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    Vox Op-Ed Says It’s Time To ‘Arm The Left,’ Challenge ‘Threat’ Of ‘Right-Wing Extremism’

    July 3, 2019



    A new Vox op-ed calls for liberals across the nation to “arm” left-wing groups as a counterweight to the “continuing threat” of “right-wing extremism.”

    The liberal website hosted self-professed “left-wing anarchist” Kim Kelly’s clarion call to embrace gun rights as a means of deterring “neo-Nazi” threats in Charlottesville, Virginia, and other states.

    “Right-wingers have held an unearned monopoly on gun culture for too long,” the author wrote Monday. “I’m of the firm opinion that it’s time to not only arm the left but challenge the narrative that all leftists are anti-gun.”

    The labor columnist goes on to dream of “creating a parallel cultural universe wherein balaclava-clad ‘gun bunnies’ pose for the ‘gram” and “reclaiming the notion of armed self-defense from those who have long used it as a cudgel to repress dissent and terrorize marginalized communities, and emphasizing its potential as a transformative tool toward collective liberation. … The police will not protect us; neither will the military, or well-meaning liberals, or your favorite oh-so-progressive politicians. It is not in their interest to do so, and recognizing that is imperative to the survival of those who reject this vile status quo.”

    Vox’s piece comes in the wake of a weekend filled with violence perpetrated by the left-wing group Antifa.

    Police in Portland, Oregon, arrested three people at demonstrations in which milkshakes laced with quick-drying cement were thrown at victims.

    Andy Ngo, an editor at Quillette, was also taken to the hospital with head injuries after Antifa members attacked him and stole his camera.

    “‘We tried to warn you’ … Nothing to see here folks, just Vox escalating the ‘fight’ beyond milkshakes and even bricks,” the conservative news aggregator Twitchy responded Monday to the Vox op-ed.

    “I’m a left-wing anarchist. It’s time to reclaim guns from the right,” writes @GrimKim. https://t.co/USB1Q3TPUl
    — Vox (@voxdotcom) July 1, 2019

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    This shit is going to happen.... and people will die.
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    ‘This Is War’: ‘Borat’ Director Encourages Left to Arm Selves Against ‘Maga People’

    July 22, 2019

    Borat director Larry Charles took to Twitter Monday and compared Trump supporters — or as he described them, “Maga people” — to the violent, pro-China “triad” mob who attacked peaceful pro-democracy protesters Sunday night and essentially encouraged far-left agitators to arm themselves for “war.”

    “After reading about armed #Triad thugs attacking pro-democracy protestors In #HongKong and the white supremacists/Proud Boys/Maga people embracing violence here I’m glad to see the left arming itself. This is war,” the longtime Curb Your Enthusiasm producer declared.

    After reading about armed #Triad thugs attacking pro-democracy protestors In #HongKong and the white supremacists/Proud Boys/Maga people embracing violence here I’m glad to see the left arming itself. This is war. https://t.co/xAm2tluDhT

    — Larry Charles (@larrycharlesism) July 22, 2019

    Charles, a prolific producer, writer, and director, linked to a Guardian article that detailed the desires of left-wing groups, like Antifa, to take up arms in order to protect events from “other malicious and potentially armed groups.”

    The far-left has largely refused to condemn the violent actions of its extremist groups like Antifa. “Squad” member Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) failed to condemn the self-described Antifa member who attempted to firebomb a federal detention facility in Tacoma, Washington, earlier this month.

    .@AOC refuses to condemn the Antifa attack on the Tacoma ICE center; refuses to tell @TheRealKeean if her inflammatory comments about “concentration camps” radicalized the attacker. pic.twitter.com/YOjn0yL032

    — The Rebel (@RebelNewsOnline) July 15, 2019

    Fellow member, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) also refused.

    .@AOC, @IlhanMN repeatedly REFUSE to condemn Antifa attack on Tacoma ICE center, and won't tell Antifa to stop using violence. WATCH @TheRealKeean confront #AOC and #IlhanOmar pic.twitter.com/Yl5oCH2X7H

    — The Rebel (@RebelNewsOnline) July 15, 2019

    The Seattle Antifascist Action took it a step further and actively praised the attacker, calling him a “martyr” in a Facebook post last week.

    It read:

    When our good friend and comrade Willem Van Spronsen took a stand against the fascist detention center in Tacoma, he became a martyr who gave his life to the struggle against fascism. He was kind and deeply loved by many communities; we cannot let his death go unanswered. Throughout history we idolize figures like John Brown for their courage to take the ultimate stand against oppression, and today we stand strong in our support for yet another martyr in the struggle against fascism. May his death serve as a call to protest and direct action.

