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    Obama - Qaddafi Coincidence?

    by Scott Wheeler



    Whose interest was President Obama serving when on March 30 he ordered Chrysler to either conclude a merger with Italian automaker Fiat within 30 days or lose federal bailout funds?

    That untimely announcement placed Chrysler in the untenable position of accepting whatever Fiat offered, literally cutting the legs out from under the struggling American carmaker’s negotiating platform. Some financial analysts had already determined that what Fiat was offering was a very bad deal for Chrysler. “The steal of the century,” Forbes columnist Jerry Flint wrote of the deal back in January, “Fiat gets

    Chrysler for next to no money, and American taxpayers must throw in $7 billion to make it happen.” By most accounts, Chrysler was in real trouble, but by announcing to the world that Chrysler had no other alternatives Obama effectively told Fiat that Chrysler would accept whatever they offered, eliminating Chrysler’s ability to cut a better deal.

    Why would President Obama undercut a US company, involved in a heated negotiation, in favor of a foreign company’s interest? Clear answers are not available, but there is one very curious shareholder in Fiat that raises some interesting questions. The African nation of Libya owns at least a 2 to 3 percent stake in Fiat and thus makes Muammar Qaddafi, who controls the wealth of Libya, a direct beneficiary of the deal favoring Fiat.

    Does Obama owe Qaddafi? That is a tough question to answer, but Obama’s record-shattering 700 million dollar presidential fundraising operation and a revealing speech made by Qaddafi nearly a year ago seems to undress Obama’s inexplicable sabotage of Chrysler’s negotiating position with Fiat. Before anyone was suspicious of the sources of Obama’s campaign funds, Qaddafi made a speech that was carried by al Jazeera on June 11, 2008 and translated by The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

    "All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency."

    Is Qaddafi revealing his knowledge of something that no one else even suspected at the time? Since Qaddafi’s June 08 speech other evidence has surfaced suggesting that Obama raised significant sums from dubious sources in Qaddafi’s neighborhood including tens of thousands of dollars the campaign was forced to return once it was revealed its origins were in Gaza, the Middle East. So far there has been very little interest in the sources of Obama’s massive fundraising, and with Democrats in control of both houses of Congress it is unlikely that there will be an investigation into what many believe is the most prolific fundraising abuse ever.

    Qaddafi’s prescient speech didn’t end with his apparent knowledge of Obama’s sources of campaign funds. MEMRI’s translation also included Qaddafi’s foreknowledge that Obama’s campaign rhetoric about supporting Israel was just a head fake also.

    "But we were taken by surprise when our African Kenyan brother who is an American national, made statements [about Jerusalem] that shocked all his supporters in the Arab world, in Africa, and in the Islamic world… As you know, this is the farce of elections - a person lies and lies to people, just so that they will vote for him,” Qaddafi stated in his speech that got no coverage from the main-stream American media. Since his election, it has been pro-Israel Americans who have been shocked at how quickly Obama’s policies turned hostile toward Israel, such as the 900 million in aid headed to Gaza after they attacked Israel with mortars late last year, and forcing Israel to negotiate with Hamas.

    With the precision of a campaign insider, Qaddafi also predicted a recently announced Obama policy regarding Israel nearly a year ago: "We thought he would say: 'I have decided that if I win, I will monitor the Dimona nuclear plant, and the other WMDs in Israeli's possession.”
    Last week, a state department official announced that the Obama administration would pressure Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty that would allow Obama to inspect Israel’s nuclear weapons program, something the Israelis have kept secret since its inception.

    What is most amazing is that the propaganda arm of the Middle East, the anti-American al-Jazeera network, has proven more informative about Obama’s Middle East policies than the sycophantic American media.

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    Why did Obama sell Chrysler out to Fiat?

