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    Russia's first Persian Gulf naval presence coordinated with Tehran

    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
    May 26, 2009, 6:47 PM (GMT+02:00)



    Russian "Admiral Panteleyev" steams toward Bahrain

    Russian warships are due to call Wednesday, May 27, at the Bahrain port of Manama, seat of the US Fifth Fleet in the Persian Gulf, DEBKAfile's military sources reveal. They will be following in the wake of the Russian vessels already docked at the Omani port of Salalah, the first to avail themselves of facilities at Gulf ports.

    Their arrival is fully coordinated between the Russian and Iranian naval commands.

    According to our sources, this is the first time a Russian flotilla will have taken on provisions and fuel at the same Gulf ports which hitherto serviced only the US Navy. Moscow has thus gained its first maritime foothold in the Persian Gulf.

    The flotilla consists of four vessels from Russia's Pacific Fleet: The submarine fighter Admiral Panteleyev is due at Manama Wednesday, escorted by the refueling-supply ship Izhorai, The supply-battleship Irkut and the rescue craft BM-37 are already docked in Salalah.

    DEBKAfile's military sources report that the Russians, like the Iranians, cover their stealthy advance into new waters by apparent movements for joining the international task force combating Somali pirates. While Iranian warships have taken up positions in the Gulf of Aden, the Russians are moving naval units southeast into the Persian Gulf.

    Monday, May 25, the Iranian naval chief, Adm. Habibollah Sayyari, announced that six Iranian warships had been dispatched to "the international waters" of the Gulf of Aden in a "historically unprecedented move… to show its ability to confront any foreign threats." He did not bother to mention the pirates.

    Russian and Iranian naval movements in the two strategic seas are clearly synchronized at the highest levels in Tehran and Moscow.

    Our military analysts find Russia and Iran seizing the moment for supplanting positions held exclusively by the US and other western fleets.

    They are taking advantage of two developments:

    1. The number of US warships maintained in the Gulf has been reduced to its lowest level in two years; President Obama quietly reduced their presence near Iran's shores in order to generate a positive atmosphere for the coming US dialogue with the Islamic Republic. Not a single US aircraft carrier is consequently to be found anywhere in the Gulf region.

    2. Monday, May 25, President Nicolas Sarkozy inaugurated France's first naval facility in the Gulf in Abu Dhabi. The Russian and Iranian policy-makers see no reason why Moscow cannot set up a military presence in the region if Paris can.

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    Dear Leader’s gambit

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    The world’s most secretive and unaccountable state, North Korea is a persistence of the Cold War dream wherein the Iron Curtain was never lifted. That’s why words and actions of this “predictably unpredictable” state cannot be ignored. True, there’s a pattern to the way the Dear Leader’s criminally deprived country has used the nuclear card to get concessions and international attention. True, North Korea has nothing else to bargain or threaten with. Yet, Monday’s nuclear and missile tests, followed by more missiles the day after, must be acted upon by the international community. For one, there’s an uneasy shrillness in the North’s rhetoric that, coupled with the tests, indicates a shift to an aggressive policy. Since then, it has threatened South Korea with military action following the South’s decision to join the Proliferation Security Initiative that might allow it to search the North’s ships.


    After the UN condemnation of its April 5 alleged missile launch, North Korea threatened to renew its nuclear programme unless the UNSC apologised. By Monday’s tests, in violation of UN Resolution 1718 (adopted after the North’s October 2006 nuclear test), the North delivered on that threat. Perhaps North Korea has no intention of giving up its weapons and nuclear programme: without these it would be just an oppressive regime, not worthy of global fear. It wants to force the US to accept its de facto nuclear capability and thereby normalise relations. The tests could also be a smokescreen for the succession of one of Kim Jong-il’s sons and a tool to ensure the military’s support therein.


    Nevertheless, the UN’s dilemma is the kind and degree of sanctions to impose and whether those would be effective in getting North Korea to rejoin the six-party tasks. Barack Obama’s options are limited and the US is altogether dependent on China, which, as the North’s closest “ally”, has leverage over Pyongyang. China has a record of diluting the UNSC’s impact on North Korea. This time it must deliver. Isolation and diplomacy have both failed so far. If the ailing Dear Leader doesn’t see reason, the result could be a dangerous renewal of hostilities in the Korean peninsula (the Korean War technically never ended) and unmitigated global proliferation
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    White House downplays North Korea's threats

    May 27 02:02 PM US/Eastern



    WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says North Korea's threats against South Korea will not give it the attention Pyongyang wants and will only add to its isolation.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Wednesday that North Korea should live up to its promises and stop its provocations against the South.

    Pyongyang says Seoul's decision to join an international nuclear anti-proliferation program is tantamount to a declaration of war. The North warned of military strikes and declared their 1953 armistice null and void.

    Gibbs says North Korea has threatened to end the armistice many times in past decades but the peace has held.

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    A bomb


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    First Posted 00:24:00 05/28/2009

    Filed Under: Nuclear Policies, Foreign affairs & international relations

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquirer...-207487/A-bomb

    By all indications, North Korea successfully conducted a second nuclear test on Monday—and by most accounts the second atomic bomb was more powerful than the one set off in October 2006. The second bomb had probably the explosive yield equivalent to several thousand tons of TNT, perhaps a fifth of the power of the bomb that devastated Hiroshima, Japan, in 1945.

