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    Homosexual Assaults Becoming a Problem in U.S. Military, DoD Survey Finds

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    A Defense Department survey has found a dramatic increase in sexual assault among the troops — including homosexual assaults perpetrated by male military personnel.

    A little over a year after the “Don't Ask, Don't Tell” (DADT) ban on homosexuals in the military was officially dropped, the Department of Defense has admitted that it has a problem with sexual assault by male soldiers on other men. The Washington Times noted that, according to an anonymous survey conducted by the Defense Department among military personnel, more men than women are sexually abused in the military each year, with assaults overwhelmingly perpetrated by other men.

    Results of the survey show that of the estimated 26,000 service members who were victims of sexual assault in 2012, roughly 14,000 of the victims were men, while some 12,000 were women, according to a scientific survey sample released by the Pentagon
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    A 129 percent increase in sexual assaults among military personnel since 2004 has prompted Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to launch a campaign to deal with “unwanted sexual contact,” among the troops. But the project has become more complicated by the fact that an inordinate number of the assaults are apparently being perpetrated by male homosexuals — close on the heels of their high-profile welcome into the ranks.

    Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, noted that the number of formal reports of sexual assault in the military annually skyrocketed from 1,275 to 2,949 in just eight years, and the numbers of same-sex assaults appear to be one of the factors.

    Donnelly said that women are identified as the assailants in just two percent of all assaults, which means that almost all of the 14,000 or so men who have been assaulted sexually were targeted by other men. “It appears that the DoD has serious problems with male-on-male sexual assaults that men are not reporting and the Pentagon doesn't want to talk about,” Donnelly charged.

    Donnelly, whose group took a lead role in the fight to keep DADT in place, charged that the DoD's Sexual Assault Response and Prevention Office “continues to focus its attention on women who experience abuse but don't report it, overlooking the far greater numbers of men who, according to the survey, are experiencing abuse but not reporting it. If the Pentagon considers the survey results a credible reflection of hidden reality, they must also concede that there are more men than women who are being sexually assaulted.”

    Aaron Belkin of the Palm Center, which promotes homosexuality in the military, insisted to the Washington Times that “very few” of the perpetrators of male-on-male sexual assault are homosexual, claiming that the attacks are “somewhat similar to prison rape.” Donnelly called such a notion “outrageous,” telling World Net Daily that the increasing numbers of same-sex assaults has the military officials flummoxed. “The Department of Defense doesn’t quite know what to do with these figures,” she said, “and so they just sort of put them in there and hope nobody notices.”

    Donnelly said it is crucial to monitor the numbers of sexual assaults to document how two significant changes in the military — welcoming homosexuals and allowing an increasing role of women in combat arenas — are negatively impacting military readiness. She said DoD officials appear to be in denial over the connection between these two issues and the increase in sexual assaults among military personnel.

    As for addressing the increasing problem of sexual assaults against females, she told World Net Daily that “I think we have to start with the basics, and that means basic training. Back in 1998, unanimously, the Kassebaum-Baker Commission came out with recommendations to separate basic training for Army, Air Force, and Navy trainers, [to] do it like the Marines do. The Marines train basic training separately, male and female at Parris Island. That’s a good thing to do. It’s a good first start.”

    More fundamentally, she added, the DoD must “stop pretending that sexuality does not matter. You cannot solve a problem by extending it into the combat arms. The big push is for women in combat — this argument that we have to have women in the infantry so they’ll be respected more and they won’t be assaulted.”

    Donnelly pointed out that while respect for women in the military is at an all-time high, so are the sexual assaults against them. She said that the Pentagon and policymakers in Congress “need to assess where we are, what has happened in the last two decades, and they need to stop pretending that a lot of sensitivity training or highly paid consultants [are] going to make a difference in the sex problems we’re seeing right now.”

    In a statement released by the Center for Military Readiness, Donnelly said that both male and female military personnel deserve “reality-based policies that combine recent lessons learned with classic principles that should be strengthened, not weakened. Congress must intervene before the administration's incremental plans irreversibly extend unresolved social problems into fighting battalions that are key to mission accomplishment in the all-volunteer force.”

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    Transgender Navy SEAL 'Warrior Princess' Comes Out


    A former member of the elite U.S. Navy SEALs has come out to say she's now a woman.

