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    Oh, yes, Obama prays all right:


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    WITH THE MUSLIMS!!

    This is OUR President at a MOSQUE prayer session LAST WEEK AT THE WHITE HOUSE, on the site where the INAUGURATION is held every 4 years!

    He canceled OUR CHRISTIAN "NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER"...Now...THIS.
    For Obama to continue as our president is an INSULT TO OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!

    If you question the impact of the above picture, get a copy of the book The Sword of the Prophet by Serge Trifkovic. It is well researched, documented and highly trustworthy.

    Anyone who believes that 'Islam is NOT a major threat to our freedom and country' has their head in the sand. This includes Obama himself.

    Excerpt from the book: "the broad sweep of the global military, political, moral, and — yes — spiritual struggle that faces us; and what we must do if we wish to survive. Above all, we must avoid the twin perils of complacency and despair, and for that a sober, factual, and contextual presentation like that found in Trifkovic's work is essential. Every American owes it to himself to know the real score of the post-9/11 world — and this slim but invaluable volume is the place to start
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    Enter Serge Trifkovic, a man of extraordinary intellectual courage. His book, THE SWORD OF THE PROPHET" departs from the moral “neutrality” of academia and, in six lucid and well-documented chapters, provides a “Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam.” Citing the Kuran and the voluminous Hadiths - the Traditions of what Muhammad said and did - Dr. Trifkovic exposes Islam's prophet as cruel, ignorant, and lascivious. He examines Islam's fatalistic theology; reviews this religion's devastation of other civilizations; warns of the Muslims' insidious penetration of America and Europe; criticizes U.S. appeasement of Saudi Arabia and other Islamic regimes; and goes to the heart of what must be done to prevent Islam's global ascendancy.

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    Obama Chooses Christmas Eve as Night of Darkness For Free World

    By Judi McLeod Wednesday, December 23, 2009



    There may be an ornament with the face of China’s evil Mao Zedong on the White House holiday tree, but for many of the rest of us there’s an elephant right in our living room.

    The elephant in our living room is what moseyed in when the mainstream media took a holiday and the mask of President Barack Obama began to crack. How long have we known in our hearts that Obama is not an American? How long have we known that even though he professes to be one, Obama is not a Christian, nor even a Christian sympathizer and that his actions over the last year prove he is not a benevolent president.

    Obama wants a healthcare bill that is signed, sealed and delivered on Christmas Eve. Obama wants to ruin America and the Free Enterprise system that made America what it is.

    Personal records are required to establish the legal identity of every human being on Planet Earth, but Obama’s ID was sealed off from public view before he was sworn in as the 44th President of the USA. In the reality that follows such a move, Obama could be anything. He’s the antithesis of what tens of millions of main-street Americans expect in a president. Obama is proving to be the worst enemy imaginable. Since September 11, 2001 for America and its freedom loving supporters worldwide, worst enemy could be defined as radical Muslim.

    Back in March 2006 Canada Free Press (CFP) asked in a cover story, “How does a senator who came from out of the fog land himself front and center on the pages of USA Today, where he’s touted as “the new face of change and reform for the democratic party?”

    CFP’s cover story went on to say, “Move over, Hillary, Barack Obama is here.

    “Some Dems can trump Material Girl Madonna in reinventing themselves. During the last presidential campaign, John Kerry made much of having the same initials as President JFK.

    “Barack Hussein Obama’s name only rhymes with Saddam Hussein and Osama, but he did try to parallel the life of President Abraham Lincoln with that of his own—and did it in the mainstream media.

    “As Gateway Pundit aptly points out, “Lincoln was a humble man. He did not compare himself after six months in office to great men from history.”
    Three years later Obama went on to win the Nobel Peace Prize after only 11 days in the office of president.

    But back in March 2006, CFP pondered, “Without the media, could Barack Obama have discovered the fast track to fame?
    “Looking at his day job, the Senator from Illinois is a senior lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Make that the Rockefeller-funded U of C, a school that is Rockefeller down to the bone.

    “Obama’s Dad, a Muslim from Kenya, left home when he was two. His Mom remarried and went with her new husband to Indonesia where Obama lived during his salad years. It is well known that Obama, the teenager lived with his grandparents in Hawaii, where he attended the same school attended by Hawaii royalty. Yet little is known about who Obama’s stepfather was. But some say that he was an Indonesian national and a Muslim.

    “Still, Obama must have attended school in Indonesia. Is it possible that as a young Muslim boy he went to a Saudi Madras?
    “Yes, that’s a possibility.

    “The chapters in the Life and Times of Barack Obama always race ahead. It was during one of those chapters when we found him taking up community organizing in the Altgeld Gardens housing project on the south side of Chicago, when he converted to Christianity, formerly being secular. (brainsip.com—Now can only be searched in wayback machine).

    “As a fledgling Christian, Obama didn’t join just any church. He joined the United Church of Christ.

    “The United Church of Christ is very anti-Israel and supports divestment. It also sponsors speeches at its many functions by the Arab “Christian” pro-terror religious organization, Sabeel. Sabeel holds some of its biggest meetings in Chicago., (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0510/S00139.htm).

    “The Democrats attract the majority of Jewish voters and funding, and this guy is being groomed as their golden boy?

    “Essentially Obama is a Christian convert—but also then a Muslim apostate.

    “The “What If” category of “the new face of change and reform for the democratic party” doesn’t get written up by the mainstream media.

    “What if Obama is engaged in pious fraud? This is a Muslim practice of pretending not to be Muslim to further the cause of Islam or to “defend the faith”. He becomes President and then says, “Gee…I think I want to be Muslim again” after he finds the “football” in his hands that carries the launch codes for the USA nuke forces.

    “Is the “New Face” theory espoused in USA Today, New Face as in the “Portrait of Dorian Grey”?

    “What if Obama’s into Pious Fraud Islam–Hudaibiyah treaty"kiss the hand of your enemy until you can cut it off”? (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/708295/posts).

