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    To my untrained eye the new Iranian drone bears a striking resemblance to the old German V2. The Buzz Bomb.
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    Iran's 'ambassador of death' bomber is ready

    Associated Press, Updated: August 23, 2010 10:01 IST


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    Tehran: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday inaugurated the country's first domestically built unmanned bomber aircraft, calling it an "ambassador of death" to Iran's enemies. (Read: Iran begins fuelling first nuclear reactor)

    The 4-metre (13 foot) long drone aircraft can carry up to four cruise missiles and will have a range of 620 miles (1,000 kilometres), according to a state TV report - not far enough to reach archenemy Israel.

    At the inauguration ceremony on Sunday, the country's national day for Iran's defence industry, Ahmadinejad said the aircraft, named Karrar or striker, was "an ambassador of death for the enemies of humanity," but added that it also "has a main message of peace and friendship."

    The president championed the country's military self-sufficiency programme, and said it will continue "until the enemies of humanity lose hope of ever attacking the Iranian nation."

    Iran launched an arms development programme during its 1980-88 war with Iraq to compensate for a US weapons embargo and now produces its own tanks, armoured personnel carriers, missiles and even a fighter plane.

    Iran frequently makes announcements about new advances in military technology that cannot be independently verified.

    State TV later showed video footage of the plane taking off from a launching pad and reported that the craft travelled at speeds of 560 miles per hour (900 kilometres) and could alternatively be armed with two 250-pound (113 kilogram) bombs or a 450-pound (204 kilogram) guided bomb.

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    Luke,
    You mind if I move this over to the Middle East forum?

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    I moved the thread over to Middle East.
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    I adjusted the title to encompass more posts on the ongoing development of Iran's drone program.

    It looks like the Axis are networking and sharing technology in this field.

    When new technology shows up in Iran, Venezuela, North Korea or even Cuba these surrogates are getting
    help from both Russia and China to develop and build up these growing arsenals.

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    So, Iran Has a Drone ...


    By Brian Fung
    Tweet Sep 25 2012, 6:33 PM ET

    Don't worry about it -- yet.

    Revealed yesterday by high-ranking military officials on state TV, Iran's new, domestically-produced drone is allegedly capable of carrying bombs and missiles and has a theoretical range of 1,240 miles -- enough to cover Afghanistan and much of Pakistan to the east; Israel and Iraq to the west; and Saudi Arabia to the south. Video footage of the drone demonstrates that, at the very least, it's airworthy:



    But how concerned should we be about Tehran's latest toy? According to the Council on Foreign Relations' Micah Zenko -- not much. So far, he told me, Iran hasn't been able to mount precision-guided weapons on the Shahed-129 like the kind U.S. drones rely on to perform targeted killings. And even before it can attack a target, the machine has to get there -- a task made more complicated by Iran's elementary command-and-control infrastructure. Even if everything went to plan and the drone escaped detection -- an unlikely event in any case -- Iran's military would still need to keep in contact with it to operate the thing.

    "And," Zenko added, "since it is a country with a military budget under $10 billion and surrounded by perceived threats, they are compulsive exaggerators about what their military could do."

    Of course, that doesn't rule out the possibility of surprises. Last year, the country managed to steal one of America's stealthiest drones through the use of a clever GPS hack, forcing an RQ-170 Reaper onto autopilot before feeding it false coordinates and landing it safely on Iranian soil. It's unclear whether Iran's own drone incorporates technology stolen from the Reaper, although military officials claim they've retrieved data from it and are trying to build their own version of it.

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    The rumor is if it is Iranian Israel's will confirm it, if it was launched from the US or NATO it will not get reported.

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    Iran military official: Drone incursion shows Israel is vulnerable

    Claims that Iran made the unmanned aircraft the IAF shot down on Saturday are spin by Israel, claims Jamaluddin Aberoumand - without confirming or denying whether it's true.

    By Reuters and Haaretz | Oct.08, 2012 | 12:00 PM | 2


    IDF troops attempting to locate and recover downed drone, Southern Hebron Hills, October 6, 2012. Photo by Eliyahu Hershkovitz

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    IDF shoots down drone that penetrated Israeli airspace

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    Iranian FM: If Israel wanted to attack, it would have long ago

    By Haaretz | Oct.08,2012 | 12:00 PM | 1

    The incursion by an unmanned aircraft into Israeli airspace on Saturday exposed the weakness of Israeli air defenses, an Iranian military official was quoted as saying on Monday.

