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    China Begins Aircraft Carrier Flight Training

    BEIJING October 15, 2012 (AP)

    China has begun flight training on its first aircraft carrier, with photographs posted on websites Monday showing navy pilots practicing touch-and-go landing exercises.

    Military enthusiast websites posted pictures of a J-15 fighter-bomber executing the maneuver, in which the plane makes brief contact with the flight deck before flying on. It wasn't clear when the pictures were taken, and they did not appear on the Defense Ministry's website or in official media.

    The exercises are the latest move to provide a combat capability for the carrier, which was launched last month without aircraft or an accompanying battle group. The next step would be the launching and recovery of aircraft, a much trickier process that may be years away.


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    Chinese-produced Z-8 helicopters have also been practicing take-offs and landings on the carrier. Both aircraft are based on Russian and French designs. Chinese pilots are believed to have been practicing carrier operations on mock flight decks located inland.

    The carrier is the former Soviet navy's unfinished Varyag, which was towed from Ukraine in 1998 minus its engines, weaponry and navigation systems. Christened the Liaoning, the province where its home port is located, the ship began sea trials in August 2011 following years of refurbishment.

    The carrier's launch underscores China's ambitions to be a leading Asian naval power amid sharpening conflicts with its neighbors over disputed island chains in the South China and East China Seas.

    Beijing hasn't said what exact role it intends the carrier to fill other than helping safeguard China's coastline and sea links. The Liaoning has also been portrayed as a kind of test platform for the future development of domestically built Chinese carriers.

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    China Lands First Jet On Its Aircraft Carrier

    November 25, 2012



    China has successfully landed a fighter jet on its first aircraft carrier, which entered service two months ago, the country's official news agency confirmed Sunday.

    The Liaoning aircraft carrier underscores China's ambitions to be a leading Asian naval power, but it is not expected to carry a full complement of planes or be ready for combat for some time.

    Xinhua News Agency said the landing exercise marked the debut of the J-15 fighter jet, a carrier-based fighter-bomber developed by China from Russia's Sukhoi Su-33.

    The Defense Ministry's website carried photos of the jet taking off from and landing on the carrier.

    Citing unnamed naval sources, Xinhua said that the carrier platform and J-15 capabilities met all requirements and achieved "good compatibility."

    Xinhua says the J-15 is able to carry anti-ship, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles and precision-guided bombs.

    Since China's Liaoning ship formally entered into service on Sept. 25, its crew members have completed more than 100 training and test programs, Xinhua said.

    China bought the former Soviet navy's unfinished carrier from Ukraine in 1998 and spent years refurbishing it.



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    Well, since the Chinese are new to the whole carrier aviation thing, I suppose each takeoff and landing is a gamble!

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    China conducts flight landing on aircraft carrier

    English.news.cn 2012-11-25 00:16:35



    This undated photo shows staff members checking a carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet on China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning. China has successfully conducted flight landing on its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning. After its delivery to the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy on Sept. 25, the aircraft carrier has undergone a series of sailing and technological tests, including the flight of the carrier-borne J-15. Capabilities of the carrier platform and the J-15 have been tested, meeting all requirements and achieving good compatibility, the PLA Navy said. Designed by and made in China, the J-15 is able to carry multi-type anti-ship, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, as well as precision-guided bombs. The J-15 has comprehensive capabilities comparable to those of the Russian Su-33 jet and the U.S. F-18, military experts estimated. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)

    LIAONING AIRCRAFT CARRIER, Nov. 25 (Xinhua) -- China has successfully conducted flight landing on its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, naval sources said.

    A new J-15 fighter jet was used as part of the landing exercise.

    After its delivery to the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy on Sept. 25, the aircraft carrier has undergone a series of sailing and technological tests, including the flight of the carrier-borne J-15.

    Capabilities of the carrier platform and the J-15 have been tested, meeting all requirements and achieving good compatibility, the PLA Navy said.

    Since the carrier entered service, the crew have completed more than 100 training and test programs.

    The successful flight landing also marked the debut of the J-15 as China's first generation multi-purpose carrier-borne fighter jet, the PLA Navy said.