    Not Obama?

    Remember the pictures of the little kids bobbing their heads up and down at the Madrases? They are all of the age Obama would have been in back in Indonesia.

    “What if the converted-to-Christianity Barack Obama decides to exercise his right to revert back?

    “President George Bush converted to Methodism and Justice Thomas converted to Catholicism and Jeb Bush did as well.
    “Then what?

    “Currently, Obama is an apostate as far as Islam is concerned. This is a fact and not a conspiracy theory. They say all babies are born Muslim but then parents of infidel religions brainwash the baby Muslims into other lesser faiths. That is a fact.

    “What must be done with an apostate of the Muslim faith? Give him a chance to convert back to Islam.
    “Obama is soft on the handover of the ports to Dubai.

    “Obama’s Mom met his step Dad at the East-West Center of the University of Hawaii. The Center gets money from Bill Gates, the Rockefellers and, of course the United Nations.

    “Obama went to Occidental college, whose motto is “West is nearest to the East”.

    “Occidental College has a historic connection to the Summer Institute of Linguistics (now known as SIL International.) Associated with the Rockefellers, SIL has something going on in Dubai (http://www.finanz-adressen.de/asien/UAE-info.html, Now can only be searched in wayback machine) Scroll down three quarters of the way until you see their blinking pyramid logo.

    “Meanwhile hype notwithstanding, “the new face of change and reform for the democratic party” is no Abe Lincoln, but could be the most upwardly mobile Muslim of the millennium.”
    It will be four years ago this March when these questions were being asked by CFP.

    The elephant in our living room has been sitting there all that time. But at 9 o’clock on Christmas Eve, Obama, the Christian, will pull a dark curtain down on the Free World.

    On Christmas Eve, the elephant’s trumpet will sound very much like the camel’s bellow.

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    Something just does not seem right......

    Very interesting way of looking at the actions of Obama.

    Sheppard Smith, Fox News.

    "If you check President Obama's last trip over-seas, his wife left just after their visit to France. She has yet to accompany him to any Arab country. Think about it. Why is Michelle returning to the states when 'official' trips to foreign countries generally include the First Lady."

    Here's one thought on the matter.

    While in a Blockbuster renting videos I came across a video called "Obama".

    There were two men standing next to me and we talked about President Obama.

    These guys were Arabs, so I asked them why they thought Michele Obama headed home following the President's recent visit to France instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband.

    They told me she could not go to Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Iraq .

    I said "Why not,(?) Laura Bush went to Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Dubai."

    They said that Obama is a Muslim and therefore he is not allowed to bring his wife into countries that adhere to Sharia Law.

    Two points of interest here:

    1) I thought it interesting that two American Arabs at Blockbuster believe that our President is a Muslim,

    2)who follows a strict Islamic creed. They also said that's the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia. It was a signal to the Muslim world,
    acknowledging his religion.


    For further consideration, here is a response from Dr. Jim Murk, a Middle
    Eastern Scholar and expert on Islam. This is his explanation of what the
    Arab American's were saying.

    "An orthodox Muslim man would never take his wife on a politically oriented trip to any nation which practices Sharia law, particularly Saudi Arabia where the Wahhabi sect is dominant.

    This is true and it is why Obama left Michelle in Europe. She will stay home when he visits Arab countries.

    He knows Muslim protocol; this includes, bowing to the Saudi King. Obama is regarded as a Muslim in the Arab world,because he was born to a Muslim father; he acknowledged his Muslim faith with George Stephanopoulus.


    Note that he downplays his involvement with Christianity, by not publicly joining a Christian church in D.C. and occasionally attending the chapel for services at Camp David.

    He also played down the fact that America is a Christian country and said, unbelievably, that it was one of the largest Muslim nations in the world, which is nonsense.


    He has publicly taken the side of the Palestinians in the conflict with Israel
    and he ignored the National Day of Prayer, something no other President has ever done.

    He is bad news! He conceals his true faith to the detriment of the American people." --- Jim Murk, Doctor of Philosophy in Middle Eastern Culture & Religion.

    ACTIONS speak louder than words.

    Another interesting item regarding Sharia Law..

    Why has Barack Hussein Obama insisted that the U.S. Attorney General hold the trials of the 911 Muslim Terrorists in Civilian Courts as Common Criminals instead of as Terrorists who attacked the United States of America?

    If the Muslim Terrorists are tried in Military Tribunals, convicted and sentenced to death, by LAW, Barack Hussein Obama, as President of the United States, would be required to sign their Death Warrants.

    He would not be required to sign the death warrants if they are sentenced to death by a Civilian Court. Recently, Muslim Jihadist, Army Major Hassan slaughtered non-Muslim, soldiers at Ft. Hood, Texas rather than go to Afghanistan and be a part of anything that could lead to the deaths of fellow Muslims. He stated that Muslims 'could not and should not kill fellow Muslims.'

    Is the motive for Barack Hussein Obama's insistence on civilian trials, to make sure he doesn't have to sign the death warrants for the Muslim Terrorists?

    Why would he, as President of the United States, not sign the death warrants for Muslim Terrorists who attacked the United States and murdered over 3,000 U. S. Citizens on 9/11?

    Could it be that he is FORBIDDEN by his RELIGION to authorize the execution of Muslims?

    Think about that! Open your eyes, ears and mind to who the President is, how he behaves and what he is doing.

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    Well... well... "in confidence" huh?

    LOL

    So much for honor among thieves.
    Libertatem Prius!


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    Did President Obama tell this during electoral campain?
    Did he tell:"I am a Muslin."

    (I am not so informed about American politics.)


    1)Yes he did...then no problem.

    He did not, he emphatically said he was a Christian.


    (Why is there no problem?Because...well it is a long story but to make it short:
    I am working with contractors,some of them are muslims,is this a problem for me?

    No;there is a job to do and if they do the job i dont care if they are Muslims,Russians,Aliens whatever!