    The Israel Air Force shot down a drone on Saturday after it crossed into southern Israel, the IDF said. It remained unclear where the aircraft had come from, but Hezbollah was though to be the main suspect.

    Jamaluddin Aberoumand, deputy coordinator for Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, said the incident indicated that Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile defense system "does not work and lacks the necessary capacity," Fars news agency reported.

    Aberoumand attributed claims the drone was made by Iran to a"psychological operation" by Israel, but did not confirm or deny them. "The Zionist regime (Israel) has many enemies," he added.

    The Iron Dome system, jointly funded with the United States, is designed to shoot down short-range guerrilla rockets, not slow-flying aircraft. It intercepted more than 80 percent of the targets it engaged in March when nearly 300 rockets and mortars were fired at southern Israel, the Pentagon said at the time.

    The IDF said Saturday that the drone arrived in Israel from the west after flying over the Mediterranean and the Gaza Strip. It said the incident is under investigation.

    After the drone traveled east some 35 miles (56 km) across Israel's southern Negev desert, the drone was shot down above a forest in an unpopulated area near the border with the West Bank, the IDF spokesperson said.

    Several drones have been launched toward Israel in the past decade. During the 2006 Second Lebanon War, Hezbollah launched Iranian Ababil drones, capable of carrying explosives. The drones were intercepted and downed by IAF fighter jets.

    Another drone penetrated Israeli airspace from Lebanon in 2004, however it was not identified by the IDF. The drone flew over Israel for several minutes, then left Israel's airspace and crashed in the Mediterranean while on route to Lebanon. Following the incident the IAF was criticized for not identifying the drone before it entered Israel.

    In 2010, the Israel Air Force shot down an apparently unmanned balloon that flew over the Dimona nuclear reactor.


    Drone flight shows Israel is vulnerable: Iran military official




    DUBAI | Mon Oct 8, 2012 8:04am EDT

    (Reuters) - The incursion by an unmanned aircraft into Israeli airspace at the weekend exposed the weakness of Israeli air defenses, an Iranian military official was quoted as saying on Monday.

    The Israeli air force shot down a drone on Saturday after it crossed into southern Israel, the military said, but it remained unclear where the aircraft had come from.

    Jamaluddin Aberoumand, deputy coordinator for Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, said the incident indicated that Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile defense system "does not work and lacks the necessary capacity", Fars news agency reported.

    The Iron Dome system, jointly funded with the United States, is designed to shoot down short-range guerrilla rockets, not slow-flying aircraft. It intercepted more than 80 percent of the targets it engaged in March when nearly 300 rockets and mortars were fired at southern Israel, the Pentagon said at the time.

    The drone was first spotted above the Mediterranean near the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to the west of Israel, said military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich. An Israeli warplane shot it down above a forest near the occupied West Bank.

    Israeli parliament member Miri Regev, a former chief spokesman of the military, wrote on Twitter it was an "Iranian drone launched by Hezbollah", referring to the Lebanese Shi'ite group that fought a war with Israel in 2006.

    Israeli defense officials have not confirmed this.

    Aberoumand attributed claims the drone was made by Iran to a "psychological operation" by Israel, but did not confirm or deny them. "The Zionist regime (Israel) has many enemies," he added.

    On at least one occasion, Iranian-backed Hezbollah has sent a drone into Israeli airspace. And in 2010, an Israeli warplane shot down an apparently unmanned balloon in the Negev near the country's Dimona nuclear reactor.

    The Israeli military released a 10-second video clip of what it said was Saturday's mid-air interception, showing a small aircraft just before a missile from a fighter jet destroys it.

    Israel has threatened to bomb Iran's nuclear sites if diplomatic efforts fail to stop the nuclear work it believes is aimed at getting weapons capability, a charge Tehran denies.



    Israel Downs UAV With Dogfighting Missiles

    Oct. 7, 2012 - 12:35PM |
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    Israel Downs UAV: Newly released video showing the drone the Israel Air Force said it shot down on Saturday.


    An Israeli army helicopter searches Sept. 5 for the remains of an unarmed and unidentified drone in the northern Negev, which the Israeli air force shot it down after entering the country's airspace from the Mediterranean Sea. / David Buimovitch / AFP via Getty Images

    TEL AVIV — A pair of Israel Air Force F-16Is used locally-produced Python missiles to shoot an apparently Iranian-made unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) out of the sky following a nearly 20-minute incursion into Israeli air space on Oct. 6.