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    Chrysler executives still hoped to avoid bankruptcy. The UAW had ratified a second round of concessions that froze wages, cut retiree health care benefits and agreed not to strike the company for more than six years. All but a handful of lenders had signed off on the U.S. Treasury's offer of $2 billion to write off $6.9 billion in Chrysler loans.
    Reluctantly, however, the leaders were recognizing the harsh decision Rattner made weeks earlier: Chrysler was filing for Chapter 11, no matter what.
    Rattner had met with Ron Kolka, Chrysler's chief financial officer, and told him how it would go.
    "We need a deal with Fiat today. We were told to pretty much take it," Kolka wrote in an e-mail to Nardelli, Vice Chairman Tom LaSorda and Robert Manzo, a financial consultant Chrysler hired in November. Rattner and his colleague Ron Bloom "will call the union in and tell them what will happen. Then they'll tell the banks, 'Here's the deal: take it or liquidate it.' "
    Obama's man called shots on bankruptcy BY GREG GARDNER - Detroit Free Press
    This whole thing stinks folks.
    Why Fiat? I thought one reason Obama and liberal democRATs sold out Chrysler to Fiat was to force production of tiny cars here in the U.S. I thought the enviro-communists saw a great opportunity in taking over a car company. I still believe this was one of the reasons but why was Obama so eager to sell Chrysler out to Fiat? Were there other reasons?
    Whose interest was President Obama serving when on March 30 he ordered Chrysler to either conclude a merger with Italian automaker Fiat within 30 days or lose federal bailout funds? That untimely announcement placed Chrysler in the untenable position of accepting whatever Fiat offered, literally cutting the legs out from under the struggling American carmaker’s negotiating platform. Some financial analysts had already determined that what Fiat was offering was a very bad deal for Chrysler. “The steal of the century,” Forbes columnist Jerry Flint wrote of the deal back in January, “Fiat gets Chrysler for next to no money, and American taxpayers must throw in $7 billion to make it happen.” By most accounts, Chrysler was in real trouble, but by announcing to the world that Chrysler had no other alternatives Obama effectively told Fiat that Chrysler would accept whatever they offered, eliminating Chrysler’s ability to cut a better deal.
    Why would President Obama undercut a US company, involved in a heated negotiation, in favor of a foreign company’s interest? Clear answers are not available, but there is one very curious shareholder in Fiat that raises some interesting questions. The African nation of Libya owns at least a 2 to 3 percent stake in Fiat and thus makes Muammar Qaddafi, who controls the wealth of Libya, a direct beneficiary of the deal favoring Fiat.
    Does Obama owe Qaddafi? That is a tough question to answer, but Obama’s record-shattering 700 million dollar presidential fundraising operation and a revealing speech made by Qaddafi nearly a year ago seems to undress Obama’s inexplicable sabotage of Chrysler’s negotiating position with Fiat.
    Obama - Qaddafi Coincidence? by Scott Wheeler - Townhall.com
    We know that Obama is paying back the unions who helped him get elected. Is he also paying back Gaddafi?
    Let's go back to 1986:
    Because of Libya's investment in Fiat, the Pentagon has decided not to award a proposed $7.9 million contract to the company under which it would have built 178 earthmovers for the U.S. Marine Corps. Reason: the Reagan Administration does not want any American money to flow--even indirectly--into the coffers of a government that sponsors international terrorism.
    Fiat's Silent Partners - Time.com
    This was back in 1986. In the year 2009, the United States has a Kenyan-Indonesian-muslim president who is paying back people who helped him fraud Americans electing him by raising $700 million during the presidential campaign. Is the terrorist Gaddafi one of his fund raisers?
    Barack Hussein Obama seems to be taking Gaddafi's advice also:
    Gaddafi said Obama should adopt a policy of supporting poor and weak peoples such as the Palestinians and be a friend of what he called free Arab peoples rather than U.S. "agents" in the Arab world who, he said, were hated by their own people.
    "We still hope he will be proud of Africa and change America and free America of its past policy, namely with the Arabs," said Gaddafi.
    Gaddafi warns Obama against "inferiority complex" - Reuters - Jun 11,2008

    Islamic socialism and pan-arabism / pan-islamism... Look at Hussein's address to the muslims where he addressed the world's muslims as a monolithic group that supposedly suffered under western economic and cultural imperialism...

    This whole thing stinks...

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    The basis for President Obama’s speech to the Muslim world June 4

    J. Michael Sharman, Editorial Columnist
    Published: June 2, 2009

    President Obama will “make a major speech on ties with Muslims” on June 4, as part of a “continuing effort of the president to engage the Muslim world.”

    The text has not yet been released, but the content of that speech has been being written throughout our president’s life.

    He was born in Hawaii to Barrack Hussein Obama Sr., a Kenyan of the Luo ethnic group, and Ann Dunham.

    “My grandfather, who was Kenyan, converted to Christianity, then converted to Islam,” Obama said. “[A]lthough my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.”

    Ann Dunham Obama next married Indonesian student, Lolo Soetoro, whose visa was revoked in 1967.

    So, when Barack was six, his family moved to Indonesia, where Barack was enrolled and listed as a Muslim attending a Muslim school in central Jakarta from 1968 to 1972.

    The Chicago Sun-Times quoted Obama’s own description of his stepfather’s faith: “Like many Indonesians, Lolo followed a brand of Islam that could make room for the remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths.”
    “In our household the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology,”1 but his own favorite book, Mr. Obama says, is “The Autobiography of Malcolm X”, Alex Haley’s book about the assassinated leader of the Nation of Islam.

    As an adult, Obama was a member of Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Chicago church for more than two decades.

