennett reportedly said, “Unfortunately, the Temple Mount today doesn’t allow for the full exercise of freedom of religion, and there is discrimination against Jews there. But we have to be very careful when dealing with the Temple Mount because of the huge sensitivity of the site.”
The Temple Mount is under the control of the Islamic Wakf.
Bennett’s speech came a day after Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas told a group of visiting Israeli students that he would not be willing to share sovereignty over the Temple Mount but would allow Jews to worship at the Western Wall, one of Judaism’s holiest sites.
On Sunday, lawmakers in Jordan threatened to shut down the country’s embassy in Tel Aviv and expel Israel’s ambassador to Amman if Israeli lawmakers drafted a law to end the Wakf’s authority over Muslim and Christian holy places in Jerusalem, calling it a breach of the Jordan-Israel peace treaty.
A Knesset plenum debate on “the loss of Israeli sovereignty on the Temple Mount” is scheduled for Tuesday.
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH
LAST UPDATED: 02/16/2014 21:35
Knesset is set this week to discuss a proposal to place the Temple Mount under Israeli sovereignty.
A JEWISH man waves a flag with the Temple Mount in the background. Photo: REUTERS
The Palestinian Authority and Hamas warned Sunday of Israeli “plans” to impose Israeli sovereignty on the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem.
PA Minister for Religious Affairs Mahmoud al-Habbash said that there would be no sovereignty over the Aqsa Mosque and Islamic and Christian holy sites other than Palestinian sovereignty. “This is the full right of the Arab, including Muslims and Christians,” he said.
Al-Habbash claimed that Israel has plans to “divide” the Aqsa Mosque. “These efforts won’t succeed,” he added.
He was referring to routine visits by Jews to the Temple Mount and calls by some Israelis to impose Israeli sovereignty over the compound.
The PA minister said that only Muslims were entitled to pray at the holy site.
The Knesset is set to hold a plenary discussion on Tuesday to discuss a proposal by MK Moshe Feiglin (Likud) to place the Temple Mount under Israeli supervision.
Another top PA official was quoted as warning Israel against the consequences of “desecrating the holy sites in Jerusalem.” Israel, he charged, is “playing with fire.”
In the Gaza Strip, Hamas representative Yunis al-Astal accused Israel of plotting to “destroy” the Aqsa mosque in order to build the Third Temple.
The Hamas official criticized the PA minister al-Habbash for saying that Jews would be permitted to visit the Western Wall after an Israeli withdrawal from east Jerusalem.
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I put this in this thread for a couple of reasons;
1. To show that any Nation has the right to define itself on the basis of dominant or original ethno-racial and cultural/religious reasons. Not only that, but said nations are in fact obligated to do so if they desire their particular people or religious/cultural group to survive. This may annoy and butthurt the liberal multiculturalists and Leftists out there, but oh well. Which leads me to my second reason for posting this article here; look for Barack Obama's handlers to raise a stink about this new law
Anyway, here is the article, with particular points of interest emphasized by me;
Netanyahu’s ‘Jewish state’ law angers Arab Israelis
Ben Lynfield
Friday, 2 May 2014 Leaders of Israel’s Arab minority have reacted with fury to plans by the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to spearhead legislation defining Israel as “the nation state of the Jewish people”.
Arab Israelis say the law will pave the way for discrimination against them to be entrenched in law.
Liberal Israeli Jews are also warning that Mr Netanyahu’s announcement that his government intends to “provide a constitutional anchor for Israel’s status as the nation state of the Jewish people” is “undemocratic”.
Mr Netanyahu says that a Basic Law is necessary because enemies of Israel are trying to challenge the historical, legal and moral basis of the existence of Israel as a Jewish state.
Taleb al-Sanaa, a former MP, responded yesterday: “This initiative is very dangerous to democracy and pushes the Arab public beyond the borders of the state in a legal sense. It perpetuates the inferiority and marginalisation of the Arabs and is a sure prescription for confrontation. It represents a parting of the waters between the Arab public and the state of Israel.”