    Kristin Beck, formerly Chris, served 20 years as a SEAL and fought on some of the most dangerous battlefields in the world, but after she left the service she realized she wasn't living the life she wanted.

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    Pentagon: America “Safer” With Openly Gay Troops…


    Do gays possess some kind of special fighting power we haven’t been told about?


    Via Washington Times:
    The Pentagon on Tuesday toasted gays in the military, with a top adviser to President Obama declaring the country is “safer” now that homosexuals may serve openly.

    “Because we repealed ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ our military … is stronger and our country is safer, more equal and more just,” said Valerie Jarrett, the keynote speaker at the Pentagon’s gay pride celebration.

    It was the Defense Department second annual gay pride gathering since September 2011, when Mr. Obama signed the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” a ban on gays serving openly in the military implemented during the Clinton administration. [...]

    Wednesday’s speakers were assembled by a new group, DOD Pride, and featured three senior officials, topped by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel.
    HT: DRUDGE


    Airman Punished for Objecting to Gay Marriage in Military Chapel

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    Jul 11, 2013
    By Todd Starnes



    A 27-year veteran of the Utah Air National Guard said he was reprimanded after he wrote an email objecting to a gay wedding in the West Point chapel and was later told to prepare for retirement because his personal beliefs about homosexuality were not compatible with the military’s policies.

    “The military is trying to make examples of people who have religious beliefs that homosexual conduct in the military is wrong,” said John Wells, an attorney representing TSgt. Layne Wilson. “The end game is to force conservative Christians out of the military.”

    Last December Wilson wrote a letter to a person believed to be a chaplain at West Point. He stated his displeasure at news of a same-sex ceremony held in the Cadet Chapel.

    “This is wrong on so many levels,” Wilson wrote. “If they wanted to get married in a hotel that is one thing. Our base chapels are a place of worship and this is a mockery to God and our military core values. I have proudly served 27 years and this is a slap in the face to us who have put our lives on the line for this country. I hope sir that you will take appropriate action so this does not happen again.”

    Instead of responding to the private email, the Commandant of Cadets notified the Utah Air National Guard – leading to an accusation that he had brought disgrace and discredit upon the Air National Guard and his conduct was inconsistent with the United States Air Force.




    The Air National Guard determined that Wilson’s email “failed to render the proper respect to a commissioned officer.”

    “You are hereby reprimanded,” read a letter from Lt. Col. Kevin Tobias. “As a noncommissioned officer you are expected to maintain a standard of professional and personal behavior that is above reproach. You have failed!”

    A public affairs officer with the Utah Air National Guard told Fox News they could not comment on Layne’s case because of possible litigation.
    Ironically, Wells pointed out, the Defense of Marriage Act was still the law of the land and TSgt. Layne was simply reporting “what he believed was a violation of the law.”

    In addition to his reprimand, the Air National Guard terminated a six-year reenlistment contract. Instead, they gave Layne a one-year extension.

    “Due to the fact that I expressed my views on homosexuality in uniform; Lt. Col. Tobias stated that I was no longer compatible with further military service,” Wilson wrote in a letter detailing the discrimination allegations.

    Tobias confirmed Wilson’s allegation in a memorandum dated June 19, 2013 and obtained by Fox News.

    “We talked about his feelings about DADT and how he doesn’t agree with it,” Tobias wrote. “I then told him that maybe this is a good time for him to move on because we’ve been ordered to not have an opinion about gays in the military and we need to treat them as we would treat anyone else in the service of our country.”

    “I also reiterated that I respect his feelings but I’m not comfortable reenlisting him with his strong feelings about this matter,” he additionally wrote.

    Col. Ronald Blunck concurred with Tobias – noting that “Your right to practice your religious beliefs does not excuse you from complying with directives, instructions and lawful orders.”

    “Lt. Col. Tobias is correct in demanding that TSgt. Wilson refrain from expressing opinions contrary to Air Force guidance while in uniform,” Blunck wrote. “The Repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was directed by law.”

    Wilson also discussed concerns he had about a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” repeal briefing in 2011. He told his superior officers he found the briefing to be “very disturbing” and “conflicting with my moral rights of conscience.”

