Muslim Outrage

[Malsua]

It's funny, those that scream for the most tolerance appear to be the least tolerant.

-Mal
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OUTRAGED MUSLIMS! OH MY! We wake up this morning to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims around the world. In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup ... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting Mohammed. In fact ... here is one of my favorites!

Admit it, this turban/bomb thing could be the next big fashion hit on the Muslim street!
Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

• Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
• A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
• Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
• Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
• Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
• Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.


Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan.


I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule? Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago. "As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?"
Indeed. Why not?

[Aplomb]

Indeed why the silence by the peaceful ones? Perhaps fear? Perhaps they just don't care? Perhaps contentment in perverse ideas of justification? Silence is support if you ask me.

Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is

obviously exactly how they are raised to deal with things and people. I could go on a rant!

[catfish]

Great post Mal! I would like to add something that may get me in trouble. If God loves his Mulims so much, why does he punish them so? For starters, an Egyptian cruise ship sinks with 1300 muslims on board returning from Mecca. Earthquakes in Pakistan, Iran, Indonesia, and Kashmir. A tidal wave. The list goes on and on. Instead of practising hatred and violence in the name of Allah and Mohammed, maybe they should practise peace and forgiveness.

[Aplomb]

The Danish embassy in Syria is now ablaze. It was a Muslim cleric who called for an "International Day of Anger". And so it is. Yet again today.

In its first official comments on the caricatures, the Vatican, while deploring violent protests, said certain forms of criticism represent an "unacceptable provocation."
"The right to freedom of thought and expression ... cannot entail the right to offend the religious sentiment of believers," the Vatican said in a statement.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html
I bet a lot of people feel this way. Whoa, to address that...let us not forget...

FACTBOX: Islam and blasphemy in the arts Wed Feb 1, 2006 12:22 PM ET (Reuters) - A French newspaper reprinted on Wednesday a series of 12 Danish newspaper cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammad that have sparked protests in the Muslim world and prompted Saudi Arabia to recall its ambassador from Denmark. Here is a short factbox of other publications or artworks criticized by some Muslims as blasphemous. * 1989 - Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini calls on all Muslims to kill British author Salman Rushdie for blasphemy against Islam in his book "The Satanic Verses". * 1994 - Taslima Nasreen flees Bangladesh for Sweden after court charges her with "maliciously hurting Muslim religious sentiments". Some Muslims demand she be killed for her book "Lajja" (Shame), banned for blasphemy and suggesting free sex. * 1995 - Egyptian court brands academic Nasr Hamed Abu Zaid an apostate because of his writings on Islam and annuls his marriage on grounds that a Muslim may not be married to an apostate. Abu Zaid and his wife move to the Netherlands. * 2002 - Nigerian journalist Isioma Daniel incenses Muslims by writing in ThisDay newspaper that Prophet Mohammad would have approved of "Miss World" contest and might have wed a beauty queen. Muslim-Christian riots in northen city of Kaduna kill 200. Daniel flees Nigeria after fatwa urges Muslims to kill her. * 2004 - Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh is murdered after release of his film "Submission" about violence against women in Islamic societies. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Somali-born member of Dutch parliament who wrote script, plans another film about Islam's attitude to gays. She has also received death threats. * 2005 - London's Tate Britain museum removes "God is Great sculpture" by John Latham from exhibition for fear of offending Muslims, citing "sensitive climate" after July suicide bombings.

© Reuters 2006. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by caching, framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters and the Reuters sphere logo are registered trademarks and trademarks of the Reuters group of companies around the world.

http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsAr...l&related=true

The paper's editor, Carsten Juste, said that the cartoons were a test of whether the threat of Islamic terrorism had limited the freedom of expression in Denmark.