    By any measure, it was a powerful bomb (US scientists recorded a seismic event equivalent to a magnitude 4.6 earthquake), but it is the bomb’s political and national-security shock waves that continue to reverberate.

    The test came at a critical time: less than two months after the isolationist communist regime in Pyongyang tested its long-range delivery capability by firing a missile over Japan and into the Pacific, and in the wake of the country’s threatened pullout from the so-called Six-Nation denuclearization talks. North Korea has reportedly also re-started a nuclear plant that can produce weapons-grade plutonium. And the reclusive and eccentric North Korean leader, Kim Jong Il, has only recently resurfaced, after rumors of a crisis in the leadership.

    The saber-rattling reached an even more alarming turn on Tuesday. In response to the second atomic test, South Korea joined the Proliferation Security Initiative—a United States-led effort that aims to stop or search ships suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction. North Korea vociferously attacked this decision to participate in the international program, and said it was equal to a “declaration of war.”

    International condemnation of the second nuclear test was swift. Even the country’s traditional allies, China and Russia, condemned the underground blast. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said Beijing was “resolutely opposed” to Pyongyang’s decision to proceed with the test, while the Russian ambassador to the United Nations, who is also currently the Security Council president, pledged that work on a new council resolution would proceed “quickly.”

    The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), whose regional security forum played a crucial albeit unheralded role in getting the Six-Nation talks off the ground, should add its voice to the chorus of denunciation. North Korea’s reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons is endangering not only South Korea and neighboring Japan, but Southeast Asia as well.

    The danger comes, not so much from North Korea’s long-range missiles, but from the impoverished, cash-strapped country’s export of the nuclear technology it is slowly but steadily mastering. The prospect of a so-called dirty bomb in the hands (or the backpack, or the suicide vest) of a Jemaah Islamiya extremist in Singapore or Bali or Boracay has become, unnervingly, a little clearer, a little closer.
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    There is something to be said for ignoring an immature child who is going through a temper tantrum. However, it is quite another to not take seriously a maniacal murderer who is doing the same thing - especially not one sitting there with possibly several nuclear devices ready to launch at any time.
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    Govt eyes ban on all exports to DPRK

    http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national...28TDY01305.htm

    The Yomiuri Shimbun


    The government Wednesday began examining a total ban on exports to North Korea in what would be an escalation of Japanese sanctions on the country in response to its nuclear test, sources said.


    The final decision will be made after observing how discussions develop at the U.N. Security Council regarding sanctions on North Korea, they said.
    Japan imposed its own sanctions on North Korea after Pyongyang launched ballistic missiles and carried out a nuclear test in 2006.


    Currently, the government bans the import of goods from North Korea while prohibiting exports to the country of luxury articles and items linked to weapons of mass destruction.


    According to Finance Ministry trade data, Japan exported goods worth about 800 million yen to North Korea last year.


    Therefore, some observers insist banning all exports to North Korea would have a limited effect on the country. But the government concluded it would be necessary for Japan to take a clear stance against North Korea's "reckless act," a government source said.


    The government said it will consider stepping up sanctions on North Korea and building an international coalition to support further punitive measures against Pyongyang.


    Meanwhile, the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's special committee on the issue of Japanese abducted by North Korea decided Wednesday to urge the government to take the following steps as additional sanctions on the country:


    -- Ban all exports to North Korea.
    -- Prohibit foreign crew who have violated the sanctions from entering the country. If foreign residents of Japan who have violated the embargo travel to North Korea, they will be refused reentry to Japan in principle.
    -- Thoroughly review fixed-asset tax breaks for the General Association of Korean Residents (Chongryon) and its related entities.


    The LDP panel, which is headed by Keiji Furuya, plans to make the request to the government soon, according to the sources.
    (May. 28, 2009)
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    It's all bluster and saber rattling until it isn't...

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    Russia wants tough UN North Korea resolution


    http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/...rea-resolution

    Published: Wednesday 27 May 2009 16:59 UTC
    Last updated: Wednesday 27 May 2009 19:43 UTC


    Russia has come out in favour of a tough United Nations resolution against North Korea following its recent nuclear and missile tests. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the move was not designed to lead to military confrontation and that a diplomatic solution to the problem must be found.

    Russia has traditionally joined China in refusing to criticise North Korea but has categorically condemned Pyongyang's latest nuclear test. The UN Security Council is discussing a new resolution on North Korea and the United States is pushing for tough sanctions to be imposed.

    North Korea, meanwhile, appears to be ignoring the widespread international criticism and has resumed work at its Yongbyon nuclear plant. The plant can produce plutonium, which can be used to produce nuclear weapons.

    North Korea's latest nuclear and missile tests have raised the tension between it and South Korea. Seoul has said it will join the US in searching North Korean ships for weapons of mass destruction. Pyongyang has condemned the initiative as hostile and is threatening to retaliate to any searches with strong and immediate military force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Ruck View Post
    It's all bluster and saber rattling until it isn't...

    Now, that's a hell of a deep think....

    ROTFLMAO.
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    US vows to defend allies amid NKorea 'bluster'

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    WASHINGTON (AFP) — Washington stressed its resolve to defend Asian allies Wednesday, warning North Korea against "saber-rattling and bluster" in the wake of its nuclear test will only deepen the country's isolation.