    They honestly say to me:"Know what? We are Muslims."
    I say:"What is the problem?"

    The key word here is "HONESTLY".


    2)No he hide this info...then there is a little problem.
    After the events of 911 this became a game changer for America. No longer could we look at Islamic terror as something that happens elsewhere.

    As we begin to examine the events that have happened over the last year there is a growing trend becoming more apparent.





    A brief overview of
    Some Disturbing Patterns




    When the Obama Administration took over in January 2009 his DHS team quietly began writing their new terror threat assessment documents re-directing the war on terror to domestic right wing extremism threats.

    The Fort Hood Shooter Nidal Hasan, is alleged to be apart of Obama's "transition team" on the DHS task force.

    In January of 2009
    Obama works to release a Muslim terrorists in custody

    In March of 2009 the MIAC Report surfaced.

    In early April 2009
    Obama Bans Terms "Islam" and "Jihad" From National Security Strategy Documents.

    In April 2009 the
    FBI begins 3-month long hiring blitz in 21 States, DC including Puerto Rico focusing on filling new roles in the field with Islamic Muslims. This was followed by the official release of the 2nd DHS Domestic Extremist Report in the same month.

    In May 2009
    Obama Calls Halt To Bush 'War On Terror'.

    In June of 2009 the Muslim Little Rock Recruiting Station Shooting was swept under the rug by the Obama Administration.

    In July 2009 Obama Appoints 2 Devout Muslims to Homeland Security Posts.

    In October 2010 Obama swears in another radical Muslim to Homeland Security Post

    Some time leading up to the shooting probably in late Summer to Fall 2009 officials were aware of Nidal Hasan efforts to Contact al Qaeda in addition he told US military colleagues that infidels should have their throats cut
    .

    The Fort Worth Shooting happens on November 5th 2009 and 13 people are murdered in the name of Islam but
    Obama Urges Congress To Put Off Probe and even nixed the Ft. Hood Probe

    Just before Christmas
    Five Muslim Soldiers Arrested at Fort Jackson in South Carolina suspected of trying to poison the food supply at the base but the story is suppressed until February 18th 2010, the day Joe Stack flew his plane into the FBI building in Austin
    .

    Then on Christmas day the Underwear bomber
    Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab
    got aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 with help and Obama officials knew he was on plane heading for Detroit and did nothing.

    When he was caught he was served Miranda Rights.

    After this incident they started rolling out Airport X-Ray Scanners and the TSA became the Gestapo:









    All of these terrorist attacks have a common link of cover up within the Obama Administration and are connected to Yemen cleric's Farouk Abdulmutallab and Anwar Ak-Awlaki.

    Obama Administration seeks to dismiss al-Awlaki lawsuit

    Then in a major diversionary tactic in April 2010 the
    DHS/FBI/JATF Raids In MI and OH commenced with every major network on the war path for Right Wing Terror suspects chanting OKC and McVeigh gleaning little more than conspiracy to sedition.



    Leading up to the Times Square bombing attempt the
    Obama Administration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Terror Surveillance List.

    Obama Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

    New Obama Interrogation Unit Not Deployed to Question Captured Taliban Chief


    In October 2010 Muslim Man convicted in Mass Transit Attack Plots

    In November 2010 Car Bomb Plot by Muslim Man at US Christmas Tree Ceremony Thwarted


    In December 2010 Authorities in Maryland arrest Muslim man in alleged truck bomb plot

    In the same month however Under Obama and Holder Gitmo Detainee Cleared of All but One Charge


    In January 2011 Somali Muslim sends terror message at food plant: “All Americans must die”


    In February 2011 Under Obama's watch the trainer of the 7/7 bomber goes free

    But Napolitano: No "Logic" In Profiling Muslim Men Under The Age Of 35

    Then DHS Can’t Account for 10 Libyan Men It Caught and Released Inside U.S.

    In March 2011 Muslim Terrorist Dry Runs?


    In June and July 2011 Muslim suspect in Seattle Military Recruiting Station Plot Allegedly Wanted Another Fort Hood and Second Fort Hood Attack Plot

    In October 2011 Mid-air terror as Saudi student is wrestled from cabin after trying to open door
    and on another flight Muslim Passenger Shouts: 'You're all going to die' and then 2 Muslim Minnesota women guilty of aiding Somali terror group


    In December 2011 Obama Administration Calling Fort Hood Massacre 'Workplace Violence'


    The Left Wing faction of this current administration is not just limited to one person but is a much larger machine that encompasses much of the Democratic Party and possibly some hidden progressives elsewhere.

    Why would the President of the United States:

    1.
    President Obama seeks Russia deal to slash nuclear weapons.

    2. The Obama Administration gives both
    Russia and China access to our nuclear sites.

    3.
    Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms.

    4. The Obama administration
    Declares Size of Nuclear Arsenal.

    5.
    Obama and Gates on a path to Gut the Military.

    6. The Obama Administration
    Obama Betrays Poland On 70th Anniversary Of Soviet Invasion.

    7.
    Pro West Polish Government Leadership All Killed in Crash and not a question raised out of the Obama Administration.

    8. One Month before the Gulf Oil Crisis Obama Surrenders Gulf Oil to Moscow

    9.
    Obama opens the door for Russia to join NATO


    10.
    Obama says U.S. will support Russia's WTO bid


    There is no mystery this administration considers Conservatives a threat.


    This Administration has been carefully documenting who is in their sights for over a year. They have a huge Left wing socialist media doing the polling and cheer leading to help demonize and curb public opinion.

    This administration has shown:

    1. To be sympathetic to Radical Muslims possibly
    trained by KGB forces.

    2. Attorney general to classify Pro-life, Pro-gun Americans as terrorists.

    3. Any who speak out find themselves on
    The Growing List Allegedly Committing Sedition Against U.S. Government.

    4. Demonetization of all Constitutionalists and the Tea Party Movement including Oath Keepers.


    If Obama is a Muslim this could explain some of his behavior, but more evidence is emerging that shows a possibly more sinister method to his operation.