Islam vs. Free Speech: The Case of Denmark



Since the murder of the Islam critical Dutch film director Theo van Gogh, Danish artists have become fearful of criticising Islam. Author KÃ¥re Bluitgen is due to publish a book on the prophet Muhammad, but so far no one had agreed to illustrate the work through fear of reprisals from Islamic extremists. Daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten responded by asking 40 illustrators to make drawings of Muhammad. Twelve illustrators heeded the newspaper's call, and sent in cartoons of the prophet which were published in the newspaper. Some Muslims took offence, as pictorial depictions of Muhammad are banned in Islam.

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/10...f-denmark.html

BTW, in that article posted at cnn.com--this is how it ends:

CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons out of respect for Islam.

I'd like to see the day that this rationale pertains to Christian sensibilities. But then again, Christians aren't going to violently riot in anger over cartoons insulting our faith. Or shoot a film maker several times, slash his throat, and leave a couple of daggers in the guy.

[Ryan Ruck]

And just to piss off CNN AND Muslims...

[PsycoJoe]

A-frelling-men!

All that 'outrage' over a cartoon. How about we really get the old self-destruction ball of jihad rolling by getting downright 'nasty'? Like, oh....branding Mecca as a haven for sodomites and alcoholics? Calling the Dome of the Rock a bordello? Muhammed was the biggest fudge-packer alive?

Islam uber Allah!


(Oh, Aplomb....they're called 'The Crusades' and 'The Inquisition'.....)

[catfish]

A-frelling-men!

All that 'outrage' over a cartoon. How about we really get the old self-destruction ball of jihad rolling by getting downright 'nasty'? Like, oh....branding Mecca as a haven for sodomites and alcoholics? Calling the Dome of the Rock a bordello? Muhammed was the biggest fudge-packer alive?

Islam uber Allah!


(Oh, Aplomb....they're called 'The Crusades' and 'The Inquisition'.....)

Joe, you forgot pedophile. Mohammed married a 9 year old girl and often remarked she was his favorite wife. I dont recall Jesus ever molesting children or for that matter starting wars.

[Aplomb]

That's old stuff PJoe. And like the above that leaves out the cartoons being posted after nobody would illustrate a children's book for fear of retaliation after the film maker was murdered, there's more history to Christianity than kids learn in school. The inquisition was only directed toward Catholics. There were a lot of rules that prevented much injustices. The crusades was a defensive war. 2/3 of Christiandom was conquered by Islam and all of Africa and the Turkish areas were all once Christian. It was not an outright attack. We get our just war theory from Christianity. Catholics are the only faith in the world that adhere to a just war theory. It is "just" to defend oneself from an aggressor. That's not to say that there have not been abuses, but in general that's how it works. You can read more on that from any historian who knows the history of the Crusades. Be careful all as history tends to repeat itself.

Unlike becoming violent and irrational I just presented the truth. It is the Christian way.

[Aplomb]

Danish cartoonists fear for their lives From Anthony Browne in Brussels

TWELVE Danish cartoonists whose pictures sparked such outcry have gone into hiding under round-the-clock protection, fearing for their lives. The cartoonists, many of whom had reservations about the pictures, have been shocked by how the affair has escalated into a global “clash of civilisations”. They have since tried, unsuccessfully, to stop them being reprinted. A spokesman for the cartoonists said: “They are in hiding around Denmark. Some of them are really, really scared. They don’t want to see the pictures reprinted all over the world. We couldn’t stop it. We tried, but we couldn’t.” Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard, president of the Danish Union of Journalists, told The Times: “They are keeping a very low profile. They are very concerned about their safety. They feel a big responsibility on their shoulders. It’s blown up so big. It is tough for them.” The cartoonists’ names were originally printed in the Danish paper Jyllands-Posten. Flemming Rose, the paper’s cultural editor, invited 25 newspaper cartoonists to draw a picture of Muhammad “how they saw him”, after a children’s author complained that cartoonists would only dare illustrate a book he was writing on the life of Muhammad if they could be anonymous. Twelve cartoonists responded, had their pictures printed in September, and were paid 800 Danish krone (£73) each. In an interview with a Swedish newspaper this week, some of the cartoonists expressed their doubts about the entire episode. “It felt a little like a lose-lose situation. If I said no, I was a coward who contributes to self-censorship. If I said yes, I became an irresponsible hate monger against Islam,” one of the cartoonists said. Another said: “I was actually angry when I first received the letter [from Jyllands-Posten]. I thought it was a really bad idea. At first I didn’t want to participate, but then I talked it over with some friends from the Middle East, and they thought I should do it.” The cartoonists come from a variety of different political backgrounds, which is reflected in their work. While some of the pictures satirise Muhammad, others attack populist right-wing politicians and even Jyllands-Posten itself, which is rightwing. Having failed to stop the cartoons being reprinted across Europe, the cartoonists have now decided to use all the money raised from the sales of the pictures to set up a foundation which will award an annual international prize for press freedom.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...4306-3,00.html

