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    Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
    It's not just an alleged Russian Communist party official's prediction that Obama would be elected, it's Obama's actions once he got into power and the puzzle pieces that continue to emerge from Obama every single day since that gives Tom's story more credibility.
    You're right.

    It's also an opportunistic author with a BS story.



    This entire thing would be like me saying, "I remember back in 1989, I sat with OBL, and he told he was gonna level the Trade Center. Will you buy my book?"

    I'm not saying Zero isn't a Commie plant.

    What I am saying is:

    1. The author's story is BS.

    2. It is BS that an "agitated" KGB agent would spill the beans to a computer specialist about an operation of this scope and importance.

    I'm not buying any of it.

    This would be a good exercise in search abilities.

    And since you folks purport it may be true, how about proving it - to the best of your abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backstop View Post
    You're right.

    It's also an opportunistic author with a BS story.



    This entire thing would be like me saying, "I remember back in 1989, I sat with OBL, and he told he was gonna level the Trade Center. Will you buy my book?"

    I'm not saying Zero isn't a Commie plant.

    What I am saying is:

    1. The author's story is BS.

    2. It is BS that an "agitated" KGB agent would spill the beans to a computer specialist about an operation of this scope and importance.

    I'm not buying any of it.

    This would be a good exercise in search abilities.

    And since you folks purport it may be true, how about proving it - to the best of your abilities.
    Proving it true is all I've been asking. Perhaps not quite as bluntly as Backstop but in effect, if you make an accusation, you better be able to back it up.

    It's not difficult to find MANY THINGS O has done to verify he's a socialist. But a commie? Especially one put in PLACE by the Russians? No.
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    I'll tell you why I disagree. Let's face it, most people on Earth believe that Communism collapsed and is dead, as of about 1989-91. Dead Movements don't conspire. Anybody like Tom Fife who says any different and relates a story isolated from other evidence is going to be labeled a fruitcake by even the thinking fraction of mankind, for the most part. I'd leak such a story out, if I was a communist strategist, to test the reaction, if any, of the public to there being a communist conspiracy around the Presidency. If so, Fife was probably expected to tell his story sooner and not sit on it. As it stands now, the story is pretty useless, because some few were and/or are convinced of such a conspiracy around Barack Obama anyway now, while the majority of people havn't a clue-in spite of some disagreement with particular policies, most see him as just another liberal democrat like Hillary Clinton or Harry Reid, not a Commie like Fidel or Mao.
    OK, you've explained your position further, and I understand better.

    But I still whole heartedly disagree with your premise of leaking the facts - for whatever effect and reason.

    That would be absolutely, irresponsibly, and outrageously dangerous.

    If you want something to hide in plain site until you're ready to turn the spotlight on it, you don't turn the light on it and say, "So whaddya think about this?"


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    Let me HELP you guys, since you refuse to do it.....



    The First Time I
    Heard Of Barack

    By Tom Fife
    11-20-8

    During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

    V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

    One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

    As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

    The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

    "You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."

    The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.

    "Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."

    The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.

    "What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

    The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

    It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

    "Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."

    She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

    We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

    She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

    She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

    At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

    Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."

    She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.

    So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

    Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

    Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.



    Tom Fife
    Take a WILD guess where that came from.... No, never mind, I won't make you think this hard.

    It was from: http://www.rense.com/general84/brck.htm

    Now.... I can go and place something in archives here, change the date, change the file types any way I wish, and even redate the file itself as having been created in 2005. I didn't come to this site until 2006, this month in fact.

    Would I be lying? Yes. Would computer forensics prove it? Most likely. Who'd have access to do that? Me. Would I LET you? No. lol

    Here's another piece of data:

    Global Elite Picked Obama Long Before Voters
    Man recounts startling tale of first time he heard of Barack Obama—18 years ago in Russia
    By Tom Fife
    During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid-1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow in the process of starting a software development, joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community.

    One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M. V. was a levelheaded scientist, while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing communist cause.

    Early in 1992, the American half of our venture was invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge—one her husband tried to quietly rein in.



    The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

    “You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice president and you didn’t do it.”

    The general response went along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice president, but the president and vice president as a ticket.

    “Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon,” she said. The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the
    right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she, black or not.

    “What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a communist?” she said. “Well, you will; and he will be a communist.”

    One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”

    “Yes, it is true,” she replied. “This is not some idle talk. He is already born, and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of presidents. He is what you call ‘Ivy League.’ You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be president.”

    She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly—as though all were foregone conclusions.

    “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black, so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”

    She was obviously happy that the communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: They would give us a black president and he’d be a communist to boot. She made it obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world communism. She always asserted that communism was far from dead. She was full of details about him that she was eager to relate.