    The US reiterated commitments to defend Japan and South Korea amid threats from Pyongyang's leaders, who are apparently angered at the fallout from its recent nuclear and missile tests.

    "I want to underscore the commitments the United States has and intends always to honor for the defense of South Korea and Japan," US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said.

    "That is part of our alliance commitment that we take very seriously," Clinton said claiming North Korea's actions had contravened pledges it made during six party talks involving Japan, South Korea, Russia, China and Washington.

    Amid a hail of international condemnation North Korea said it would abandon the truce that ended the Korean war Wednesday and warned it could launch a military attack on the South.

    The comments, which came two days after the Stalinist state tested an nuclear bomb for the second time, drew further condemnation from the United States -- which vowed to counter any military threat.

    "(North Korea) has ignored the international community, it has abrogated the obligations it entered into through the six-party talks and it continues to act in a provocative and belligerent manner towards its neighbors," Clinton said.

    "There are consequences to such actions."

    Her statement came after the regime of Kim Jong-Il had said it could no longer guarantee the safety of US and South Korean ships off its west coast and that the Korean peninsula was veering back towards war.

    The North's anger was provoked by the South's decision to join a US-led international security initiative, established after the September 11 attacks to stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction

    The White House condemned North Korea's response.

    "We're certainly concerned and take any threat seriously. But my sense is they're trying to get renewed attention through saber-rattling and bluster and threats," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.

    "Threats won't get North Korea the attention it craves. Their actions are continuing to further deepen their own isolation, from the international community," Gibbs told reporters.

    "This is the fifth time in 15 years that they've sought to nullify the armistice governing the Korean War," said Gibbs, adding: "I think their actions would be better focused on living up to their rights and obligations."

    The United States and its allies are doing "all that we can" to ensure North Korea is not spreading nuclear know-how, said the spokesman.

    But amid the bluster, Clinton offered a diplomatic olive branch to Pyongyang, leaving open its return to the negotiating table.

    "There will be an opportunity for North Korea to come back into a framework of discussion within the six party process and that we can begin once again to see results from working with the North Koreans toward denuclearization."
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    Published May 28, 2009

    Nothing much can be done about North Korea
    US should get its allies to work on managing Pyongyang's emergence as a nuclear power



    By LEON HADAR
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    NORTH Korea's defiant nuclear test has been condemned by the US and several other governments, including Russia, Japan, the European Union, as well as by China, Pyongyang's closest ally. And it has also prompted calls for more economic sanctions against the regime led by Kim Jong Il.
    Belligerent: A ceremony in Pyongyang on Tuesday to celebrate Monday's underground nuclear test. North Korea, facing a storm of international criticism for its nuclear test, has blamed Washington for creating tensions in the region and claims that the US is preparing an attack on the country.
    An emergency session of the 15-member United Nations Security Council, including the US and China, unanimously condemned the nuclear test on Monday.


    Experts have concluded that the North Korean programme's first nuclear test was a partial failure.


    But Monday's explosion was comparable to the American atomic bombs dropped on Japan during World War II, suggesting that North Korea has a workable nuclear device and in on its way to joining the exclusive club of nuclear powers.


    That development and the possibility that North Korea could put nuclear warheads on its missiles has ignited fear among that nation's neighbours, South Korea and Japan.


    Japanese officials have stated that the North Korean nuclear test poses a threat to its national security. And South Korea has convened a meeting of its National Security Council and put troops along the border on high alert. Seoul and Tokyo would like to see the US leading a renewed international effort to punish Pyongyang.
    But notwithstanding North Korea's current diplomatic and economic isolation, it does not seem that economic sanctions have had any major effect on Pyongyang's behaviour. That has left Washington and its diplomatic partners with very few options in dealing with the nuclear status of North Korea.


    Indeed, Washington has been concerned that a North Korean nuclear test could produce a new nuclear arms race in North Asia, creating pressure on Tokyo and Seoul to also go nuclear in order to deter Pyongyang. That explains why US President Barack Obama reaffirmed on Monday the American commitment to defend South Korea and Japan against any aggression from North Korea.


    'North Korea's actions endanger the people of North-east Asia. They are a blatant violation of international law, and they contradict North Korea's own prior commitments,' Mr Obama said.


    'We will work with our friends and allies to stand up to this behaviour, and we will redouble our efforts towards a more robust international non-proliferation regime that all countries have responsibilities to meet.'


    The Obama administration entered office embracing a more accommodative approach towards Pyongyang than its predecessor, and offering to engage North Korea with high-level talks. But that ended when the North Koreans tested a long-range missile last month.


    And now - in what some experts describe as Mr Obama's most serious national security test since his inauguration as president - the US administration seems to be searching for new ways to force the North Koreans to reverse its nuclear policy, as it is becoming clear that UN sanctions and US efforts to end international financing for North Korea's nuclear programme have failed to deter Pyongyang's plans.


    The only remaining hope in Washington is that China, which has been reluctant to impose the sanctions already in place on North Korea, will decide now to join the US and other governments in a forceful action against North Korea.


    Hence, the conventional wisdom is that China - as the only power with serious diplomatic and economic leverage on North Korean policy - will use it and force Pyongyang to return to the negotiating table in the form of the six-party talks (comprising the US, North Korea, China, Russia, Japan and South Korea) and rejoin the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).