    Last month, violent leftist protesters in Portland, Oregon, viciously attacked journalist and editor of Quilette, Andy Ngo. Ngo was hospitalized with a brain bleed. Pictures showed cuts and bruises to his face, as well as a torn earlobe.

    Update to @MrAndyNgo supporters — he is being admitted to the hospital overnight as a result of a brain bleed. You sick “journalists” and other hacks gloating about this should be ashamed. As for the rest, please pray for @MrAndyNgo who we need back in health — brave man!������������❤️ https://t.co/XYVy4EbIzv

    — Harmeet K. Dhillon (@pnjaban) June 30, 2019

    Only three arrests were made that night.

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    Here's what's going on, in my opinion anyway. You have for all intents and purposes, localities if not entire States in the Union that have nullified U.S. Federal Law and are de Facto committed Secession from the Union, while still demanding and receiving Federal funds from the U.S. taxpayer. Eventually they will Secede unless they get the entirety of the Federal Government back into their hands. Either way, these local politicians will use the Bolshevik gangs in the area to carry out actions against their political opponents, like state-sanctioned vigilantes... Unless they are stopped militarily and by legal means, because they are in fact committing Sedition and Treason against the US Government, which carries a death sentence at maximum, of course. But, it has to be clear to the American people that this is happening, crystal clear, before any serious action can be taken to restore the rule of law to these lawless localities.
    Don't like Fascists of any kind, Marxist, Islamist, red white black or brown, they can all take a long walk off a short pier.

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    Are There Any Questions?

    Posted by NC Scout | Aug 8, 2019 | NC Scout, Opinion | 14 |


    Its doubtful in my estimation that they’ll be a solitary event that people look to as “the one” that brings it all down. More like a slow burn, we’re sliding into an unrecognizable state. But for most the underlying “event” in question is a monumental societal shift which threatens their existence: socially defined. For conservatives that might be a foreign invasion or no-knock warrants to seize guns. For liberals, it was the election of Donald Trump. And they’re doing something about it.

    All of it is predicated on this idea of the absence of rule of law. Define that. You’re living without rule of law. And so are they. For the Left the Russia narrative was absolute truth despite the facts pointing to the contrary. For the Right its the fact that a criminal enterprise which infested the bureaucracy of the US government continues to exist. But for both parties, the rule of law is universally recognized to have failed. And that’s a dangerous predicament drawing parallels to to 1856. The question for both parties remains what is the source of law; for one side law is rooted in Aquinas’ faith in divine judgement and law then is a reflection of morality, the other, HLA Hart’s Rule of Recognition presupposing that laws are merely reflective of social definitions. For this reason the Left is fully justified in lying, overt cheating, and the continuous justification of ending life before they define it as life. Thus there is a rapidly approaching reality that the two cannot be reconciled.



    Whether this is factual or not, it indicates your adversary already controls the terrain. What do you expect to gain?

    To the Left, life is inherently cheap. Mass murder is the hallmark of every communist movement even before it comes to power. In the US, they have successfully infested the echelons of lower government and the education system creating a complete grasp on both policy decisions and the ability to formulate a future argument to the contrary. The Left teaches and conditions binary thought while continuously defining, or changing, the argument to suit their aim. With complete institutional control, following the playbook of Gramsci, they have created the necessary mass base. But in no case have any of these people ruled out mass murder. In meetings of the inner communist groups, its been openly discussed even though they previously vehemently denied it. No longer. Once the communist believes it has a necessary base to support it, it removes the mask. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee just purged itself of all white male staffers, telegraphing their intended target. Peace, after all, is the absence of dissent.


    The SLA.

    In a discussion earlier I was asked why many are of the mindset that there is indeed social turbulence but it will play out like the 1970s- a few isolated groups, little real influence, some bombings, headlines and they’ll eventually go away. Those times do not parallel these. Not even close. What the communist insurgency of that era failed to comprehend was the lack of mass base. They overestimated the willingness of the anti-war movement. Those groups, such as the Weather Underground and the SLA, practiced what’s known as Foco warfare, which relies on small groups as acting as a vanguard who’s success leads to general revolt. Minus a willing large scale support structure, it is doomed to failure. The institutions of government, while still infiltrated by communists albeit in a less impactful role, were willing to do what was necessary to put them down. They failed as a mass movement, but the retreat into the institutions created future generations from which they could erode the nation from the local levels. Which they’ve successfully done.