    She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”

    Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I commented: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She
    replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African,’’’ she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world communism. We will regain our strength and become the No. 1 power in the world.”

    She said something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for communism. America would have to be converted to communism, and Barack was going to pave the way.

    So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove? Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is important. It shows that Soviet Russian communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed communist to pave the way for their future.

    This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed. Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30-plus years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

    Who is Tom Fife?

    Tom Fife was a government contractor with an active security clearance who took notes on his trips for Defense Intelligence Agency debriefings within the Department of Defense. In 1992, following an astounding conversation at a dinner party in Moscow, he took down notes for future reference. It was long before the world ever heard the name “Barack Obama.”

    Students of revisionist history will remember that Bill Clinton disappeared from Oxford University in England for a while in 1970 and surfaced in Moscow (courtesy of the CIA) purportedly to be trained in communism. When the accompanying story first appeared, we could not locate its source for confirmation and cast it off as a probable Internet fairy tale. But we have since interviewed Tom Fife, blended the information with the many accusations of high-profile politicos (such as former UN Ambassador Alan Keyes) and witnessed the communistic behavior of the White House occupant, and we have no of doubt the authenticity of this amazing piece. —Ed.
    (Issue # 12, March 23, 2009)
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    Ok, boys and girls.... this Tom Fife guy. Who is he REALLY anyway? His stuff appears on Rense and Canada Freepress... not precisely the most creditable sites on the planet, right?

    I dunno who the guy is for sure.... but I did find this tidbit....

    Home
    Articles
    Consulting
    Programs
    Meet Tom
    Contact Tom



    Programs dedicated to Humanizing the workplace, cultivating leadership, encouraging teamwork and motivating our human workforce.

    How Can I help?



    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



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    This kinda looks like the original, and is dated 20 Nov 2008: http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-first-time-i-heard-of-barack-by-tom-fife/#more-4557

    On this link, there's a few links of supposed interviews with Fife: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1099672/pg1
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    Oh really...?

    In one post he calls the man "V" and calls him "M" in the other.


    http://www.americantownmeeting.com/ShowThread.php?Thread=2&Forum=-1&Topic=4&Offset=0&Count=25

    Posted: 2009-02-11 01:30:02

    This is Tom Fife

    Background: I have a degree in Physics and have worked primarily in aerospace and software development. In 1991 I became involved with an Englishman who was performing relief efforts into the collapsing Soviet Union. These efforts were performed through Orthodox churches in Britain and the US plus some churches in Germany. Money was raised from all over and sent to Germany to purchase the goods, which were then trucked into Moscow to be distributed by the Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church.While doing all of this, I met many talented people in the Russian Academy of Science and eventually formed a Joint-Venture with some to develop sophisticated software.Dr. M. headed the Russian side. He had a wife whom people told me was a staunch Communist. It is my understanding that she was one of the party officials that worked in a company to be the contact point and keep a party eye on things. She was degreed in her own right and was a solid right hand to her husband.Why did she get so loose-tongued? I am not sure, but there were traditional Russian toasts being delivered through the evening and each of those were punctuated by a shot of very cold vodka. Also, there were some remarks made by an American in our group concerning his observations of the racial make up of the Russian people. This visibly irritated her, and I believe that was the emotional trigger for her to want to predict a racial comeuppance for the white America to which we were returning.Why didn’t I publish the story upon my return in 1992? At that point it was talk. It was very disturbing talk, but I had a life that I was living and that kept me busy while I wasn’t sure how I could every attempt to track down this mystery man she mentioned. In the end, he never left my mind really, but I didn’t ruminate on it, either. I did mention this to my son upon my return and it was because of that that he is my most solid defender. He remembers me warning him in 1992 to beware of a mulatto guy running for president with such and such laundry list of attributes.
    Sorry - there were no paragraphs in the original...so it shall stand.
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    So he didn't know Obama from a bucket o' poo....
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    Wouldn't that be the shit if Fife's article was true?

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    I thought of something that just might convince me Fife's story is factual.

    Proof that female KGB agent was murdered.

    Litvinenko knows something of this.

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    This may be the most current interview with Fife:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYLArgS8hQ

    It's almost an hour long - I haven't listened to it.

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    Soviet Acknowledged Obama One of Them

    National Writers Syndicate ^ | 10/31/2008 | Tom Fife
    Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:15:25 PM by thefife

    The First Time I Heard of Barack


    During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

    One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

    As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

    The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

    "You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."

    The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.

    "Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."

    The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.

    "What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

    The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

    It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

    "Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."

    She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma.

    He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

    We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

    She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

    She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

    At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

    Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."

