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    Default Pentagon Envisions End Of The C-17

    Another brilliant move by the DoD considering that our airlift capability has been heavily taxed by OEF/OIF. Well, at least they will be putting the tooling in mothball which is more than what they did for the F-14…

    Pentagon Envisions End Of The C-17
    WASHINGTON -- A Pentagon defense review Friday forecast shutting down C-17 production after the completion of the 180 planes planned, despite congressional objections to such a move when it became public several months ago.

    The C-17 is the primary aircraft used to carry troops to the battlefield and is made by Boeing Co. at a Long Beach plant that employs more than 6,000 workers.

    It's the last military plane to be built by the once-thriving Southern California aerospace industry.

    The Defense Department's Quadrennial Defense Review, required by Congress every four years, says the department will complete the existing C-17 contract while considering acquiring a proposed new tanker aircraft and modernizing another transport plane, the larger C-5.

    With the last of the 180 C-17s scheduled for delivery in 2008, production would start to wind down relatively soon.

    After that, according to the Pentagon report, production equipment would be moved into storage to keep open the possibility of procuring additional C-17s in the future.

    The report prompted complaints on Capitol Hill, where the C-17 has many defenders. After reports of the Pentagon's plans became public in November, Congress in its 2006 defense bill authorized the Air Force to build an additional 42 C-17s and told the Defense Department to look at different criteria in assessing the need for more lift aircraft.

    "The Air Force had identified a need for additional C-17 aircraft, and given the aircraft's outstanding performance in providing airlift support for both war time and humanitarian missions, I think we should be building more C-17s, not killing this important program," said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. "Mothballing the line is a waste of taxpayer money, and I am working with my colleagues to see that the C-17 line stays open."

    More details on the fate of the C-17 will become clear on Monday, when the Pentagon report will be sent to Capitol Hill with President Bush's proposed $439 billion Pentagon budget for 2007.

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    Default US Air Force To Ask For More C-17s As Unfunded Priority

    US Air Force To Ask For More C-17s As Unfunded Priority
    The U.S. Air Force will soon ask Congress for more Boeing Co. (BA) C-17 planes as an "unfunded priority," in hopes of extending production for the long-range cargo jet, Pentagon officials say.

    The Air Force is set to send a big wish list to Congress, possibly late Friday. It probably will include around 10 C-17s, although officers involved in the deliberations said Thursday that the number wasn't yet set.

    Once that request reaches Capitol Hill, it will trigger a new round of jockeying between Boeing and the government. Boeing says it needs a Defense Department commitment on more orders by March 1. Otherwise, it will start laying off suppliers, with an eye toward ending production in mid-2009.

    The Air Force's request won't ensure the C-17's future. But it probably would postpone another aerospace industry game of chicken. Last year, Boeing told some suppliers to stop work in August; work resumed once Congress added 10 extra planes to the Air Force budget.

    This year's request will be especially important for the C-17's long-term prospects. If Boeing can cobble together another year's worth of orders - 12 to 15 planes - it could still have a warm production line when the Air Force decides on the fate of its oldest C-5 Galaxy cargo jets. Congress has blocked retiring those planes, made by Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT), until the Air Force reviews several studies on upgrade options.

    This week, the Air Force acknowledged that its plan to put new engines on the C-5s is more expensive than expected. That upgrade project "is experiencing cost-growth pressures," spokeswoman Capt. Anna Carpenter said.

    Analysts said service leaders want to think new.

    "The Air Force leadership has decided that it makes more sense to retire the 76 C-5A Galaxies in the active fleet than to modernize them, because it doubts that programmed upgrades will deliver the mission-capable rate desired," said Lexington Institute defense analyst Loren Thompson.

    The Air Force's official plan calls for ending C-17 purchases in 2009 after a 190-aircraft run. The Pentagon's 2008 budget request seeks $700 million to start C-17 line shutdown. Maj. Gen. Frank Faykes, the Air Force's budget director, said the money could shift as conditions changed.

    "I won't speculate on what it could be reallocated to, but I imagine you could do many things," Faykes told reporters in a Feb. 2 budget briefing.

    In background briefings to analysts and reporters, the Air Force has discussed seeking as many as 15 more C-17s. That number recently has fallen as the service debates its combat workload and how it uses contracted airliners in the Civil Reserve Air Fleet.

    Boeing is waiting for the Air Force's next move. The company has cut about six months off the C-17 line's projected lifespan because some prospective international orders didn't pan out.

    "The C-17 program is again at a critical juncture," said Boeing spokesman Rick Sanford, noting the 34-month lead time required for each plane.

    "In the absence of a DoD commitment to procure additional C-17s in fiscal year 2008 and beyond, after March 1, 2007, Boeing and its suppliers will not continue working on aircraft beyond current customer commitments," Sanford said.

