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    Gates Sees North Korea Becoming `Direct' Threat to U.S. on Missile Advance
    By Bloomberg News - Jan 11, 2011 6:37 AM MT


    Defense Secretary Robert Gates said North Korea is becoming a “direct threat” to the U.S. and advocated working more closely with China to contain the regime of Kim Jong Il.

    While the North doesn’t pose an immediate problem, the totalitarian country probably will develop an intercontinental ballistic missile within the next five years, Gates told reporters today during a three-day visit to Beijing.

    “North Korea is becoming a direct threat to the United States and we have to take that into account,” he said, also citing its development of nuclear technology. Intercontinental ballistic missiles most often carry nuclear warheads.

    Gates is seeking stepped-up military cooperation from China, which he said has been more helpful in recent months in pressuring North Korea to refrain from further conflict with the South after two attacks last year. U.S. concerns about North Korea in the past have focused mostly on nuclear-technology transfers to Pakistan and Iran, and on its threat to South Korea, which the U.S. is obliged to protect by treaty.

    His assessment today differs from comments he made during a June 2009 stop at Fort Greely, Alaska, to visit an 800-acre missile-defense site. Asked then whether North Korea’s weapons program was a threat to the U.S., Gates said: “Not yet, no.”

    Earlier that week, Marine Corps General James Cartwright, vice chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said North Korea would need at least three to five years to develop a missile that could reach the U.S.

    ‘Increasingly Real’

    Gates’s comments today carry particular weight because they come from the defense chief, said Kim Yong Hyun, professor of North Korean studies at Dongguk University in Seoul.

    “The U.S. is highlighting the increasingly real threats posed by North Korea, which had previously been seen as just potential concerns,” Kim said. “Gates is also sending a message to China that it needs to play a bigger role in containing North Korea.”

    It’s unclear how unified the Chinese leadership may be on relations with the U.S. Gates was forced to challenge Chinese President Hu Jintao in their meeting today over a reported test of a new aircraft, the J-20, intended as a stealth fighter.

    “I asked President Hu about it directly,” Gates told reporters after his meeting. “He said the test had absolutely nothing to do with my visit and had been a preplanned test.”

    The surprise timing of the test during Gates’s visit and just before Hu travels to Washington for a Jan. 19 state dinner at the White House runs counter to the Obama administration’s expressed desire for China to be more forthcoming about its military plans and intentions.

    Signal to U.S.?

    The test may have served as a signal to the Americans or as a message from the Chinese military to its civilian leaders. None of the civilians in the meeting at which Gates brought up the test, including Hu, seemed to be aware of the flight, a U.S. defense official said on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak publicly.

    Gates said last year that he sensed China’s civilian leaders are more interested in improving contacts with the U.S. than the country’s armed-forces leadership.

    He proposed to his Chinese counterpart yesterday, and to the foreign minister and Hu today, that the two sides begin a strategic-security dialogue this year that would include discussions of each side’s nuclear-weapons strategy.

    ‘Long Game’

    “It was clear from President Hu that they’re taking the proposal seriously,” Gates said today. “I think they’re trying to work their way through how it would relate to the other mechanisms of dialogue that we have in the military-security arena and what the agenda would be.”

    The process of improving military relations with China will take time, Gates said.

    “This is an arena where we have to play the long game,” he said. “This is not an arena where I think you will see dramatic breakthroughs or big headlines.”

    One of the biggest obstacles has been U.S. arms sales to Taiwan, which usually result in China putting contacts with the Americans on ice. Gates held out the prospect that the U.S. may change the practice over time with an improvement in security for Taiwan and continuing improved relations between the island and the mainland.

    “Perhaps that would create the conditions for examining all of this,” he said.

    Domestic Pressure

    On the Korean Peninsula, South Korean leaders are under rising domestic pressure to take more action against North Korea after attacks last year that killed 50 people. The civil war foes have traded threats to escalate their military responses to what both describe as provocations from the other side.

    The U.S. and China can work together to prevent an escalation of tensions into conflict on the Korean peninsula, Gates said today in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Beijing.

    “The Chinese have exercised a constructive influence to damp tensions and to try and bring about greater restraint in Pyongyang,” he said. “We have a common interest” in heading off provocative acts and getting “the relationship between the North and the South on a more positive track.”

    Gates told reporters later that China appears to have persuaded officials in Pyongyang not to retaliate against military exercises that South Korea and the U.S. staged in response to the North Korean attacks. North Korea could also ban missile and nuclear testing to demonstrate it’s serious about changing its behavior include, he said.

    Pressing Iran

    The defense secretary also is seeking Chinese support for pressure on Iran to curb its nuclear program in a way that would ensure it couldn’t develop atomic weapons. Technical glitches and sanctions that have delayed Iran’s nuclear program give the U.S. and its partners more time to exert pressure without resorting to military action, Gates said in the interview.

    “As we say, all options are on the table and we prepare for all options,” he said. “If we have bought some additional time, it does give greater opportunity to the political-economic strategy.”

    After further meetings in Beijing and a visit to the Great Wall, Gates travels to Tokyo tomorrow for meetings with Japanese officials to discuss North Korea and potential weapons purchases.