    Designed by and made in China, the J-15 is able to carry multi-type anti-ship, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, as well as precision-guided bombs.

    The J-15 has comprehensive capabilities comparable to those of the Russian Su-33 jet and the U.S. F-18, military experts estimated.

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    Neighbours wary as China lands fighter jet on its first aircraft carrier

    China has landed a fighter jet on its first aircraft carrier, in a symbolic development watched warily by its Asian neighbours fretting about the military ambitions of the world's most populous country.


    A carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet on China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning Photo: AP/XINHUA

    7:36PM GMT 25 Nov 2012

    The home-built J-15 fighter jet took off from and landed on the Liaoning, a reconditioned Soviet-era vessel from Ukraine which only came into service in September this year.

    China ushered in a new generation of leaders this month at the 18th Communist Party Congress in Beijing, with outgoing President Hu Jintao making a pointed reference to strengthening China's naval forces, protecting maritime interests and the need to "win local war".

    China is embroiled in disputes with the Philippines and Vietnam over South China Sea islands believed to be surrounded by waters rich in natural gas. It has a similar dispute with Japan over islands in the East China Sea.

    It has also warned the United States, with President Barack Obama's "pivot" to Asia, not to get involved.

    "We should make active planning for the use of military forces in peacetime, expand and intensify military preparedness, and enhance the capability to accomplish a wide range of military tasks, the most important of which is to win local war in an information age," Mr Hu said.

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    China has advertised its long-term military ambitions with shows of new hardware, including its first test flight of a stealth fighter jet in early 2011, an elite helicopter unit and the launch of the aircraft carrier.

    China is boosting military spending by 11.2 percent this year, bringing official outlays on the People's Liberation Army to 670.3 billion yuan ($100 billion) for 2012, after a 12.7 percent increase last year and a near-unbroken string of double-digit rises across two decades.

    Beijing's public budget is widely thought by foreign experts to undercount its real spending on military modernisation, which has drawn repeated calls from the United States for China to share more about its intentions.

    China's state-run Xinhua news portal said the J-15 - which can carry multi-type anti-ship, air-to-air, and air-to-ground missiles - is comparable to the Russian Su-33 jet and the U.S. F-18. It did not say when the landing on the carrier took place.
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    Chinese aircraft carriers today landing a successful pilot Deming League

    November 23, 2012 3:36 Dazhong




    Do: Chuan Chinese aircraft carriers successfully landing

    Ball Times reporter Ma Liu Yang F -15 carrier-based fighter on the the 'Liaoning ship' today the successful completion of the landing test successful landing."

    China's first aircraft carrier, the carrier-based aircraft training progress has become the focus of outside attention. The newspaper was informed that the Chinese carrier aircraft F -15 this morning landed on the the "Liaoning ship deck, the first drop by pilots Deming League success.

    November 5, the front page of the "Liberation Army Daily and defense newspaper website released the news on the take-off of aircraft carriers touch ship This means joint training ships and planes have the technical conditions.

    Aviation experts, the J-10 chief test pilot Xuyong Ling told reporters described the importance of touch-ship takeoff, take off the process with a formal landing identical apart from hanging of arresting ropes and deceleration process, touch the ship.

    Subsequently, eighteen during the national carrier works 701 Research Institute of China Shipbuilding Heavy Industry, deputy chief designer Wu Xiaoguang said publicly that people will soon see China's carrier-based aircraft carrier landing or taking off, the time may be at this month may also be in this year.

    At the same time, China's first aircraft carrier the "Liaoning ship" Offshore waters are pilot, which is the second time it has been put into service in September this year, the sea trials.

    The reason why the carrier-based aircraft carrier landing message triggered a high degree of attention of the outside world, because there is no carrier-based aircraft, an aircraft carrier aircraft carrier would be difficult to call it a real sense. A military expert said: "Only when the 'Liaoning ship' successful completion of a carrier-based fighter jets taking off and landing test flight, it can become the true sense of the aircraft carrier, otherwise it can only be regarded as a mobile platform at sea."

    Xuyong Ling analysis for highly complex systems, aircraft carriers, the first landing of the difficulty the two carrier aircraft system personnel with relevant aircraft carrier, the first carrier pilots landing huge technical and psychological pressure.