The Arab citizens of Israel, who number a fifth of the population, comprise Palestinians who remained behind when their compatriots were expelled or fled when Israel was established in 1948. They have the right to vote but regularly face discrimination from authorities. For example, while hundreds of new cities, towns and localities for Jews have been established since 1948, not a single new Arab town has been created. Traditionally Arab citizens have sought redress in Israel’s Supreme Court.
Yariv Levin, the coalition chairman from Mr Netanyahu’s Likud party, says that a Basic Law delineating the Jewishness of Israel is needed to “return Israel to the Zionist path” after years in which the Supreme Court issued rulings that went against Israel’s Jewish identity.
In a draft law Mr Levin prepared, Israel is delineated as the national home of the Jewish people and it is stated that the right of national self-determination in Israel is exclusive to the Jewish nation. Israel, it continues, is the Jewish people’s historic homeland, without mention being made of it as a historic homeland for its Arab citizens.
Jafar Farah, director of Mosawa, a non-governmental organisation that promotes equality for the Arab minority, predicts that legal discrimination will now become more pronounced. “This will mainstream racism and discrimination and marginalisation of the Arab community and give us the feeling that we are not only second-class citizens but a fifth column,” he said.
Galia Golan, a member of the dovish Meretz party, says “the implication is that everyone else is a second-class citizen. By implication you are excluding others when the whole basis of democracy is pluralism and equality. In that sense, it’s undemocratic.
“It amounts to sending a message to your minority, that was here to begin with, that they have no place here,” she added.
"God's an old hand at miracles, he brings us from nonexistence to life. And surely he will resurrect all human flesh on the last day in the twinkling of an eye. But who can comprehend this? For God is this: he creates the new and renews the old. Glory be to him in all things!" Archpriest Avvakum
I put this in this thread for a couple of reasons;
1. To show that any Nation has the right to define itself on the basis of dominant or original ethno-racial and cultural/religious reasons. Not only that, but said nations are in fact obligated to do so if they desire their particular people or religious/cultural group to survive. This may annoy and butthurt the liberal multiculturalists and Leftists out there, but oh well. Which leads me to my second reason for posting this article here; look for Barack Obama's handlers to raise a stink about this new law
Anyway, here is the article, with particular points of interest emphasized by me;
Netanyahu’s ‘Jewish state’ law angers Arab Israelis
Ben Lynfield
Friday, 2 May 2014 Leaders of Israel’s Arab minority have reacted with fury to plans by the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to spearhead legislation defining Israel as “the nation state of the Jewish people”.
Arab Israelis say the law will pave the way for discrimination against them to be entrenched in law.
Liberal Israeli Jews are also warning that Mr Netanyahu’s announcement that his government intends to “provide a constitutional anchor for Israel’s status as the nation state of the Jewish people” is “undemocratic”.
Mr Netanyahu says that a Basic Law is necessary because enemies of Israel are trying to challenge the historical, legal and moral basis of the existence of Israel as a Jewish state.
Taleb al-Sanaa, a former MP, responded yesterday: “This initiative is very dangerous to democracy and pushes the Arab public beyond the borders of the state in a legal sense. It perpetuates the inferiority and marginalisation of the Arabs and is a sure prescription for confrontation. It represents a parting of the waters between the Arab public and the state of Israel.”
The Arab citizens of Israel, who number a fifth of the population, comprise Palestinians who remained behind when their compatriots were expelled or fled when Israel was established in 1948. They have the right to vote but regularly face discrimination from authorities. For example, while hundreds of new cities, towns and localities for Jews have been established since 1948, not a single new Arab town has been created. Traditionally Arab citizens have sought redress in Israel’s Supreme Court.
Yariv Levin, the coalition chairman from Mr Netanyahu’s Likud party, says that a Basic Law delineating the Jewishness of Israel is needed to “return Israel to the Zionist path” after years in which the Supreme Court issued rulings that went against Israel’s Jewish identity.
