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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Fiord View Post
    Apparently Obama did am AMA on Reddit. The moderators of that subreddit do require proof and said proof apparently came in the form of the official Obama Twitter account saying he was intending to do this AMA. He took 30 minutes of questions after his rally in Charlottesville, VA

    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...united_states/
    From my experience the posts on Reddit tend to slant towards pro Obama, so this isn't too surprising he would do this.

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    You are correct. Many on Reddit are left leaning, but not all. I do go there from time to time for a laugh or a scary story and sometimes for an AMA. To be honest, I skimmed the O AMA.

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    Related rage comic from f7u12

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    lol
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    Gallup: Obama's Campaign Attacks Are Less Fair Than Romney's

    Saturday, 25 Aug 2012 08:38 PM
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    More Americans believe Barack Obama’s attacks on Mitt Romney are unfair, than think the Republican nominee is wrongly attacking the president, a new survey shows.

    The USA Today/Gallup poll found that 44 percent of all Americans say Obama has been attacking Romney unfairly during the campaign compared to 40 percent who think the wrong comes from the GOP's man.

    The findings show that on both sides there is an increasing perception that candidates are being unfairly attacked, with 38 percent of Americans last month saying Obama’s attacks were unfair vs. 36 percent for Romney.

    Two-thirds of Republicans and close to half of independents (46 percent) are now saying the president’s attacks on Romney are unfair, up from 59 percent and 38 percent, respectively.

    Independents have grown more critical of Obama's behavior than of Romney's, with about half of independents now perceiving Romney being attacked, the poll indicated.

    In fact, Romney’s ad that hits back at an Obama attack ad insinuating that he was responsible for the death of a cancer patient is driving down Obama’s numbers among independents for the first time in the campaign ad cycle, The Hill reported.

    Romney's "America Deserves Better" ad moved "pure independents" who remained undecided some 6 percentage points in Romney’s favor, a new study by Vanderbilt University found.



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    NMX: Mitch McConnell: Romney Must Repeal Obamacare

    Thursday, 30 Aug 2012 06:38 PM
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    As Mitt Romney prepared to accept the Republican presidential nomination on Thursday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told Newsmax.TV that his first job in the Oval Office should be to repeal Obamacare.

    “We have an obligation to the American people to repeal Obamacare,” McConnell told Newsmax in an exclusive interview at the Republican National Convention in Tampa. “The rate on Medicare that Paul Ryan talked about last night is real: $716 billion out of today’s Medicare program – not in the future but today’s Medicare – in order to pay for a program for people who are not old. A new program – a new entitlement program.

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    "We need to get it off the books, and if the American people give us the votes to do it, we will.”

    The Kentucky senator added that Romney must also dismantle the maze of regulations placed on private businesses by the Obama White House.

    “He needs to have one-year moratorium on all new regulations issued on Day One – and indicate that he’s going to go back and look at this raft of regulatory regimes that have been foisted on the private sector with some kind of cost-benefit ratio in mind, indicate that he’s not going to raise taxes on anybody – and basically make the point there’s a new sheriff in town.”

    This also includes a halt to the drastic cuts planned for the military and other U.S. agencies that take effect on Jan. 2 under sequestration.

    “We have to prevent Americans’ taxes from going up at the end of the year in the so-called sequester,” McConnell said. “I don’t think we ought to cut a penny less than we promised the American people we would.

    “But this isn’t the best way to do it, and we ought to sit down after the election – no matter who wins – and negotiate a reduction in spending in exactly the same amount as would occur under the sequester, and achieve that spending reduction as we promised we would.”

    Paul Ryan, 42, who accepted the vice presidential nomination on Wednesday, is ideal for helping Romney complete these tasks, McConnell said.

    “Paul is now the leader of the next generation. We have a lot of sharp young political leaders – Marco Rubio, for example – but Paul has been selected by Gov. Romney because he’s been the intellectual driving force in Congress for the last couple of years – a guy who’s thought about the future, who’s been bold enough to come up with prescriptions for America’s future and make no apologies for it.

    “It was a great choice for Gov. Romney, and he will be a terrific vice president for the country.”
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    Yeah.. right... "certification".. a government forced program. OF COURSE CompTIA would want the Socialists! Unions and all that BS. (I have a Sec+ cert from CompTia which I will point out was FORCED on me.... "Get it or get lost" was the comments from the government).

    Assholes.

