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    Russia isn't going to take Alaska back.

    Sarah Palin lives there. She'll shoot 'em all.
    Well let me tell you, the 'Old Believers' think modern Russia (since 1666) is the Antichrist, literally, and have no love for the 'official' Russian Orthodox Church.

    Putinistas won't be getting much support from that segment of the Alaskan population; they migrated to places like Siberia and Alaska to get further away from modern society and the Russian Authorities.
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    Russian Official: ‘Russia Will Regain Alaska, The Baltic Countries, Finland And Poland”


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    The representative of the Russian Federation to the Council of Europe in Roman Kokorev Facebook says that back in the Russian territory of Moldova, Ukraine and other former Soviet republics, as well as Alaska, the Baltic States, Finland and Poland.

    About this he wrote on Facebook during correspondence with Pauline Godorog that made ​​their dialogue and screenshots posted on his page .



    I’m sure this guy is just running his mouth but if there really is this kind of imperialism inside the Kremlin then the world is in for some hurt. Can you imagine Russia invading Alaska? That would be insane. America has some 20,000 troops in Alaska including the 11th Air Force, two brigade combat teams, an Combat Aviation Brigade, a Maneuver Enhancement Brigade, the United States Army garrisons in Alaska as well as tenant organizations. A National Guard Infantry Group and the 17th Coast Guard district.

    Against that Russia would throw, in theory, 4 Armies, Pacific Fleet, several independent brigades(mechanized and airborne), Naval Infantry brigade, 3rd Air Force, and several other units. It would be one hell of a fight. Remember this because as unliely as it is, this couldvery well be what Putin is thinking. Stay Tuned..


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    The role of 'CONDITIONAL enemy "will exceed 20 aircraft, and" northern capital "to defend the S-300 and S-1 PANCIR

    St. Petersburg will be "attacked" simultaneously on three sides, all launches of cruise missiles and other - and the attacker and defense - will be electronic

    Russian armed forces - for the first time in the past quarter of a century practiced its first air raid on a city the size of St. Petersburg and defend their "northern capital" of such an attack.

    The role of the attacker ("conditional opponents") is more than 20 aircraft of the Russian impact of the Western Military District: Su-34, MiG-29 SMT, Su-27 and MiG-31st

    According to the scenario, the attack on Petergurg performed simultaneously from three directions, it will reflect a zenith-missile systems S-300 and S-1 vest that are in constant combat duty.

    More specifically, aviation Western Military District has a duty to break his own defense of St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region vital facilities, and job training - to timely detect and "destroy".

    I attack and defense - electronically. In other words, the planes' conditional enemy "and defenders of the electronic launch cruise and other missiles, and automated system of Western orkugom the online register and evaluate the performance of both parties.

    The whole exercise will last for three days.

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    I suspect they aren't doing this just for the fun of it, to keep their hand in, or stay in practice either.
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    I had heard when the Russians invade Alaska they will kill many...

    U.S. trained Alaskans as secret 'stay-behind agents' during Cold War...



    WASHINGTON — Fearing a Russian invasion and occupation of Alaska, the U.S. government in the early Cold War years recruited and trained fishermen, bush pilots, trappers and other private citizens across Alaska for a covert network to feed wartime intelligence to the military, newly declassified Air Force and FBI documents show.

    Invasion of Alaska? Yes. It seemed like a real possibility in 1950.

    "The military believes that it would be an airborne invasion involving bombing and the dropping of paratroopers," one FBI memo said. The most likely targets were thought to be Nome, Fairbanks, Anchorage and Seward.

    So FBI director J. Edgar Hoover teamed up on a highly classified project, code-named "Washtub," with the newly created Air Force Office of Special Investigations, headed by Hoover protege and former FBI official Joseph F. Carroll.

    The secret plan was to have citizen-agents in key locations in Alaska ready to hide from the invaders of what was then only a U.S. territory. The citizen-agents would find their way to survival caches of food, cold-weather gear, message-coding material and radios. In hiding they would transmit word of enemy movements.

    This was not civil defense of the sort that became common later in the Cold War, as when Americans built their own bomb shelters. This was an extraordinary enlistment of civilians as intelligence operatives on U.S. soil.

    This account of the "Washtub" project is based on hundreds of pages of formerly secret documents. The heavily censored records were provided to The Associated Press by the Government Attic, a website that publishes government documents it obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.

    The Russians never invaded, of course.

    So the covert cadre of "stay-behind agents," as they were known, was never activated to collect and report wartime information from backwoods bunkers. It was an assignment that federal officials acknowledged (to each other, if not to the new agents) was highly dangerous, given that the Soviet Union's military doctrine called for the elimination of local resistance in occupied territory.

    To compensate for expected casualties, a reserve pool of agents was to be held outside of Alaska and inserted by air later as short-term replacements. This assignment was seen as an easier sell to potential recruits because "some agents might not be too enthusiastic about being left behind in enemy-occupied areas for an indefinite period of time," one planning document noted dryly.
    "Washtub" was not, however, a washout.

    It operated from 1951-59, according to Deborah Kidwell, official historian of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, or OSI.

    "While war with the Soviet Union did not come to Alaska, OSI trained 89 SBA (stay-behind agents), and the survival caches served peacetime purposes for many years to come," she wrote in an OSI magazine last year.