    The communists took a number of paths leading to one conclusion- obtaining control and subversion of the institutions. Courts not in your favor? Install your judges. Police bringing too much heat? Control the city council, install your own police chief. In two generations’ time the Marxist influence has come to a logical end. Fueled by a perfect storm of education debt and a mood of despair, the allure of the young mind insulated from the destructive history of Marxism leads them to the belief that now is their time. But through fomenting that worldview they have created the social conditions of revolution. The rule of law is dead. And the corruption of the institutions has come to its fruition. It should come as no surprise then that they accept no election, accept no judicial decision, or accept no rule but their own. Thus the role of violent organization is justified.



    Antifa, the John Brown Gun Club, Redneck Revolt and their mutual offspring should not be taken as a light threat. They have exhibited a level of organization that poses a very real threat to the future of this nation. They have their mass base.

    In that same aforementioned conversation I pointed out that what we see in places like Portland, Seattle and other urban areas is what Che Guevara called ‘warfare in favorable areas’. In other words, the communists already control it. Their ‘SHTF’ has happened, and they’re acting. For them, the time is now, there is no debate and they want you dead.

    The next step for them, which is a dangerous one, is moving to warfare in unfavorable areas. Rural areas. They do not have the infrastructure that they enjoy in the urban areas and have a harder time gaining traction- rural culture is far and away too traditional and unaccepting. They’re trying it with collective farms but this won’t gain traction wholesale. But the danger lay with not knowing when to act; too soon, it fails, too late, it fails, and once the rural areas get truly awakened to a local insurgency, it will be taken care of most haste. But how will you know when to act? Local networking. Knowing your neighbors and paying attention to local happenings. The stuff that doesn’t make the news. The threats won’t just appear out of nowhere but at least the terrain favors you.

    One thing is for certain- they are acting and they want you dead. They are doing. Its time to wake up. So, are there any questions?

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    ‘Anarchy and Chaos’: Violent Antifa Protests Break Out in Portland

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    Violent Antifa protests are breaking out in Portland, Oregon, following the pre-planned “End of Domestic Terrorism” event taking place in the city.

    City officials have been preparing for the potential of dueling clashes, with the police force at the ready and additional agencies on standby. According to journalist and editor of Quillette, Andy Ngo, – who warned that Saturday’s events had the potential to be a “powder keg” – things are already taking a violent turn.
    One of Ngo’s videos shows protesters attacking a bus, appearing to attempt to pull people out of the vehicle:
    Antifa attacks people on a bus. They try to pull them out and hit them with a hammer. #PortlandProtests pic.twitter.com/JSkCE1Vrcy
    — Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) August 17, 2019
    Another video shows a man who was allegedly maced and beaten by Antifa assailants.
    “He was knocked unconscious to the ground. His partner or spouse was trying to protect him as mob still surrounded them. No police,” Ngo claimed.
    Middle-age man was maced and beaten by an antifa mob. He was knocked unconscious to the ground. His partner or spouse was trying to protect him as mob still surrounded them. No police. #PortlandProtests pic.twitter.com/eAhrMSEKU1
    — Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) August 17, 2019
    Man was beaten and maced by Antifa. He wandered off dazed and bloodied and collapsed in a parking lot. No authorities have helped him yet. #PortlandProtest pic.twitter.com/Jq36rhAF22
    — The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) August 17, 2019
    More:
    A large antifa mob chase & attack a man & a young girl who got separated from the others. No police. #PortlandProtests pic.twitter.com/erceCRVnad
    — Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) August 17, 2019
    The police decided to stop protecting that small conservative group that got separated & antifa went after them. Man holding flag got a bunch of stuff thrown on his head. Not sure why @PortlandPolice left. Mob is following them. pic.twitter.com/bTlAUsUpbr
    — Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) August 17, 2019
    The aggressive antifa shirtless man who was threatening people was arrested by police. This angered the mob who said this was police bias. #PortlandProtests pic.twitter.com/OYDsyLw3EY
    — Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) August 17, 2019
    At least 13 people have been arrested during the demonstrations, police told CNN.


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    Andy Ngo: Antifa Believes It Is Pushing America Towards Civil War

    September 2, 2019

    During an interview with Breitbart News’s James Delingpole, political commentator Andy Ngo explained the ideology of the Antifa movement, and the group’s belief that it is pushing America towards a civil war.

    During a conversation with Breitbart News’s James Delingpole, political commentator Andy Ngo offered some of his thoughts on the ideology behind Antifa’s violence. Ngo claims that Antifa, which believes that America is currently living under the fascistic dictatorship of President Donald Trump, wants to catapult society into a civil war.

    “There is a symbiotic relationship between extreme anarchists and hardcore communists. And the violence they do on the street is towards furthering their war. They are actually trying to agitate for a revolution. So from the outside is may seem like stupid street violence and vandalism but they really believe that we are living in the latter days of fascism,” Ngo said. “The conflict is going to happen in the future by bringing these brutal forms of violence, either against the state, individuals, or property. Instead of inching closer and closer to that final, climatic battle, it’s going to make us run quicker there.”