    Boeing has been marketing the plane around the world. But non-U.S. customers like Canada and the U.K. typically buy only a few planes at a time, not enough to keep the line open.

    Goodrich Corp. (GR) and privately held Vought Aircraft Industries Inc. are two suppliers that would be first affected by any decision to shut down the supply chain. Last year, Vought said it was able to mitigate the effects of Boeing's work stoppage by shifting personnel to other C-17 parts that were still in the pipeline.

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    Default Boeing Says To Fund C-17 Production Itself

    Boeing Says To Fund C-17 Production Itself
    Boeing Co (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Friday it would use its own money to carry on production of its C-17 military transport plane, despite a lack of firm new orders, in the expectation that Congress will ultimately fund further U.S. Air Force purchases of the plane.

    The future of Boeing's C-17, the workhorse airlifter for the U.S. armed forces, has been in doubt for some time as the Pentagon has refused to add funding for planes beyond the 190 it has on order, and international sales have been weak.

    Citing Congressional support for more C-17s, Boeing said it was now funding production of 30 extra planes, twice the amount that the Air Force has been pushing for.

    "Because of continued bipartisan congressional support, and increasing public indications that the U.S. Air Force has requirements for additional C-17s, Boeing has extended company funding for production parts to now include a total of 30 new aircraft beyond the 190 currently on contract until June, 2008," Boeing said in a statement on Friday.

    Earlier this month, Gen. Norton Schwartz, who heads the U.S. Transportation Command, said the Department of Defense needed 205 C-17s -- 15 more than are currently planned -- to meet its own military requirements.

    Pentagon acquisition chief John Young has rejected the need for any more of the transport planes, calling the desire for more C-17s an Air Force "dream list".

    However, Congress has added 18 C-17s to the defense budget over the past two years to keep the Boeing C-17 production line rolling and safeguard jobs.

    The Pentagon did not include any funding for the plane in the Air Force part of its budget request for fiscal 2009, but Rep. John Murtha, a Pennsylvania Democrat and chairman of the House Appropriations Committee defense subcommittee, has vowed to add more C-17s to the war budget for 2008.

    Last March, Boeing said it was preparing to wind down the C-17 production line by mid-2009, stopping the procurement of parts for planes with no funding, because of the lack of new orders. It reversed that decision three months later, saying it would fund production of ten more planes itself.

    Boeing said its decision to invest its own money on the C-17 line was entirely at its own risk and would have no negative impact on the U.S. government. It said it had not consulted with the U.S. Air Force on the decision.

    Boeing is especially keen to carry on making planes for the U.S. military after it lost out to rival Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Europe's EADS (EAD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) in a contest to build $35 billion worth of refueling tankers for the U.S. Air Force in February. Boeing has since challenged the award of that contract with the government.

    The company has so far delivered 171 C-17s to the U.S. military, out of the total 190 on order, from its plant in Long Beach, California.
    I'm glad Boeing is doing this. The government is being very shortsighted in not putting more funding toward airlift capability. It is already stretched thin and we are having to rely on Russia, of all people, to supplement it.

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    Default Boeing Delivers Last C-17 to US Air Force

    Boeing Delivers Last C-17 to US Air Force

    LOS ANGELES September 12, 2013 (AP)
    By CHRISTOPHER WEBER Associated Press






    Boeing has delivered the final C-17 produced for the U.S. Air Force, more than two decades after the mammoth and versatile transport plane was rolled out as the Cold War wound down.


    Military officials took delivery of the C-17 Globemaster III — the 223rd sold to the Air Force — during a ceremony Thursday attended by workers at Boeing's Long Beach, Calif., assembly plant.


    The massive, four-engine C-17 made its debut in 1991. It quickly became a war and disaster workhorse.


    The Long Beach assembly line still has pending orders in the foreign market. Boeing's overseas customers include the United Kingdom, Australia, India and NATO.

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    Long Beach Boeing Delivers Final C-17 Cargo Plane to U.S. Military