They would deserve it themselves if they hadn't been trying to stop the reprints. I don't know how long they think they can hide when they've had their pictures published. Trying to stop it will hold no value to radical Muslims. Certainly these cartoonists are counting down their days of life left. Press freedom. NO, it isn't possible w/ regard to Islam. Better use that money and buy yourselves some weapons.

[Aplomb]

Catholic priest killed in Turkey



A teenage boy shot and killed the Italian Roman Catholic priest of a church in the Black Sea port city of Trabzon on Sunday, shouting "God is great" as he escaped, police and witnesses said. (AP)


(02.06.06, 00:24)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...211553,00.html
I'm wondering if this murder may be part of the current cartoon retaliation.

[Aplomb]

Furthermore, when a delegation of Danish imams went to the Middle East to discuss the issue of the cartoons with senior officials and prominent Islamic scholars, the imams openly distributed a booklet that showed not only the original 12 cartoons, but three fraudulent anti-Mohammed depictions that were much more offensive than the ones published in Denmark. It is now thought that these three bonus images are what ignited the outrage in the Muslim world. The newspaper Ekstra Bladet obtained a copy of the booklet and presented the three offensive images on its Web site (though not in an easy-to-find place). All look like low-quality photocopies. Here they are: http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/
(Hat tip: Gerry, Martin H., and rfs.)

This is near the bottom of the page. Following are recent responses by more cartoonists. AND THESE ARE REALLY GOOD!

[PsycoJoe]

Nice. When to the swaztikas start appearing on the mosques?

[ExplodedMind]

Suddenly nobody in the TV or dead tree media wants to publish these cartoons. They won't be publishing any new ones that are similar, either.

Due to FEAR. Which is how Islamofascists have declared they will defeat us.

It's working...this is only the beginning.

EM

[Aplomb]

Italian Catholic priest killed in Turkey, police says

Suzan Fraser

Canadian Press

Sunday, February 05, 2006

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - An Italian Roman Catholic priest was shot and killed Sunday in the courtyard of his church in the Black Sea port city of Trabzon, Turkish police said.

Officers were searching for a teenage boy who witnesses said carried out the attack, according to a police official who declined to be identified because of rules that bar Turkish civil servants from speaking to journalists without prior authorization.


The police official would not say if the attack might have been linked to the printing in European newspapers of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, which has caused anger in Muslim countries. Earlier Sunday, some 300 Turks protested in Istanbul against the printing of the cartoons.

The priest, identified as Andrea Santaro, 60, was shot in the chest with a single bullet around 3:30 p.m., local time, hours after a Sunday mass, according to private NTV television.

His body was found in the courtyard, just outside the door of the 19th Century Santa Maria Church, which was built under Ottoman Sultan Abdulmecid to serve Christians visiting Trabzon.

"We condemn the attack against a man of religion," Trabzon's Governor Huseyin Yavuzdemir said. "Police are trying to catch the culprit in line with the witnesses' descriptions."

Police cordoned off a street leading to the church.