    Ngo argued that Americans should not allow “Antifa” to falsely declare that they are society’s guardians against fascism. “We have authorities or academics have the frameworks for researching violent extremist ideologies and I’d like to see that applied to Antifa. I think, in some ways, how they organize has many parallels to Islamism,” Ngo continued. “So I don’t see them as just a benign movement of so-called antifascists. I mean, I don’t even give them that propaganda win of calling them antifascists. I say “Antifa” because I want to separate that from antifascism, which to the average person would sound like a very noble thing.”

    In June, Breitbart News reported that Ngo was assaulted by several Antifa protesters during a street rally in Portland. “I just got beat up by the crowd, with no police at all, in the middle of the street,” Ngo said during a livestream on June 29.






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    San Francisco Board Of Supervisors Designates NRA Domestic Terrorist Organization

    September 3, 2019

    The city of San Francisco has formally adopted a resolution calling the National Rifle Association a domestic terrorist organization.

    San Francisco's Board of Supervisors on Tuesday took the step of officially declaring the nation's premier gun-ownership advocates a terrorist organization.

    District 2 Supervisor Catherine Stefani wrote the scathing declaration reading in part, "the National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence."

    She continued, "The NRA exists to spread dis-information, and knowingly puts guns into the hands of those who would harm and terrorize us," said Stefani, whose district includes the Marina and Presidio.

    "The NRA has it coming to them, and I will do everything that I possibly can to call them out on what they are, which is a domestic terrorist organization," said Stefani.

    In fact, Stefani wrote the declaration following the July mass shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival.

    The gunman killed three people before being cornered and shot by police and ultimately taking his own life.

    "Then the next weekend we had Dayton, Ohio. We had El Paso, Texas. Now we've had Odessa, Texas, and people are dying every day in this country," said Stefani. "And doing nothing is not an option, and that it what the NRA continues to do."

    The NRA responded with a statement reading in part, "This ludicrous stunt by the Board of Supervisors is an effort to distract from the real problems facing San Francisco, such as rampant homelessness, drug abuse and skyrocketing petty crime, to name a few. The NRA will continue working to protect the constitutional rights of all freedom-loving Americans.”

    Supervisor Stefani said she doesn't want this to end with this declaration. The declaration calls on the city to reach out to other cities, states and even the federal government to adopt similar declarations.

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    Leftist Council Member Says Cleaning Feces Off Seattle Streets With a Power Washer is Racist

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    A leftist council member recently tried to stop feces being cleaned off the streets of Seattle with a power washer, arguing that it was racist.

    Yes, really.

    The problem centers around King County courthouse in downtown Seattle, where homelessness is surging and a tent city has sprung up in a nearby park. Several courthouse employees and two jurors have been assaulted.

    The area is also littered with fecal matter, leading King County Sheriff John Urquhart to ask the county to order a daily power wash of the sidewalks, which “reek of urine and excrement.”

    However, leftist Council member Larry Gossett pushed back against the proposal, arguing that it was racist because power washing “brought back images of the use of hoses against civil-rights activists.”

    That’s right. Because high pressure water hoses were once used over 50 years ago to oppress civil rights activists that means streets in 2019 should remain smothered in shit.

    What’s next? Maybe we should just let fires burn endlessly because someone might get offended at the sight of a hose.
    As we previously reported, Seattle parks are becoming no-go areas for the general public because of spiraling problems with aggressive homeless people and trash.

    As we highlight in the video below, San Francisco also has a monumental poop problem and power washers seems to be losing the battle.


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    No Matter Who Wins in 2020, There Will Be Blood

    September 19, 2019

    The machinations of an illiberal left, on display in its ever-increasing violence accompanied by the ululations of a propagandist media in contravention of an imaginary “white supremacist” right, have riven the nation into diametrically opposed camps.

    The right will never accept socialism, while the left will accept nothing less.

    Trump Wins

    Those on the left will not allow a Trump victory, even should he win the popular vote and the Electoral College. They are used to getting what they want and like spoiled brats, have learned that tantrums work.

    Should Donald Trump prevail in his bid for a second term, the left will go insane, deploying every “insurance policy” weapon at their disposal to negate four more years of the Orange Man. What Obama, Comey, and Brennan et al. did to Trump in his first term will seem mild in comparison to what the left is planning should he win.