    Photo courtesy of U.S. Air Force
    Boeing saw the end to an era Thursday morning when the 233rd and final domestically-built C-17 "Globemaster III" transport plane was delivered to the U.S. Air Force.
    Famed for its sturdy cargo transport ideal for military, humanitarian and peacekeeping missions, the C-17 has made global deliveries through rough terrain since the 1990s.
    The C-17 is also a symbol of Long Beach ingenuity, constructed by Boeing in its Long Beach facility, the last production bastion of L.A's once expansive aerospace industry.
    Air Force officials-- Gen. Paul Selva, commander of Air Mobility Command, Lt. Gen. Stanley Clarke III, director of Air National Guard and Lt. Gen. James Jackson, commander of Air Force Reserve Command--received the aircraft at the final delivery ceremony early Thursday morning, fulfilling and ending the Air Force's $500 million contract with Boeing.
    The ceremony not only marks the end of a 20-year line of C-17s, but it is also a time of reflection for the company's more than 4,000 employees, the Press-Telegram reported.
    Before merging with Boeing, the McDonnell Douglas Corp., beginning production in 1981, faced threats by the U.S. Government to cut production at 40 transports.
    “For a while there, we were going to end this thing a long time ago,” said Flight Dispatcher John Martinelli.
    Since then, 250 aircrafts have been built at the Boeing Long Beach Facility.
    But the end of an era is not the end of production. Aircraft construction will continue in Long Beach for now, as Boeing is under contract for ten more jet planes for the government of India. With a $4.1 billion deal, India is Boeing's largest foreign buyer.
    The Long Beach constriction plant is expected to remain open after that in hopes of gaining new international contracts and aircraft orders. Failing production contracts, Boeing has plans to establish a new engineering design center in Long Beach, and has relocates some Seattle commercial plane engineers near the Long Beach International Airport.
    For more news on the C-17, visit Boeing.com.

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    Great idea since we've ragged out our airlift over the last 12 years.

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    Boeing Cuts Final C-17 Output By Three Jets, Ends Production Early

    April 7, 2014

    Boeing Co will produce three fewer of its famed C-17 cargo-carrying military transport planes than expected as it closes the production line, reflecting further decline in demand for the aircraft, the company said on Monday.

    Boeing said that it would shut the production line in Southern California three months earlier than anticipated, in mid-2015 instead of late 2015, a decision that affects about 2,200 workers there. The closure also affects 300 workers in St. Louis, 300 in Macon, Georgia, and fewer than 200 in Mesa, Arizona, spokeswoman Cindy Anderson said.

    Boeing first announced plans to close the line last September, and at the time said it would produce 22 more of the four-engine planes, which are capable of carrying heavy machinery, tanks and medical supplies around the globe. It has since delivered five of the planes. It now plans to build 10 in 2014 and seven in 2015.

    "Based on current market trends and the timing of expected orders ... we have decided to build three fewer aircraft in 2015," Anderson said.

    Boeing cited faltering sales when it announced plans to close the line last September. Of the 262 jets delivered so far, 223 went to the U.S. Air Force. The Air Force, which is under budget pressure, took delivery of its final new C-17 last year.

    Foreign sales have not offset the loss of U.S. military orders. Boeing said it has logged 39 foreign sales to Australia, Canada, India, Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Britain and a 12-nation group known as the Strategic Airlift Capability consortium.

    A sale to Kuwait in February put the price for one plane and related equipment, training and support, at $371 million, according to the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency.

    By ending the C-17 program early, Boeing will take an inventory-related charge of $50 million in the first quarter. That charge is in addition to pension-related charges of less than $100 million that Boeing previously said it would take in closing the line.

    Boeing is in the process of laying off up to 3,000 employees who worked on the program, and expects the job reductions to be completed by mid-2015, Anderson said.

    She said workers are being offered jobs at other Boeing factories and that retirement and attrition also will reduce the number of layoffs required.

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    Boeing Auctioning Equipment As It Closes C-17 Plant In Long Beach

    June 13, 2015

    Once there were so many workers building military cargo jets at Boeing's sprawling plant in Long Beach that employees put flags on their cars to find them in the vast parking lot.

    Now the parking lot is nearly empty. There are no "going out of business" signs posted out front, but this month the company is holding its first auction of the plant's mammoth equipment.

    The 25-acre factory that assembled 279 of the workhorse C-17 air haulers is being disassembled.

    Workers are putting the final touches on the last eight planes, but already four of the five manufacturing bays sit nearly silent.

    During production, employees wore earplugs because of the clattering racket. Now birds sing from the rafters.

    "The first time I heard the birds, it was a reality check," said Tiffany Pitts, a Boeing Co. spokeswoman who took The Times to see the equipment being auctioned off.

    "Boeing is not going away in California," Pitts added, "but that doesn't change the sad fact that this plant is closing down."

    The plant's closure is a painful loss for Long Beach's economy and the end of an era in which Southern California's aerospace industry, and its high-paying factory jobs, helped build a strong middle class.

    The C-17 is the last major military or civilian aircraft to be assembled in California — although there is hope for the future.

    Just 20 miles north, upstart SpaceX is building rockets, engines and spacecraft in Hawthorne for a fast-growing list of government and commercial customers. Virgin Galactic recently announced that it would build its new satellite-launching rocket in Long Beach. The Pentagon continues to buy drones built in Southern California. And the state could win a big chunk of the work on a new stealth bomber the Pentagon has planned.

    Michael Conway, Long Beach's economic development director, said officials are working with Boeing as the company decides what to do with the site, which years ago employed as many as 6,000 workers.

    "It's been like a big brother to the city," Conway said of the plant. "It's a very sad event."