    With the benefit of hindsight, it would be easy to dismiss "Washtub" as a harebrained scheme born of paranoia. In fact it reflected genuine worry about Soviet intentions and a sense of U.S. vulnerability in a turbulent post-World War II period.

    As the plan was being shaped in 1950, Soviet-backed North Korea invaded South Korea, triggering a war on the peninsula that some in the Pentagon saw as a deliberate move by Moscow to distract Washington before invading Europe. The previous summer the Soviets stunned the world by exploding their first atomic bomb. Also in 1949, the United States locked arms with Western Europe to form the NATO alliance, and Mao Zedong's revolutionaries declared victory in China, adding to American fear that communism was on the march.

    "Washtub" was known inside the government by several other codenames, including Corpuscle, Stigmatic and Catboat, according to an official Air Force history of the OSI, which called it one of OSI's "most extensive and long-running Cold War projects." The FBI had its own code word for the project: STAGE.

    The first and more urgent was the stay-behind agent program. The second was a parallel effort to create a standby pool of civilian operatives in Alaska trained to clandestinely arrange for the evacuation of downed military air crews in danger of being captured by Soviet forces. This "evasion and escape" plan was coordinated with the CIA.

    Among those listed as a stay-behind agent was Dyton Abb Gilliland of Cooper Landing, a community on the Kenai Peninsula south of Anchorage. A well-known bush pilot, Gilliland died in a plane crash on Montague Island in Prince William Sound in May 1955 at age 45. FBI records say he spent 12 days in Washington D.C., in June-July 1951 undergoing a range of specialized training, including in the use of parachutes.

    The agents also got extensive training in coding and decoding messages, but this apparently did not always go well. Learning these techniques was "an almost impossible task for backwoodsmen to master in 15 hours of training," one document said. Details in the document were blacked out.

    Many agent names in the OSI and FBI documents also were removed before being declassified.

    None of the indigenous population was included. The program founders believed that agents from the "Eskimo, Indian and Aleut groups in the Territory should be avoided in view of their propensities to drink to excess and their fundamental indifference to constituted governments and political philosophies. It is pointed out that their prime concern is with survival and their allegiance would easily shift to any power in control."

    Recruiters pitched patriotism and were to offer retainer fees of up to $3,000 a year (nearly $30,000 in 2014 dollars). That sum was to be doubled "after an invasion has commenced," according to one planning document. The records do not say how much was actually paid during the course of the program.

    At least some recruits were fingerprinted and all were secretly screened by the FBI for signs of disloyalty.

    The FBI linked one candidate, a resident of Stony River, to a list of names in a 1943 bureau file on "Communist Party activities, Alaska" that tracked U.S. subscribers to a magazine called "Soviet Russia Today."

    Another candidate was flagged — falsely, it turned out — as a likely communist sympathizer based on an FBI informant's tip about membership in the "Tom Paine Club, Communist Party, Spokane, Washington."

    One was described in a May 1952 OSI memo to the FBI office in Anchorage as the postmaster in Kiana, Alaska; another was manager of a hotel in Valdez. One agent candidate worked for a tin-mining company at Lost River on the Seward Peninsula, one of the higher-priority areas for placing "Washtub" stay-behind agents.

    The FBI tapped its local contacts, including federal judges, the head of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Anchorage, an Anchorage physician and others for names of reliable Alaskans to be approached.

    "Washtub" was crafted in painstaking detail. But just as the first trained agents were to be put in place in September 1951, Hoover pulled out, leaving it in OSI's hands, even though one month earlier his top lieutenants had advised him the FBI was "in these programs neck deep," with an "obvious and inescapable" duty to proceed.

    Hoover worried that when the shooting in Alaska started the FBI would be "left holding the bag."

    "If a crisis arose we would be in the midst of another 'Pearl Harbor' and get part of the blame," Hoover wrote in the margin of a Sept. 6, 1951, memo from an aide, to whom Hoover added one final order: "Get out at once."
    Three years later, Hoover was pulled back in, briefly.

    In October 1954, an envelope and a typewritten letter containing a coded message were turned over to the FBI by a woman in Anchorage. It had been misaddressed by the anonymous sender in Fairbanks. Espionage was suspected, triggering flurries of FBI internal memos. Hoover was informed that bureau code breakers were urgently trying to decipher the message.

    They never broke the code but eventually declared the crisis over. The mystery message, they determined, was not from an enemy spy. It was a "practice message" sent errantly by one of the "Washtub" agents.

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    Seems kind of possible today....
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    So Obama allows the Russians to build an Army and Naval Base on Wrangel Island Alaska...


    Then on St Lawrence Island Alaska Obama allows the Russians to forward position an Air Force base just off the states coast?

    Russia to Open Arctic Military Drone Base 420 Miles off the Alaskan Coast

    By Damien Sharkov 11/13/14 at 11:43 AM



    Russia has announced plans to build a drone base for military reconnaissance in a town just 420 miles off mainland Alaska and just over 300 miles off the US state’s St Lawrence Island, Russia’s state news agency reported on Thursday.

    "The command of the eastern military district in charge of the military development of the Arctic zone has moved forward with plans to form an unmanned aerial vehicle division,” Alexandr Gordeev, spokesperson for the district said.