    Operational details of the Oct. 6 aerial intrusion are still under investigation. Preliminary findings indicate that the air vehicle was unarmed, but equipped with a photographic payload. It approached Israeli airspace from the Mediterranean Sea north of the Gaza Strip and was flying eastward before the order was given to shoot it down in the hills south of Hebron.

    Brig. Gen. Yoav “Poli” Mordechai, Israel’s military spokesman, said the UAV was detected well before it penetrated Israeli airspace and could have been targeted at any given time during its flight path. Commanders opted to wait until it reached an unpopulated area before issuing the order to shoot, he said.

    “The air vehicle was under surveillance by air and ground sensors during its entire flight path ... This was an operational success,” Mordechai said.

    Mordechai said investigators have not yet concluded which specific type of UAV was destroyed, from where, precisely, it was launched, and who was responsible. Nevertheless, military sources here suspected the UAV was part of the increasingly sophisticated weaponry provided by Iran to militant proxy groups north and south of Israel’s borders.

    The Oct. 6 incident was the third time the Israel Air Force (IAF) used air-to-air missiles initially developed for dogfights with enemy fighter planes to address small, asymmetrical UAV threats.

    After two embarrassing infiltrations by Iranian Ababil UAVs operated by Hizbollah in the 20 months prior to Israel’s 2006 Lebanon War, the IAF successfully shot down two Ababils during the course of that 34-day war. Remnants of the downed UAVs showed that at least one was equipped with nearly 10-kilograms of explosives.

    Iran has responded with threats to attack U.S. military bases in the region and retaliate against Israel if attacked.

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    Iran developing long-range drones, aerospace director says

    New generation of UAVs will have a 2000-kilometer range, Tehran claims — more than enough to reach Israel


    By Ilan Ben Zion October 17, 2012, 6:37 pm


    Chief of the aerospace division of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Amir Ali Hajizadeh (left), near a captured US RQ-170 Sentinel drone (photo credit: AP/Sepahnews)


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    Nearly two weeks after Israel shot down what is widely thought to be an Iranian-made drone over its airspace, Tehran on Wednesday announced the development of medium- and long-range drones capable of making the journey to Israel.

    Manouchehr Manteqi, the managing director of the Iranian Aviation Industries Organization, told Fars News that Tehran has “a series of designs and achievements” for drones with ranges as great as 2,000 kilometers.

    The long-range drones would be unveiled within two or three years, he told the semi-official Iranian news agency.
    At their closest point, Israel and Iran are just shy of 1,000 kilometers apart.

    On October 6, Israel downed a drone over the Yatir forest in the northern Negev. Lebanese militant group Hezbollah claimed responsibility for the UAV, saying it was built using parts from Iran.

    The Iranian military currently employs 15 different types of drones for intelligence, attack, and aerial defense roles. Earlier this month the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards’ aerospace division, Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, claimed that the Iranian armed forces had already developed a UAV that can fly 2,000 kilometers and can carry “bombs and missiles.”

    Manteqi told the paper that “class two” and “class three” drones that Iran was developing were capable of flying at 30,000 feet for 15 hours and 50,000 feet for 24 hours, respectively. He gave no indication of what role — intelligence or attack — the drones would have, or what size payload the UAVs would be able to carry.

    The American Global Hawk UAV, by comparison, has an operational range of 14,000 kilometers and a flight time of 28 hours, according to the US Air Force. The Israeli Aerospace Industries Eitan has a range in excess of 7,400 kilometers and an estimated flight time of 70 hours.

    Israeli UAV expert Tal Inbar told The Times of Israel last week that Iran is at least 20 years behind the cutting edge of drone technology.

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    Report: Iran has built advanced drone that can take off vertically

    Unmanned airborne vehicle a world first in taking off vertically without a runway, advanced technology, say Iranians.

    Iran builds advanced drone: news report

    Posted by Farzane@iran on 11/05/12 • Categorized as Quoted

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    DUBAI (Reuters) – Iran has built an advanced drone that can take off vertically and without a runway, Iranian media reported.

    Iran’s military regularly announces defense and engineering developments, though some analysts are skeptical of the reliability of such reports.

    Abbas Jam, researcher on a project for a vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) drone, said on Saturday that the drone would be tested that day and “unveiled” next year, according to Iran’s Mehr news agency.

    The unmanned aircraft “enjoys ultra-advanced technology and has been built for the first time in the world,” Jam said, according to Mehr.

    In October, Israel shot down a drone after it flew 25 miles into the Jewish state. Lebanese militant group Hezbollah claimed responsibility for the aircraft, saying its parts had been manufactured in Iran and assembled in Lebanon.

    Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi said last month that the downed drone did not use his country’s latest technological know-how, and that Iran possessed drones that are far more advanced.

    An Iranian legislator said last month that Iran holds pictures of Israeli bases and other restricted areas obtained from the drone, although a senior Israeli military officer said to the best of their knowledge the drone had not been equipped with a camera capable of transmitting photographs.

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    Iran shows U.S. drone as proof of capture, as Pentagon issues denial

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    Iran claimed to have downed an American drone Tuesday – and displayed a Boeing-built ScanEagle as proof – but the Pentagon issued a denial with some wiggle room, as the risks of a military confrontation continued to escalate over Tehran’s murky nuclear program.

    Iran’s propaganda coup, the second time in a year it has displayed a downed drone, also pulled back the curtain on the steady increase in spying and probing of defences by all parties, as the United States and Israel prepare for the possibility of war to deny Tehran’s ruling mullahs from getting nuclear weapons.

    Spying drones, cyber-warfare and the assassination of Iranian scientists are all part of the – mostly deniable – escalation. On Tuesday, the White House dodged questions about the missing drone.

    “We have no evidence that the Iranian claims you cite are true,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney. Iran, however, broadcast a video showing two Revolutionary Guards officers examining the evidently intact and apparently undamaged ScanEagle, an unarmed drone that is in use in the military of the U.S., Canada and several other Western nations.

    “All our active unmanned aerial vehicles working here have been accounted for,” said a spokesman for U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet, based in Bahrain, which commands dozens of U.S. warships, including a battle groups led by a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier patrolling the Persian Gulf.

    Whether or not the grey, swept-wing ScanEagle proudly displayed on Iranian TV and described as being “captured” belonged to the U.S. military, an American intelligence agency or – perhaps – a previously undisclosed buyer of the system such as Israel or Saudi Arabia, there seemed little doubt that it was real.

    A year ago, a far more powerful and sophisticated U.S. spy drone, the stealthy, high-tech RQ-170 Sentinel, was captured when Tehran apparently hijacked its guidance system. That loss was initially met with vague denials by U.S. officials, followed by suggestions that the drone displayed by Tehran was a fake.

    Both sides are using drones, although only rarely do the secret surveillance flights become known – such as when one gets shot down or is captured. In October, an Iranian-made drone was shot down by an Israeli F-16 warplane over the Negev Desert. It had apparently launched from Hezbollah-controlled areas of Southern Lebanon.

    The ScanEagle apparently downed by Iran was also a relatively short-range drone, unlike, for instance the high-altitude, jet-powered Global Hawk that can fly from bases in the U.S. to Afghanistan and back and stay aloft for 36 hours.

    ScanEagles were originally developed for searching for tuna at sea by Insitu Inc., a company later bought by Boeing Corp. They can be launched from and recovered by small vessels such as fishing boats.

    Last month, the Pentagon accused Iran of attempting to shoot down an American Predator – a larger, sometimes armed, drone that has been used for assassination strikes against al-Qaeda and Taliban targets.

    Iran’s Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi said the ScanEagle capture was the latest evidence of American violations of Iranian sovereignty. “We will use this drone as evidence to pursue a legal case against American invasion in international forums,” he said.

    The increasing use of unmanned aircraft both to spy on and attack adversaries underscores their political advantages and cost effectiveness. Although the United States retains a significant lead in the number and types of drones, other countries, including Israel and Iran, have devoted massive efforts to develop indigenous drone technologies.

    “Obviously when you have an unmanned aircraft, there is no risk of a pilot being shot down and killed or captured in hostile territory, so these unmanned aircraft make it possible to conduct operations in places where you wouldn’t want to put a human pilot at risk,” said John Villasenor, a professor of electrical engineering at UCLA and nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution whose area of expertise includes drone operations and remote surveillance.“They’re less expensive than manned aircraft; they don’t put human pilots at risk, so it’s not surprising that we are seeing more [evidence of drone operations].”


    Iranian video and photo evidence of captured U.S. Scan Eagle UAV


    Boeing ScanEagle displayed by IRGC officers on Iranian television






    Frame capture from PressTV video of captured ScanEagle UAV (1)



    Frame capture from PressTV video of captured ScanEagle UAV (2)



    Optics close-up of captured ScanEagle UAV shown through Iranian media


    *The White House and United States Navy insist they're not missing a ScanEagle UAV.

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