    Antifa, the military arm of the Democratic Party, has not spent the last three years practicing and organizing merely to sit on the sidelines. They have used the interregnum to mobilize and learn tactics, while probing to find what government will allow, media will trumpet, and the public will endure.

    The skirling “resistance” has morphed from pajama-boy blobs of perpetually offended little dictators and pussy-hat sporting shriekers into balaclava-wearing avengers who crave the opportunity to put deplorables in their place and give them the government they deserve good and hard. They will flood the streets after a Trump victory in their Antifa costumes looking to bust the heads of anyone near enough to become part of their 15 minutes of YouTube fame.

    It will start in the cities -- the Democrat-run cities, of course -- where the political leadership will provide them a measure of protection against identification and arrest. Seattle, Portland, LA, San Francisco, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, Boston, and Baltimore, among others, will become flashpoints of unrest.

    The riots will be portrayed by the media and the Democrats as a groundswell of support for deposing a racist president. They will bemoan the necessity of the violence, destruction, and loss of life, but remind Americans that “the people have spoken.” Some among the Antifa will be championed. In lockstep, both the New York Times and the Washington Post will run headlines calling them: “The New Founding Fathers.” People who fight back will quickly grow in number -- even as the media label them “white supremacists.” Blood will be spilled.

    China, Iran, Russia, and Venezuela will plead for calm and offer to mediate the evolving humanitarian crisis…

    Trump Loses

    The right will never believe the Democrats didn’t cheat their way to victory; in addition to understanding that a Democratic President will undemocratically implement policies by executive order that are inimical to their interests and desires.

    Many on the right are weary of leaders who prioritize good press over good policy, and who prefer losing gracefully over winning ugly. They believe they did build that and that they have not yet made enough money and are fed up with being portrayed as ignorant and evil just because of political disagreements. Eight years of Obama and three years of watching his slow-motion coup have made them angry.

    Tone-deaf to this silent majority and emboldened by victory, the new president will borrow Barry’s “pen and phone” and start issuing executive orders throwing open our borders, banning fossil fuels, and of course, implementing “common sense” gun control. Buoyed by media, the new president will start with universal background checks and a gun registry.

    Eventually, the president will overreach, signing an order for gun confiscation, euphemistically called, “mandatory buybacks.” Antifa and their ilk will flood the streets in support of seizing these “weapons of war.” Media will declare, “It’s the will of the people.”

    And for the right, that will be the last straw (plastic or paper).

    The left doesn’t understand that every gun owner is a single-issue-voter; millions will refuse to give up their guns. And, many gun owners in this country will not go “meekly into the night,” there will be “rage” against what they will see as a usurpation of their constitutional rights.

    Confiscation will go well at first, with gun owners in the cities acquiescing to the knock on the door in the middle of the night and the intimidation of, “Papers please.”

    But in flyover country, a different scenario will play out. Most gun owners will hide their weapons and most local police departments will accept that, not wanting to jail their neighbors. Resistance will be broad, perhaps encompassing hundreds of millions of Americans. Barack Obama, for once in the dismal history of his efforts to kill the America we love, will be proven correct. Americans do “cling to their guns.”

    The media will call it “white supremacy,” but a still unregulated internet will be rife with videos of an out of control government battling its own citizens.

    The president will call for mobilizing the National Guard. Some governors will refuse, and army units now overseas will be sent home to deal with the growing unrest. Mistakes will be made and there will be gunfire in the streets; people will die on both sides. The president will desperately call for martial law.

    Many Army, National Guard, and police will defect, or desert, or simply refuse orders.

    What will happen after that is anybody's guess.

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    Battleground: 7 In 10 Say US ‘On The Edge Of Civil War’

    October 23, 2019

    Partisan political division and the resulting incivility has reached a low in America, with 67% believing that the nation is nearing civil war, according to a new national survey.

    “The majority of Americans believe that we are two-thirds of the way to being on the edge of civil war. That to me is a very pessimistic place,” said Mo Elleithee, the executive director of Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service.

    And worse, he said in announcing the results of the institute’s Battleground Poll, the political division is likely to make the upcoming 2020 presidential race the nastiest in modern history.




    Highlighting findings that show voters angered with compromise and growing unfavorable ratings of President Trump and most 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, he said the poll “paints a scenario, a picture of a highly negative campaign that will continue to exacerbate the incivility in our public discourse."

    He added, “It will be a sort of race to the bottom, or has the potential to be a race to the bottom.”

    The Civility Poll is an offshoot of the famous bipartisan Battleground Poll conducted by Democratic pollster Celinda Lake of Lake Research Partners and Ed Goeas of the Tarrance Group.

    While it found that 87% are frustrated with the rudeness in politics today, it also revealed that the public really isn’t interested in traditional compromise. For example, a nearly equal 84% said that they are “tired of leaders compromising [their] values and ideals.”