    Obama vs. Romney: Who is Better for IT Industry?

    CompTIA poll shows more support in IT industry for President Obama vs. Mitt Romney in every area, including tax policy, access to capital, tech exports, education and privacy. "Not Sure" actually the big winner.

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    A new poll of Information Technology (IT) executives and integrators gives “Not Sure” a lead over both President Obama and Mitt Romney in terms which candidate will best help the industry.


    By Jason Knott, August 24, 2012
    President Obama and Mitt Romney both still have some campaigning to do with Information Technology (IT) industry executives and integrators.

    A new national study conducted by noted pollster John Zogby of JZ Analytics for CompTIA shows that President Obama is slightly favored over challenger Mitt Romney in terms of who would be best to help the IT industry. However, in every instance, about an equal percentage indicate no preference between the two candidates.

    On five key issues, tax policy, access to capital, small and medium business’ tech exports, STEM education (science, technology, engineering and math) and privacy, the respondents rated the two candidates about evenly, giving a slight edge to President Obama over Governor Romney in each case.

    The results to the question "Who would do a better job as president regarding the following important information technology issues that face the U.S. economy today?" are:

    Tax policies that promote innovation & jobs in the U.S. IT sector
    Obama 38%
    Romney 25%
    Neither / Not Sure 37%

    Access to capital to advance start-ups and business expansion
    Obama 33%
    Romney 30%
    Neither / Not Sure 37%

    Expansion of tech exports by U.S. small and medium sized IT businesses
    Obama 34%
    Romney 27%
    Neither / Not Sure 39%

    Promote STEM education (science, technology, engineering and math)
    Obama 37%
    Romney 25%
    Neither / Not Sure 38%

    Ensure privacy as part of broadband, online and mobile policy
    Obama 32%
    Romney 26%
    Neither / Not Sure 42%

    Zogby says that IT industry executives support at least a moderate role of government in addressing challenges faced by the industry. But the survey also is permeated with a sense of disengagement with the current political process and a significant plurality undecided with respect to which candidate would address various IT issues more effectively. The Zogby companies have produced polls with "an unparalleled record of accuracy and reliability in the polling field," according to the company, adding that its telephone and interactive surveys have "generally been the most accurate in U.S. Presidential elections since 1996."

    “This late into the political season, we are seeing a high level of disengagement from those in the IT sector.” Zogby reports. “This is true across company size, specialization and geographic region.”

    “As we gear up for the elections this fall, we’re finding that messages from the candidates have yet to resonate with the IT sector and the challenges and opportunities before the industry,” says Todd Thibodeaux, president and chief executive officer, CompTIA. “Despite global economic uncertainties, the United States remains a leader in innovation, particularly in technology. Any candidate hoping to win the support of the industry will need to provide a stronger vision for how we retain and expand our leadership in this growing and vibrant IT sector.”

    Several economic indicators show that the United States remains a global leader in IT business innovation; however, the perception among those surveyed reflected uncertainty over the future.

    Among the key findings, two in three surveyed (64 percent) fear a loss of U.S. leadership in the global information technology sector. Another two out of three (68 percent) believe this change in U.S. leadership will have a harmful impact on economic growth and jobs. Nearly one-third of those surveyed (31 percent) believe it is a priority for government to keep IT businesses in the U.S.
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    Tax policies that promote innovation & jobs in the U.S. IT sector <---- WRONG, Socialism at it's best
    Obama 38%
    Romney 25%
    Neither / Not Sure 37%

    Access to capital to advance start-ups and business expansion <---- WRONG, Obama HATES business
    Obama 33%
    Romney 30%
    Neither / Not Sure 37%

    Expansion of tech exports by U.S. small and medium sized IT businesses <---- Right, Obama is FORCING biz overseas.
    Obama 34%
    Romney 27%
    Neither / Not Sure 39%

    Promote STEM education (science, technology, engineering and math) <---- WRONG, Teachers Unions' influence
    Obama 37%
    Romney 25%
    Neither / Not Sure 38%

    Ensure privacy as part of broadband, online and mobile policy <---- WAY WRONG, Obama will listen in on everything
    Obama 32%
    Romney 26%
    Neither / Not Sure 42%

    This shows how stupid these people who "get certified" really are
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    Rasmussen is reporting that Obama and Romney are TIED in the swing states.

    Sounds about right.

    What gets me is all these other polls saying how Obama is WAY ahead of Romney.