In a draft law Mr Levin prepared, Israel is delineated as the national home of the Jewish people and it is stated that the right of national self-determination in Israel is exclusive to the Jewish nation. Israel, it continues, is the Jewish people’s historic homeland, without mention being made of it as a historic homeland for its Arab citizens.
Jafar Farah, director of Mosawa, a non-governmental organisation that promotes equality for the Arab minority, predicts that legal discrimination will now become more pronounced. “This will mainstream racism and discrimination and marginalisation of the Arab community and give us the feeling that we are not only second-class citizens but a fifth column,” he said.
Galia Golan, a member of the dovish Meretz party, says “the implication is that everyone else is a second-class citizen. By implication you are excluding others when the whole basis of democracy is pluralism and equality. In that sense, it’s undemocratic.
“It amounts to sending a message to your minority, that was here to begin with, that they have no place here,” she added.
Furthermore, if this basic law passes, it should give hope to Nationalists everywhere, worried about eroding National Sovereignty and a rising tide of multiculturalism making the very existence of separate Nations problematic, that it's possible to stem the tide with enough guts and intelligence, as when Israel expelled numerous sub-saharan African illegals camped out in Israel and living off of it's welfare system recently.
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US President Barack Obama spoke to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on the phone on Sunday, demanding an immediate and unconditional humanitarian ceasefire that would later lead to a permanent end to hostilities in Gaza based on the 2012 ceasefire agreement reached at the end of Operation Pillar of Defense.
The conversation between the two came at the end of a tense day for Israeli-American diplomatic relations.
Israeli officials slammed US Secretary of State John Kerry after a document allegedly presenting his ceasefire proposal was published by Haaretz.
The document, that was is supposed to serve as the basis of ceasefire negotiations between Hamas and Israel, reportedly made scarce reference to Israel's security needs.
The newspaper claimed that the draft banned Israel from destroying the terror tunnels that entered Israeli territory from Gaza during a proposed seven-day humanitarian ceasefire. Haaretz also said that Hamas' demands were all met in the draft, including opening of border crossings, passage of goods, and payment of civil servant salaries. However, there is no mention, Haaretz said, of Israel's central demand for the Gaza Strip to be demilitarized and the terror tunnels destroyed.
A senior American official claimed the reports on the content of the document were "inaccurate" and even "insulting" towards the United States.
"A part of these reports included personal attacks against Secretary of State Kerry, including accusations he betrayed the alliance with Israel," the official said.
Were you offended by the criticism in Israel? "There were a few reports regarding our efforts that weren't accurate and included distortions of Kerry's strategy. These were serious attacks with very insulting accusations including betrayal of Israel."
Who wrote the draft? "It was a product of conversations with a few of the involved parties. I can't elaborate on that."
What is the US position on the disarmament and rehabilitation of Gaza? "These are important issues for the ceasefire. It'll be a part of the negotiations following the ceasefire."
On Saturday night, an American official familiar with the ceasefire efforts in the region said that as far as Washington was concerned - Israel would have freedom to act as it sees fit following the ceasefire, at least as far as the destruction of the tunnels are concerned.
In his call with Netanyahu on Sunday night, Obama reaffirmed American support of the Egyptian ceasefire initiative.
The US president once again condemned Hamas' rocket fire, and reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself, while at the same time expressing Washington's growing concern of the rising number of Palestinian and Israeli casualties and the worsening humanitarian condition in Gaza.
"The President underscored the enduring importance of ensuring Israel’s security, protecting civilians, alleviating Gaza’s humanitarian crisis, and enacting a sustainable ceasefire that both allows Palestinians in Gaza to lead normal lives and addresses Gaza’s long-term development and economic needs, while strengthening the Palestinian Authority," a White House statement said.
"The President stressed the US view that, ultimately, any lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict must ensure the disarmament of terrorist groups and the demilitarization of Gaza," it went on to say.
Meanwhile, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas left for Saudi Arabia on Sunday night to meet with King Abdullah and the rest of the Saudi leadership, which expressed sweeping support of the original Egyptian offer.