    “My issue is not so much about homosexuals serving in the military, but rather that it is being forced upon as an acceptable lifestyle abandoning our traditional values,” he wrote.

    He said the military has created an atmosphere where those who do not approve of homosexual conduct “must remain disapprovingly silent or face reprisal to our careers.”

    “It is evident those who refuse to affirm homosexuality and openly oppose it are being severely punished,” he wrote.

    Attorney Wells told Fox News he wants the military to rescind the reprimand and reinstate the original six-year reenlistment contract.

    “This was an executed contract,” he said. “But they just went in, tore it up and issued a new one.”

    Wells said his client’s only “crime” was registering his opinion that a gay marriage in a military chapel was a violation of the law that existed at that time.

    “His actions were proper within the scope of the Uniform Code and the Manual for Courts-Martial,” Wells said. “While his interpretation of the law may or may not have been correct, his actions should not have given rise to the firestorm of reprisals that he has suffered.”

    Wells said he believes the military is trying to send a message to other troops- and incidents like this are just the “tip of the iceberg.”

    “They’re trying to make examples of people early on who have religious beliefs that homosexual conduct in the military is wrong,” he said. “When these people assert their First Amendment rights, they are getting slapped down and slapped down hard.”

    Wells isn’t alone in his fears.

    Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, said there is a clear and present danger to religious liberty within the military.

    “Christians who choose to live out their faith find themselves incompatible with the secular view of this administration,” said Perkins. “We’re establishing a beach head for religious liberty and the evidence points to a very deliberate attack.”

    Representatives of 14 groups concerned about religious liberty joined Reps. John Fleming R-La., Jim Bridenstine R-Okla., and Louie Gohmert R-Tex. on Capitol Hill to urge support for Fleming’s military religious freedom amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act.

    The amendment protects the rights of servicemembers to not only hold religious beliefs but to act on them and speak about them. Fleming’s amendment has bipartisan support but the Obama Administration issued a statement “strongly objecting” to the legislation.

    The amendment comes as more than 170,000 Americans signed petitions calling for Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to protect the religious liberties of military personnel through policies that guarantee those liberties.

    “We want to make this the first key battle to restore religious liberty back to the American people,” Fleming told Fox News. “It sets the tone for a broader war to fight back against this government that is infringing on our religious liberty.”

    Perkins and Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Jerry Boykin, the FRC’s executive vice president, released a nine-page document detailing anti-religious behavior in the military.

    “Unfortunately, pressures to impose a secular, anti-religious culture on our nation’s military services have intensified tremendously during the Obama Administration,” the FRC report states.

    “We will stand with servicemembers who wish to exercise their First Amendment rights of religious liberty,” Boykin said. ‘We must do all we can to ensure that our servicemembers have the right to practice the very freedoms that they risk their lives to defend.”

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    I'm really getting tired of the politicization of what gets people's rocks off...


    Gay Man Becomes Acting Secretary of the Air Force

    June 23, 2013

    With the retirement of Air Force Secretary Michael Donley, undersecretary Eric Fanning became "civilian leader of the Air Force" on June 21.

    As Buzzfeed Politics reports, this is unique because Fanning is a gay man who was in the military under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (DADT) and who now holds a leadership position as the military continues its transformation away from the ban.

    In a recent interview, Fanning talked about some of his experiences in the military, particularly the years just prior to the repeal of DADT. Regarding the time when the push for repeal was taking place in Obama's first term, Fanning said: "I didn't know what I was going to do if we didn't get the repeal through because some people couldn't work because they were openly gay or lesbian."

    Fanning also intimated he would to see sexual orientation policies further changed and better codified:

    Speaking personally, I always think it's important to have non-discrimination codified to include everyone. The military, because it has a chain of command, has a different attitude about this and a different way to try to go about protecting protecting airmen, sailors, soldiers, and Marines--but Eric Fanning? Yes, I personally like to see these things in writing and codified.

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    So I did show the tank in the picture above off to one of my buddies who was a tank commander.

    Told me "You've reached a new low, Mr. Donaldson"

    like I made it up. lol
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    DOD Holds First Lesbian-Gay-Transgender Pride Event in Kandahar, Afghanistan (Video)

    July 4, 2013

    The Department of Defense held their first lesbian, gay, and transgender pride event in Kandahar recently.