    She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.

    So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

    Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

    Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

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    OK...so thefife posted this info on FR 2.5 years ago.

    My post is #73 in that FR thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backstop View Post
    You're right.

    It's also an opportunistic author with a BS story.



    This entire thing would be like me saying, "I remember back in 1989, I sat with OBL, and he told he was gonna level the Trade Center. Will you buy my book?"

    I'm not saying Zero isn't a Commie plant.

    What I am saying is:

    1. The author's story is BS.

    2. It is BS that an "agitated" KGB agent would spill the beans to a computer specialist about an operation of this scope and importance.

    I'm not buying any of it.

    This would be a good exercise in search abilities.

    And since you folks purport it may be true, how about proving it - to the best of your abilities.
    I've said this before and I guess bears repeating again, this IS rumor information and why it's in the Skeptics' Corner.

    I would not bet my life on it. Take it for what it's worth or not in some opinions.


    You can make the same argument against some of the more notable communist defector over the past 20 years discrediting many of their warnings.

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    You can make the same argument against some of the more notable communist defector over the past 20 years discrediting many of their warnings.
    Those situations are entirely different.

    In 1961, Golitsyn defected, and in great detail, laid out an outrageous plan. Now here we are in 2011, and find many steps of his plan have materialized.

    Fife on the other hand, steps up in 2008 and tells us in 1992 a KGB agent told him of this plan to put a Commie in the White House.

    You're absolutely right though; this is in the Skeptic's Corner for a reason.

    I did a fair amount of searching yesterday, and there appears to be some variations in Fife's story. Not much, but a bit.

    Regardless, I'm content to let this lie.

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    I saw Beck discussing this asshole on his show yesterday.

    I really should be surprised but, at this point I'm not anymore.
    They weren't just left-wing radicals, or Cuban trained...

    WEATHERMAN [FBI report: Ayers group trained by KGB!]

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    Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:00:43 PM by Eye On The Left


    FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow.

    Weatherman [Weather Underground] leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training.

    There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare.

    Obama’s Political Career Launched By Terrorist William Ayers

    Many have been digging into Barrack The Hussein Obama’s past ties to domestic terrorist William Ayers, who admitted to bombing the Pentagon in the 1970′s. Most of these Investigative Journalists have run into brick walls or strong armed resistance by those who seek to keep Obama’s relationship with Ayers silent. One such author, Stanley Kurtz, has been targeted by the Obama campaign for destruction for his investigation into the relationship.
    The One’s campaign has also vigorously sought to silence an ad tying him to William Ayers, and threatened the organization that put the ad together with criminal charges by asking the Justice Department to investigate every person involved with the group and their financial records turned over to the IRS.

    Where there is smoke, there is fire – and Obama has worked very hard to make sure these ties have been wiped clean so the American people do not find out who launched his political career.

    As I’ve said before – Obama is a Trojan Horse.

    Now the puzzle is being pieced together and perhaps the first one to get a glimpse of the real disturbing picture is Andy Martin at the Contrarian Commentary.

    WILLIAM AYERS HAS BEEN THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THE RISE OF BARACK OBAMA

    AYERS HAS DESIGNED AN OBAMA CAMPAIGN STRUCTURE WHICH IS BASED ON AYERS’ THEORIES OF MAOIST REVOLUTION.

    THE CHICAGO VERSION OF “FRIENDS”

    OBAMA LIED TO ABC NEWS AND A NATIONAL TV AUDIENCE
    (NEW YORK, NY)(September 9, 2008) Nailing down the relationship between “mad bomber” William Ayers and Barack Obama has been the greatest challenge of the 2008 presidential campaign.

    The second biggest challenge of 2008 has been deciphering and understanding Barack Obama’s campaign structure. His campaign is unlike any other presidential campaign in U. S. history. Obama’s operation is authoritarian, disciplined and centralized in Chicago. Obama’s reliance on a nationwide network of local “offices” and mailing lists points inexorably to a political latticework straight out of William Ayers’ revolutionary playbook.

    The bottom line: After an exhaustive investigation ContrarianCommentary.com can confirm that Barack Obama appears to be William Ayers’ “front” for a national, ongoing Maoist-style revolutionary campaign structure which will endure past November 4th.

    Ironically, as we searched for the Ayers-Obama relationship in the present, it was staring us in the face: Obama’s campaign is structured precisely the way Ayers would want. That is why Obama has created “Camp Obamas” across the United States to indoctrinate workers, and adopted other similar Fidel Castro/Hugo Chavez tactics.