    He also has alleged ties to Bill Ayers:


    Some have said that
    Bill Ayers is more than just an acquaintance of Obama and has been in contact with him while in the White House and has been rumored to closer ties. Bill Ayers claims to have ghost wrote Obama’s book Dreams of My Father.

    Larry Grathwohl
    an FBI undercover agent exposed what Bill Ayers and the Weathermen Underground intended to do after overthrowing government as we know it and allow both Russia, China and their allies to occupy parts of the United States. Their looming concern was how to deal with the Americans who refuse to embrace their version of government. Here is the audio clip outlining this.

    This combination with a radical Leftist revolutionary in his own words "to fundamentally transform America" is more than just conspiracy but a visible pattern of Marxism within this administration to fundamentally transform this Nation's freedoms forever.




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    FeelTheChangeMedia — August 07, 2009 — Obama admits that he is a Muslim. Obama bowing before a Muslim king. Obama talking about his Muslim family. Obama quoting from the Koran. Obama defending Islam. Obama visiting a Mosque. And many more clips of Obama and his Muslim connections. Legal Disclaimer: The writers, producers, and editors of this video are not claiming or implying that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim, or that Obama said he was a Muslim, rather they are only examining the evidence surrounding the rumor that Barack Hussein Obama might be a secret Muslim.



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    Excellent job of putting this topic together. Just my humble opinion but Obama is a POS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Segestan View Post
    Excellent job of putting this topic together. Just my humble opinion but Obama is a POS.

    Thanks Segestan,
    There is a lot of troubling pieces of details emerging everyday out of this administration that need to be carefully examined.

    Egyptian minister: Obama told me he is a Muslim

    Obama told me he is still a Muslim, who supports the Muslim agenda.



    Very few media has picked up what Egypt Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said on Nile-TV in regards to Obama confirming he is a Muslim.

    This was a statement by Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit on Nile-TV. It was made on the «Round table show».

    This is the statement recorded:

    Adul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, where the US President told him that He was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the step son of Muslim stepfather, that his half brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and that he was sympatetic towards the Muslim agenda.

    Adul Gheit claimed Obama told the Arabs to show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic issues, like the Health care reform, he would show the Muslim World how to deal with Israel.
    Source: Israeli magazine, Israel today.

    My comment:
    Few American and International media seems to be covering this news event in Egypt.

    I wounder why?

    Are they embarrassed that the American voters have been fooled to vote a Muslim into the seat of the Commander in Chief of United States of America?

    Or have the Obama Administration been able to convince the press, that this media story from Egypt is false?


    Under any circumstances, the Obama Hussein Administration has shown us that they favor the Islamic World.

    The word «Islamic Terrorism» is now deleted form the vocabulary in the US. Islam shall from now on only be presented to the American public as a religion of peace.

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    Furthermore, it's not that the Egyptian Minister was trying to sabotage Obama by outing him as a Moslem, but he is trying to get Obama to declare openly sooner than later. He wants Obama as a open Moslem to demoralize non-moslems, and every nonmoslem would be so to a degree unparalleled in history.

    Wouldn't demoralize America one bit. We'd kick his ass out of office and put someone else in.

    Period.

    Muslims living in America, you're on notice.

    Either you are an AMERICAN or you're NOT. Islam isn't a "religion" and that's the problem it's a political stance.

    No other religion in the world institutes political rules as Islam does.

    The way to FIGHT against this crap is simply make them declare allegiance to the United States. if not, kick them out or remove their citizenship.

    Either YOU ARE an AMERICAN or you're NOT.

    If you claim to be a Muslim, and follow Islam, then I daresay you don't belong in the United States any more.

    Don't like what I have to say? Tough shit.

    I have as much right to say what I believe as anyone.

    Want to call it "Hate Speech"? Good, do it, I dare you. I'll show you what "hate" is.
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    Obama to host Ramadan meal

    By Elise Viebeck - 08/13/10 08:36 AM ET



    President Obama will host an iftar — the special evening meal observed during Ramadan — on Friday night in the White House dining room.

    Obama participated in a similar gathering last year.

    Celebrations like iftar dinners "remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings," Obama wrote in a statement Wednesday.

    "Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality ... a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country."

    The dinner comes amid a growing controversy over the proposed construction of an Islamic cultural center in downtown Manhattan, near the site of the World Trade Center. A CNN poll released Wednesday found that 68 percent of the public opposes the project.

    Meanwhile, the White House — which has made great efforts to reach out to the Muslim community — has been silent on the issue.

    "This is rightly a matter for New York City and the local community to decide," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters on Aug. 3.

    Ramadan began on Wednesday and will end around Sept. 10.

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    PRESIDENT OBAMA’S RAMADAN GREETING: “ISLAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF AMERICA”



    MOHAMMEDANS ON THE MAYFLOWER?

    MUSLIMS AT JAMESTOWN?

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    And Yaakov Pastorius

    To commemorate the onset of Ramadan, President Barack Hussein Obama issued this statement:

    “Ramadan is a time when Muslims around the world reflect upon the wisdom and guidance that comes with faith, and the responsibility that human beings have to one another, and to God.

    “This is a time when families gather, friends host Iftars, and meals are shared. But Ramadan is also a time of intense devotion and reflection – a time when Muslims fast during the day and pray during the night; when Muslims provide support to others to advance opportunity and prosperity for people everywhere.

    “For all of us must remember that the world we want to build – and the changes that we want to make – must begin in our own hearts, and our own communities.

    “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.

    “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality.

    “And here in the United States, Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country.


    “And today, I want to extend my best wishes to the 1.5 billion Muslims around the world – and your families and friends – as you welcome the beginning of Ramadan.”

    Islam has always been part of America???