    KPBS reported:

    U.S. troops deployed to Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan this week held the first Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender Pride event to be observed in a deployed environment.

    The Pentagon also held a LGBT Pride Month ceremony on Tuesday, one day before the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as between a heterosexual couple.
    It’s no longer important that we win wars. What’s important is that everyone feels included.

    This from the same military that decided to remove coded Bible verse references from optics because it might offend the local population.

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    Sergeant Dismissed For Saying... Nothing

    August 16, 2013

    Due to a perceived slight against homosexuality, Senior Master Sgt. Phillip Monk is in a fight for his career. The Lackland Air Force base first sergeant was told by his commanding officer to clear out his office on Aug. 9. The point of contention reportedly is not about anything Monk said, but what he refused to say.

    "It's all because he didn't say anything wrong. He thought it," said Steven Branson, pastor of Village Parkway Baptist Church in San Antonio. Monk, his wife and their three teenage sons faithfully attend services each Sunday the pastor said.

    Branson said he has been in touch with Monk since the sergeant told him Sunday (Aug. 11) of the untenable situation. The pastor said Monk feels abandoned by the institution he has served for 19 years. Deployed as a medic, Monk devoted himself to saving the lives of his fellow service men and women, according to his pastor.

    "Now I'm in trouble," Monk told Branson, "and everybody's leaving me behind."

    At issue is Monk's refusal to reveal his personal views regarding homosexual marriage to his commanding officer. According to a Fox News report, the commander, a lesbian, asked Monk to report on disciplinary proceedings for an Air Force instructor under investigation for making objectionable comments about homosexual marriage during a training session.

    According to Fox News, Monk interviewed the instructor and determined his comments were not intentionally provocative. But some trainees complained. Monk suggested that his commander use the incident as a learning tool about tolerance and diversity, but to no avail.

    "Her very first reaction was to say, 'We need to lop off the head of this guy.' The commander took the position that his speech was discrimination," Monk reportedly recounted.

    Branson said the commander began to press Monk about his views on the issue.

    Fox reported, "She said, 'Sgt. Monk, I need to know if you can, as my first sergeant, if you can see discrimination if somebody says that they don't agree with homosexual marriage.'"

    Having witnessed the commander's ire regarding the instructor, Monk declined to answer. He also understood Air Force policy demands silence from homosexual detractors.

    "She got angrier and angrier with him," Branson said. "So he got fired for something she thinks he believes."

    The action will be a mark on an otherwise spotless record. Branson called Monk "pure military" -- a real "do-it-by-the-book" serviceman who also happens to be a strong Christian.

    It is because of his faith and the lesson he wants to teach his sons that compels him to take action. As Monk told his pastor, "I'm going to teach my boys they can't run from everything."

    The Liberty Institute in Plano, Texas, has agreed to represent Monk should the need for legal counsel become necessary. And although the family is "low-key" and not well-known, help has come from the church. Branson said members who are experienced news media and military professionals offered counsel on how to negotiate the anticipated onslaught of exposure and scrutiny.

    "We're trying to provide him coverage," Branson said.

    The Monk family has faithfully attended Village Parkway Baptist for two years, the pastor said. Though a number of military personnel from Lackland Air Force Base attend the church, many do not join because reassignments keep them on the move. But their attendance and involvement in the congregation is encouraged and valued, Branson said.

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    I really don't think a commander can just fire someone like that. They have to have a legitimate reason. Not saying ANYTHING can't be construed as something it isn't. This is absolute bullshit and that "dyke commander" is the one that needs to be fired.

    Yup, I said it.

    Any one who tries to force their views down your throat is a criminal.

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    As I understand it, he was removed from his billet, not removed from service, which I think is within the purview of the commander.

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    Obama Military Invites Drag Queens To Perform On Air Base

    August 20, 2013


    Drag queens Jewels & the Brunchettes

    President Lucifer’s destruction of the U.S. military continues.

    The military doesn’t have money for July 4th Independence Day celebrations this year because of budget cuts. (Those celebrations were canceled at the Marine Corps Logistics Base in Albany, Georgia, and the Camp Lejeune Marine Corps Base and the Army’s Fort Bragg in North Carolina.)