    The puzzle pieces are finally starting to fall into place. Last week we asked why would Black Panther party revolutionary Khalid Al-Mansour start soliciting money for Obama’s legal education? The answer: Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, were close associates of the Black Panther Party and even unleashed a terrorist attack on a New York judge who heard a Panther case.

    In the 1980′s, the Ayers/Dohrn revolutionary terror network was still working through individuals such as Al-Mansour, who had sufficiently laundered his radical past to assume respectability as a front for a Saudi Prince. The same way Ayers laundered his own past to become a professor of “education” at Illinois’ taxpayer-subsidized university.

    Ayers and Al-Mansour appear to have been in contact. Ayers vouched for
    Obama to Al-Mansour, who then began a law school fund-raising campaign among prominent African-Americans.

    Obama’s law degree thus appears to have been financed through the encouragement of persons who had been violent revolutionaries and remain unrepentant to this day, the same unconventional way the purchase of Obama’s Chicago mansion was party financed by an Iraqi billionaire.

    Why did Obama get hired as a “summer associate” in 1989 at the law firm which had hired Ayers’ wife, and where Ayers’ father was a prominent friend of the managing partner at Sidley & Austin? The answer is obvious. Ayers was grooming Obama as his future “front.”

    Where did Obama get his first and only legal job after Harvard? At a law firm where Tony Rezko was a prominent client and where name partner Judson Miner was a law school classmate of Bernadine Dohrn-Ayers. Yes, the pieces are starting to come together.

    Was Obama telling ABC the truth when he said met the Ayers’ at a coffee klatch at the Ayers home in 1995? Ayers had already been working with Obama for seven years; Ayers had appointed Obama to head a $50 million foundation.

    Did Ayers appoint a stranger? Or a front man? The answer is obvious.

    Obama has relentlessly tried to conceal the Ayers/Obama time line, and the ongoing connections between the men. When bits and pieces of the Ayers/Obama relationship have popped up this year, Obama has sought to debunk and deflate each isolated piece of information. No one was able to grasp the big picture.

    Until today, no one had actually connected all of the dots.

    ContrarianCommentary.com is the first to do so.

    We always wondered why Obama had structured his campaign the way he did: small “offices” all across the United States. No other presidential campaign has ever done this. Bill Ayers is a proponent of locally based revolutionary tactics.

    Ayers’ playbook is Mao Tse-Tung’s handbook. And Obama’s campaign structure follows Ayers’ matrix. A nationwide network of “Camp Obamas” controlled from Chicago (i.e. Ayers)? You get the picture.

    Obama is not stupid. He is a bright man, very talented, very personable and, until recently, a man without much of a personal history. But there is a shiftless, searching side to Obama’s personality. Due to childhood neglect and abuse, he is a man without a conscience. He was and remains the perfect front for Ayers’ ongoing revolutionary campaign to subvert and subdue the United States of America.

    It can be said without fear of contradiction, a vote for Barack Obama is in reality a vote to put William Ayers in de facto control of the U. S government.

    William Ayers is an admittedly unrepentant violent revolutionary who waged war against every American and who today is still scheming to wage war against the United States. This time he wants his headquarters to be in the Oval Office of the White House.

    William Ayers is the mastermind behind the rise to power of Barack Obama. He has been since 1988.

    ANDY MARTIN WILL EXPLORE THIS CLAIMS IN A NEW YORK CITY NEWS CONFERENCE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH (TBA).
    ———————————————–
    THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 1.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)
    1987 William Ayers meets Barack Obama
    1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
    1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
    1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
    1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
    1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
    2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
    2008Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie.

    ObamaAyers

    CNN exposes Obama/Ayers
    Notice the $100+million Obama funneled to Ayers, Ayers' wife and Rev. Wright





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    Folks should check out this link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006617/posts

    vector has it in his post above, but Eye On The Left has a metric ton more info in that thread.

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    Help me out here.

    The following quote was found on this page:

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

    There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare.
    I read all 70 pages of the document where that supposedly came from, and didn't find anything.

    http://foia2.fbi.gov/weather/weath2a.pdf

    I read quickly, and for some reason I can't use the search function.

    It would be appreciated it someone could find a supporting statement.

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    Pissing me off - still can't get the search to work for that PDF.



    Edit: appears it was saved in a format (possibly a scanned image) and searching is not an option.
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    The Real Story of the Weathermen (Communist Cuba Trained and Supported Ayers and Others)

    YouTube ^ | Thursday, October 23, 2008

    Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:42:19 PM by kristinn

    An almost ten minute excerpt from a 1982 Canadian Broadcasting Corp. documentary on the KGB. The posted section focuses on Communist Cuba's involvement in training, funding and giving orders to the Weathermen.

    Much of the info comes from an interview with Larry Grathwohl, who is in the film No Place to Hide.