    Gordeev explained the base will be stationed around the Russian town of Anadyr, considered the administrative centre of the country’s eastern-most region of Chukotka and currently recruitment is underway for experienced personnel to be sent there.

    According to Gordeev beside functioning as an air drone base, the facility will also be equipped with other “mobile units” operated by entirely by professional servicemen as opposed to conscripts, who still make up a large proportion of Russia’s ground forces.

    The new base’s key objective will be to provide air reconnaissance for the Russian navy in its eastern waters which directly border U.S. waters.

    Since last year Russia has been in an ongoing territorial dispute with Canada over both countries' presence in the Arctic. Following an appeal from Canada to the UN for increased control over the Arctic, which the North American nation currently shares with Russia, the US, Denmark and Norway, Russia responded by strengthening military presence in its regions close to the North Pole.

    The stretch of land known as the continental shelf which remains out of the reach of any of the five countries is speculated to be rich in gas and oil.

    This latest move is also part of a long-term strategy on Russia’s part of modernising its military with unmanned air vehicles. General major Edward Cherkasov also announced today the armed forces’ Chemical Corps is also developing a drone programme.

    Moscow intends to modernise its specialist branch, which deals with chemical, biological and nuclear threats, by updating 70% of its facilities to improve efficiency of operation and long distance reconnaissance, Cherkasov added.

    Last month, Russian armed forces presented the latest addition to their drone arsenal in the form of the “weatherproof” Zala 421-08M, developed to be easily carried by land infantry and remain airborne for up to 100 hours at a time.

    Larger drones for the Russian military are also under development, with a 30kg version of the Zala which can stay airborne for longer carrying more weight, while earlier this spring Russian state television unveiled a long endurance, army drone with the capability of performing strike missions called the UAV Altius 001.

    The announcement comes a day after the Russian air force announced that it plans to fly patrol missions around the world, including sending bomber flights above the Gulf of Mexico. According to NATO, Russian incursions into European airspace have increased by 300% in the last year, with bomber flights spotted as far west as Portugal.

    Safety concerns over the military posturing have been raised after a Russian reconnaissance plane with its transponder turned off came within 90 metres of a passenger jet taking off from Copenhagen airport.


    Russian drone base near Alaska: Deputy PM makes worrisome remarks



    Russia is opening a military drone base only 420 miles from the coast of Alaska and 300 miles from St Lawrence Island, according to a Thursday report on Newsweek. The base will be located at Anadyr in Chukotka, the eastern-most part of Russia. It will also serve as a headquarters for other types of mobile units involved in a new recognizance effort being launched around the world. One example of the new military posturing is the traditional Russian Air Force’s planned bombing runs across the Gulf of Mexico.

    It is difficult not to read more into the new base near Alaska in light of comments made last month by Russia’s deputy prime minister, Dmitry Rogozin. IB Times reports that he has referred to their historical right to get back “Russian America” or the “lost colonies” that were sold to the United States 147 years ago. Could Alaska be the next Crimea?

    Russia is currently staffing this new base with professionals who will operate the new, amped up military technology, such as the weather-proof Zala 421-08. (It can stay in the air for 100 hours.) Newsweek explained that bigger, more advanced drone technology is in the works. It is sobering to consider that Russian ventures into European airspace increased at 300% over the last year while all the Russian aggression has occurred in the Ukraine.

    Reality TV in the United States has become obsessed with life in Alaska, dubbing it the “last frontier.” The lure of a different kind of freedom calls from the endless miles of the Alaskan bush. Alaska is as wide as the entire United States and as big as California, Texas and Montana combined. Could it be that Russia is literally eyeing the land as a potential annexation as they did Crimea? Maybe they consider Alaska to have “always been an unalienable part of Russia.”



    Is Alaska Next? Russia's Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin Calls for Annexation of 'Russian America'



    Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin(Reuters)
    Russia's deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin has argued that Moscow has a right to get back Alaska from the United States 147 years after it sold "Russian America" to Washington.

    In a foreword to the revisionist book Alaska Betrayed and Sold: The History of a Palace Conspiracy by Ivan Mironov, Rogozin acknowledges the historical right of Russia for "the return of lost colonies", the Moscow Times reports.

    Supporting the author's view that the Alaska sale was a betrayal of Russia's power status, Rogozin argues that the transfer of Russian America was marred by "outright lies and falsifications".

    "Russia giving up its colonial possessions makes it necessary to look in a different way at our diplomacy in the era of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, trading away pieces of the Soviet Empire," he wrote.

    The Russian empire offered to sell Alaska to the US a first time in 1859 but it was not until 30 March 1867 that secretary of state William Seward agreed to a proposal of $7.2m (£4.5m). President Andrew Johnson signed the treaty on 28 May and it was transferred on 18 October of the same year.

    Critics called the move "Seward's Folly", but were silenced after a major gold deposit was discovered in the Yukon in 1896. It became a state in 1959.

    Rogozin's remarks about the historical right of Russia to take Alaska back are especially sinister because they echo similar comments by Putin in the wake of Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula. In a referendum that the US and the EU said violated the Ukrainian constitution and international law, 97% of voters in Crimea, part of Russia until 1954, voted for secession from Ukraine.