    Sorry, Mr. Obama, but there were no Muslims among the passengers on the Mayflower or the settlers at Jamestown. Muslims were conspicuously absent from the ranks of George Washington’s Army of the Revolution and played no role in the creation of the American republic – - save for the fact that the new country’s first declaration of war was against the forces of Islam in the form of the Barbary pirates.1

    Despite popular folklore, few Muslims numbered among the 12 million black Africans who were shipped to the New World from the 17th to 19th centuries. The Muslims, in fact, were not the slaves but the slave traders. Senegalese educator Amadou-Mahtar M’Bow has written that in 1587 a shipload of Moriscos (Spanish Moors) landed in a coastal area of South Carolina. The Moors, he contends, migrated to the mountains of eastern Tennessee and western North Carolina where they established colonies.2

    In reality, this is pure speculation. There is not a scintilla of archival or archaeological evidence to support this claim.

    This is not to say that no Muslim slaves were transported to the colonies. Two such slaves – - Ayuiba Suleiman Diallo and Omar ibn Said – - were brought to America is 1731 but both were returned to Africa in 1734.3

    In a Herculean effort to materialize at least one Muslim living in America before the Civil War, Muslims in America, an Islamic website, point to the name of Mahomet, the great grandson of Uncas, the founder of the Mohegan tribe, on a gravestone in Norwich, Connecticut.4

    The name of this Native America, they argue, resembles that of the prophet, and, therefore, he must have been a convert to Islam. In a similar example of straining at gnats, the compilers of The Collections and Stories of American Muslims, a non-profit organization, claim that Peter Salem, a former slave who fought at the Battle of Bunker Hill, must have been a Muslim since “Salem” bears an etymological resemblance to “Salaam,” the Arabic word for peace.5

    For additional proof, the compilers turn to folklore, such as the story of Old Tom, a slave at a plantation in Georgia, who allegedly uttered, “Allah is God and Mohammed his Prophet” on his death-bed – - and the apocryphal tale of “Old Lizzy,” a slave from Edgefield County, who reportedly said, “Christ built His first church in Mecca.”6

    Surprisingly, there is no record of any Islamic American among the enlisted and conscripted forces of World War I, let alone among the blue and grey armies of the Civil War.

    The great migrations that lasted from 1865 to 1925 brought 35,000,000 people to the New World: 4,500,000 from Ireland, 4,000,000 from Great Britain, 6,000,000 from central Europe, 2,000,000 from the Scandinavian countries, 5,000,000 from Italy, 8,000,000 from Eastern Europe, and 3,000,000 from the Balkans.

    But the number of Muslims who came here from the Middle East was statistically nil.7

    In 1960, aside from the temples of the Nation of Islam, the only mosques in the United States were in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Dearborn, Michigan, and Washington DC (which opened in 1957) – - and all three professed less than 200 active members. Four other cities contained miniature mosques with less than fifty members.8


    Thomas Jefferson did possess a copy of the Koran which Keith Ellison, America’s first Muslim Congressman, used to make his oath of office.

    But what was Jefferson opinion of Islam?

    Did he believe the Muslim religion represented a salubrious influence in world affairs?

    Far from it.

    In 1786 Thomas Jefferson, then US ambassador to France, and John Adams, then US Ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the Dey’s ambassador to Britain, in an attempt to negotiate a peace treaty with the Barbary Pirates based on Congress’ vote of funding.

    To the US Congress these two future Presidents later reported the reasons for the Muslims’ hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

    ”…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

    Jefferson had it right.

    Mr. Obama has it wrong.

    Islam is only beginning to become part of America.


    1 Michael B. Oren, Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East, 1776 to the Present (New York” W. W. Norton & Company, 2007), pp. 17-40.


    2 Amadou-Mahtar M’Bow, cited in M. M. Ali’s “Muslims in America,” The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, May/June 1996.

    3 Melton J. Gordon, Islam in North America: A Sourcebook (New York: Garland Publishing, 1992), pp. 26-27.

    4 www.muslimsinamerica.org

    5 Ibid.

    6 Ibid.

    7 Herberg, p.8.

    8 Karl Evanzz, The Mesenger: The Rise and Fall of Elijah Muhammad (New York: Random House, 1999), p. 189.

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    At this point, I must conclude Barry O. will soon start pushing a Muslim agenda.

    Found another wonderful quote:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100811/pl_afp/ramadanreligionislamuspolitics

    The US president said he looked forward to hosting a White House Iftar dinner, the meal that breaks the daily fast.

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    Obama's Islamic agenda

    He embraces the Muslim world and turns his back on us

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    Illustration: Obama crescent by Greg Groesch for The Washington Times

    President Obama has revealed his true nature. After 20 months in the Oval Office, he still remained a largely unknown figure. A picture is coming into focus now, and it should trouble all Americans. It is widely known that Mr. Obama is a post-national progressive. Yet he is also a cultural Muslim who is promoting an anti-American, pro-Islamic agenda.

    This is the real meaning of his warm - and completely needless - embrace of the Ground Zero Mosque.

    At an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan at the White House, Mr. Obama told Muslim-Americans that he supports the building of an Islamic community center and mosque just two blocks away from where the Twin Towers were destroyed and nearly 3,000 Americans were murdered on Sept. 11, 2001. He later tried to back away from those comments. Mr. Obama said he was defending the right of religious freedom but not the "wisdom" of erecting the mosque.

    Nonetheless, Mr. Obama has been clear: In his view, the Ground Zero Mosque should be built. There was no good practical reason even to comment on the issue. He had been silent for weeks as the controversy gathered steam. The overwhelming majority of the American people oppose the mosque - especially the families of the Sept. 11 victims. Politically, it is a loser - for him and his party. Yet he could not keep his mouth shut.

    Why?

    Answer: For Mr. Obama, defending Islam has been a key priority of his presidency. In his famous speech in Cairo, Mr. Obama apologized to the Muslim world for the alleged "sins" and "mistakes" of America - even though no country has done more to liberate Islamic peoples than the United States, including campaigns in Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq. His aim was to engage the Islamic world on its terms and norms rather than defend America's values and national interests.