    Because of the technical content and mission mode differences Arresting a missed approach and touch the ship is too big, even if the after repeated touch the ship missed approach training, the first time for the carrier pilots landing is still challenging.

    Let the pilots in the entire landing complex process, take full advantage of the technical level is not realistic, but complex tasks in this highly stressful stage, the pilots can not afford to make big mistakes, especially not continuous mistakes, but the key Arresting process is not allowed to make any mistakes, this is an almost insurmountable task for the pilots, first flight pilots, he must ensure absolute security under the premise of the highest possible quality to complete the task, This requires pilots to have a strong psychological and absolutely superb skills.

    The news extends maiden flight of the first people

    In addition, the newspaper was also informed, the landing the success of the first pilot Deming League. Xuyong Ling, carrier-based aircraft carrier landing completely rely on the pilot manually operated Moreover, the whole process is the "Asian security state", the degree of difficulty is far greater than the astronauts of the space mission. Accordingly, the carrier aircraft for the first time successfully landing the achievements and significance of the aircraft carrier, also can be comparable with the breakthrough of space action.

    "The Ningbo Daily" reported that, in 2006, Deming Union from the East China Sea Fleet of the air and sea eagle group ", served as a battalion.

    The Deming League is a stern man. "He encountered a problem at work is always a simmering." Married for so many years, his wife Jiang Yan has long practiced the wind blows "piercing eyes", the husband each subtle changes escape her eyes.

    "If he went home, did not dare to face me in the eye, but hard at the baby to play, or reading into the back room, that will be the thing of his work, I can not help, and also do not ask." Jiang Yan deal with her husband's heart thing has her own trick: "One look at his emotional amiss, my 'killer' is to create a happy, relaxed atmosphere. I will Jizhongshengzhi to arrange some small programs, such as a new daughter grow teeth, we went to celebrate it today is your first visit to my house to see my 5 anniversary to celebrate. purpose is to make him happy. "wife brains of small programs always bring her husband freshness.

    "I took him to eat his favorite boiled fish, or to play with him favorite roller skating, or take him to the dance. At this time, he will inadvertently troubles at work said to me listen, to untie the knot, and good mood. "Jiang Yan said. The (GONG Army)

    Quick assessment by experts

    The carrier-based aircraft carrier landing caused general concern of the foreign media and some foreign media may like to take things to a new round of speculation of the "China military threat theory". China's aircraft carrier development path is righteous.

    Chinese military experts said Peng Guangqian, China's core interests of the inviolability of the dignity of the Chinese nation can not be profane, every inch of the Holy Land in China do not allow anyone to steal, but we will never use aircraft and other means to grab wins an inch of land belongs to someone else . Legal Evening News Dan Guo aid

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    Interesting things to consider

    I know I'm due to post something on the Zhuhai airshow and I will get to that this weekend along with some new 054A photos and other photos. But I read an interesting article by Pat Buchanan today and I thought I'd comment on it. For those who don't know, Pat Buchanan is a prominent conservative (the old-time fiscal conservative rather than social conservative of today). You can find the article here.

    Basically, he raises some interesting points about the rise of China and fall of USA. If we really think about it, the biggest gap separating USA and China is the manufacturing capability and the technology gap.

    Even after years of improvement, US still leads China by decades in certain areas. I think what he stressed there that's important is that China has really been moving up the value chain in manufacturing. At the same time, US manufacturing industry has been on a steady decline and the service industry is by far the largest one now.

    When we shift the focus to the military side, it's clear that civilian technology/manufacturing trends are also present there. We see a vibrant shipbuilding industry in China, compared to a non-existent shipbuilding industry in America.

    So even though there is a technological gap between the latest PLAN and USN ships, the production is a different story. China is building many new naval ships on time and on budget, whereas USN is plagued with cost overruns. It all comes down to the fact that China has the manufacturing capacity here, whereas US does not.

    Automaking is an industry that is the foundation of manufacturing. US became the manufacturing center of the world due to its car making prowess.

    The entire concept of assembly line and mass production was started by Ford.