    Among other things, China could put pressure on the North Koreans by threatening to seize the US$2 billion in assets that the North Koreans have in Chinese banks.


    But will China be willing to take such steps, and will they help change North Korean policy?


    In fact, all the indications are that the North Koreans have decided to develop a nuclear military arsenal and that the only option available now to the US and its diplomatic partners (and, in particular, China) is to deal with that reality by ensuring that North Korea does not emerge as a direct threat to Japan and South Korea, and that Pyongyang's nuclear arsenal remains relatively small and that it has little ability to project this force beyond the Korean peninsula.


    Adding to the uncertainly in Washington and other capitals over North Korea's nuclear designs is the seemingly deteriorating health of Kim Jong Il and the speculations that power in Pyongyang will soon be transferred to his 24-year-old son.


    Washington lost its ability to directly influence North Korean policies after ex-president George W Bush decided to reverse the policies of his predecessor Bill Clinton of holding bilateral negotiations with Pyongyang.


    Instead, Mr Bush opted for the long and futile multilateral setting of the six-party talks. Recognising the reality in which the constraints operating on the American military and US diplomacy have reduced its leverage over Pyongyang, Washington should encourage the Chinese to work together with South Korea and Japan in managing - as opposed to ending - the emergence of North Korea as a nuclear power.
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    From The Times

    May 28, 2009
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6374929.ece

    On China's Doorstep

    Beijing's reluctance to act over North Korea will harm its own vital interests



    The seismic and political earthquake set off by North Korea's underground explosion of a nuclear device on Monday has been followed by a series of aftershocks. On Tuesday Pyongyang launched two short-range missiles. Yesterday it launched another and threatened to attack US and South Korean warships. The world's most secretive state is in the midst of some internal convulsion as it defies world opinion and redoubles its efforts to arm itself with nuclear weapons.


    Few countries will be more angered by North Korea's violation of international law, aggressive posturing and mendacious deception of its negotiating partners than China (see opposite page). Not only was the explosion a political snub to the one country that has consistently befriended and underpinned this unloved Stalinist state; it also mocks the Chinese contention that quiet diplomacy is more effective in deflecting Kim Il Sung's regime from its paranoid course than the threats and sanctions of the UN and Western powers.


    China's anger and frustration were plain. On Monday it joined its UN Security Council partners in condemning the nuclear test and urging North Korea to return to the six-power negotiations that it quit last month. The tone and language were in marked contrast to China's reaction to the previous missile launch last month, which was sharply condemned by the UN, a move that served as a pretext for Pyongyang's belligerent assertion that it would take no further part in the six-power talks. At the time China urged calm on all sides, and refused to denounce its neighbour.


    China, however, now appears caught in its own assertive policy of non-interference in the internal policies of other states - a policy that it has pursued while importing oil from Sudan, sheltering Zimbabwe, arming Sri Lanka and bolstering trade with the Burmese junta. It is a policy that has increasingly associated China with the world's more repressive regimes, angered rights campaigners and embarrassed Beijing at spectacular public events such as the Olympics.


    Though the policy has its roots in the tenets of the Non-Aligned Movement, when developing countries attempted to hide their own poor record on freedom and democracy by elevating “non-interference” to a moral principle, Beijing now appears wedded to a dogma that has become little more than a mask for opportunism and self-interest. Its tedious repetition shows that, for all its economic strength, spectacular growth and growing global importance, Beijing does not understand its status as a big power.


    China makes much of its peaceful rise. On the economic front, it is hardly shy in asserting its interests. In encouraging development at home and liberating enterprise and initiative, it has been quick to adapt communist dogma to market reality. But in foreign policy, China appears impotent and bemused. In refusing to accept many of the responsibilities that go with power, it has, however, made a clear choice. Beijing must now ask itself whether this still serves its interest. Unlike other trouble spots, North Korea presents a clear and present danger to China itself: not from military attack, but from the consequences of famine, paranoia and collapse. President Hu Jintao understands this. He is in a position now to change China's ostrich foreign policy and put pressure on Pyongyang. It would be a lasting legacy - to China and to the world.
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    In June 1950, a few months after the announcement of the Beijing-Moscow alliance, the Korean crisis erupted. Early in October, shortly after the South Korean troops crossed the 38th parallel, the CCP made a final decision to enter the Korean War to fight the American-led international forces.
    Mao's Perception of "Inevitability" and the CCP's Preparedness

    Almost as soon as the Americans intervened in Korea and the Seventh Fleet entered the Taiwan Straits at the end of June, 1950, the CCFs long-standing suspicion of and hostility toward the U.S. turned into bellicosity. The Communists were convinced that direct armed struggle with the Americans had become inevitable.

    On June 6, Mao was not in a mood to fight the Americans directly. He told the Party plenum that: "The world front of peace and democracy headed by the Soviet Union is stronger than it was last year... and the liberation movements against imperialist oppression are developing broadly... Although the danger of war from the imperialist camp is still there, so is the possibility of the third world war. The forces which can check the danger of war are increasing rapidly... and a new world war can be checked." [8]

    Based on such an optimistic estimation of the world situation, Mao emphasized China's economic reconstruction and the liberation of Taiwan and Tibet as the Party's urgent tasks. However, Mao's bi-polarized outlook of the postwar world order lay the very foundation for Beijing's particular reaction, of its own choosing, toward the Korean crisis.