    In a special address to a joint session of the Russian parliament that gathered to accept the Republic of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, Putin said that Crimea "has always been an inalienable part of Russia". The Black Sea peninsula was "saturated with our common history", he added.

    He said that Russia was "robbed of Crimea", which was handed over "like a sack of potatoes" after the breakup of the Soviet Union.

    "Millions of Russians went to sleep in one country, and woke up in another," Putin said. "What seemed incredible became a reality - the USSR fell apart."

    Putin has repeatedly stated his intention to protect ethnic Russians living in Ukrainian regions due to the strong cultural connection between them and "Mother Russia". In August he referred to the restive eastern regions of Ukraine as "Novorossiya" or New Russia.

    Approximately 21% of Ukraine's population is Russian and it has deep cultural and historical links with Russia. The Russian ambassador to Ukraine has even stated that "Ukrainians and Russians are a single nation."

    Since he was reelected president in 2012, Putin has appealed to the traditional nationalist and religious base of his electorate, calling for a return for Russia among the superpowers.

    Russia Sends Nuclear Submarine Troops on Arctic Exercise


    By Damien Sharkov 2/6/15 at 1:24 PM


    The crew of Russia's nuclear-powered submarine Yekaterinburg line up on its deck as it returns to Gadjiyevo base in Murmansk region. Lev Fedoseev/File/ REUTERS

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    Nuclear units in the Russian navy have engaged in exercises in the international waters underneath the North Pole, a move which analysts believe is a thinly veiled response to yesterday’s news that NATO is to reinforce its eastern European border with Russia.

    “In particular we focused on hazard and threat detection, but also on missile launching and navigation manoeuvres, ice reconnaissance, submerging and emerging from ice, using torpedoes to undermine ice and many other issues,” North Fleet captain Vadim Serga said.

    Among the units which took part in the exercises were the crews of several Borei-class ballistic missile nuclear submarines, an upgrade of Russia’s old Delta 3, Delta 4 and Typhoon nuclear vessels.

    The Russian captain also added that the Fleet’s crew were given theoretical as well as practical exercises, which were led by vice admiral Anatoly Shevchenko, whose nuclear submarine has ventured underneath the North Pole ice several times before.

    “Under his guidance nuclear submarine crews learned about previous voyages under the Arctic, studying issues of tactical maneuvering of weapons,” Serga added.
    According to the North Fleet spokesperson the aims of today’s mission was so that younger crewmen to become better versed in Arctic warfare.

    However, Elbridge Colby an expert in nuclear force and intelligence at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), believes the timing of the snap exercise is effectively a “threatening reminder” to NATO of Russia’s nuclear capabilities.

    “The Russians have been deliberately upping the public side of their nuclear exercises recently for strategic purposes. They have both been increasing the number of exercises they are performing and they have also been making them more public,” Colby says.

    “On one side this is definitely intended as a show of national strength to the Russian public but it is also designed to demonstrate Russia’s strength and nuclear options to NATO and the West.”

    While Colby says Russia has not made an explicit threat, he believes the country intends to “heighten fear” in the West. “Over the last year the number of exercises has definitely increased. Russia’s ‘nuclear signaling’ has upped quite a bit in the last year or so and we can consider those exercises as specific acts to make it part of the general public’s mental picture in NATO member states that Russia is a dangerous opponent,” Colby adds.

    The Arctic and North Pole is a highly disputed territory due to the huge oil deposits located in the area. Apart from Russia, five other nations currently have claims over the territory, all of whom are NATO members: the U.S., Canada, Norway, Iceland and Denmark.

    While the alliance did not comment on Russia’s recent activities, a spokesperson at the Norwegian armed forces played down Russia’s move.

    “We are well aware of the fact that both nuclear capable, and conventional Russian submarines on a routine basis operate both in the waters surrounding the icecap and underneath the northern ice cap,” the spokesperson said.

    When asked if the Norwegian armed forces were aware of this particular Russian exercise in the arctic, the spokesperson refused to comment, but insisted “It is not a cause of concern”.

    Russia brought all of its armed forces, stationed in territories adjacent to the North Pole, under one command last year and is currently in the process of building a military drone base 420 miles off the coast of Alaska.


    RUSSIA STRENGTHENING ITS ARCTIC FRONTIERS


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    The first Arctic motorized infantry brigade in Russia has started preparations for combat service in the Arctic. This structure was created by the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin a year ago. The new fighting force has been designed to protect the interests of Russia in the Arctic Region.

    To engage in combat operations with snow up to the waist, to deploy modern technology in 40 degrees of frost and just survive in the icy wilderness - this is what the fighters from the first Arctic motorized rifle brigade are being taught. It took the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation just one year to fulfill the president's decree. And here in the village of Alakurtti - near the Finnish border and deep inside the Arctic Circle – a new military settlement has been formed with personnel who have been given the task of safeguarding and conducting training sessions for the protection of the Arctic borders of Russia. And it is of great importance that a separate military district has been created, considers Konstantin Sivkov, 1st Vice President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems.