    The CBC documentary ties the Weathermen, the Cuban government and a French-Canadian seperatist group,the FLQ.

    The documentary also features an interview with an unnamed Cuban and an unnamed figure involved with the FLQ and a 1965 plot by balck radicals to bomb the Statue of Liberty.

    The video was just posted today.

    Grathwald says Ayers told him to go to Cuban embassy in Canada or Mexico to reconnect with Weathermen if they lost contact with the group.


    WEATHERMAN [FBI report: Ayers group trained by KGB!]

    DiscoverTheNetworks (a David Horowitz site) ^
    Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:00:43 PM
    by Eye On The Left

    FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow.

    Weatherman [Weather Underground] leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training.

    There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare.


    Laura Whitehorn

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    Laura Jane Whitehorn

    Laura Whitehorn in 2009.
    Born April 1945 (1945-04)
    Brooklyn, New York, USA
    Charge(s) Conspiracy; destruction of government property; fraud
    Penalty 20 years in prison
    Status Released
    Occupation Senior Editor, POZ Magazine; guest speaker on college campuses
    Parents Lenore and Nathaniel Whitehorn
    Laura Jane Whitehorn was born in April 1945 to Lenore and Nathaniel Whitehorn of Brooklyn, New York. As a college student in the 1960s, she organized and participated in civil rights and anti-war movements.[1] as well as involvement in a series of revolutionary bombings and armed robberies. After her graduation from Radcliffe College in 1966, she went on to receive her master’s from Brandeis University.[2]
    [edit] The early days

    Having worked as an organizer for Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), Whitehorn became a member of the Weathermen/The Weather Underground organization in 1969.[citation needed] She traveled with them to Havana, Cuba as part of the organization’s instruction in the ideology of Marxism and urban warfare, visiting one of the camps established by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine.[3]


    http://www.whatcomuncovered.com/uplo...ames_Dohrn.pdf

    THE WEATHERMEN (will Bill Clinton's pardons come back to haunt Hillary?)

    discoverthenetworks.org ^ | 4-2008

    Posted on 04/14/2008 2:13:46 PM PDT by doug from upland


    NOTE: Hillary may have a problem using Barack Obama's connection to William Ayers and the Weather Underground.

    In 1985, former Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg (who also was implicated in the Nyack robbery) and Linda Evans were apprehended while transporting 740 pounds of explosives which they both acknowledged were slated for use in additional bombings. Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years in prison, Evans 40; President Bill Clinton pardoned both women in January 2001.

    ================================================== ==================

    WEATHERMAN

    * Declared "war on Amerikkka"at its Flint War Council in 1969
    * Responsible for the deaths of police officers and the wanton destruction of public property
    * Some former members are now comfortably ensconced in University professorships

    Weatherman (known colloquially as The Weathermen) was a political faction elected in 1968 to lead the radical group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). The organization took its name from a line in the Bob Dylan song Subterranean Homesick Blues ("You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"). Emerging in 1969 as the most militant wing of the SDS's Revolutionary Youth Movement, the fledgling Weatherman issued a "manifesto" eschewing nonviolence and calling instead for armed opposition to U.S. policies; advocating the overthrow of capitalism; exhorting white radicals to trigger a worldwide revolution by fighting in the streets of the "mother country"; and proclaiming that the time had come to launch a race war against the "white" United States on behalf of the non-white Third World.

    Grounded in identity politics, Weatherman ideology and rhetoric rebelled against what later came to be known as America's "white skin privilege." Weatherman opposed the strategy of a rival SDS faction, Progressive Labor, which rejected the sexual and chemical excesses of the counter-cultural movements of the 1960s in favor of a purer, Marxist-Leninist popular front movement aimed at developing student-labor alliances.

    FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow.

    Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare.

    At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Weatherman leader Bernardine Dohrn (currently a law professor at Northwestern University and a Board member of the ACLU) praised the serial murderer Charles Manson and his accomplices: "Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach. Wild." She then proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against "Amerikkka" (Weatherman always spelled "America" this way, to convey the group's belief that the nation was ineradicably racist to its core). Toward this end, Dohrn advocated the formation of an even more radical "Weather Underground" cult to carry out covert terrorist activities rather than public acts of protest. By early 1970, her wish would be realized.

    Weatherman's first public demonstration was its October 1969 "Days of Rage" protest in Chicago, timed to coincide with the trials of the Chicago Seven (a group of radical leftists led by Tom Hayden), who had fomented a riot at the Democratic Party nominating convention in that city the previous year. Advertised with the slogan "Bring the war home," "Days of Rage" sought to create enough chaos to shock the American public out of its alleged complacency vis a vis the Vietnam War.