    Only three days after Washington decided to intervene in Korea, Beijing shifted its military focus from the Taiwan Straits to Korea. On June 30, the CCP Military Committee informed Xiao Jinguang, commander-in-chief of the CCP navy, that the timing for liberating Taiwan be postponed, and the preparation for encountering the U.S. in Korea took the first priority. [9]

    On July 7, Zhou chaired a meeting of the CCP Military Committee, which decided to form the Northeast Defense Army (NDA) immediately. Su Yu, the CCP general previously responsible for the liberation of Taiwan, was then appointed as the commander of the NDA, which would initially include four infantry armies and three artillery divisions. All of these troops were ordered to complete their gathering in the Manchurian border area by the end of that month. [10]

    The task of the NDA was not to defend the Sino-Korean border, but to take part in the Korean War. From the very beginning, the military training program of the NDA was geared toward fighting the Americans in Korea. [11]

    As early as August 4, when the U.N. forces were still hard-pressed by Kim Il-sung's North Korean armies in the South [12] ,

    Mao stated in a Politburo meeting that if U.S. imperialists gained the upprehend in Korea, they would become cockier, and would further threaten Communist China. Therefore, Mao insisted that Beijing assist their North Korean comrades by sending Chinese volunteers. Although the timing of this could be decided l ater, Mao continued, the preparation for it should be initiated. [13]

    In the same Politburo meeting, Zhou Enlai expressed the same opinion.

    He said that it would be disadvantageous to world peace if the North Koreans were defeated, because the Americans would become more rampant. To achieve victory in Korea, the Chinese factor must be added to the struggle, and that would encourage a change worldwide for the better of the revolutionary forces. [14]

    This theme was repeated in Mao's telegram to Stalin on October 2. Apparently, Beijing did not perceive the necessity of Chinese intervention in Korea only in terms of self-defense of China's border. For the CCP leadership, the result of the Korean crisis would be symbolic. An American victory would mean a major setback of the world revolutionary forces headed by the Soviet Union.

    The rampant reactionary forces headed by the United States would step up their offensive against the world "revolutionary front," as Mao termed it; and Communist China might very well be the next target of the reactionary assault. If concern over U.S. "credibility" was a major factor in Washington's postwar policy making, to establish the "credibility" of new China on behalf of the "revolutionary front" of the world clearly played an important role in Beijing's decision to assist Kim Il-sung. From such a point of view, Mao vigorously pushed for Chinese preparedness.

    On August 5, one day after the above-mentioned Politburo meeting, Mao telegraphed Gao Gang, the Commander and Commissar of the NDA, that "there will probably be no fighting (for the NDA) in August, but (it) should be prepared for combat in early September. Every unit should be ready within this month in order to move to the front to fight." [15]

    To carry out Mao's instructions, Gao called all division commanders to a meeting on August ll, but those who attended believed that it was impossible to be ready and move into Korea during August. Gao telegraphed Mao on August 15, suggesting that the time for sending the NDA to Korea be postponed. On August 18, Mao replied. While being agreeable to Gao's suggestion, he pressed Gao to pick up speed and emphasized that the NDA "must complete all preparations before September 30." [16]

    By the end of August, the situation in Korea appeared gloomy to the Communists. On August 27, Mao felt it necessary to increase the strength of the NDA, and he telegraphed Peng Dehuai proposing that 12 armies be called upon to reinforce the four armies already near the Sino-Korean border. [17]

    In accordance with Mao's idea, Zhou Enlai chaired another military meeting on August 31. The meeting decided that the NDA would be strengthened to include ll armies with 700,000 troops, which would form three echelons with the 13th, 9th and 19th Army Corps in sequence. [18]

    On September 9, the Military Committee ordered the 9th Army Corps in the Shanghai area and the 19th Army Corps in the northwestern area to congregate along the railways, in order to move into Manchurian quickly when they were called upon. [19]

    Before September 1950, the North Koreans were advancing toward the south, and China's border security was not threatened by the Americans. Why was Mao so vigorously pushing for military preparedness to combat the Americans in Korea?

    On the technical level, according to Nie Rongzhen, then the Chinese Chief of Staff, Mao felt in August that although the North Koreans were pushing toward the south, their northern rear was unprotected. The U.S. would not accept defeat and its further excise of naval and air force power might very well disadvantage Kim's forces. Consequently, Mao was pushing for the completion of the Chinese preparations to invade Korea. [20]

    More importantly, on the conceptual level, the CCP leadership was firmly convinced that a direct military confrontation with the U.S. was inevitable; the question was only when and where. Beijing perceived three possible locations in which the Sino-American confrontation might take place: the Taiwan Straits, Vietnam, and Korea.