    Rev. Wright’s church gave Louis Farrakhan, the current head of the Nation of Islam, its 2007 “Trumpeter Award” because, Rev. Wright said, “Minister Farrakhan will be remembered as one of the 20th and 21st century giants of the African American religious experience.”

    During the primary season, Rev. Jeremiah Wright commented: “Barack might be forced by the media and/or by supporters to be very absent from this church and to put distance between our church and himself.”

    Wright explained: “When [Obama’s] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Louis Farrakhan, “a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”

    Obama identified Rev. Wright as his “spiritual adviser” and mentor. The training he received from Wright, Obama said, “was the best education I ever had.”

    Former PLO and Arafat spokespersons Raschid and Mona Khalidi founded the Arab American Action Network in Chicago. A gala dinner was held in their honor with a commemorative book filled with testimonials, including ones from the Khaladis’ friends and Hyde Park neighbors, the ex-Weatherman domestic terrorists Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers and then-state Senator Barack Obama.

    One of Mona Khalidi’s groups had received a $40,000 grant from the Woods Fund of Chicago, when Obama and Ayers served on the fund’s board of directors.

    Khalidi told the mostly Palestinian crowd that state senator Obama deserved their help in winning a U.S. Senate seat: “You will not have a better senator under any circumstances.”

    Earlier this year, news cameras filmed President Obama bowing to Saudi King Abdullah at the Group of 20 summit in London, showing our president bent low at the waist, head lowered, and his right hand extended for King Abdullah to accept. The Saudi-backed Arabic paper Asharq Alawsat wrote approvingly: “Obama wished to demonstrate his respect and appreciation of the personality of King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz…”

    What will the president say in his June 4th speech? Whatever he says, we can only pray that it will be spoken with a respect and appreciation of the personality of the people for the United States, whose national motto is, “In God We Trust.”

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    I just posted this link on another thread, but it fits here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

    Now, I am still asking why the heck didn't McCain and others ask about his faith?

    “My grandfather, who was Kenyan, converted to Christianity, then converted to Islam,” Obama said. “[A]lthough my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.”

    So, when Barack was six, his family moved to Indonesia, where Barack was enrolled and listed as a Muslim attending a Muslim school in central Jakarta from 1968 to 1972.

    According to the above, the Muslim faith was part of his life at one time. Why couldn't people ask about his faith(s)?

    Just askin' why, that's all.
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    O what a web

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    Remember as a kid drawing connect-the-dots pictures? Simply follow the dots and a clear picture emerges. As an adult, connecting the dots of Obama's actions leads to an oxymoronic picture. A clear picture of a murky web. Obama's actions continually link him to people and causes that the majority of Americans do not support. The recent event of another aid ship sailing to Gaza is an example of to whom and what the strands of Obama's web link him, and unfortunately America.

    Last year, right around the time Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi called Obama "our son," Obama earmarked $400,000 for two Libyan charities. The money was divided between two foundations run by Gaddafi's children; Gaddafi International Charity and Development Foundation, run by his son Saif, and Wa Attassimou, run by his daughter Aicha. What noble causes did our tax dollars potentially help support thanks to Obama's generosity?

    Funding of the ship Amalthea: The Amalthea sailed to Israel with the intent of breaking the Israeli blockade on Hamas. It carried aid for a pseudo humanitarian crisis and supporters who were said to be "keen on expressing solidarity with the Palestinian people in the plight amidst the siege imposed on Gaza." The ship was funded by Saif Gaddafi's charity, Gaddafi International Charity and Development Association. Obama's friend, Bill Ayers, joined attempt #1 against Israel's blockade on Hamas. Saif joined attempt #2. One has to wonder which of Obama's friends will step up to the plate at attempt #3.

    The release of Lockerbie bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi: Saif Gaddafi was involved in negotiating the convicted bomber's release, and accompanied him back to Libya, where al-Megrahi was praised and welcomed. For those who have forgotten the extent of the carnage of the Lockerbie bombing, 270 people, including 189 Americans, were killed.

    Honoring Iraqi journalist, Muntazer al-Zaidi: Al-Zaidi is the journalist who threw his shoe at President George W. Bush. He was given a bravery award by Aicha Gaddafi's charity, Wa Attassimou. The charity stated that al-Zaidi's actions "represented a victory for human rights across the world."

    As long as we are connecting the dots between Obama and Libya, now seems a good time to remember that the state department issued an official apology to Libya after spokesman P.J. Crowley made disparaging comments about Gaddafi's call for jihad against Switzerland. Apparently Crowley spoke on instinct instead of running his reaction by Libya's "son" first. As an Obamian spinmeister, Crowley learned that one doesn't speak ill of "family."