    The opening "Days of Rage" salvo, designed to glorify the anarchist movement, was the October 8 demolition of a statue dedicated to the memory of eight policemen who had been killed in the Haymarket Labor Riot of 1886. Thereafter, some 300 people -- both members and supporters of the Weatherman agenda -- ravaged Chicago's business district, smashing windows and destroying automobiles. Six people were shot and seventy were arrested. The violence continued, though on a smaller scale, for each of the next two nights. As Sixties historian Todd Gitlin observed, however, no popular uprising was sparked by these events, much to the group's dismay. Notable "Days of Rage" leaders included Bill Ayers, now a Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, and Mark William Rudd, currently a mathematics professor at a New Mexico community college.

    Weatherman was further radicalized by the December 1969 shooting death of Black Panther leader Fred Hampton by Chicago police. Hampton was a street thug who, in his much-heralded "morning education" programs, taught black youths that violent opposition to the U.S. government was a worthy goal. He was quoted in a 1969 Chicago Sun-Times article as saying, "I am at war with the pigs," and forecasting an armed struggle between blacks and whites. He routinely carried weapons and instructed his subordinates to do the same. For Weatherman, Hampton's death provided one more excuse to pursue a revolutionary agenda. In March 1970 the organization issued a "Declaration of a State of War" against the United States government, using for the first time its new name, the "Weather Underground Organization" (WUO), adopting fake identities, and pledging to pursue covert activities only.

    Shortly after that Declaration, three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey -- an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed.

    The Weather Underground went on to claim credit for some 25 bombings over the next several years, detonating explosives at the rebuilt Haymarket statue, a bathroom at the Pentagon, the Capitol barber shop, the New York City police headquarters, and a variety of other targets.

    The Weather Underground also (for a fee of $25,000) helped psychedelic drug guru Timothy Leary break out of a California prison and arranged for his transport to Algiers. When Leary was re-arrested in 1974, he cooperated in the FBI investigation of WUO in exchange for a lighter sentence.

    By the time the U.S. withdrew its military forces from Vietnam in 1975, the Weather Underground was clearly losing vitality as an organization, having failed to invigorate a new radical movement in the U.S. or to inspire an all-out war against the government. In the wake of President Jimmy Carter's amnesty for draft dodgers, members of the group began to emerge from hiding. Many were never prosecuted; others had their convictions overturned. Some, like Rudd, Dohrn, and Ayers, claimed places for themselves in academia, while others attempted to return to the mainstream.

    On October 20, 1981 -- long after the Weather Underground had ceased to exist -- former Underground member Kathy Boudin and her soon-to-be husband, David Gilbert, were accomplices in the robbery of a Brinks armored car in Nyack, New York. In the course of that heist, one Brinks guard and two Nyack police officers were murdered. Also involved in the robbery was Judith Clark, who had served a prison term for her participation in the "Days of Rage." Boudin hired attorney Leonard Weinglass, a law partner of her father, to defend her in the case. Weinglass arranged for a plea bargain whereby Boudin pled guilty to one count of felony murder and robbery, in exchange for a prison sentence of twenty years to life. She was paroled in 2003, however, over strong opposition from New York State police. Gilbert remains in New York's Attica State Prison, having refused to bargain.

    In 1985, former Weather Underground members Susan Rosenberg (who also was implicated in the Nyack robbery) and Linda Evans were apprehended while transporting 740 pounds of explosives which they both acknowledged were slated for use in additional bombings. Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years in prison, Evans 40; President Bill Clinton pardoned both women in January 2001.


    Some have said that Bill Ayers is more than just an acquaintance of Obama and has been in contact with him while in the White House and is rumored to have closer ties. Bill Ayers claims to have ghost wrote Obama’s book Dreams of My Father.

    Larry Grathwohl an FBI undercover agent exposed what Bill Ayers and the Weathermen Underground intended to do after overthrowing government as we know it and allow both Russia, China and their allies to occupy parts of the United States. Their looming concern was how to deal with the Americans who refuse to embrace their version of government. Here is the video clip outlining this. [/SIZE][/B]




    Obama’s Political Career Launched By Terrorist William Ayers

    Many have been digging into Barrack The Hussein Obama’s past ties to domestic terrorist William Ayers, who admitted to bombing the Pentagon in the 1970′s. Most of these Investigative Journalists have run into brick walls or strong armed resistance by those who seek to keep Obama’s relationship with Ayers silent. One such author, Stanley Kurtz, has been targeted by the Obama campaign for destruction for his investigation into the relationship.