    Mr. Obama openly bragged about his "Muslim background" and that his family had "followers of Islam." He spoke of his youth in Indonesia, his study of the Koran and the call to Islamic prayer. In short, he discovered his inner Muslim in an attempt to ingratiate himself with the Arab street.

    The message was: I understand you, and I will usher in a new era of Islamic-American relations.

    This Mr. Obama has done with a vengeance. He is the most Muslim-friendly president in the nation's history. He wants the detention center at Guantanamo Bay closed. He demands that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, be tried in civilian court - with the full legal and constitutional protections given to U.S. citizens - several blocks from the World Trade Center site. He has ordered that the words "Muslim extremist," "Islamic terrorist" and "jihad" be cleansed from national security documents. He is openly anti-Israel. And he is prematurely withdrawing combat troops from Iraq, threatening to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Israeli military and intelligence officials concede that the administration - through diplomatic back channels - has told Jerusalem that Washington will not bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. The Jews are on their own in confronting the Holocaust-denying dictator President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Mr. Obama's tepid sanctions have failed to curb Iran's relentless march toward acquiring the nuclear bomb. This weekend, the Iranian nuclear power plant at Bushehr will begin fueling with enriched uranium. Thus, theocratic Iran is on the cusp of becoming a nuclear power. It is only a matter of time before radical Islam also has the bomb.

    Mr. Obama has done everything possible to appease the Muslim world - including, now, backing the Ground Zero Mosque. The debate about the mosque has little to do with religious freedom or tolerance. There are more than 1,200 mosques in America and dozens of them in New York City. The debate is about the meaning and memory of the Sept. 11 attacks. Those on the left - led by Mr. Obama - have been determined to alter the nature of that event. For them, it was simply a criminal act by several deranged individuals linked to a little tiny group called al Qaeda.

    Instead, the Sept. 11 attacks were acts of war in which 19 Muslim hijackers in the name of radical Islam brought global jihad here on American soil. This is why the Ground Zero Mosque is so offensive: It will be a symbol of radical Islam's conquest of America. If Islamists can erect a monument of victory that will permanently loom over our most hallowed ground, what can't they do? It will signify the surrender of liberal multiculturalism to the forces of political Islam. That is why so many Americans are passionately opposed to the mosque. They realize what is at stake.

    This, however, is too much for some politically correct conservatives to swallow. Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online, taking a break from writing on Hollywood, complained in a blog posting that one of my recent columns making this very point struck him as "nonsense." For Mr. Goldberg, the mosque issue is not "as big a deal as some are making it." Yes, it's an "offensive and ill-advised mistake that might make things harder in a long, complicated struggle," but really all of this heat and friction could have been avoided with a few phone calls by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg. My advice to Mr. Goldberg: Stick to writing about Michael Douglas and Paris Hilton.

    A more probing analysis reveals the dangers we are courting. It is remarkable that our liberal ruling elites refuse to demand an investigation into Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the cleric spearheading the Cordoba House initiative, or his dubious and murky sources of funding.

    Even in Obama nation, $100 million for a mosque is not chump change.

    Mr. Rauf is not a moderate. He is not some Muslim Gandhi, preaching the virtues of multireligious tolerance. Rather, he demands that America adopt Shariah law. He has said that U.S. policies were an "accessory" to the Sept. 11 attacks - in other words, we brought it upon ourselves. He openly defends Hamas. Now, he is on a State Department-sponsored trip across the Middle East, likely raising money for the mosque from rich Persian Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia.

    Mr. Obama has much to say when it comes to defending the rights of Muslims in America - even if this means supporting a project that deeply offends the values of Americans, disgraces the honor and memory of those who died on Sept. 11 and bolsters a pro-Shariah militant imam.

    But he is strangely silent about the rampant persecution of Christians and Jews in Muslim-majority nations - especially Saudi Arabia, which likely will provide the bulk of the financing for the Ground Zero Mosque, where churches and synagogues are banned.

    Across Europe and Canada, a stealth jihad is taking place. Radical Muslim groups have learned to use the West's freedoms and secular tolerance to advance their Islamist agenda. Shariah law tribunals now exist in Canada, Britain, Germany and the Netherlands. Slowly but surely, political Islam is establishing itself as a potent force across the West. In the vacuum of progressive multiculturalism - with its moral relativism, radical secularism, hatred for the Judeo-Christian heritage and loathing of Western civilization - Islamism is filling the void.

    The great irony is that the First Amendment was aimed at preventing the state establishment of religion. The Saudis have turned it upon its head: Riyadh, by financing mosques like the one at Ground Zero, is erecting radical Muslim sects here on U.S. soil that ultimately may threaten our most cherished freedoms. For the Saudi regime, there is no separation of mosque and state. And it is gradually imposing its theocratic will - its Islamist agenda based on Shariah law - upon the West. In light of this, Mr. Obama is a self-conscious radical, who is now putting the interests of Islam ahead of his own country. The debate over the Ground Zero Mosque has unmasked him as a president who favors Muslim interests over those of the American people.







    Obama denies entry of Christian Missionaries into the United States

    Plus they have banned this missionary from returning without getting an impossible to obtain waiver from the U.S. Consulate.

    What's going on here?

    Obama supports Mosque at Ground zero based on "freedom of religion".

    Obama hosts Ramadan iftar dinners at the White House.

    Obama gives speeches to the Islamic world denouncing America.

    Obama denies visas for Christian missionaries entering the US.

    Obama Refusal to attend Prayer Breakfasts.

    Obama denies of Boy scouts to meet in Federal parks.

    Christian crosses must covered at Obama's speeches.

    Ten Commandment monuments are prohibited.

    But the Left say the White House Obama is Christian, prays daily.





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    When people invoke "My God given Rights" the God spoke of in our founding documents was not allah.

    Look at any Muslim nation and examine the rights people have in those countries.