    The men in Beijing calculated that since the PLA's navy and air force were weak, the Taiwan Straits was not an advantageous choice for them. Vietnam was so far a way that the logistics could be a problem if the PLA was to invade Vietnam to assist Ho Chi Minh's forces. Besides, the French, not the Americans, would be the direct enemy in Vietnam, and Beijing intended to give the United States, not France, a lesson. In comparison, Korea would be the most advantageous location for Beijing to fight U.S. imperialism, because it was close to the Soviet Union, the supplier of the weapons and air cover. [21]

    As Zhou Enlai later stated "The confrontation between U.S. imperialists and us was inevitable; the question was the choice of location. This was (not only) up to the imperialists, we could also determine it. The American imperialists decided (to have this showdown) in the Korean battlefield, this was advantageous to us, and we decided to confront the Americans and assist the Koreans, too. Looking back, it is' understood that everything considered it would have been much more difficult for us if (we had chosen) Vietnam to fight, let alone the off-shore islands (in the Taiwan Straits). [22]

    This indicates again that the formation of the NDA and Mao's push for military preparedness were not for "border security" perse. Because Beijing thought a Sino-American confrontation inevitable, and chose Korea consciously as the battlefield to set the score straight with the Americans, it was only a technical issue for the Chinese to decide the timing for invasion. The time came in October, 1950.
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    The latest North Korean nuclear test was not just a political act. Pyongyang is actively developing its nuclear capabilities. This is the opinion of Dr. Charles M. Perry, which he expressed in an interview with RIA Novosti. Dr. Charles M. Perry is vice president and director of studies at the Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis, Inc., and vice president of National Security Planning Associates, Inc.

    North Korea wants to be accepted as a nuclear power before they seriously do anything to remove those weapons, if they have a word. I’m kind of skeptical. I did support and I still support the six-party process. Now that we don’t have the six-party, the five, including Russia, the United States, Japan, South Korea, and, of course, most importantly China, need to redouble their efforts to bring some pressure. It is becoming very serious in terms of the North developing nuclear capabilities. We are not sure exactly what happened in the test, whether it was full success or not. The nature of the test was more operationally oriented than just a diplomatic bomb to create an effect. The implications are a little bit more serious.

    There was some news coming from Moscow that the explosion would be much larger like 20 kilotons, which I think would be more along the demonstration model, a diplomatic kind of effort. But the fact is it looks like it was not, it was below 10 kilotons, which means it is more of an operational work in progress to create a capability that would in time possibly be a marriage to their missile and in time be of interest to a country or a group that they might choose to transfer things to. So, it comes to the real consequence of it, the real concern. We have to respond, we have to bring some sanctions, some pressure.

    Maybe along this, Bank of Macau type model, the financial pressure that can hurt the leadership a bit more than the people, hopefully. And they did seem to pay attention to that kind of thing in the past. We have to tighten the screws. But, of course, when you tighten the screws, you should worry about what it means in terms of collapse or true isolation to the extent that the North has so little access to economic, financial support from the outside that they have nothing to sell but their nuclear capabilities. And if they really are refining them to the level that al-Qaeda or some other operative might want them.

    In an extreme situation, where they see themselves even more isolated than they are now with traditional, if not allies, supporters like China really coming down hard, they might really then take that next step of exporting, selling their nuclear capability. And that’s the biggest danger from the U.S. prospective, certainly, and I think, broadly in the region, Japan, and the UN community.

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    Analysis: US looking for Russians, Chinese to lead

    By STEVEN R. HURST – 21 hours ago



    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration has tough words for North Korea, but it's looking to China and Russia to do the heavy lifting to punish Pyongyang for its latest nuclear test.

    Whether China is willing to pull away from its traditional ally is an open question given fears of raging instability that might erupt on their common border.

    North Korea may have overplayed its attention-getting hand — or it may be moving its nuclear brinksmanship to a higher and more opaque level.

    Undeterred by international criticism since the underground nuclear explosion Monday, the North has restarted its weapons-grade nuclear power plant and fired its sixth short-range missile in two days, according to news reports.

    The Obama administration's reaction to the nuclear test has been measured. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, said department spokesman Ian Kelly, had been in touch with her Russian counterpart to press for "a quick, unified response to North Korea's provocative action."

    Russia, once a key backer of North Korea, condemned the test. Moscow's U.N. ambassador, Vitaly Churkin, also the Security Council president, said the 15-member body would begin work "quickly" on a new resolution.

    China said it "resolutely opposed" North Korea's test and urged Pyongyang to return to talks on ending its atomic programs.
    While Russian objections to North Korean behavior were swift, direct and important symbolically, China holds the key.

    Cross-border commerce and aid from China keep North Korea afloat economically. China is North Korea's biggest source of food imports, fuel aid and diplomatic support. Many of North Korea's international connections — from air transport to financial links — are also routed through China or Chinese-controlled territories.

    But dramatically shaving its largesse, Beijing is believed to fear, could lead to nightmarish scenarios. One would see regime collapse and a breakdown of North Korea's million-man army, with members of the military armed with AK-47s roaming the Chinese countryside as bandits.

    Complicating the multidimensional chess game, key U.S. allies in Asia — South Korea and Japan — see a fully fledged nuclear North Korea as an existential threat, in much the same way Israel views a nuclear-armed Iran in the Middle East.

    Regional analogies are ofttimes wanting, but in this case it would seem to hold, given that Iran's missile program is believed to be dependent on North Korea.

    "There are those who say that whenever Iran conducts a missile test (as it did recently), the results benefit North Korea and vice versa," said John Park of the U.S. Institute of Peace.

    North Korea's nuclear test forced the Pentagon to scrap much of its planning for a Saturday meeting in Singapore with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and his Japanese and South Korean counterparts.