    The Long Beach plant was built in the late 1980s by Douglas Aircraft Co., which won the Air Force contract to build the C-17 Globemaster III. Douglas then became McDonnell Douglas Corp. In late 1996, Boeing announced that it was purchasing its longtime rival.

    The factory is part of what was once an immense aircraft manufacturing complex dating to World War II. Tens of thousands of people worked in the facility's hangars, building planes like the MD-80 jetliner, the Boeing 717 and earlier, during the war, the B-17 bomber.

    Those other hangars were shut down long ago. Boeing sold much of the site in 2012 to Sares-Regis Group of Irvine. Sares-Regis has been leasing parcels to companies including Mercedes-Benz, which recently built a large facility there.

    The wide-bellied C-17 can carry 80 tons of troops and supplies. Equipment as large as the Army's M-1 Abrams tank can roll through its rear door.

    The four-engine cargo hauler can take off and land in remote regions that lack modern runways. It is frequently used on disaster relief and medical evacuation missions.

    With wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Pentagon has flown the C-17 more than it planned.

    The Air Force bought 223 of the planes, the last delivered in 2013. In recent years, Boeing has sold several dozen more to foreign militaries, but not enough to continue production. The company announced in September 2013 that it would close the line.

    In a report last fall, Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace analyst with Teal Group, wrote that the Air Force could find in a few years that it needs more C-17s but it has no production line.

    "When the Air Force began C-17 procurement," Aboulafia explained in an email, "it hadn't intended to fight two wars on the other side of the planet."

    Ed Gulick, an Air Force spokesman, said no C-17 is expected to be retired until the 2040s.

    He said the Air Force was working with Boeing to identify equipment and tools in the plant that are needed to sustain and repair the fleet over the next decades. A 2012 contract allows the government to pay up to $500 million to Boeing for the equipment, parts and data needed to keep the air haulers flying.

    Boeing hired an auction firm to collect bids on two dozen of the plant's machines and tools. Included is the elephantine equipment making up the fuselage assembly line, which built the planes at a clip of up to 16 a year, according to the auction catalog.

    Another for-sale item: a Gemcor Drivmatic fastening machine that drills and installs rivets with a force of 50,000 pounds and then shaves the top so the rivet is flush with the wing's skin. The robot installs rivets at a rate of six to nine a minute.

    Also on the block is an automated wing spar assembly tool that uses electromagnetic energy to install fasteners. In addition, two industrial vacuum systems, two Siemens control centers and various spare parts are for sale.

    The auction firm, Heritage Global Partners of San Diego, said it had received interest from around the world.

    David Barkoff, the firm's sales director, called the auction "a phenomenal opportunity" for aerospace, maritime, automotive and other manufacturers to buy tools that are in "great condition."

    The auction by sealed bidding closes June 23.

    On a tour of the closed sections of the plant in late May, much of the machinery was roped off with yellow "Caution" tape.

    Signs posted near some machines read, "Production Complete. Do not enter." A faint smell of grease and metal lingered in the air.

    Boeing was Southern California's largest private employer at one time. But the aerospace giant has cut its California workforce every year since 2001, according to its records.

    At the beginning of the year, Boeing had 17,566 employees in the Golden State — half of the 35,000 employed here 10 years ago.

    The company has been moving operations to states with lower taxes and labor costs, including South Carolina, Alabama and Oklahoma.

    So far this year, Boeing has reported the expected layoffs of 739 California workers to the state.

    Those layoffs included 397 in Long Beach and an additional 189 in El Segundo, where Boeing builds satellites. The company reported 153 layoffs in Huntington Beach, where its programs include a Phantom Works research team that focuses on secret "black budget" projects for the Pentagon.

    In a statement, Boeing said that often workers receiving those layoff notices are reassigned or take voluntary retirement. The layoffs, the company said, were necessary to manage costs and increase productivity. It blamed caps on Pentagon spending required by automatic budget cuts known as sequestration.

    Boeing announced last year that it was moving 1,000 engineering positions in its commercial aircraft division to Seal Beach and Long Beach, which has helped offset some of the California reductions. The company said it was "committed to preserving as much of our skilled California workforce as possible."

    Randy Sossaman, president of United Auto Workers Local 148, said there are now fewer than 400 union members working at the C-17 plant. Over the last year, Boeing has been issuing layoff notices about every two weeks, Sossaman said. Each time, he said, 25 to 70 people have been let go.

    Many of the workers have retired. Boeing says some have found positions elsewhere in the company, although Sossaman said the firm is not currently offering such transfers.

    Boeing's C-17 program manager, Nan Bouchard, said production on the last C-17 should be complete before year's end.

    Executives don't know what they will do with the factory, Bouchard said. There are no plans to build another plane or anything else there.

    Boeing, she said, may put the site up for sale.

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