    The One’s campaign has also vigorously sought to silence an ad tying him to William Ayers, and threatened the organization that put the ad together with criminal charges by asking the Justice Department to investigate every person involved with the group and their financial records turned over to the IRS.

    Where there is smoke, there is fire – and Obama has worked very hard to make sure these ties have been wiped clean so the American people do not find out who launched his political career.

    As I’ve said before – Obama is a Trojan Horse.

    Now the puzzle is being pieced together and perhaps the first one to get a glimpse of the real disturbing picture is Andy Martin at the Contrarian Commentary.

    WILLIAM AYERS HAS BEEN THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THE RISE OF BARACK OBAMA

    AYERS HAS DESIGNED AN OBAMA CAMPAIGN STRUCTURE WHICH IS BASED ON AYERS’ THEORIES OF MAOIST REVOLUTION.

    THE CHICAGO VERSION OF “FRIENDS”

    OBAMA LIED TO ABC NEWS AND A NATIONAL TV AUDIENCE
    (NEW YORK, NY)(September 9, 2008 ) Nailing down the relationship between “mad bomber” William Ayers and Barack Obama has been the greatest challenge of the 2008 presidential campaign.

    The second biggest challenge of 2008 has been deciphering and understanding Barack Obama’s campaign structure. His campaign is unlike any other presidential campaign in U. S. history. Obama’s operation is authoritarian, disciplined and centralized in Chicago. Obama’s reliance on a nationwide network of local “offices” and mailing lists points inexorably to a political latticework straight out of William Ayers’ revolutionary playbook.

    The bottom line: After an exhaustive investigation ContrarianCommentary.com can confirm that Barack Obama appears to be William Ayers’ “front” for a national, ongoing Maoist-style revolutionary campaign structure which will endure past November 4th.

    Ironically, as we searched for the Ayers-Obama relationship in the present, it was staring us in the face: Obama’s campaign is structured precisely the way Ayers would want. That is why Obama has created “Camp Obamas” across the United States to indoctrinate workers, and adopted other similar Fidel Castro/Hugo Chavez tactics.

    The puzzle pieces are finally starting to fall into place. Last week we asked why would Black Panther party revolutionary Khalid Al-Mansour start soliciting money for Obama’s legal education? The answer: Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, were close associates of the Black Panther Party and even unleashed a terrorist attack on a New York judge who heard a Panther case.

    In the 1980′s, the Ayers/Dohrn revolutionary terror network was still working through individuals such as Al-Mansour, who had sufficiently laundered his radical past to assume respectability as a front for a Saudi Prince. The same way Ayers laundered his own past to become a professor of “education” at Illinois’ taxpayer-subsidized university.

    Ayers and Al-Mansour appear to have been in contact. Ayers vouched for
    Obama to Al-Mansour, who then began a law school fund-raising campaign among prominent African-Americans.

    Obama’s law degree thus appears to have been financed through the encouragement of persons who had been violent revolutionaries and remain unrepentant to this day, the same unconventional way the purchase of Obama’s Chicago mansion was party financed by an Iraqi billionaire.

    Why did Obama get hired as a “summer associate” in 1989 at the law firm which had hired Ayers’ wife, and where Ayers’ father was a prominent friend of the managing partner at Sidley & Austin? The answer is obvious. Ayers was grooming Obama as his future “front.”

    Where did Obama get his first and only legal job after Harvard? At a law firm where Tony Rezko was a prominent client and where name partner Judson Miner was a law school classmate of Bernadine Dohrn-Ayers. Yes, the pieces are starting to come together.

    Was Obama telling ABC the truth when he said met the Ayers’ at a coffee klatch at the Ayers home in 1995? Ayers had already been working with Obama for seven years; Ayers had appointed Obama to head a $50 million foundation.

    Did Ayers appoint a stranger? Or a front man? The answer is obvious.

    Obama has relentlessly tried to conceal the Ayers/Obama time line, and the ongoing connections between the men. When bits and pieces of the Ayers/Obama relationship have popped up this year, Obama has sought to debunk and deflate each isolated piece of information. No one was able to grasp the big picture.

    Until today, no one had actually connected all of the dots.

    ContrarianCommentary.com is the first to do so.

    We always wondered why Obama had structured his campaign the way he did: small “offices” all across the United States. No other presidential campaign has ever done this. Bill Ayers is a proponent of locally based revolutionary tactics.

    Ayers’ playbook is Mao Tse-Tung’s handbook. And Obama’s campaign structure follows Ayers’ matrix. A nationwide network of “Camp Obamas” controlled from Chicago (i.e. Ayers)? You get the picture.