    Creation of a separate Russian Arctic troop force was dictated by the fact that the Arctic theater of operations has features radically distinguishing it from any other theaters. These forces are unique because of an extremely low operational capacity, severe physical and geographical conditions associated with low temperatures and ice. Furthermore, the theater of operations is basically island-based, because in this region, only the Russian coast forms the continental part. Therefore, the naval fleet, heavy icebreakers and relevant units of Army and Marine Corps are of immense importance here, capable of, according to their configuration of arms and training of personnel, conducting combat operations in these conditions.”

    The Arctic motorized infantry brigade is a part of the Joint Strategic Command (JSC) “Sever” (North). The Russian Northern Fleet is also part of this Command. In course of the year 2015, air defence forces will also become a part of JSC.

    When Russia began to build barracks 50 kilometers from the Finnish border, on the site, by the way, of a former Soviet military base, the Western countries started panicking, alleging Russia that it is pursuing an aggressive policy and advancing its troops to the west and north. Against this background, the arctic military exercises conducted by the Scandinavian countries (Sweden, Norway and Finland) almost went unnoticed, including in the disputed shelf areas with Russia. And few shared Moscow’s concern of an increased presence of the US nuclear submarine fleet in the Barents Sea, which is responsible for a rapid deployment in the Arctic Region, notes Konstantin Sivkov, 1st Vice President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems.

    Other countries are also in the process of building up their military forces in the Arctic region. The US is stepping up its activities in submarine waters in the region; it has even infiltrated by conducting visits inside our territorial waters. There, the US Air Force conducts proactive and mainly reconnaissance flights. In Alaska, a joint missile defence force is being deployed by the US and Canada. There, a powerful strike force consisting of tactical aircrafts is being deployed.”

    All of this, of course, is because of the rich deposits of natural resources, offered by the Arctic Region. At a time when everyone wants to grab a piece of the pie, Russia is inclined to strengthen its borders and be prepared to defend its interests in the Arctic. According to the military doctrine of the Russian Federation, the formation of groups of military forces in the Arctic is intended to ensure the safety of the socio-economic development of Russia in the Arctic Region and is of a defensive and deterrent nature.

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    I'm beginning to see embedded within this Russian professors breakup prediction analysis map a legend to a possible regional multinational Axis invasion plan.

    The map below outlines the regions where each participating nation or nations in a Axis multinational coalition would penetrate America.



    Red: Russia would launch several invasions points along the borders and or within this region, notice the East Coast is also Red.

    Green: China would launch several invasions points along the borders and or within this region, also notice Japan has been drawn into China's influence probably after a bankrupt America.

    Blue: Mexico/Cartels/Hezbollah and a coalition of Latin American countries would launch several invasions points along and or within this region, Mexico could also support China along the California and Arizona borders.

    Yellow area would be the second phase of the invasion after DC falls and the seat of government moves to West to be re-established.


    This is where the final battles would be fought.




    China to Back Hawaiian Independence to End US Territorial Claims

    Restoration of kingdom could end U.S. military presence


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    BY: Bill Gertz

    HONOLULU—China has suggested arming Hawaii’s independence activists in retaliation for U.S. arms sales to Taiwan and recently threatened to challenge American sovereignty by making legal claims to the Pacific islands as its territory.

    Chinese threats to back several groups of Hawaiian independence activists who want to restore the islands’ constitutional monarchy, ousted in a U.S.-backed coup over a century ago, has raised concerns that military facilities on the strategic central Pacific archipelago are threatened at a time when the Obama administration is engaged in a major shift toward Asia as part of its military and diplomatic rebalance.

    Michael Pillsbury, a Pentagon consultant and author of the recent book 100 Year Marathon, said Chinese military hawks, known as “ying pai,” told him they are ready to provide arms to Hawaiian independence activists in retaliation for U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.

    “Beijing’s extraordinary sensitivity to American arms sales to Taiwan—even one bullet or a spare tire for a jeep—often provokes angry words,” said Pillsbury who has held talks with 35 Chinese generals in recent years.

    “A favorite comparison the ying pai has made to me is ‘How would the Pentagon like it if we provide arms to our friends in Hawaiian independence movement?’” he said. “I was incredulous because I had never heard of such a movement in Hawaii, but, after checking I met a few of them.”

    Pillsbury said Chinese backing for the independence movement would be a concern. Some U.S. archival material shows U.S. authorities acted on their own in the 1898 annexation, he said, something Congress later investigated.

    Pillsbury’s book, published last week, reveals that Chinese hawks in the military and Communist Party are a key part of a 100-year strategy to vanquish and eventually overtake the United States as the world’s leading power in the coming decades.

    Another indicator of Chinese interest in fomenting unrest in Hawaii surfaced in 2012, when then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton revealed Beijing had threatened to assert legal, territorial claims over Hawaii.

    Clinton said U.S. ownership of Hawaii came up during talks with the Chinese after she pushed back against Beijing’s destabilizing territorial activities in the South China Sea.

    “At one point in one of my long discussions about this, one of my Chinese interlocutors said, ‘Well, we could claim Hawaii,’” she said. “I said, ‘Well, go ahead, and we’ll go to arbitration and prove we own it. That’s what we want you to do.’”

    The Hawaii sovereignty movement is made up at least 10 groups that are seeking some form of independence from the United States and the re-establishment of the monarchy ousted in 1893, with the support of the U.S. government and a company of U.S. Marines.