    What a web Obama continues to spin. One can only hope he falls into it soon, before all of American is smothered by it.

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    'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on rebels

    19 Mar 2011, 1757 hrs IST, AGENCIES
    Calling Barack Obama as "our son", Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi sent a message to the US President defending his decision to attack the rebels fighting to overthrow him.

    Gaddafi(68) also wrote a letter to the French and British leaders, and the UN Secretary General, saying the Security Council resolution was "void" and violated the UN charter, warning them that they would "regret" any intervention.

    "Libya is not for you, Libya is for the Libyans," he said.

    Details of Gaddafi's letters were released by the Libyan government spokesman at a news conference in Tripoli.

    Defending his decision to attack rebel cities, Gaddafi told Obama, "Al Qaeda is an armed organisation, passing through Algeria, Mauritania and Mali. What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons? What would you do, so I can follow your example."

    Trying to strike a personal note, Gaddafi prefaced his letter saying, "To our son, his excellency, Mr Baracka Hussein Obama. I have said to you before, that even if Libya and the United States of America enter into a war, god forbid, you will always remain a son. Your picture will not be changed."

    In his letter to Nikolas Sarkozy, David Cameron and Ban Ki Moon, Gaddafi said, "Libya is not yours, Libya is for the Libyans. The security council, their resolution is void because it is not according to the charter to interfere with the internal affairs of the country."

    You have no right. You will regret if you get involved in this, our country. We can never shoot a single bullet on our people, it is Al Qaeda organisation."


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    March 19, 2011
    "Who The Hell Do You Think You Are?" Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (Video)

    Farrakhan goes on a rant on Chicago radio about Obama calling for Qaddafi to step down, this is from yesterday



    FARRAKHAN: "I warn my brother do you let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world...Why don't you organize a group of respected Americans and ask for a meeting with Qaddafi, you can't order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are?

    "Now, I want to warn you, in the Name of Allah, that this is more complex than what you think!...Don't let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world. They don't like the way you handled (former Egyptian President Hosni) Mubarak! They don't like the way you're handling the situation in the Arab world! So I would advise you to be careful-and move with wisdom and skill.

    Well, well there's a lot, now, [that are] going to ask you to step out of the White House, because they don't want a Black face in the White House"

    "Be careful, brother, how you handle this situation because it is coming to America! It has already started. Look in Wisconsin! Look in Ohio! Look at what's going on in your country!

    And remember your words because the American people are rising against their own government: It's not Muslims; it's not Black people! It's White militias that are angry with their government, and they are well armed. Are you going to tell them-'Put your arms down, and let's talk it over peacefully?' I hope so. But if not, America will be bathed in blood, not because Farrakhan said so, but because the dissatisfaction in America has reached the boiling point. Be careful how you manipulate the dissatisfaction in Libya and other parts of the Muslim world," he warned.

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    You know what I find entertaining... Remember at the height of OIF when the lefties were constantly spamming around the internet the Rumsfeld/Saddam handshake picture? Well, like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

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    Farrakhan has been saying the country "will be bathed in blood" intermittently since Obama was elected. He's upping that rhetoric nearly every time he speaks and has been warning for weeks now that what we see going on in the Middle East is 'coming here to our door'.

    Farrakhan is outlining that they aren't sure what benefit pushing Qaddafi out provides the movement of our demise, but they still trust that Obama is going to bring us down from the inside.

    Note Farrakhan has little to say about Obama's demand for Mubarak to step down and forcing out other America-friendly regimes in the Mid East to allow the Jihadist uprising to take their places in the Mid East.

    So either he knows where all this is going and hopes this is where it is headed or is simply stoking his own army for what is being orchestrated in terms of coming conflict.

    Farrakhan is also worried Obama is angering the very Muslim allies he is going to need to 'deal' with the 'militia' he cites in the transcript quoted above.

    These are the same entities the SPLC is also demonizing and advising the DHS and his Regime to take action against.

    Farrakhan is warning Obama because he understands and knows the plan Obama is implementing from the DHS Documents he has created, and his 'Civilian National Security Force' assets needed to subdue to the "White Devils", the 'White Militia' he is referring to at the end of his rant.

    Now we are getting a glimpse as to why our southern border is being deliberately left wide open by this regime, and what Obama's foreign policy really is.

    Economic ruin and starvation come first.

    When we're hungry - it's not the "economy" starving us when we start really suffering, this is by design.

    A people plagued by privation and in-fighting for their own survival make eradication justifiable and very easy.

    And should the 'counter revolution' to Obama's destructive revolution gain steam and rise up, Farrakhan is worried Obama will have isolated himself from Islamic allies that could come to his aid should the tables be turned.

    Because they know Americans are well armed and they have a plan being implemented to 'deal' with us.

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