    "Undoubtedly, the developments in North Korea over the weekend will be a focus of that conversation," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told reporters.

    Morrell said it was believed that the meeting would be the first discussion among the three nations' defense chiefs.

    Those who watch North Korea broadly agree that the country's latest bout of saber-rattling, which started with a long-range missile test in April, grows from an ongoing leadership transition as factions jockey for position to take power from the ailing Kim Jong Il.

    While Obama came to office offering to talk with the North Koreans about their nuclear program, the only answer has been belligerence — in the form of missile and nuclear tests. That would seem to make it clear that, at this point, Pyongyang does not feel the United States has anything to offer.

    China does and North Korea, one of the most heavily sanctioned and isolated nations on the globe, knows it.

    "The North must feel now that they have overplayed their hand, given the reaction of the Russians and Chinese," said Ved Nanda, a professor at the University of Denver.

    But it is far from certain the Chinese will match their recent condemnation of the North with a decision to order a punishing curtailment of assistance.

    To Park, the signs are China is "really taking a longer term view as a hedge against whomever emerges" to lead North Korea after Kim. "That way they really can avoid those things they really don't want to think about," he said, such as a collapse of the Pyongyang regime and the chaos that might entail — not to mention the possibility of a major shift in the regional balance of power.

    While North Korea has made itself an even more difficult friend for China, the U.S. has few incentives that would make it more appetizing for Beijing to open a public rift with one of world's few remaining communist regimes, one that could create immeasurable problems inside China itself.

    EDITOR'S NOTE _ Steven R. Hurst reports from the White House and has covered international affairs for 30 years.

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    North Korea reportedly used the South Korean acceptane / commitment to stop North Korean ships to look for WMD as the "final straw" to withdraw from the 1953 Armistice.

    The Korean War, now in its 59th year, threatens to change its appearance.

    It seems to me, that because the North had renounced or rescinded its participation or acceptance of the Armistice, that it is now perfectly "legal" for South Korea and its allies to do "whatever it wants."

    Thus--and be quick to point me out as being in error--the rescinding of the Armistice (which, in effect, declares resumption of "hot" hostilities) allows for the following to be legal under the articles of war:

    1. Interdiction of North Korean naval vessels, to include seizure and sinking of said vessels.

    2. Overflights of North Korean air space, to include tactical strikes against those facilities and troops deemed a threat.

    3. Both covert and overt insertions into NK territory by allied troops and weaponry.

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    It seems to me that the North Korean propaganda planners really stepped on their collective knob on this one. They did not think completely through the ramifications of their decision.

    1. They may be gambling on the American response not to engage in a resumption of a full-scale war by firing the first shot. As long as the NK does not fire the first shot (their definition of such being quite different from what you and I would regard as being the "first shot") the South Koreans and its allies will just suffer through another barrage of words.

    2. They feel that they have both the Russian support and the PRC support in their back pockets, and should they be attacked by SK and its allies, Russia and the PRC will come running to their aid. The world politik has come a long ways since the 1950's (as Vector pointed out), whereby much has been gained on both sides of the political fence through more peaceful arrangements, accompanied by low-profile conflicts. All-out war, including the exchange of nukes, gains nothing but a charred Earth. Reality should reflect what is happening currently, that Russia, the PRC, and others who have at least a small heartburn against the "West" are condemning NK for its unilateral actions, which should equate to a big slap in the face (and I mean that both literally and figuratively, given the Oriental's concept of the importance of "face").

    That the PRC would step forward and help discipline the world's most truculent child, in my opinion, is quite healthy. After all, we are talking about China's doorstep. It would be in both China's front door and back door where the suggested nuclear exchange would take place. Having clouds of radiated dust from the east, nuclear-tipped missiles flying over its own airspace to strike the Middle East, and clouds of radiated dust from the west is no slice of heaven: it would be a nightmare of a scenario that would make Chernobyl and child's outing on the beach.

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    U.N. command rejects N. Korean nullification of Korean War truce

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    SEOUL, May 28 (Yonhap) -- The U.S.-led United Nations Command in South Korea on Thursday rejected the claim by North Korea that it is no longer bound by the truce that halted war on the Korean Peninsula.

    "The armistice remains in force and is binding on all signatories, including North Korea," it said in a release, one day after Pyongyang declared it "will not be bound" to the 1953 deal that ended the three-year Korean War.

    "The armistice has served as the legal basis for the ceasefire in Korea for over 55 years," an unidentified U.N. Command spokesman said in the statement. "The U.N Command will adhere to the terms of the armistice and the mechanisms that support it."

    Tension runs high on the divided peninsula after North Korea carried out its second nuclear test Monday and fired a series of short-range missiles off its east coast.

    The country, which conducted its first underground atomic test in October 2006, has also threatened the safety of U.S. and South Korean naval vessels near the Yellow Sea border.

    The U.S. has 28,500 troops stationed here as a deterrent against North Korea. It fought on the South Korean side under the U.N. command in the Korean War.

    The series of North Korean threats prompted the U.S. and South Korea to raise their military surveillance on Thursday of the communist state to the second highest level for the first time since 2006.

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    North Korea reportedly used the South Korean acceptane / commitment to stop North Korean ships to look for WMD as the "final straw" to withdraw from the 1953 Armistice.