    The movement is non-violent and its protests in recent years have been limited to temporary takeovers of government facilities.

    Leon Siu, a Hawaiian-born musician who holds the title of foreign minister of the Hawaiian Kingdom, one of the groups seeking independence, says U.S. military facilities on the islands are contrary to the original monarchy’s neutrality.

    “First of all we’re not native Hawaiians. We’re Hawaiian nationals and we see our country as a lawful, independent country, and we’re working to restore that,” Siu said in an interview. “The bottom line is we want our country back.”


    Images of Hawaiian Kingdom Foreign Minister Leon Sui (overlooking Pearl Harbor in left photo)

    Siu said he has met with Chinese government representatives in the past but was unable to discern their motives or level of support for Hawaiian independence. He has been working through international organizations and international legal institutions for the past 10 years to gain recognition of Hawaii as an independent state.

    Hawaii was ruled under an internationally neutral constitutional monarchy in the late 1800s. After the 1893 coup, a provisional government and then a Republic of Hawaii preceded formal U.S. annexation as a territory in 1898. Hawaii became the 50th state in 1959. About 1.4 million people live on the eight main islands.

    Hawaii today remains one of the Pentagon’s most important strategic military outposts, located in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, some 2,500 miles from California, and 4,000 miles from Tokyo. It is the central point of the military’s strategy of shifting forces to the Asia Pacific as part of the so-called “rebalance,” designed to counter Chinese bullying in the region.

    The Navy’s historic Pearl Harbor Naval Base is home to the U.S. Pacific Fleet, which commands some 27 ships, 1,100 aircraft, and more than 140,000 sailors and civilians based throughout the Asia Pacific.

    The Air Force operates nearby Hickam Air Force Base, headquarters of the Pacific Air Force, with 45,000 airmen in the region and 300 warplanes.

    The Army’s Schofield Barracks is the headquarters for 80,000 Army troops deployed throughout the Asia Pacific region. The Army, facing sharp budget cuts, has announced plans to cut the number of troops based at Schofield by 16,000 and another 3,800 at nearby Fort Shafter.

    The National Security Agency also operates a major electronic eavesdropping post in Hawaii known as “Kunia.”

    A defense official said military counterintelligence agencies several years ago conducted routine assessments of the Hawaiian independence movement to determine whether the movement might pose a threat, should its activists turn to violence and threaten U.S. troops.

    Siu, of the Hawaiian Kingdom group, said he was told by a Pentagon official several years ago that contingency plans had been drawn up for withdrawing forces from Hawaii in the event of independence. “But I’m sure [the U.S. military] would rather renegotiate” the military bases to keep forces in place, he said.

    Pentagon and Pacific Command spokesmen said they were unaware of any such contingency plan. “I’m not aware of any concerns here in the Pentagon for something like this occurring,” said Pentagon spokesman Mark Wright.

    On a future U.S. military presence, Siu said Hawaiian nationals believe they should be the ones to determine whether U.S. military bases remain in the country.

    A military presence, however, would be contrary to Hawaii’s declared status as a neutral power in 1854.

    A new Hawaiian Kingdom government after independence would have to decide the fate of the military facilities.

    “I would favor a relationship [in which] the United States would help protect us because of our treaty of friendship, as well as Britain and France and every other nation with whom we have treaties, such as China, Japan,” Siu said.

    “More specifically, I would not favor the United States maintaining their military bases here but that’s not my decision,” he added.

    Siu says that despite the creation of the U.S. state of Hawaii in 1959, the kingdom remained a lawful entity that includes the entire Hawaii island chain and the remnants of the population at the time of the coup.

    Under the 1933 Montevideo Convention, the Hawaii Kingdom meets all the conditions of a sovereign nation, except that it is not conducting international affairs, except on a small scale, he said, noting that his job has been carrying out that mission at the United Nations in New York and Geneva for the past 10 years.

    Several international court cases also are challenging what Siu calls the “unlawful occupation” of Hawaii by the United States.

    The independence movement was given new life in 1993 under the administration of President Bill Clinton who signed the Apology Resolution recognizing that the United States “apologizes to native Hawaiians on behalf of the people of the United States for the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17, 1893, with the participation of agents and citizens of the United States, and the deprivation of the rights of native Hawaiians to self-determination.”

    Not surprisingly, both the Hawaiian state government and the federal government dispute the independence activists’ claims. Both have tried to placate the movement by offering to recognize native Hawaiians as an American Indian tribe, with the same level of independence Indian tribes have had within the U.S. system of government.

    Siu says the federal government has dismissed the independence claims as “water under the bridge” arguing that because of long U.S. government control that past claims of independence are no longer valid.

    “Native Hawaiian people are quite insulted to be grouped as an American Indian tribe and so that has been totally rejected by our people,” he said.

    Cindy McMillan, a spokeswoman for Hawaiian Democratic Gov. David Ige, said the governor was unavailable to comment.

    Chinese Embassy spokesman Zhu Haiquan said he has never heard any Chinese officials use “such rhetoric as you mentioned.”

    “It is either a serious misunderstanding or a rumor with untold intentions,” he said.

    China opposes arms sales to Taiwan, Zhu added.