    But on August 8, 2013, the Los Angeles Air Force Base (LAAFB) invited a drag queen musical group, Jewels and the Brunchettes, to perform as part of its celebration of Diversity Day.



    Todd Starnes reports for Fox News Radio that military personnel at LAAFB were treated to a Diversity Day musical performance featuring three individuals dressed in drag.

    The drag queen performance sparked outrage among some airmen who called the performance “totally offensive and inappropriate.”

    One airman told Fox News he was troubled when three individuals dressed in drag began performing on the air base: “I am really surprised that this happened on a military installation. I get that people want to be able to have committed relationships with members of the same sex, but this crossed the line.”

    The airman said it was ironic that the Air Force is cracking down on Christians being able to openly share their faith but they would allow individuals to dress in drag: “We can’t even have Bibles on our desks. This base is not a platform for political agendas. It is a military installation. The display was totally inappropriate and offensive.”

    Photographs of the event (see below) show an individual wearing a giant wig performing to a sparse crowd underneath the American flag. It’s unclear whether the individuals in high heels and form-fitting dresses are members of the Air Force.





    In response to Starnes’ email, the U.S. Air Force issued a statement confirming that the LAAFB Diversity Day was meant to “foster equality and diversity in the workplace” and featured 8 “cultural groups,” including a well-known drag queen group, Jewels and the Brunchettes, who were invited to perform because drag is a “symbol of gay pride and unity.”

    Peggy Hodge, a spokesperson for the USAF Office of Public Affairs, said in the written statement:

    “Drag acts to this day represent the struggle for freedom and equality of the LGBT community, while at the same time providing a deep-rooted historical form of entertainment for the LGBT culture. Drag queen acts are historically one of the main forms of entertainment in the LGBT culture, having its roots in the earliest of days of the gay rights movement. [Individuals dressing in drag harkens to the days of the Stonewall riots when a gay bar was raided by police.] What followed was the brutal beating and jailing of several men dressed as women. This is commonly accepted as the start of the gay rights movement in the United States. [As a result of the Stonewall riots] the wearing and performing in drag became a symbol of gay pride and unity.”

    The military said the drag queen group did not include any members of the Air Force.


    Army Brigadier General Tammy Smith, right, with her wife, Tracey Hepner

    The Diversity Day celebration also featured ethnic and LGBT booths; performances by an Irish dance troupe, a Polynesia entertainment group, Japanese drummers, Native American dancers, Hispanic folk music, and cloggers; as well as a speech by Brigadier General Tammy Smith, the first openly gay general after the Obama regime’s repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

    An Army spokesman told Fox News that Smith was speaking from an outline and did not have a transcript of her remarks, but The Blaze obtained a partial video of her speech where she asked military personnel to be accepting of diverse cultures and lifestyles.

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    So.... tell me, why didn't anyone show up for that show?

    LOL

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    Obama's little social experiment causing conflict within the military...


    Texas Guard Refuses To Process Same-Sex Benefits

    September 3, 2013

    The Texas National Guard refused to process requests from same-sex couples for benefits on Tuesday, citing the state constitution's ban on gay marriage, despite a Pentagon directive to do so.

    Pentagon officials said Texas appeared to be the only state that planned to turn gay and lesbian couples away on Tuesday, the first working day that gays in the military may apply for benefits. The Department of Defense had announced it would recognize same-sex marriages performed in states where they are legal following the U.S. Supreme Court decision throwing out the Defense of Marriage Act. Passed by Congress in 1996, the act prohibited federal recognition of same-sex marriages and said no state could be forced to recognize such marriages that might become legal in another state.

    Maj. Gen. John Nichols, the commanding general of Texas Military Forces, wrote in a letter obtained by The Associated Press that because the Texas Constitution defines marriage as between a man and a woman, his state agency couldn't process applications from gay and lesbian couples. But he said the Texas National Guard, Texas Air Guard and Texas State Guard would not deny anyone benefits.

    "However, the (Texas Military Forces) remains committed to ensuring its military personnel and their families receive the benefits to which they are entitled. As such, we encourage anyone affected by this issue to enroll for benefits at a federal installation," he advised service members. He then listed 22 bases operated by the Department of Defense in Texas where service members could enroll their families.

    Governments in 19 states offer benefits for the same-sex partners of state employees, whether marriage is allowed or not.

