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    Default DHS/FBI/JATF Raids In MI and OH

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    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1019715&page=1

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    http://www.wxyz.com/mostpopular/story/FBI-Conducts-Raids/eE6ZljBWa0uFOMUdtOLzvw.cspx

    FBI Conducts Raids

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    (WXYZ) - The FBI was conducting raids Saturday night at multiple locations in southeast Michigan.

    Action News has learned Homeland Security and the Joint Anti-terrorism Task Force is also involved in a major operation.

    Federal officials would not say who they were targeting or where, but the FBI has set up a command center at the Washtenaw County Sheriff's Department in Ann Arbor, where they have brought in two satellite trucks and a radio tower.

    Agents have also obtained search warrants and multiple arrests have been made.

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    Still here!

    Oh crap, I shouldn't have brought attention to myself...


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    Video of a local news report:


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    I have to wonder what motivated these idiots to make pipe bombs.

    IE: has this manufacturing been a long-term project, or has current events spurred a new manufacturing project?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/28/arrests-alleged-militia-activity-midwest/

    Updated March 28, 2010
    Arrests Made in Alleged Militia Activity in Midwest


    Seven people have been arrested for allegedly selling pipe bombs in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana, Fox News has learned.

    The arrests and raids in Michigan and Indianapolis are related to alleged militia activity in the region, but are not related to international terrorism.

    There is not a current threat to the public, according to a law enforcement source.

    An official for the FBI's Michigan bureau said initial court appearances are expected in Michigan on Monday.

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    Ryan, I like the ammo bunker.

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    Hehe... Shamelessly stolen from someone on ARFCOM a while back.

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    Duh!

    Last edited by Backstop; March 28th, 2010 at 17:35.

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    HAHA!

    Ryan, you're killing me!

    My post above yours with "Duh" is where I posted the exact same article you just did.

    Thing is, it's from 2007.

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    Fixed, lol.

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    Why does anyone need to sell pipe bombs? Any idiot that wants pipe bombs can simply make the damn things. The only slightly iffy thing is getting some fuse but the rest of the stuff is off the shelf.
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    Fuse is just as easy to get... http://www.cannonfuse.com/

    Ah shit... Now I'm probably on that list.

    But seriously, they have all sorts of fuses that are great for setting up some nice 4th of July home displays.

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    The only thing I meant was that Fuse isn't something you can buy at the local hardware store, typically anyway.
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    Ah... Gotcha.

    They also have fuse that works great for making homemade smoke bombs!

    Hopefully I'll get some time to do a writeup on that since I'm pretty sure people don't want to spend $40+ on ALS smoke grenades but wouldn't mind adding some smoke to their gear.

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    They are unsealing the charges today. Weapons charges certainly, mostly petty bullshit I suspect. Constructive possession, like owning something that could be made into an automatic sear? Or will it just be owning pipe, gun powder, fuses and vasoline?
    ""Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957) "
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    It's getting interesting...

    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/...tian-militias/

    Amidst record levels of Islamic terrorism in U.S., FBI raids Christian militia groups
    Posted on March 28, 2010 by creeping

    According to the report below, a militia member who was contacted for help is of “Islamic descent” and is now working with the FBI. Ummah before infidel. via Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group | The Detroit News.

    “Last night and into today the FBI conducted a raid against homes belonging to the Hutaree. They are a religious cult. They are not part of our militia community,” he said.

    Lackomar said he was told there were five arrests Saturday and another five early Sunday. The FBI declined to comment.

    One of the Hutaree members called a Michigan militia leader for assistance Saturday after federal agents had already began their raid, Lackomar said, but the militia member — who is of Islamic decent and had heard about the threats — declined to offer help. That Michigan militia leader is now working with federal officials to provide information on the Hutaree member for the investigation, Lackomar said Sunday.

    “They are more of survivalist group and in an emergency they withdraw and stand their ground. They are actively training to be alongside Jesus,” he said.

    Sources from the Michigan militia community said one of the FBI raids took place Saturday during a wake for a Hutaree member who had died of natural causes. A Hutaree leader was arrested during the wake while at the same time agents were conducting raids at other locations.

    The Associated Press is reporting that FBI spokesman Scott Wilson in Cleveland said agents arrested two people Saturday in northwest Ohio. A third arrest was made in Illinois on Sunday, a day after raids in northwest Indiana.

    Dawud Walid, executive director of the Council on Islamic-American Relations of Michigan, made an announcement Sunday during the group’s 10th anniversary banquet about receiving a call from a network journalist about the alleged threat against Muslims.

    “Don’t allow this news to scare you away from practicing your faith,” said Walid.
    Audible gaps were heard throughout the banquet hall when the news was announced.

    Walid said he will call local authorities about more information on the allegations. He urged local Muslims to recommitt themselves to their faith in light of the accusations.

    Meanwhile, video evidence of Islamic compounds created by Muslims to train Muslims in guerrilla warfare to kill Americans go un-investigated by authorities. Dictator in Chief conveniently out of country.

    Update from Faux Fox News – a small army, a command center, helicopters and a massive operation needed for:

    Seven people have been arrested for allegedly selling pipe bombs in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana, Fox News has learned.

    Raids in Ohio and Indiana as well.

    No raids reported at Islamic jihadi camps, or CAIR headquarters.
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    Christian Militia groups huh?