    Elleithee explained, “It seems to me what they’re saying is, ‘I believe in common ground, it’s just that common ground is where I’m standing. As soon you move over to where I am, we’ll be on common ground.’”



    Goeas pointed to the poor favorable ratings of presidential candidates and said that 2020 may be a rare race between candidates that less than half the country likes.

    “There is going to be a large body of voters who dislike both of them, and that’s going to be the swing vote in the election, which means it dictates the kind of campaign that’s run,” he said.


    Lake agreed that national division is widening. “There is relative consensus that divisions in this country are getting worse,” she said in her memo accompanying the survey released Tuesday.

    Both pollsters noted that the public blames social media, the news media, and Trump for the growing division.

    But Goeas, not a fan of the president, said he believes that Trump didn’t start the rudeness in today’s politics. “He is a symptom of where we are, not ‘the’ disease,” he said, adding, “One of the things that I have focused on as we have gone into this death spiral of incivility in the country, that we had to be at a certain point for Trump to become acceptable.”

    The poll backs that up. It found that 84% believe that “behavior that used to be seen as unacceptable is now accepted as normal behavior.”

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    ADAM FISCH HAS TO DIE

    Posted by Matt Bracken | Oct 27, 2019 | Matt Bracken | 22 |



    Adam Fisch Has to Die

    Stephen Kroszt arrived near the meeting place first, more than an hour early, but Paige Lissat didn’t know that. It was exactly quarter past nine in the morning when, as arranged, she first jogged past the isolated picnic table located in a remote corner of Washington DC’s 2,000-acre Rock Creek Park. She jogged hundreds of yards up and down the trail past the designated meeting point several times in both directions before Kroszt emerged from the woods. She nearly broke out laughing when she realized that the elderly man shuffling through the fallen leaves toward the table was indeed her former lover.

    Kroszt looked nothing like the dashing head of counterintelligence (and one of the youngest members of the elite Special Executive Service) whom she had fallen in love with. Instead, unkempt tufts of gray hair matching a gray beard protruded from beneath his battered fedora. He was wearing a shabby oatmeal-colored tweed jacket, khaki pants, and scuffed walking shoes. Binoculars hung from a strap around his neck, and an olive-green messenger bag was slung over his shoulder. Wire-rimmed glasses and a puffy fake nose completed his camouflage.

    In stark contrast, Paige Lissat was wearing form-fitting blue sportswear, her light zipper jacket matching her jogging pants and running shoes. Wraparound sunglasses concealed her eyes in spite of the deep shade in the woods on the overcast autumn morning.

    When he neared the table, she stopped jogging and said, “How long were you going to let me run up and down these hills? My pulse must be 200. I haven’t been running in months, not since all this started. I hardly get out anymore.” She leaned against a nearby tree, stretching out her long legs in turn.

    He said, “You weren’t followed? I mean, from your house, or at any other point?”

    “No, of course not. If I’d been followed, I would have aborted the meeting. I did everything just like you taught me. I parked my car where you told me, and I took a bus to where you left me the bike. I changed outfits three times in three different ladies’ rooms, and I always left by another exit. Don’t worry, I’m clean.”

    “Where did you leave the bag with your other clothes? If anybody finds it—“

    “I told you I was careful. You know how well you trained me. Haven’t I proven it enough times already?”

    “You didn’t bring the burner phone I left at the dead drop? Sorry, no, of course you didn’t.”

    Paige briefly turned to face him. “Okay, Stephen, let’s get to it. What’s so important that we had to risk meeting face to face?”

    “We’ll get to that. You look terrific as a blonde, by the way.” Kroszt sat on the bench on the side of the picnic table so that he was overlooking the trail, and removed his binoculars and his shoulder bag, placing them in front of him.

    She leaned against the tree again and said, “This goddamn wig itches like hell.”

    Gazing at her posterior, he said, “Well, I think you look very nice.”

    “You, on the other hand, look like a retired GS-11 with a drinking problem. You look like you slept in the woods.”

    “I’m out bird watching,” Kroszt explained. “You can check my notebook, and my camera.”

    “I’m sure. Cover for action.”

    “Right on; tradecraft 101. Oh, Paige, I wish I could hold you, and kiss you, it’s been so long…”

    “Don’t even think about it, grandpa.” Lissat put one hand on the tree and grabbed an ankle behind her with the other, pulling it upward and bowing her back.

    Kroszt continued staring at her and said, “It’s been so hard, not being with you for all this time. After everything that’s happened, you’re still the only one I can really trust. Oh my God, how did it all go so wrong? It was the most important case of our lives! We were going to save the country from that fucking idiot, and now it’s all a complete shambles.”