Abbas is trying to form an Arab alliance that bypasses Hamas, Qatar and Turkey, and includes Saudi, Egypt and the PA.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama
The Obama administration is putting further pressure against Israel by showing that it is ready for a UN Security Council resolution about the creation of a Palestinian state.
The Wall Street Journal reported Washington left open the “possibility of letting the United Nations set a deadline for a Palestinian state.”
France is expected to introduce a measure setting a deadline for the establishment of a Palestinian state within two years, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Friday.
The US as a permanent member of the Security Council has repeatedly vetoed such resolutions during the past years.
However, White House press secretary Josh Earnest took a different tack on Friday.
Earnest said Washington was aware of Fabius’s comments, adding that “we have not yet actually seen a text of a resolution so I’d reserve comment on a hypothetical resolution.”
This is while White House officials have so far refused to elaborate on the Obama administration’s position.
Relations between President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have deteriorated over Tel Aviv’s settlement projects in the occupied Palestinian territories.
The United States has called on Israel to stop the illegal settlement projects. However, Tel Aviv has ignored the demand.
Israeli settlements are considered illegal by the UN and most countries because the territories were captured by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967, and are hence subject to the Geneva Conventions, which forbid construction on occupied lands.
Last month, US Secretary of State John Kerry criticized Israel for withholding Palestinians’ tax revenues due to their attempts to join the International Criminal Court.
The top US diplomat also warned of another crisis over the economic issue.
"If the Palestinian Authority ceases, or were to cease security cooperation, or even decide to disband as a result of their economic predicament, and that could happen in the future if they don't receive additional revenues, then we would be faced by yet another crisis," Kerry said.
In January, Israel blocked more than $100 million of tax revenues after the Palestinian Authority applied to join the International Criminal Court.
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Five Anti-Israel Offenses In Paris ‘Peace’ Summit Final Declaration
TEL AVIV – Instead of convening a summit on the ongoing civil war in Syria, or the migrant crisis threatening Europe, or the rampant anti-Semitism plaguing its own country, France on Sunday held a convention attended by over 70 nations to affirm the international community’s commitment to creating a Palestinian state.
At the end of the farcical display, and with neither Israel nor the Palestinian Authority in attendance, the Paris summit representatives released a brief concluding declaration unanimously agreed to after negotiations between the countries.
Reports here credited Israeli diplomats with helping to water down the anti-Israel language of the final declaration, calling the text a “significant weakening” and “less harsh than was initially expected.”
Still, the text was anything but fair. Here are five anti-Israel offenses in the 658-word final declaration:
1 – The text draws a moral equivalency between “violence,” which would include Palestinian terrorism targeting civilians, and “settlement activity,” meaning Israelis building homes in the West Bank or eastern sections of Jerusalem.
The text states:
They emphasized the importance for the parties to restate their commitment to this solution, to take urgent steps in order to reverse the current negative trends on the ground, including continued acts of violence and ongoing settlement activity, and to start meaningful direct negotiations.
2 – The declaration calls for Israel to “fully end the occupation that began in 1967,” language that seems to mean that Israel would need to withdraw from the entire West Bank and eastern Jerusalem and thus shrink the country to indefensible borders.
Those are the territories that Israel captured in the defensive war of 1967. Withdrawing “fully” would seem to imply that Israel should evacuate those territories in their entirety. Some of the holiest sites in Judaism are located in eastern Jerusalem and the West Bank, including the Western Wall and Temple Mount in Jerusalem’s Old City; the Cave of the Patriarchs and Matriarchs in Hebron, which was home to the oldest continuous Jewish community in the world until the Jews of Hebron were massacred and expelled; the Tomb of Rachel in Bethlehem; and Joseph’s Tomb in Nablus – biblical Shechem.
The diplomats who convened in Paris, however, seem unaware of the text of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which today’s declaration affirms as the basis of a future Israeli-Palestinian deal.
After stating that Israel should “fully end the occupation that began in 1967,” the Paris declaration then references Resolution 242.