Earlier, some 300 ultranationalist Turks marched to the Danish consulate in Istanbul to protest caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad which were first printed in a Danish newspaper. The protesters hurled eggs at the building and burned a Danish flag. In a separate protest, also in Istanbul, some 2,000 people shouted slogans and burned an effigy of the Danish prime minister before dispersing peacefully.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Sunday that Turkey approved neither the publishing of the cartoons nor the violent demonstrations staged in protest.

"An irresponsible caricaturist comes and attacks my prophet, he has no right," Erdogan said, addressing his party supporters in Istanbul.
"(But) to burn and to destroy is also wrong," Erdogan said. "There is no solution at the end of the gun."

© The Canadian Press 2006

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/wo...9b08b8&k=90709

[catfish]

And this is a more traditional portrait.



I got this off of one of the sites Aplomb posted and it cracked me up so much just had to share it. What can I say, I played with Legos all my life.

[PsycoJoe]

For the record: I have no problem with the Islamic religion.

It's the followers of that religion that I take issues with. They feel free, or perhaps 'justified' is the better term, to not only denigrate the faith of others, but take extreme umbrage should someone take a crack at theirs. No matter it's a relatively mild shot. These extremist nutjobs are more than willing to fight on the drop of a turban.

Urmmm....I'll stop here before I get myself banned.

[Aplomb]

Mona Omar Attia, Egypt's ambassador to Denmark, said after a meeting with Rasmussen that she was satisfied with the position of the Danish government but noted the prime minister had said he could not interfere with the press.
"This means the whole story will continue and that we are back to square one again. The government of Denmark has to do something to appease the Muslim world," Attia said.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html
Got that? These people are violent and they will handle the slightest insult with physical harm. Start printing the truth about "youths" being "Muslims" rioting, "protesters" being "raucus thugs", and for God's sake stop apologizing. Yes, we all understand we ought to respect somebody else's religion. They will never respect any religion except Islam. And yet all across the world they call a jihad and we are all expected to help to calm them down. It is actually even our responsibility to do something in order to prevent them from harming innocents who had absolutely nothing to do with these stupid cartoons. Islam is a religion of intimidation. Bullies is what these Muslims are. And bullies bank on everybody keeping their mouths shut. When you stand up to them, exposing them for what they are, they do seek revenge. If nobody says anything, bad things continue. Bad boys don't need appeasement, they need to suffer some consequences. Even if they try to get even. But this isn't going to happen. Too many of us think about avoiding further problems than trying to deal with serious issues, especially if it's at a cost. And unfortunately, it will cost us anyway, it already is.

[catfish]

I have actually read that some moderate religious leaders are calling for an end to the violence. Not seeing an end though. This is why it will take so long for democracy to be established iin the Middle East. In order for democracy to last and stay strong you need two things. Freedom of the press and freedom of religion. Muslims seem to not tolerate either of these. Even in Europe where Muslim populations have soared recently, they dont respect their respective country's laws.

I sometimes think there is only one solution as sad as it seems. I think Ann Coulter said it best, "We need to invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."

I see no end to the violence, something will always set them off.

[Brian Baldwin]

So-called "moderate" Islam leaders are usually no such thing. They denounce the violence then turn a blind eye there after. Until these "Moderates" start to involve themselves beyond a quip to the local newspapers then I don't think I'll be believing much of what they say.

Brian

[ExplodedMind]

Hello All: "Moderate" Muslim leaders need to point out something else:

ISLAMIC RULE DOES NOT APPLY TO NON-MUSLIMS!

Do Mormons insist that all non-Mormons give up alcohol and coffee?

Do Jews insist that all prepared food everywhere be kosher?

Do Christians threaten to riot if non-Christians are not baptized?

What's next from the Muslims? All women everywhere must cover their heads? Wear burkhas? Only show their faces to their husbands? The list of rules is long.

This "created crisis" was started by the Saudis to deflect attention from the stampede deaths at the Hajj. They used cartoons from 4 months ago, added some of their own, and had someone ship all those Danish flags to Gaza for burning.

EM