    National guard officials in Florida, Michigan and Oklahoma - all states that ban gay marriage - said they will follow federal law.

    "It's truly outrageous that the State of Texas has decided to play politics with our military families," said Stephen Peters, president of American Military Partner Association, which advocates for lesbian, bisexual, gay and transgender people in the armed forces. "Our military families are already dealing with enough problems and the last thing they need is more discrimination from the state of Texas."

    The association gave the AP a copy of Nichols' letter.

    State officials said they supported same-sex families but couldn't process the paperwork.

    "Despite the legal conflict, the (Texas Military Forces) remains committed to ensuring military personnel and their families receive the benefits to which they are entitled," said Laura Lopez, a spokeswoman for Texas Military Forces, which oversees the state's National Guard units.

    Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen, a spokesman at the Pentagon, said federal officials will process all applications from same-sex couples with a marriage certificate from a state where it is legal. According to U.S. officials, the Defense Department is aware of the Texas National Guard's interpretation of the policy, but the department has not made any legal determination on it.

    Last week, Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki said Congress or the courts still has more work to do before the VA can provide federal benefits to married, same-sex couples.

    The Supreme Court ruled in June that a law denying federal tax, health and pension benefits to married-same-sex couples was unconstitutional. However, the law governing veteran's benefits contained similar provisions. It specifically defines spouse and surviving spouse as someone of the opposite sex.

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    Homosexual Male Nurse Molests Paralyzed Afghan War Vet



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    we’ll be seeing more of as the homosexualization of the Armed Forces proceeds:
    A male nurse in Chicago has been arrested and charged with sexual abuse for allegedly fondling a paralyzed Afghan war veteran who cannot speak.

    The two incidents, which happened in the soldier’s room at the Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago between July 4 and Aug. 6, involved 39-year-old nurse Dioscoro Flores, Cook County prosecutors say.

    A police report said the soldier, who is a quadriplegic, let his father know of the abuse by communicating to him using eye motions and a board to spell out questions, the Chicago Tribune reports.
    At the rate we are plunging into moonbattery, when this happens in the near future, it will be the vet who is arrested for homophobically complaining about it.

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    Fort Bragg Chapel Holds First Same-Sex Ceremony

    December 22, 2013

    Three years ago, Maj. Daniel Toven couldn’t imagine being married, let alone having a ceremony in Fort Bragg’s Main Post Chapel. Like all gay soldiers at the time, he was living under the policy of “don’t ask, don’t tell” — a policy that kept separated his personal life and his work.

    But after a whirlwind of changes that began with the repeal of the ban in 2011, Toven and his partner, Johnathan Taylor, have broken ground.

    The pair, who wed in Washington, D.C., in August, blessed their marriage before more than 100 people at Fort Bragg on Saturday.

    The ceremony — while not technically a wedding, which would be barred by state law — is believed to be the first for a same-sex couple at Fort Bragg.

    The couple exchanged vows and were blessed in front of their family and friends packed in the chapel, which dates to 1934.

    Soldiers in and out of uniform mixed with family and friends in the church pews during the Episcopal service, led by the Rev. Harry Abernathy.

    Abernathy said the liturgy was one of blessing, not marriage, but the two were very similar. He added that the couple’s relationship was a sign of God’s love.

    Attendees at the service included a one-star general and a command sergeant major.

    Lt. Col. Heather Mack and her wife, Ashley Broadway, who initially was barred from membership in the Fort Bragg Officers’ Spouses Club before the group relented earlier this year, and Staff Sgt. Tracy Johnson, the first same-sex war widow in the U.S. military, also attended. Johnson’s wife, Staff Sgt. Donna Johnson, was killed in Afghanistan in 2012.

    Both Broadway and Johnson had to fight for recognition in recent years. But as time has passed, so has acceptance of same-sex couples on Fort Bragg and in the military as a whole.

    Now, same-sex couples openly attend unit holiday parties, balls and other events.

    Toven and Taylor, in a sign of the growing acceptance of same-sex military couples, said they encountered no opposition to their ceremony by post officials and chaplains.

    “We’ve been taken by surprise by the pace of change on Fort Bragg,” Toven said.

    Toven, who joined the Army in 2003, said he couldn’t imagine a wedding ceremony on any Army post when he first put on a uniform.