    “The Japanese government is considering the purchase of its next generation of fighter aircraft,” he said. “That would give the Japanese the opportunity, if they bought the right airplane, to have a fifth-generation capability. I might have a few suggestions for them.”

    To contact the reporters on this story: Viola Gienger in Beijing at vgienger@bloomberg.net; Michael Forsythe in Beijing at mforsythe@bloomberg.net.

    To contact the editor responsible for this story: Peter Hirschberg at phirschberg@bloomberg.net
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    Gates Says North Korea Could Be a Threat to US Within 5 Years

    Al Pessin | Beijing 11 January 2011
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    U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates shakes hands with China's President Hu Jintao, at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, 11 Jan 2011.

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    U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates says North Korea will likely have a missile that can reach the United States within five years, and his talks in Beijing this week were aimed in part at getting China to help put the Pyongyang government "on a different path." Gates wants North Korea to declare a moratorium on further testing of its most dangerous weapons.

    Secretary Gates told reporters he shared this concern with Chinese officials.
    "With the North Koreans continuing development of nuclear weapons and their development of intercontinental ballistic missiles, North Korea is becoming a direct threat to the United States and we have to take that into account," he said.

    Gates said any capability for a North Korean missile attack on the United States will be "very limited" in five years, but he said it is still cause for concern.

    "I think it is the combination of the continuing nuclear programs but also the progress that they are making with the intercontinental ballistic missiles," said Gates. "I don’t think it is an immediate threat, no, but on the other hand I don’t think it is a five-year threat."

    Secretary Gates said North Korea could demonstrate its sincerity as it now seeks renewed talks with the South by declaring a moratorium on missile and nuclear testing.

    He said he discussed North Korea with all the Chinese officials he met with in Beijing on Monday and Tuesday, including President Hu Jintao. He said he did not ask for specific action, but did ask for help. China has more influence on North Korea than any other country, but even Chinese officials appear to have been frustrated with the country’s unpredictable leaders in recent months. Gates praised Chinese efforts to help ease tensions after two North Korean attacks, one on a South Korean ship and another on an island.

    Gates’ statement that North Korea will be able to directly threaten the United States raises concerns about the country’s high-technology weapons and unpredictable leadership to a new level. Gates called the situation on the Korean Peninsula a "real concern," and said "there is some urgency" to moving ahead with negotiations. In addition to the emerging threat to the United States, he said South Koreans are losing patience, and another North Korean attack would bring pressure for a reaction by the Seoul government.
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    Default Re: Gates Sees North Korea Becoming `Direct' Threat to U.S. on Missile Advance

    Gates: North Korea Could Nuke US

    Defense Secretary Says Situation a 'Direct Threat'

    by Jason Ditz, January 11, 2011



    Citing North Korea’s continued effort to improve its not entirely effective long range missile program, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates predicted that not only would the nation have a “limited ability” to attack the continental United States within five years, but that they could use nuclear warheads when doing so.

    Predictions of this sort are pretty common, and indeed two years ago the administration predicted that North Korea would have that capability in mid-2012. It seems US officials are forever more optimistic about North Korea’s ability to advance these programs than the North is, however.

    The endless speculation centers around the Taepodong-2, a missile which has been in development since 1987. North Korea’s government has twice tested the missile, in 2006 and 2009, and it failed both times.

    US officials seem convinced enough of the missile’s viability, at least to the extent that it can be used to demand major funding of missile defense systems, which themselves don’t work particularly well, to shoot down the missiles on the off chance they ever get them working.

    But Gates insists this proves North Korea poses a ‘direct threat’ to the US and that they must be “engaged” soon. Though he mentions negotiation the US has repeatedly rejected the notion of talks with the North Korean government.

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    Default Re: Gates Sees North Korea Becoming `Direct' Threat to U.S. on Missile Advance

    Quote Originally Posted by michael2 View Post
    I say that North Korea has this capacity to strike the continental US NOW, because as with Iran, if they didn't we would've already struck at their development program to prevent it. Perhaps the reason why the Government doesn't go public with this is because of the voter outrage it would produce, that the US was asleep once more while enemies were enabled to potentially destroy us...
    They can't hit the US directly, except for Alaska and Hawaii. That's a fact.

    They don't have any missile launching ships or subs as far as I know personally, but I am not an expert on everything the North Koreans do. I do know a little something about their missiles though - perhaps more than most Americans know about their missiles.

    On the other hand - they PROBABLY have some long range Chinese stuff, and some long range Russian stuff.

    I'm not sure about the comment "why the Government doesn't go public"... go public with what? We already KNOW they are working with China, Russia and Iran on various programs.

    Open source documentation - and just plain news articles here proves all that. You can read this site and put a lot of the pieces together easily. Ask Ryan even. He has a pretty good handle on this as well I think.

    But - fact is, right now they can't nuke LA unless they can move a ship in place with a rocket in a container. Then, their nukes aren't going to vaporize the whole city just do localized damage (and kill a lot of people from radiological poisoning).

    It wouldn't be a hard stretch though for them to get a container ship in place or some other vessel and do something like that, but it would be a one-time, one-shot deal.
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