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    If Bill Gertz is reporting on this, you can pretty much take it to the bank.

    One thing that should be considered, if Hawaii is allowed to secede in some manner, could that start other state dominoes falling?

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    These Hawaiian assholes are just after money and power. They need to go sit in their mom's basements and jerk off thinking about how great it would be the king and leave everyone else alone.

    That said, I couldn't give a fuck about Hawaii other than the geopolitical consequences. We don't need the Chinese to have a base there but if everyone in Hawaii were working on a Pineapple plantation, who cares. Hawaii doesn't contribute to the United States in any meaningful way other than being a vacation destination.
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    Damn you Howlies anyway. They just want to get back what is actually theirs. Ask Aztlan about it...

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    Anyone else catch the maps and see its parallel to the Titor story? Odd no? Not saying its a proof etc just that its oddly mirroring that.

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    Phil, we've been seeing a lot of parallels to Titor's stories.

    That's probably what is eating at me.
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    Creepy. Last battles right in my back yard. You know what conspiracy folks say about Denver being the relocated capital?

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    Denver will get nuked.


    No real reason except that there's a big airport there. There's a couple military bases. A VA hospital.

    Nothing comes out of Denver that runs this country. There's nothing produced there. I can think of NOTHING Denver contributes to America. Except John Denver I suppose. LOL Except John Denver is actually from Roswell, NM originally. Colorado was his adopted home, just like me.
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    Nothing comes out of Denver that runs this country. There's nothing produced there. I can think of NOTHING Denver contributes to America. Except John Denver I suppose. LOL Except John Denver is actually from Roswell, NM originally. Colorado was his adopted home, just like me.
    Denver ain't good for nothing. Wait... Coors beer. No, never mind. Light her up.

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    How quickly Russian troops can invade the European capitals including Washington DC

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    Are they actually threatening the west with invasion or is this basic saber rattling?

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    hahahahaha

    It's funny they think DC is a European Capital.

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    Will China Help Russia Invade Alaska, North America?

    The theory of 65-year cycles points to a critical moment in China's evolution

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    Chinese soldiers march in formation passed Tiananmen Square and the Forbidden City during a military parade on September 3, 2015 in Beijing, China. (Photo: Kevin Frayer/Getty Images)

    Five Chinese navy ships are currently operating in the Bering Sea off the coast of Alaska, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, marking the first time the U.S. military has seen them in the area. Why the sudden interest?


    Because the Chinese have been studying the cycles. From generational theorists William Strauss and Neil Howe, they have learned that political/cultural cycles last only 65 years, and then they collapse, cycles first observed by Taoist monks and Roman philosophers. And China is exactly 66 years advanced since the Chinese Communist Revolution of 1949. In terms of generational cycles, China is on the eve of destruction. (In terms of the Strauss/Howe theory, so are we.)

    The Chinese have been studying Western theories and economic cycles like the Elliott Wave, which suggests that the life cycle of a dominant currency has its limitations, and the American dollar cycle has ended. They have been studying economist Harry Dent, investment gurus Jim Rogers, Marc Faber and libertarian Ron Paul, seen often here only in the shadows, and understand that America is at a full economic transition, potentially a catastrophic cultural turning.

    They have been reading Nicholson Baker’s day-by-day account, Human Smoke: The beginnings of WWII, the End of Civilization. They understand fully without Western sentimentality or illusion what comes next at the end of the economic cycle: Total war.

    Would Americans in the Lower 48 defend Alaska? Canada? Or would we instead deal Canada away to avoid war below and “find peace”?

    And they know that they have every advantage, for so many reasons. The first might reach back to 1913, when the 17th Amendment was approved in America. It focused power in New York and Washington and nullified the natural rise and development of states and regions into indigenous republics or “laboratories of democracy,” the phrase used by Justice Louis Brandeis. But created in time a vast meandering horde wandering without fences, formed by Hollywood light and sound, answering to no one, or anyone.

    It was one of the early Tea Party initiatives to put the fences back, but it is now too late and not enough.

    They understand the “lessons of Vietnam”: Here in the age of the individualized common man where every woman or man can be emperor, it is not just the rich who will not fight, not just the connected who will avoid service (Dick Cheney had five military deferments in the Vietnam era). Almost no one will fight and those who do will be despised.
    And although nostalgico generations celebrating Franklin D. Roosevelt (like Bernie Sanders) still romantically view us as unified (largely European) minions formed by great Hollywood figures; Frank Capra, Howard Hawks, Gary Cooper movies like Sergeant York, we no longer are. We view ourselves today as “totalitarian lite” benevolent world conquerors and everybody wants to be like us (except the Chinese and Russians). Senator from Arkansas Tom Cotton today calls for “global military dominance.” But we have no temperament for war. Scholarly studies report that, just one percent of current residents of New Jersey have served in military since Vietnam.

    Secretary of State John Kerry’s appeasement of the Ayatollahs in the Iran deal comes as no surprise. Not to China, which carefully plans its next steps in the now permanent relationship with the war-weary and wary West.

    Jim Webb, warrior/scholar and former Senator from Virginia, who is running for president has been watching this a long time.