    I think they are just lying now.
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    While it would suck to be out of a job, and I wouldn't suggest anyone get into IT these days unless you enjoy it, neither of these clowns will have much affect on IT jobs in any fashion.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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    Yeah, that's MY thinking Mal.

    Given where I work, I can't see any effect either will have. Except that pesky thing about destroying America's ability to fend of nuclear attacks and such like that....

    And believe me IT has a huge part to play in that, since we communicate "over the internet" now, instead of radio systems. We use the internet for launching rockets. We use it for making sure we have up-to-date data, etc.

    IT is a big part of missile defense and military defense now. I did my best while still in the service to keep HF radio as an active component of our communications systems and it looks like I lost that battle when I left the service and quit the fight.

    Now it's "computers are everything"....

    Until EMP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    Rasmussen is reporting that Obama and Romney are TIED in the swing states.

    Sounds about right.

    What gets me is all these other polls saying how Obama is WAY ahead of Romney.

    I think they are just lying now.
    They say that Media reporting is biased by 4-6 points. This means Romney is way ahead.

    If they say the Donkey/Ass is ahead, he's currently losing rather handily.

    Go here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...kerry-939.html

    Take note of the July/August polling. The vast majority had the Donk far in the lead. The reality is that the polls were biased.
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    If I read this right, even RCP is saying Obama currently has a +1 point lead.

    Which means he's losing his asshat....
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    Romney announced a few hours ago he is headed to New Orleans.

    I made the crack, "Romney, doing the job the American (President) won't do".

    Jay Carney just announced "Obama will be headed to New Orleans on Monday".

    LOL
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    OMG these leftist are desperate... lol

    Americans split on who they think will win the election

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    Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks for a sound check during the final day of the Republican National Convention at the Tampa Bay Times Forum on August 30, 2012 in Tampa, Fla.









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    Kai Ryssdal: Politicians can talk and pontificate and speechify all they want, but once all's said and done, voters are the one's who have to figure out what they really think.
    Frank Newport is the editor-in-chief at Gallup, where what they do is ask Americans what they think about things. He's back to give us a little Attitude Check. Frank, good to talk to you.
    Frank Newport: Good to be with you, Kai.
    Ryssdal: You guys just had some numbers about who Americans think is going to win. Give me those numbers, and then I have a question for you.
    Newport: All right. Fifty-eight percent of Americans think that Barack Obama will be elected president on Nov. 6; 36 percent say it'll be Mitt Romney. Those data come from the exact same people who when you ask, 'Who are you going to vote for personally?' are split right down the middle.
    Ryssdal: Oh is that right?
    Newport: Yeah.
    Ryssdal: That's crazy.
    Newport: So the ballot itself, when you ask American voters who are you going to vote for, it's split. But when you say, 'All right, tell us who's going to win in your heart of hearts?" It tilts significantly towards Obama. And a lot of it is caused by Romney voters who say 'I'm voting for Romney but if you really press me, I think Obama's going to win.'
    Ryssdal: OK, now: How much of what happens in presidential elections is a self-fulfilling prophecy based on that split of who people think is going to win, if you take my meaning?
    Newport: Yeah, oh absolutely. You put your finger on something that's called the bandwagon effect, which some people have argued there is a momentum or an inevitability created by somebody who people think is going to win. Hard to prove that. There's also the theory, Kai, that there's an anti-bandwagon effect, so that if people think they're behind, they're going to work even harder. That would be Romney's supporters in this situation.
    Ryssdal: Another thing that's come up in this election of course, Frank, is who's better on the economy: Gov. Romney wins that one fairly handily. But President Obama has the likeability factor going for him; polls much stronger than the governor does on that one. Is either of those predictive?
    Newport: They're both predictive, and they both kind of describe the election. How both gentlemen should play this out is a fascinating question. My view is that probably we all do better playing off our strengths, and that would be for Mitt Romney rather than trying to be likeable suddenly, in his speech hammering home the economy and why he thinks he can do a better job than Barack Obama.
    Ryssdal: And then the president next week, does he give a likeability speech?
    Newport: Well you know, that's his strength, so literally he just has to be himself, because he's been himself over the last four years. And the one thing we see in the data is Barack Obama is substantially more likeable based on what voters tell us than his opponent Mitt Romney.
    Ryssdal: Frank Newport, he is the editor-in-chief at Gallup. Frank, thanks a lot.
    Newport: My pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    Romney announced a few hours ago he is headed to New Orleans.