    Obama is not stupid. He is a bright man, very talented, very personable and, until recently, a man without much of a personal history. But there is a shiftless, searching side to Obama’s personality. Due to childhood neglect and abuse, he is a man without a conscience. He was and remains the perfect front for Ayers’ ongoing revolutionary campaign to subvert and subdue the United States of America.

    It can be said without fear of contradiction, a vote for Barack Obama is in reality a vote to put William Ayers in de facto control of the U. S government.

    William Ayers is an admittedly unrepentant violent revolutionary who waged war against every American and who today is still scheming to wage war against the United States. This time he wants his headquarters to be in the Oval Office of the White House.

    William Ayers is the mastermind behind the rise to power of Barack Obama. He has been since 1988.

    ANDY MARTIN WILL EXPLORE THIS CLAIMS IN A NEW YORK CITY NEWS CONFERENCE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH (TBA).
    ———————————————–
    THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 1.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)
    1987 William Ayers meets Barack Obama
    1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
    1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
    1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
    1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
    1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
    2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
    2008Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie.

    ObamaAyers

    CNN exposes Obama/Ayers
    Notice the $100+million Obama funneled to Ayers, Ayers' wife and Rev. Wright



    Terrorist Mark Rudd’s Warning on the Destruction of America’s Defenses

    Apr 14th, 2011 by TMH

    By: Trevor Loudon
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    President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies are using U.S. economic problems (which they partially created) to sell Americans on the need to cut defense spending.

    This is what America’s enemies have wanted for decades. If America can be disarmed, Russia, China, Cuba and Iran will face little or no opposition to their plans for world domination.

    More than two years ago, Cuban trained, former Weather Underground terrorist Mark Rudd, warned us that Obama’s game plan would be to exploit economic crises to push for defense cuts.


    Mark Rudd, 1968

    Rudd, an unrepentant Marxist to this day, works closely with at least three people who have been close to Obama in the recent past – Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn and Carl Davidson. He is in a unique position to understand Obama’s long term strategy.

    Mark Rudd wrote this analysis just after the 2008 elections:

    Obama is a very strategic thinker. He knew precisely what it would take to get elected and didn’t blow it. He used community organizing methods to mobilize a base consisting of many people who had never voted before or who regularly don’t vote….But he also knew that what he said had to basically play to the center to not be run over by the press, the Republicans, scare centrist and cross-over voters away. He made it.

    So he has a narrow mandate for change, without any direction specified. What he’s doing now is moving on the most popular issues — the environment, health care, and the economy. He’ll be progressive on the environment because that has broad popular support; health care will be extended to children, then made universal, but the medical, pharmaceutical, and insurance corporations will stay in place, perhaps yielding some power; the economic agenda will stress stimulation from the bottom sometimes and handouts to the top at other times. It will be pragmatic…

    And I agree with this strategy. Anything else will court sure defeat. Move on the stuff you can to a small but significant extent, gain support and confidence. Leave the military alone because they’re way too powerful. For now, until enough momentum is raised. By the second or third year of this recession, when stimulus is needed at the bottom, people may begin to discuss cutting the military budget if security is being increased through diplomacy and application of nascent international law.

    Obama plays basketball. I’m not much of an athlete, barely know the game, but one thing I do know is that you have to be able to look like you’re doing one thing but do another. That’s why all these conservative appointments are important: the strategy is feint to the right, move left. Any other strategy invites sure defeat. It would be stupid to do otherwise in this environment…

    Read Obama’s first book, “Dreams from My Father.” The second section is the story of his three years doing community organizing in Chicago. It’s some of the best writing on organizing I’ve ever seen. That’s all it’s about, the core of the book. Obama learned many lessons of strategy and patience…

    This is no stupid guy… Had any of the stupid Republicans read his books, they never could have said, “We don’t know who this guy is.” You know every thought he’s ever had.

    This is as honest an evaluation of Obama’s strategy and tactics as you are likely to get.

    Leave the military alone because they’re way too powerful. For now, until enough momentum is raised.By the second or third year of this recession, when stimulus is needed at the bottom, people may begin to discuss cutting the military budget if security is being increased through diplomacy and application of nascent international law.

    That is the key phrase in Rudd’s essay.

    The recession is three years in. Americans are war weary and worried about their jobs, their homes and their children’s future.

    Obama has negotiated the New START disarmament treaty with Russia and invoked the United Nations’ Responsibility to Protect Doctrine in Libya.

    Defense cuts are now on the agenda – supported by even some Republicans. Americans are being told the world is a place, reality notwithstanding.

    In the most unstable period since World War 2, the U.S. is about to lower its defenses both globally and at home.

    Wish I was a champagne merchant in Moscow right now.

    Couple that with this Tom Fife and Anne Leary Interview from JRN

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