    “We were a good team, Stephen. A very good team. God knows we did the best we could. Nobody could have predicted that loathsome creature was going to win the election in spite of all we did to stop him.”

    Kroszt said, “But once he did win, we should have just walked away from it. We should have just stayed at headquarters, and worked from inside. Oh my God, why did I let Wiseman talk me into joining the Mullet team? In the end, there was no ‘there, there.’ Just as I’d feared.”

    “Wiseman is a snake,” Lissat hissed. “If anybody gets out of this clean, it’ll be him. He’s already back at his old firm, pulling down half a mill a year.” Still facing the tree, she extended her arms and twisted her torso at her hips, maintaining her cover as a park jogger.

    He said, “They take care of their own, I’ll say that for them. Not like us, hiding in the woods like a couple of fugitives. Nobody will hire me; hell, nobody will even return my emails! I’m a complete pariah. Let’s face it, we’re both screwed.”
    Paige Lissat said, “There’s still the impeachment inquiry. Adam Fisch—”

    “Adam Fisch hasn’t got squat! He’s holding deuces face down and calling them aces, just like he did during the Mullet probe, and we both know how that turned out. Once he’s forced to show his cards in front of the full Congress, it’s going to be another disaster. It’s going to be even worse than the Mullet hearing. And we’re running out of time—Hardum is going to be dropping indictments any week now. And William Rabb will be standing right next to him in front of the cameras. Let’s face it, Paige, if things continue on this track, we’re both screwed.”

    She turned away from the tree to finally face him and said, “Stephen, I don’t want to go to prison.”

    “Nobody ever does. Hey, Brannigan told me that McDare has flipped.”

    “Randy? No way! I thought he was going to stick to the script to the bitter end. ‘Never give up the con,’ that’s what he always said, right? Wait—you’re in touch with Brannigan? How?”

    “Paige, Paige… you know I can’t get into that.”

    “Shit. Shit! First Klepper, now McDare. What about Rosenblatt?”

    “Ron was always working both sides. I take it as a given he’s been cooperating with Hardum all along. Hell, he was willing to wear a wire into the Oval Office, so I assume that he’s been recording everybody since day one. That weasel is only out to save his own neck.”

    “While we were trying to save the country from that menace.”

    “Yeah. And now we’re left out in the cold. The fall guys.”

    “What about Homey?” she asked.

    “The Pope? Homey’s so far out in La-la-land that he actually believes everything he ever said. He could pass a polygraph no sweat. He’ll never flip. His ‘higher loyalty,’ and all that garbage—it’s amazing how delusional he is.”

    Lissat said, “If it hadn’t been for Homey, we’d have never gotten involved in the first place. Homey and McDare.”

    “That’s all water under the bridge. But it was Brannigan who planted the seeds and set everything in motion. Brannigan, with Klepper as his willing stooge. And then Homey, the true believer, and then it just rolled downhill from there to us.”
    “I still can’t believe it’s come to this. Stephen, we’re fucked! And I don’t want to go to prison!” She sat down across the table from him and dropped her head into her hands, breathing deeply.

    When she looked up again, Kroszt said, “There’s still one more play that can save us. Paige, do you still trust me? Really trust me? You used to say that I had a brilliant mind, that I had an uncanny ability to see the future. Well, I see both of us in orange jump suits if we don’t take active measures ASAP.”

    “I don’t understand. You mean like another insurance policy? Isn’t it too late for that?”

    “No,” he said softly, staring at what he could see of her face, her eyes still hidden behind her sunglasses and her fake blonde bangs. “Not an insurance policy, not this time. I’m talking about active measures. Going kinetic. Impeachment is going to be another dry hole, no matter how our friends in the media are spinning it. Hardum’s DoJ train is going to beat the impeachment train into the station, and Fisch has nothing anyway. But that doesn’t mean we’re completely out of moves. Adam Fisch can still serve a useful purpose.”

    Lissat shook her head dismissively. “Adam Fisch is an idiot, a real douche, we both know that. A useful idiot and a reliable team player, but still an idiot. How can Fisch possibly help us?”

    Kroszt paused, and then answered, “He can help us by… dying. Or, to be more specific, by getting himself killed.”

    “Fisch? K-killed?”

    “Yes, killed. But not by just anybody.”

    “Stephen, what are you talking about?”