    “From this point forward,” he wrote in the Wall Street Journal back in 2001, “no one should doubt that our over investment in the economy of a nondemocratic and ever more aggressive nation has seriously compromised our ability to conduct foreign policy in the world’s most dynamic region. And the fact that we have become vulnerable to a Chinese military modernized through the benefits of our own technology should give all of us pause.”


    Chinese missiles are seen on trucks as they drive next to Tiananmen Square and the Great Hall of the People during a military parade on September 3, 2015 in Beijing, China. (Photo: Kevin Frayer/Getty Images)

    Webb prefaced his article with a quote from Sun Tzu, in The Art of War: “Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confusion. Use anger to throw them into disarray.”

    It is safe to say today that we are now passed the “draw them in” phase and entering into the “take them by confusion” phase and that is what the Chinese ships are doing off the Alaskan coast. Soon ahead, the “use anger to throw them into disarray” phase.

    Possibly we would come together in defense today if an outside invader approached the United States (Lower 48) either from China on one side, or Russia on the other. But would Americans in the Lower 48 defend Alaska? Canada? Or would we instead deal Canada away to avoid war below and “find peace”? As our long, intimate, historic relationship with Israel disintegrates almost overnight, General Secretary of the Communist Party Xi Jinping thinks he knows the answer.

    Most Americans who have never seen Dougie Gilmour crawl off the ice with a broken leg in his last day on ice, have never been to Tim Hortons or canoed the mystic Canadian wilderness, think Canadians are silly, preoccupied only with hockey. Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin, who wants to be president, fully personifies this dangerous American narcissism: He wants to build a fence not only across the border with Mexico, but one across the border with Canada as well. But Canada, and Alaska, are absolutely vital to America’s defence, even to our very existence.

    Time to read again, John McPhee’s Coming into the Country. Time to read again, Margaret Atwood’s Survival: A Thematic Guide to Canadian Literature. Time to read again, Sun Tzu’s The Art of War.

    That President Obama is the first American president to cross into the Arctic Circle is astonishing. That tells the Chinese, and the Russians who planted the flag at the North Pole and declared it to be their own well back in 2007, virtually everything they need to know about our relationship with the Great White North.

    That is where they must start in the next phase of civilization between China, Russia and North America: Using “anger to throw them into disarray.”

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    Alaska and Hawaii Ask United Nations to Recognize U.S as “Occupiers”

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    The indigenous peoples of Alaska and Hawaii appealed to the international community through the United Nations with a request to ensure their right to self-determination. The letter was circulated in Geneva.

    In the address, the representatives of the peoples of Alaska and Hawaii urged UN members to raise the issue on May 11th in the framework of the consideration of the UN Council on Human Rights of the periodic review of the human rights and freedoms in the United States, according to TASS.

    The appeal emphasizes that the sale of Russian Alaska to the United States in 1867 did “not mean the transfer of sovereignty over Alaska to the United States” and the “US invasion of Hawaii in 1893 was a violation of bilateral treaties and international law.” “The territory of Alaska and Hawaii in 1959 were absorbed by the United States through deception and deliberate breaches of the mandate and UN principles, and the process of self-determination”, – stated the document. Residents of the two U.S. States urged the UN “to fix the mistake” and use peaceful means to achieve a referendum for the self-determination of Alaska and Hawaii.

    For a more effective action in this direction, even set up a joint working group – “Alliance of Alaska-Hawaii for self-determination.” “They’re taking our land and are mining mineral resources in huge quantities, causing damage to the environment. We believe that the Russians can help us.

    The year 2017 will mark 150 years since the sale of Alaska by Russia to the USA. If we could, working with the Russians, provide the truth about what really happened in history and to reject the distorted concepts about Alaska and our people, I think it would be a good way to rectify the situation,” – said the representative of Alaska in the working group “Alliance Alaska-Hawaii for self-determination” Ronald Barnes to the meeting in the Swiss press club in Geneva. “Our culture is suppressed.

    However, US actions are directed not only against our culture but also of world peace, because Hawaii hosts the military base of Pearl Harbor. During military exercises they pollute our land and water. From this people get sick. This is an abuse of our land and people.

    We don’t want to be a part of the war machine”, – said the representative of Hawaii Leon Siu. In an interview with TASS, Barnes stressed that Alaska and Russia have a lot of common in history, culture and religion. “I am Orthodox”, he said in Russian.

    Continuing in English, he said that many of his relatives have Russian names and Russian words are used, for example, “handkerchief” and “oil”. “We believe that the Russians could help us, said Barnes. “The year 2017 will mark 150 years since the sale of Alaska by Russia to the USA. If we could, working with the Russians, provide the truth about what really happened in history and reject the distorted concepts about Alaska and our people, I think it would be a good way to fix the situation.”

    According to Barnes, Alaska could become “a neutral state lying between Russia and the West”. Recall that Alaska became part of the USA in 1867.

    Prior to that, it was under the control of the Russian-American company, but was sold by the Tsarist government. The state is home to 88 thousand representatives of indigenous peoples, including Eskimos, Aleuts and Indians. The Hawaiian Islands were annexed by the USA in 1900. They received statehood in 1959, before the island functioned as a self-governing territory. The proportion of remaining indigenous population in Hawaii does not exceed 10% of the 1360 thousand total population of the Islands.

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