    Witness the intolerance they show toward any other religion, especially Jews and Christians.

    We are the most tolerant nation on the face of the planet, the freedoms we all enjoy today were brought by predominately Christian's from Europe.

    Yet the Left would like to re-write history and tell Conservatives in this nation that North America was also founded by Islamic pilgrims in the 1300's pre-dating Christoper Columbus.

    They want to tear down this nations Christian heritage and and use Islam as a battering ram to silence Conservatives in America.

    In 1493 the first known church structure was build by Juan Perez and celebrated the first Mass in the New World at Point Conception on 8 Dec., 1493, in a temporary {structure;} that this was the first church in {America;} and that Father Perez preserved the Blessed Sacrament there. He also became the guardian of the first convent which Columbus ordered to be erected at Santo Domingo.

    Burial Hill was the site of the embattled church erected in 1622, and contains many ancient tombstones and the foundations of a watchtower (1643), now covered with sod. Her eager human freight, there stands to-day a church which through the centuries has preserved unbroken records and maintained a continuous ministry. This is the First Church in Plymouth and the first church in America, the church of Scrooby, Leyden, and the Mayflower company, the church of Brewster and Bradford, of Winslow and Carver, whose first covenant, signed in the cabin of the little emigrant ship, is still the basis of its fellowship.

    Yet the first mosque was not build until 1915 by Albanian Muslims in Biddeford, Maine established the first effective Mosque in North America.

    That was over 400 years later.

    America's Christian heritage is irrefutable and documents back centuries.

    Islam had nothing to do with the founding of America or it's freedoms, if it did we would not know the liberty we have today.

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    Jefferson's War: America's First War on Terror 1801-1805


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    When Thomas Jefferson consulted the Quran, it was not out of respect for Islam, but to find out what motivated the Barbary States, enemies of the New United States, to make war on nations that had done them no harm. By Samuel L. Blumenfeld


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    On Friday, August 13th, President Obama welcomed members of the Muslim community to the White House to celebrate the Islamic holiday of Ramadan with an Iftar banquet--the meal served after the sunrise-to-sunset fast.. Ramadan is the ninth month in the Islamic lunar calendar.

    In the course of his flattering remarks about the great contributions of Muslims to America, the President mentioned the presence of two Muslim members of Congress: Andre Carson, Democrat from Indiana, and Keith Ellison, Democrat from Minnesota, who took his oath on Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Quran, which had been preserved in the Library of Congress.

    What the President didn’t mention is why Jefferson bought a Quran in London and why he read it. In preparing for war, he read it to find out what kind of religion the rulers of the Barbary States on the coast of North Africa believed in.


    For centuries the Muslim pirates had cruised the Mediterranean sea, capturing ships and taking prisoners, forcing Christian nations to pay tribute for freedom of passage. To avoid such confrontations, some Christian nations were willing to appease the Islamic enemy by signing treaties that required them to pay a certain amount of tribute each year. It was a form of extortion that Muslims could impose on frightened Christians.


    The pirates also raided coastline villages and took prisoners. The reason why so many Christian Greek coastal villages were built up in the hills was to provide protection against the depredations of the Muslims.

    Millions of Africans and thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans were enslaved by these raiders who killed many non-Muslim older men and women and kidnapped young women and children to be sold as concubines. The boys were often mutilated to create eunuchs for use in harems and as servants.


    Keith Ellison, born in Detroit to a Catholic family, was converted at age 19 to Islam while at Wayne State University. While in law school he wrote articles in support of Louis Farrakhan, with whom he is no longer affiliated. He said he chose to use Jefferson’s Quran because it showed that “a visionary like Jefferson” believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources. Actually, it wasn’t wisdom that Jefferson gleaned from the Quran, but a realistic understanding of what the United States was up against with the Barbary Pirates.


    In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and John Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the Tripolitan ambassador to Britain.

    American merchant ships had been captured by the Barbary corsairs and their crews and passengers imprisoned. They could only by freed by the payment of large ransoms. The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty that would spare their ships these piratical attacks. Congress had been willing to appease the Barbary Pirates if only they could gain peace at a reasonable price.


    During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the ambassador why Muslims held such hostility towards America, a nation with which they had had no previous contacts.
    Jefferson later reported to John Jay what the ambassador had told them, that the reason for the Muslims’ enmity, was that “It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman (Muslim) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.”

    What was Paradise like? George Sale, the translator of the English edition of the Quran that Jefferson had purchased,
    wrote in his commentary:
    [T]he very meanest in paradise will have eighty thousand servants, seventy-two wives of the girls of paradise, besides the wives he had in this world, and a tent erected for him of pearls, jacinths, and emeralds, of a very large extent; and, according to another tradition, will be waited on by three hundred attendants while he eats, will be served in dishes of gold, whereof three hundred shall be set before him at once, containing each a different kind of food . . . [T]here will be no want of wine, which, though forbidden in this life, will yet be freely allowed to be drunk in the next, and without danger, since the wine of paradise will not inebriate, as that we drink here. . . . .[T]he inhabitants of paradise will not need to ease themselves, nor even to blow their nose, for that all superfluities will be discharged and carried off by perspiration, or a sweat as odoriferous as musk, after which their appetite shall return afresh.
    So Jefferson was well aware of the superstitious lunacy and irrationality that motivated the Muslims willing to die as martyrs for Mohammed. And when he became President, he resolved to repel force by force.

    Within days of his inauguration, Jefferson ordered four warships to sail to the Barbary Coast and blockade and attack any Barbary State that was at war with the United States. Jefferson and his Cabinet all agreed that American power was needed to protect the young nation’s commercial interests in the Mediterranean.

    Joseph Wheelan writes in Jefferson’s War, that the third U.S. President “pitted a modern republic with a free-trade, entrepreneurial creed against a medieval autocracy whose credo was piracy and terror.

    It matched an ostensibly Christian nation against an avowed Islamic one that professed to despise Christians…. Jefferson was willing to send a largely untried squadron across the Atlantic to go to war with a people whose customs, history, and religion were alien to the early American experience.”