    “I’m not sure I would have fathomed that in early 2012,” he said.

    Toven said he recognized that he would have to hide part of himself when he joined the Army. He was recruited after attending the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, N.Y.

    “It would be a sacrifice, but I could do that,” he said, referring to a commitment to serve at least one term.

    But Toven fell in love with the military, despite the restrictions it placed on him.

    “For me, it was my hope that someday before I retired that I might see the repeal of don’t ask, don’t tell,” Toven said. “This? I never imagined in a million years. It’s a dream come true.”

    The couple met three years ago after Toven, a native of Union City, Pa., moved to Fort Bragg with Forces Command during the 2005 base closure and realignment, or BRAC.

    Shortly after his move, he met Taylor, a Rockingham native who works as a nurse at Cape Fear Valley Medical Center.

    Their first date was at Pierro’s Italian Bistro in downtown Fayetteville.

    The relationship grew, and the couple became engaged on Christmas morning last year.

    Taylor had worked a 14-hour shift that Christmas Eve, and they attended church service before settling in at home just after midnight.

    That’s when Toven asked Taylor to check his stocking.

    Inside was a card and a small box.

    “I open it and I look at Daniel and he’s on one knee,” Taylor recalled.

    Taylor said he was sleep-deprived and hadn’t eaten all day. Suddenly, he was overcome with emotion.

    “I said, ‘I think I’m going to vomit,’” Taylor said.

    “It was not one of my finest moments in life.”

    Almost a year later, Taylor and Toven held hands at the front of a chapel decorated in wreaths and poinsettias.

    The couple squeezed hands as they exchanged vows and Taylor rubbed Toven’s hands with his thumb as their rings were blessed.

    The pair had big smiles as they were presented as a couple, an act that was punctuated with applause from the audience.

    Afterwards, the guests gathered outside as the couple walked under sabers held by six soldiers in dress blues.

    Even before the wedding, Taylor said he felt like an accepted part of the Forces Command and Fort Bragg communities.

    When Toven took command of the 55-member Ground Forces Band in July 2012, Taylor was introduced during the ceremony.

    Afterwards, Gen. David Rodriguez, then-commander of Forces Command, personally welcomed him to the command.

    “We have been welcomed most graciously,” Taylor said. “It was just normal after that. We were just like any other couple.”

    Toven, who conducts the band at countless command changes and other ceremonies on Fort Bragg, said having Taylor introduced at such a ceremony was surreal.

    “It’s something I always dreamed about,” Toven said. “Ceremonies are a staple of what I do. When that happened for me, I wanted to have my spouse with me and have him recognized as such.

    “I didn’t think that was possible.”

    “There was that moment when the angels were singing,” Taylor added. “From then on, it’s just been normal.”

    When Toven was promoted to major between holiday concerts in Raleigh days before the Saturday ceremony, he was flanked by Taylor and his father.

    “It felt completely normal,” he said.

    “We are professionals. We’re soldiers. We all take the same oath .... That other stuff is irrelevant.”

    Because North Carolina law barred the couple from being wed in the state, they were officially wed on Aug. 6 in the nation’s capital.

    Saturday’s ceremony, however, was the main event for family, which includes many soldiers, and an important event for the couple, who thought it important to have a religious ceremony.

    “We weren’t exactly sure if anyone had done that yet,” Toven said of the Saturday ceremony. “But all soldiers have access to post chapels. There’s just something iconic about getting married in a post chapel.”

    The couple said they found no resistance in booking the Main Post Chapel, which officials have said hosts about 10 weddings each month.

    An Army chaplain sponsored the couple, and the chapel was booked with only a few forms.

    One of the applications, however, did get a small change.

    Taylor said the couple crossed out “Bride” and instead annotated a “Groom 1” and “Groom 2.”

    “We’d be lying if we said we did not think about it,” Taylor said of the ceremony’s place in Fort Bragg history. “But it says a lot about the wonderful place we’re at.”

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    'Gay' U.S. soldiers caught in astonishing act

    Sellout crowd attends LGBT fundraiser on military base

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    A U.S. Army soldier excited about singing in a crossdressing show at an American air base in Okinawa. Stars and Stripes photo.