    I made the crack, "Romney, doing the job the American (President) won't do".

    Jay Carney just announced "Obama will be headed to New Orleans on Monday".

    LOL
    And Dumbocrats are livid claiming Romney is upsetting the area and the disaster zone. LOL
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    Was checking some news about polls this morning.... it's not looking good - For Obama.

    Every single one of the news stories reporting on the polls are reporting "People like Romney better, but Obama leading".

    When you look at the articles, all of them report Obama is BEHIND 3-5% and yet somehow out of that all they are claiming Obama is ahead in the polls lol


    The Hill Poll: Voters blame president most for slow economic recovery

    By Sheldon Alberts - 07/23/12 05:00 AM ET


    Two-thirds of likely voters say the weak economy is Washington’s fault, and more blame President Obama than anybody else, according to a new poll for The Hill.


    It found that 66 percent believe paltry job growth and slow economic recovery is the result of bad policy. Thirty-four percent say Obama is the most to blame, followed by 23 percent who say Congress is the culprit. Twenty percent point the finger at Wall Street, and 18 percent cite former President George W. Bush.








    The results highlight the reelection challenge Obama faces amid dissatisfaction with his first-term performance on the economy.

    The poll, conducted for The Hill by Pulse Opinion Research, found 53 percent of voters say Obama has taken the wrong actions and has slowed the economy down. Forty-two percent said he has taken the right actions to revive the economy, while six percent said they were not sure.


    Obama has argued throughout the presidential campaign that his policies have made the economy better. He says recovery is taking a long time because he inherited such deep economic trouble upon taking office in 2009.


    “The problems we’re facing right now have been more than a decade in the making,” he told an audience last month in Cleveland.

    Obama’s campaign, under the slogan “Forward,” has sought to steer voter attention less toward current and past economic performance and more toward questions about Republican Mitt Romney’s work in the private sector economy. It has launched attacks on the challenger’s role as head of the private equity firm Bain Capital, casting him as a jobs “outsourcer” whose firm shipped thousands of U.S. positions overseas.


    The Hill Poll, however, shows the extent to which voters hold Obama responsible for the economy and reveals his vulnerability should the election become primarily a referendum on his economic management.


    It finds that voters strongly believe more could have been done by the White House and in Congress to achieve growth in the economy and employment.


    While 64 percent of voters consider this downturn to be “much more severe” than previous contractions, barely one quarter (26 percent) say the agonizingly slow pace of the recovery was unavoidable.


    While voters feel Obama carries a greater portion of the blame than others, the poll found almost 6-in-10 are unhappy with the actions of Republicans in Congress who have challenged the president on an array of policy initiatives.


    Fifty-seven percent of voters said congressional Republicans have impeded the recovery with their policies, and only 30 percent overall believe the GOP has done the right things to boost the economy.


    The tension between a Republican-controlled House of Representatives and a Democratic-run White House has also featured in Obama’s campaign strategy.


    In his economic speech last month in Cleveland, Obama cast the 2012 election as a chance to choose between two competing visions for the nation.


    “What’s holding us back is a stalemate in Washington between two fundamentally different views of which direction America should take,” he said. “This election is your chance to break that stalemate.”


    Romney agrees that the election is a choice between two radically different views of America, but he characterizes it as a contest between his own vision of an industrious people free to achieve their dreams and Obama’s faith in big government.


    If there is a silver lining for Obama in the poll results, it’s that centrist voters, who may well decide the 2012 outcome, tend to blame Republicans in Congress more than the president for hindering a more robust recovery.


    Twenty-six percent of centrists cited Congress as most to blame for U.S. economic woes, compared to 20 percent who blame Obama.


    Similarly, 53 percent of centrists said Obama has taken the right actions as president to boost the economy, compared with 38 percent who said he had taken the wrong steps.


    Seventy-nine percent of centrist voters said Republicans had slowed the economy by taking wrong actions. Only 13 percent of centrists credited GOP lawmakers with policies that have helped the economy.


    The poll found sharp differences in opinions along racial lines, with 94 percent of African-Americans saying Obama had taken the right actions on the economy, compared to 34 percent of white voters.