The declaration states:
They reiterated that a negotiated two-state solution should meet the legitimate aspirations of both sides, including the Palestinians’ right to statehood and sovereignty, fully end the occupation that began in 1967, satisfy Israel’s security needs and resolve all permanent status issues on the basis of United Nations Security Council resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973), and also recalled relevant Security Council resolutions.
Resolution 242 calls on Israel to withdraw under a future final-status solution “from territories occupied” as a result of the 1967 Six Day War. The resolution does not call for a withdrawal from “all territories,” a designation deliberately left out to ensure Israel’s ability to retain some territory for security purposes under a future deal.
The Security Council did not say Israel must withdraw from “all the” territories occupied after the Six-Day War. This was quite deliberate. The Soviet delegate wanted the inclusion of those words and said that their exclusion meant “that part of these territories can remain in Israeli hands.” The Arab states pushed for the word “all” to be included, but this was rejected. They nevertheless asserted that they would read the resolution as if it included the word “all.” The British ambassador who drafted the approved resolution, Lord Caradon, declared after the vote: “It is only the resolution that will bind us, and we regard its wording as clear.”
3 – The declaration patronizes Israel by calling on both parties to “restate” their commitments to the two-state solution.
Only one side has not been committed to peace. Israel has offered the Palestinians a state in much of the West Bank and Gaza Strip with a shared capital in Jerusalem numerous times. These offers were made at Camp David in 2000, Taba in 2001, the Annapolis Conference in 2007, and more offers were made in 2008. In each of these cases, the PA refused generous Israeli offers of statehood and bolted negotiations without counteroffers.
The PA has failed to respond to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s unprecedented attempts to jump-start negotiations aimed at creating a Palestinian state, including freezing Jewish construction in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem and releasing Palestinian prisoners.
4 – The declaration gives credibility to the so-called Arab Peace Initiative, which threatens Israel’s security.
The declaration states: “They underscored the importance of the Arab Peace Initiative of 2002 as a comprehensive framework for the resolution of the Arab-Israeli conflict, thus contributing to regional peace and security,” states today’s declaration.
The Saudi Initiative, originally proposed by Saudi Arabia in 2002, states that Israel would receive “normal relations” with the Arab world in exchange for a full withdrawal from the entire Gaza Strip, West Bank, Golan Heights and eastern Jerusalem, which includes the Temple Mount. …
The Saudi plan also demands the imposition of a non-binding U.N. resolution that calls for so-called Palestinian refugees who wish to move inside Israel to be permitted to do so at the “earliest practicable date.”
Palestinians have long demanded the “right of return” for millions of “refugees,” a formula Israeli officials across the political spectrum warn is code for Israel’s destruction by flooding the Jewish state with millions of Arabs, thereby changing its demographics.
When Arab countries attacked the Jewish state after its creation in 1948, some 725,000 Arabs living within Israel’s borders fled or were expelled from the area that became Israel. Also at that time, about 820,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries or fled following rampant persecution.
While most Jewish refugees were absorbed by Israel and other countries, the majority of Palestinian Arabs have been maintained in 59 U.N.-run camps that do not seek to settle its inhabitants elsewhere.
There are currently about four million Arabs who claim Palestinian refugee status with the U.N., including children and grandchildren of the original fleeing Arabs; Arabs living full-time in Jordan; and Arabs who long ago emigrated throughout the Middle East and to the West.
According to Arab sources close to the Saudi Initiative, Arab countries are willing to come to an agreement whereby Israel absorbs about 500,000 “refugees” and reaches a compensation deal with the PA for the remaining millions of Palestinians.
5 – The Paris declaration “welcomed” UN Security Council Resolution 2334, which passed last month when the U.S. abstained and refers to the entire West Bank and eastern Jerusalem as so-called occupied Palestinian territories while demanding a complete halt to all Israeli construction in those areas. Aaron Klein is Breitbart’s Jerusalem bureau chief and senior investigative reporter. He is a New York Times bestselling author and hosts the popular weekend talk radio program, “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio.” Follow him on Twitter @AaronKleinShow. Follow him on Facebook.[/QUOTE]
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