    “Adam Fisch has to be killed by a Prumt supporter. You said that I could see the future? Well, this is what I see if Fisch is killed by a Prumt-loving smelly Walmart hillbilly: his assassination will absolutely flip the narrative in our favor. Poor Adam Fisch will become an instant martyr, murdered while he was searching for truth and justice against the evil forces of Harold Prumt. By the next day’s news cycle, people will think that Prumt pulled the trigger himself. The new narrative will write itself: ‘Harold Prumt was so afraid of being impeached, that he sent out dog whistles calling for Fisch to be assassinated.’ The Fisch assassination will totally derail Hardum’s investigation. Fisch will lie in state under the Capitol dome; it’ll be glorious. That moron will be more use to us dead than alive. In a very real sense, his murder will be the final article of impeachment; it’ll seal the deal. Then, in the passion of the moment, we’ll get at least twenty Republicans to vote to convict… and we’ll finally be able to drag Harold Prumt out of the White House.”

    “But that just means Spence will become president—”

    “Yes, but not for long. Don’t worry about Spence, he’s a realist. We can work with Spence, he’ll get the picture. Then, come November, the heroic Admiral Crowhurst will be elected to save the republic. Crowhurst will fire Rabb, shut down the Hardum investigation—and we’re back to business as usual.”

    Admiral Crowhurst?

    “It’s all set. Crowhurst is very close to the Klantons. Brannigan says it’s going to happen at the convention. We just need to force Prumt out of the White House before November.”

    Paige Lissat’s mouth was agape. After a few moments she murmured, “Stephen, I’m speechless. The sheer agility of your mind! But can all this really happen?”

    “We have Fisch’s schedule and his movements down to the minute and the meter. It’ll be no problem beating his security, we just need to get a patsy into AR-15 range; a couple hundred yards. But that’s not the problem. The problem is finding the right patsy. It can’t be just anybody; it has to be a Prumt supporter.”

    “Stephen, I still don’t understand what you’re saying. Kill Adam Fisch?

    “Damn straight. To save the country from the menace of Harold Prumt, Adam Fisch has to die. At this point, it’s the only play bold enough to save us, and save the country. But I can’t do it without your help. That’s why I asked you to meet me here. The shooter—I mean—the patsy, he has to have a connection to Prumt. Been to a rally, worn a MAGA hat, something like that.”

    “But what does that have to do with me? I don’t understand.”

    “Paige, a few years ago at a Christmas party, you introduced me to a professor; sociology, history, I can’t remember which. Georgetown, AU, it doesn’t matter. You both implied that he was a talent spotter for the agency. You said he lives in your neighborhood, right? Later, you told me that he had a sideline hobby of weaponizing psychos. He’d ask his students to tell stories about the craziest people they ever met, just sort of casually, but then he’d track them down and befriend them, and plant his own ideas in their heads. You said that he told you that he’d actually done it, turned lunatics into human weapons.”

    “I remember the party, and I still know the professor, he still lives there, but I never really believed him about that part. I thought he was full of shit, actually. Sort of a Professor Munchhausen, trying to impress me with his tall tales. Taking credit for what a few psychos had done on their own.”

    Kroszt replied, “That’s not how I remember it. You seemed pretty sure about him, back then.”

    “Maybe… maybe you’re right. Maybe it could happen that way… maybe. But I just don’t know about all this. Kill Adam Fisch? Are you serious?

    “Adam Fisch has to die. You just have to contact the professor, and convince him to produce a plausible patsy. He knows you, he’ll trust you. He still lives near you, right? I’m sure he has some possible candidates on his list. I’ll take it from there. The patsy doesn’t even have to pull the trigger, he just has to be stashed nearby. It’ll be an AR-15 with a scope, so the patsy just needs to be in the same building. We’ll choreograph the rest.”

    “An AR-15… that’s a nice touch. Very nice. Smart. That’ll be worth a lot for selling the new narrative.”

    Kroszt said, “The patsy doesn’t even need to own a gun, we’ll take care of that too. It’ll be a ghost-gun with no serial number; what they call a ‘milled-lower.’ That’ll be even better than if it was one he’d bought on his own. It’ll look like an ongoing MAGA gun-nut conspiracy, with more shooters still out there. It’ll cause a total panic, and that’ll work in our favor too.”

    “You’re really sure about this? You actually want to have Adam Fisch killed?”

    “To save the country, Fisch has to be assassinated. And it has to be blamed on Harold Prumt.”

    Lissat stared across the table at her former lover, then said, “Stephen, if we set this plan in motion, and if it goes wrong, it’ll mean our necks. Yours and mine. As it is, you’re looking at maybe five to ten, and I’m looking at three to five. We’re still pretty young. We can survive it, we can outlast it. But this… this is… this is murder.”

    “Paige, this is about saving our country, and saving ourselves. So Adam Fisch has to die.”

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