    The new President did not have a CIA to tell him what the enemy was like. He found that out by reading the Quran he had bought for his own edification. In other words, Jefferson’s copy of the Quran helped him understand the nature and mentality of the Muslim enemy. He was wise enough to do his own research long before the United States government had any intelligence apparatus.


    The Barbary War was the first foreign war fought and won by the newly independent United States. After many attempts to appease the duplicitous Barbary Muslims, it was finally decided that force was the only way to put an end to the piracy. And thanks to Jefferson, a new U.S. Navy was created to fight and win this war.


    The result was that the United States and the other Christian nations of Europe were then able to keep the Muslims at bay for over a hundred years. The French went so far as to invade Algeria and colonize it with Europeans. But in 1960 Charles de Gaulle undid it all. And now there are over five million Muslims in France. Indeed, the loss of Christian nerve has once more opened the gates of the West to a barbaric Muslim offensive.


    It’s hard to believe that all of this history is unknown to Congressman Ellison as well as President Obama, who knows full well what is in the Quran and what motivates the global jihadists.

    He doesn’t need the CIA to tell him what we are up against in this new phase of our never-ending war with Islam, for as long as the religion of Islam exists it will never disobey its Prophet’s command to conquer unbelievers and dominate the world.





    An Historical Perspective on a Muslim Being Sworn into Congress on the Koran

    by David Barton

    Quote:
    Jefferson, determined to end the two-decades-old terrorist attacks, selected General William Eaton (Adams’ Consul to Tunis) and elevated him to the post of “U. S. Naval Agent to the Barbary States,” with the assignment to lead an American military expedition against the four terrorist nations. Using the new American Navy built under Adams, Eaton transported the U. S. Marines overseas; and when the offending nations found themselves confronted by imminent American military action, all but Tripoli backed down.

    General Eaton therefore led a successful military campaign against Tripoli that freed captured seaman and crushed the terrorist forces.

    After four years of fighting, in 1805 Tripoli signed a treaty on America’s terms, thus ending their terrorist aggressions. (It is from the Marine Corps’ role in that first conflict with Muslim terrorists from 1801-1805 that the opening line of the Marine Hymn is derived: “From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli . . .”)

    Quote:
    Even further insight came from General Eaton’s writings after he commenced military action against Tripoli:

    April 8th. We find it almost impossible to inspire these wild bigots with confidence in us or to persuade them that, being Christians, we can be otherwise than enemies to Musselmen [Muslims]. We have a difficult undertaking!

    May 23rd. Hassien Bey, the commander in chief of the enemy’s forces, has offered by private insinuation for my head six thousand dollars and double the sum for me a prisoner; and $30 per head for Christians. Why don’t he come and take it?

    Throughout the extended conflict, Muslims viewed their actions in terms of a holy war against Christians; America, however, engaged in no religious war. Therefore, in the numerous treaties with the Barbary Powers, America sought to convince the Muslims there was no holy war – that as Christians, America had no hatred of Muslims per se.

    America did not retaliate against Muslims because of their faith but rather to end their terrorism against Americans. (from page 9)

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    Another Obama White House Lie About Islam

    By Warner Todd Huston Thursday, September 2, 2010

    Remember that iftar dinner the president sponsored?

    The dinner that got him in trouble because he came out in strong support of the mega-mosque at Ground Zero, support from which he backed away the very next day?

    Well, it turns out he delivered another blatant lie at that dinner, one that slipped under the radar because his support of the Ground Zero Mosque was so controversial.

    In his
    remarks at the iftar observance, Obama claimed that the “first” iftar dinner in the White House was hosted by Thomas Jefferson.
    Tonight, we are reminded that Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity. And Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan—making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.
    In this way, Obama tried to make it seem as if the United States has respected Islam since the early Republic and has observed its celebrations for two hundred years. But this is a major stretching of the truth. Thomas Jefferson did not hold an “iftar” dinner, unless you might call the dinner Obama references “iftar by default.”

    Naturally, the left-wing Old Media took Obama’s blatant misconstruction of historical events and went even farther down the road of untruths and lies. The New York Times published a story the next day referencing Jefferson’s mythical iftar dinner and made of it a “White House tradition”!
    In hosting the iftar, Mr. Obama was following a White House tradition that, while sporadic, dates to Thomas Jefferson, who held a sunset dinner for the first Muslim ambassador to the United States. President George W. Bush hosted iftars annually.
    What tosh. There has never been a tradition of iftar dinners at the White House, sporadic or otherwise, until after the year 1992.

    Jefferson’s dinner was no iftar dinner and no other president until Bill Clinton even hosted one. We have a “tradition” of exactly three presidents holding iftar dinners, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and now
    Barack Obama. Not much of a tradition that.

    So what of this claim of Jefferson’s iftar dinner? As
    Jihad Watch informs us, there never really was one. The truth is that in 1805 Jefferson invited to a dinner at the White House one Sidi Soliman Melli Melli, the diplomatic envoy that the Bey of Tunis sent to Washington. The time set for this dinner was 3:30 PM, the normal time that everyone then ate dinner in those days. Since it was Ramadan, however, the envoy informed Jefferson that he could not attend until the sun went down because he was observing his fasting ritual.

    Jefferson then offered to push his dinner hour until the sun went down as a courtesy to his invited guest. It was as simple as that. There was no mention of any iftar anything. President Jefferson simply moved the hour of dinner to suit the envoy. There was no change to what was served in order to suit Muslim needs, there was no acknowledgment of the Muslim faith, and no observance of any “iftar” dinner. Jefferson was just being a nice guy.


    And of this historical incident, Obama and his cohorts in the left-wing, Old Media have created a mythical “sporadic tradition.” But for Obama and the New York Times to mislead the
    American people into imagining that the White House has celebrated iftar all the way back to 1805 is simply a straight out lie.

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