    The Hill poll was conducted July 19 among 1,000 likely voters, and has a 3 percentage point margin of error.
    UPDATED: This story has been updated to show correct date the poll was conducted.
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    Poll Date Sample MoE Obama (D) Romney (R) Spread
    RCP Average 8/19 - 9/2 -- -- 46.4 46.4 Tie


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html
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    This is rather "telling":

    RCP Average 8/19 - 9/2 -- -- 46.4 46.4 Tie


    CNN/Opinion Research 8/22 - 8/23 719 LV 3.5 49 47 Obama +2
    FOX News 8/19 - 8/21 1007 LV 3.0 44 45 Romney +1
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    Spirit of ’08 Gone, Democrats Reunite Against G.O.P. Threat

    By ADAM NAGOURNEY

    Published: September 3, 2012



    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Four years ago, Barack Obama accepted the presidential nomination of a Democratic Party that was as unified and energized as at any moment in its past: Clintons and Kennedys, labor and Wall Street, centrists and leftists, old and young, blacks, whites and Hispanics. It bristled with the excitement of history and the expectations of a new era.


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    Caroline Kennedy and her uncle Edward M. Kennedy were early Obama supporters.



    But Democrats are arriving here to nominate President Obama for a second term in an atmosphere far removed from the Denver convention in 2008, driven by a different kind of urgency and with new questions about their party’s direction.
    Their unity at this point is defined less by faith in Mr. Obama or a robust vision for what the party should stand for than by the prospect that Republicans could control the White House and Congress next year and enact a conservative agenda that would unravel much of what Democrats have stood for since Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society. Mitt Romney’s selection of Representative Paul D. Ryan as his running mate has only intensified the ideological fervor.
    “It’s because the Republican Party has moved completely to the right,” Bob Kerrey, a centrist Democrat and former senator running again for the Senate from Nebraska, said of his party’s newfound unity.
    Caroline Kennedy, whose endorsement, along with that of her uncle Senator Edward M. Kennedy, of Mr. Obama in 2008 signaled the generational excitement that marked the last campaign, said Democrats were approaching 2012 in “a more serious sober way, given the conditions.”
    “They may not be as exhilarated as they were last time,” Ms. Kennedy said. “But I think they are just as committed.”
    Negative campaigning, whether against Mr. Romney personally or against what he stands for, can be a powerful tool for the White House. But it raises the question of whether, if he wins, Mr. Obama will be able to claim a mandate from voters and rally the elements of his party in the service of any kind of ambitious second-term agenda of his own.
    “Certain interest groups in the Democratic Party who three months ago were complaining, ‘They don’t like this, they don’t like that’ — you don’t hear that anymore,” said Senator Charles E. Schumer, a New York Democrat. “The consequences of not winning are becoming clearer.”
    In many ways the Democratic Party has reverted to form — an unruly conglomeration of sometimes competing interests, united in a belief that government has a crucial role to play in the economy and social justice, but often divided by priorities, means and values.
    In Washington, the White House and Democratic leaders in Congress have largely stuck together on legislative and political strategy, and at the grass-roots level there has been no ideological purity test of the sort that has fostered a series of disruptive primary challenges to established Republican incumbents.
    Moderate Democrats are concerned that Mr. Obama has alienated business constituencies by cracking down on Wall Street. Occupy Wall Street is protesting in the streets of Charlotte over what it sees as too-lenient policies toward banks. Liberals have criticized Mr. Obama for neglecting poverty and for continuing many of the antiterrorism policies of President George W. Bush.
    Centrists are open to cuts in entitlement programs to address the nation’s long-term fiscal problems. Liberals want more spending on education and health and higher taxes on the wealthy.
    “I don’t know if I’ve ever found anyone who has run for high political office who has been able to capture and hold every faction of the Democratic Party for long periods of time,” said Tom Daschle, a Democratic former Senate majority leader. “There are some who wish he were more liberal and some who wish he was more conservative. He is what he is.”
    Mr. Obama has, if slowly, taken stands that many members of his party long felt were politically risky, including support for same-sex marriage and issuing an order granting many young illegal immigrants brought to this country as children a two-year reprieve from deportation.
    “They’re Democrats — they are always going to be disappointed,” Ms. Kennedy said. “But I think his stands on gay marriage and immigration this year changes that. I think he’s accomplished some really substantive things that people gloss over.”
    Many liberals credit him with achieving his health care overhaul. Still, some Democrats say Mr. Obama, consumed with crisis management in the early stages of his term and the rise of the Tea Party, has yet to rally the party to a long-term agenda that transcends the moment and would put his mark on the party beyond his presidency.
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