    Wow.
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    http://detnews.com/article/20100328/...militia-group=

    Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group
    Jennifer Chambers / The Detroit News

    At least seven people, including some from Michigan, have been arrested in raids by a FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana as part of an investigation into an Adrian-based Christian militia group, a person familiar with the matter said.

    The suspects are expected to make an initial appearance in U.S. District Court in Detroit on Monday.

    On Sunday, a source close to the investigation in Washington, D.C. confirmed that FBI agents were conducting activities in Washtenaw and Lenawee counties over the weekend in connection to Hutaree, a Christian militia group. Detroit FBI Special Agent Sandra Berchtold told The Detroit News the federal warrants in the case are under court seal and declined further comment.


    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100328/...#ixzz0jZQq11HI

    Sources have said the FBI was in the second day of raids around the southeastern Michigan city of Adrian that are connected to a militia group, known as the Hutaree, an Adrian-based group whose members describe themselves as Christian soldiers preparing for the arrival and battle with the anti-Christ.

    WXYZ-TV reports that helicopters were spotted in the sky for much of Saturday night, and agents set up checkpoints throughout the area. Witnesses told the station that it was like a small army had descended on the area. The Department of Homeland Security and the Joint Terrorism Task Force are also involved in the raids.

    Mike Lackomar, of Michiganmilitia.com, said both The Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia and the Michiganmilitia.com were not a part of the raid.

    Lackomar said he heard from other militia members that the FBI targeted the Hutaree after its members made threats of violence against Islamic organizations.

    "Last night and into today the FBI conducted a raid against homes belonging to the Hutaree. They are a religious cult. They are not part of our militia community," he said.
    Lackomar said he was told there were five arrests Saturday and another five early Sunday. The FBI declined to comment.


    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100328/...#ixzz0jZR9BoF3

    One of the Hutaree members called a Michigan militia leader for assistance Saturday after federal agents had already began their raid, Lackomar said, but the militia member -- who is of Islamic decent and had heard about the threats -- declined to offer help. That Michigan militia leader is now working with federal officials to provide information on the Hutaree member for the investigation, Lackomar said Sunday.

    "They are more of survivalist group and in an emergency they withdraw and stand their ground. They are actively training to be alongside Jesus," he said.

    Sources from the Michigan militia community said one of the FBI raids took place Saturday during a wake for a Hutaree member who had died of natural causes. A Hutaree leader was arrested during the wake while at the same time agents were conducting raids at other locations.

    The Associated Press is reporting that FBI spokesman Scott Wilson in Cleveland said agents arrested two people Saturday in northwest Ohio. A third arrest was made in Illinois on Sunday, a day after raids in northwest Indiana.

    Dawud Walid, executive director of the Council on Islamic-American Relations of Michigan, made an announcement Sunday during the group's 10th anniversary banquet about receiving a call from a network journalist about the alleged threat against Muslims.

    "Don't allow this news to scare you away from practicing your faith," said Walid.
    Audible gaps were heard throughout the banquet hall when the news was announced. Walid said he will call local authorities about more information on the allegations. He urged local Muslims to recommitt themselves to their faith in light of the accusations.

    David Shepardson and Oralandar Brand-Williams contributed to this report.

    jchambers@detnews.com


    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100328/...#ixzz0jZRIaAol
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    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TheLaw/chr...ry?id=10228716

    Christian Militia Raid: Were the Hutaree Targeted for Threats Against Muslims?
    Leader of Michigan Militia Group Says Christian Extremists Begged for Help After FBI Raid

    Investigators are expected to release more information today in the raid on a Christian militia group, with one person involved in the militia movement suggesting the shadowy group had made threats against Muslims.


    The Hutaree group claims Jesus is its "top general."
    "Obviously someone has a source or a wiretap or intel is coming to them in some form or fashion to trigger, 'Alright we are not going to let these guys take one step further in this operation. We are going to take them down,'" ABC News consultant and former FBI agent Brad Garrett said.

    Federal officials have remained tightlipped about the three-state raid Sunday that nabbed seven people and arrest records have been sealed. Michael Lackomar, the leader of Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia, a separate Michigan-based militia group, told ABC News he heard that threats toward Islamic groups made by extremist group the Hutaree may have fueled the arrests.

    The suspects are due in court today.

    A person claiming to be a member of the Hutaree posted a message online pleading for help and claiming that officials "broke into homes and took children and used the tasers on wives ... AND my son who is 12."

    The raids were conducted Sunday in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois, federal officials confirmed to the Associated Press, though they did not mention the Hutaree specifically.

    Lackomar, said several members of the Hutaree, which have trained with the SMVM on occasion, showed up on the doorstep of one of his colleagues shortly after the raid.

    "They were asking for a place to hide as it were and he wasn't willing to assist them in that manner," Lackomar said.

    On their Web site, the Hutaree -- which they say means "Christian warriors" -- say they are prepared to defend all those who belong to Christ and save those who aren't." A video shows members patrolling the woods with camouflage and weapons preparing for the arrival of the anti-Christ."

    "The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it," the Web site claims.

    Despite the connection between the groups, Lackomar said the Hutaree are not truly part fo the militia movement, but more like a cult.

    "They believe that this is the end of the world as prophesized by the Bible and it is their duty to take up arms to fight alongside Jesus against the impending forces of Satan," he said.

    "We are community-based," Lackomar said of the SMVM. "We are willing to accept anybody that lives among us that wants to protect themselves, their neighborhood, wants to help out in times of emergency."
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