    Almost seven decades after being the scene of one of the most ferocious and protracted battles of World War II – a site of legendary valor and sacrifice on the part of American soldiers – some U.S. service personnel stationed in Okinawa today are treating the world to another kind of display: “Gay” and lesbian service personnel performing in drag, to raise funds for their activities, to a sellout audience.

    As reported Sunday by Stars and Stripes, openly homosexual service members at Okinawa’s Kadena Air Base took to the stage and performed as “drag queens” and “drag kings” Saturday “on a military installation in support of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender troops.”

    According to the story, which has published news for the military community continuously since WWII, “six servicemembers – gay, lesbian and straight – donned heavy makeup to dance and lip sync songs such as ‘I Wanna Dance with Somebody’ for a raucous capacity crowd at the Rocker NCO Club at Kadena Air Base. The event was a fundraiser for the recently formed Okinawa chapter of OutServe-SLDN, which is the largest nonprofit advocate for the military’s LGBT community.”

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    Participants and audience alike were reportedly surprised at the huge response to the event. Navy Lt. Marissa Greene, co-chapter leader of OutServe Okinawa, said, “We didn’t think there was much of a desire for an event like this on the island but it has actually blown up,” according to the report. Though anticipating selling only about 75 tickets, “We ended up selling 400 tickets in 10 days,” she told Stars and Stripes.

    Commenting on the radical culture shift within the military, Stars and Stripes observed that “just a few years ago, gay and lesbian drag performances on a military base would have been unthinkable and potentially a cause for dismissal from the service.” It added, “The repeals of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, as well as the Defense of Marriage Act – the law barring the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages – have allowed gays and lesbians in the military to be open with their sexuality for the first time.”

    One soldier in attendance at the fundraiser, Tech. Sgt. Kristen Baker, told Stars and Stripes the LGBT fundraising show not only was received warmly, but would help advance civil rights.



    A U.S. Army soldier has makeup applied before performing in the crossdressing show. Stars and Stripes photo.

    “Everything is just accepted,” she said. “It makes me really proud to watch it,” adding that, in the military, “we are all brothers and sisters no matter what.”

    In September 2011, on the implementation of the repeal of the Clinton-era Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, President Obama said: “I was proud to sign the Repeal Act into law last December because I knew that it would enhance our national security, increase our military readiness, and bring us closer to the principles of equality and fairness that define us as Americans.”

    However, latest reports are that the rate of sexual assaults, and especially male-on-male sexual assaults, in the U.S. military has skyrocketed.

    “So we’ve got a male-on-male problem here,” says Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness. “The Department of Defense doesn’t want to comment on this. They know that the numbers are there. They say that they care, but all the attention is usually given to the female members of the military who are subjected to sexual assault.”


    Gay and lesbian troops perform in drag on American military base

    Troops based at the Kadena Air Base in Japan know how to party. On Saturday, six gay and straight service members applied some of their finest makeup and lip synced to "I Wanna Dance with Somebody" in what is believed to be first drag queen and king show on an American military base. The show was thrown in support for the base's recently formed OutServe-SLDN chapter, a nonprofit advocacy group for the army's LGBT community.

    Navy Lt. Marissa Greene told Stars and Stripes she only expected to sell 75 tickets for the variety show, but ended up selling more than 400 in ten days. The event went through the same approval process as other on-base fundraisers go through, with the only caveat being that it was not allowed to be labeled a "drag show" in its publicity materials. The show was warmly received by spectators, who rocked out to performances by the likes of Manny Nuff and Chocolate Sunrise ("a crowd favorite," the website notes.)

    Just a few years ago, performances like these would have been grounds for a possible discharge. The repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell has made it possible for events like this to occur. --Jordan Valinsky



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    If these tards wants to sing and dance, move to NYC and get a job off broadway.

    IF they want to be soldiers, be soldiers.
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    But, but, but... They just want to serve their country, not receive any special treatment!

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    It sounds more likely that they want to serve their inner desires to be women. Want to be a women? Go get yer schwanz cut off and be done with it. Otherwise, get back to being a soldier or whatever. Enough with this shit.
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    Go get yer schwanz cut off and be done with it.
    That is commonly called the "Lopitoffame". The opposite gender transition would be called "Addadicktome"....
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