    The Korean War, now in its 59th year, threatens to change its appearance.

    It seems to me, that because the North had renounced or rescinded its participation or acceptance of the Armistice, that it is now perfectly "legal" for South Korea and its allies to do "whatever it wants."

    Thus--and be quick to point me out as being in error--the rescinding of the Armistice (which, in effect, declares resumption of "hot" hostilities) allows for the following to be legal under the articles of war:

    1. Interdiction of North Korean naval vessels, to include seizure and sinking of said vessels.

    2. Overflights of North Korean air space, to include tactical strikes against those facilities and troops deemed a threat.

    3. Both covert and overt insertions into NK territory by allied troops and weaponry.
    Have to agree with you (wow twice in one work week, Wallis, what in the HELL is the world coming to? )

    I agree completely with your assessment - not that I'm an expert on this or anything, but by nullifying the armistice they have basically opened themselves up to fighting again. So, pretty much anything goes.

    MY thinking is this was a deliberate action on their part to entice someone to "do something" to escalate the issue even further.

    -------

    It seems to me that the North Korean propaganda planners really stepped on their collective knob on this one. They did not think completely through the ramifications of their decision.


    1. They may be gambling on the American response not to engage in a resumption of a full-scale war by firing the first shot. As long as the NK does not fire the first shot (their definition of such being quite different from what you and I would regard as being the "first shot") the South Koreans and its allies will just suffer through another barrage of words.
    I think they are gambling the opposite - that we WILL engage them so they can test us.

    2. They feel that they have both the Russian support and the PRC support in their back pockets, and should they be attacked by SK and its allies, Russia and the PRC will come running to their aid. The world politik has come a long ways since the 1950's (as Vector pointed out), whereby much has been gained on both sides of the political fence through more peaceful arrangements, accompanied by low-profile conflicts. All-out war, including the exchange of nukes, gains nothing but a charred Earth. Reality should reflect what is happening currently, that Russia, the PRC, and others who have at least a small heartburn against the "West" are condemning NK for its unilateral actions, which should equate to a big slap in the face (and I mean that both literally and figuratively, given the Oriental's concept of the importance of "face").
    Technically, the Russians, NOT the Chinese helped create the DPRK. China has connections simply due regional placement and of course 'racial' issues.

    That the PRC would step forward and help discipline the world's most truculent child, in my opinion, is quite healthy. After all, we are talking about China's doorstep. It would be in both China's front door and back door where the suggested nuclear exchange would take place. Having clouds of radiated dust from the east, nuclear-tipped missiles flying over its own airspace to strike the Middle East, and clouds of radiated dust from the west is no slice of heaven: it would be a nightmare of a scenario that would make Chernobyl and child's outing on the beach.
    Taken at face value - this seems good and normal, as it should. Taken as it really is, China does NOT want to see North Korea collapse and as a couple of different authors have pointed out, China will accept a nuclear North Korea in lieu of a collapse of North Korea.

    On the other hand - I don't foresee North Korea launching missiles toward the ME (I think that is what you meant?)

    I DO see them launching them to the east toward Japan though, and to the Sea out there where American vessels might be hanging out.
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    One needs to be deaf, blind, and an idiot at this time in order not to understand that the nuclear bomb tested in North Korea two days ago also exploded in the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem.

    The North Koreans blatantly disregarded the Americans and publically presented them as a meaningless power, yet officials in Jerusalem are still reciting the “Road Map” and making note of the evacuation of some minor West Bank outpost. The world is changing before our eyes, yet here we see Knesset members earnestly explaining that the Americans will agree that we stay in Judea and Samaria if we only evacuate some tin shacks.

    Two days ago, in North Korea, World War III officially got underway – the war that would pit “crazy” states such as North Korea and Iran, for example, against states we shall characterize as “moderate,” including Egypt, Gulf states, and Saudi Arabia, which at this time leads the Arab initiative for peace with Israel.

    Ever since Sunday, the world has gone crazy, and this crazy world is monitoring with horror the struggle between the “moderate” and “crazy” states. The problem is that some of those crazy states – Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea – already have, or will have, a nuclear button to push, while the moderates, headed by the United States, are not eager to rush into battle.

    Why? Because America is already entangled in wars, and there was someone who recently won the presidential elections there, among other reasons because he pledged to remove US troops from the Iraqi and Afghani quagmire. That same president promised that we shall live in a world free of nuclear weapons. Remember that?

    A Gordian knot

    This is the same North Korea that spat in America’s face three years ago, and this week it did it again. Based on the reactions in Washington (unless they are part of a deception campaign,) it doesn’t appear that the great America will respond. Now all we need is for Iran to blatantly disregard America and Israel in order to prompt us to slide into real emergency turmoil (as opposed to the drill planned for the coming days.)

    Iran is here already. There is a direct and intimate link between the Korean bomb and the planned Iranian bomb; between Iran’s and North Korea’s spit in America’s face, Washington’s desire and ability to lead the fight against the crazy world, and the Israeli government’s conduct.

    One does not need to be a supporter or rival of the settlement enterprise in the territories to understand this Gordian knot – and the question is whether we want the American sword to undo it for us.

    If the answer is positive, we need to be familiar with the Americans to realize that three tin huts removed from the Maoz Ester outpost are not good enough.

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    like overripe fruit into our hands."



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