    Make no mistake, even with the big 3 in trouble, US will still be the largest card producer in the world due to the fact that all foreign automakers are building their cars in America now. Well things have certainly changed now.

    At the same time, you see that China is still having trouble breaking into European/North American market due to the safety and emission requirements in these markets.

    However, you are finally seeing different private and public automakers in China really expanding their operations and mass producing cars. So, there is a technological gap, but the manufacturing gap is almost irrelevant here. Both countries have the manufacturing capability to produce the trucks, vehicles and tanks needed for combat operation.

    If we shift our focus to aerospace, it's a totally different story. In this area, US has a huge technological edge in material science, engine technology, stealth, aerodynamics and sensor. However, US has retained its manufacturing capability here, whereas China has a very low-end aerospace industry.

    As a result, we see that China has to rely on Russia for engines until WS-10A can be ramped up. We see that China has to cooperate with the Russians and Europeans on advanced helicopter designs.

    We also see that China has to cooperate with Ukrainians and copy IL-76 in order to get its own military transport. Even after it successfully develops an aircraft, it cannot produce them at the same rate as Boeing or Airbus or Sukhoi. Just look at how much trouble SAC is having in just produce 10+ J-11Bs. At the same time, we see that it simply does not have the work force, technology and expertise to mass produce larger aircraft like Y-8, MA-60 or ARJ-21. I don't really call producing 30 ARJ-21s a year mass production.

    However, you see that China is really attempting to catch up in this area the same way it has in shipbuilding and automaking.

    It is getting an assembly plant for Airbus 320 in Tianjin on top of the assembly plant for ERJ-45 and also trying to develop its own airliner. At the same time, it has ready become a major supplier for both Airbus and Boeing. And in the recent Zhuhai airshow, we heard news that China is buying a Western aviation firm.

    It's been a general Chinese practice to start by producing the simpler parts and then slowly move up the value chain while advancing technologically. Eventually, it will be able to first copy and then eventually design its own machinery. It has already happened in shipbuilding and automaking.

    I think it will also get there in a decade in aerospace. There really isn't much Western companies can do here. China has managed to capitalize on the competition between advanced Western companies for the Chinese market by getting them to transfer technology in certain cases, do joint venture in other cases and source parts in other cases.

    Unless everyone refuses to sell to China, a nation that is devoting this much resources to advance technologically will succeed. And you can also see this happening in other major industries like nuclear power plant, renewable energy and space technology (to a less degree). And I think the best point that Pat made is this one.
    With her immense trade surpluses, China's reserves have surged from $200 billion in 2002 to $2 trillion. Awash in dollars, Beijing now waits patiently, writes McMillion, to cherry-pick the crown jewels of America's industrial empire—"patents, talents, natural resources, brands"—at fire-sale prices in the global crash.
    It's scary that he is mentioning this, because that's exactly what I read China is trying to do in the recent years. It has already bought out Western companies in automaking, CNC machinery for their technology rather than their business value. It's a luxury that most Western countries don't have.

    With a huge account deficit in most G-7 countries, they really don't have the money or the public support to rescue every company that has advanced civilian technology.

    Remember, China is trying to improve its overall technological and manufacturing prowess. Military industry will only be helped by advancement in civilian areas as clearly shown in shipbuilding.

    China’s Aircraft Carrier Hit A Huge Milestone


    November 23, 2012



    Amid the recent political shift within Chinese politics, the effort at modernizing and advancing its military has remained unchanged.
    Minnie Chan of the South China Morning Post reports that to demonstrate this unwavering effort, China today confirmed the first successful carrier landings of its J-15 fighter aboard its first aircraft carrier the Liaoning.

    The landings are the culmination of a years long effort at refitting the Soviet-era carrier, originally christened the Varyag, and are perhaps the most difficult technical carrier maneuvers to accomplish.

    Testing on land-based, carrier shaped decks, has been going on for months, so this recent achievement is causing a bit of celebration. While not the culmination of China’s entry into a functioning carrier military power, the successful landings put it on track to enter that club with gusto when it adds additional carriers to the group.

    The Liaoning will no doubt serve as China’s training carrier, where it cuts its teeth on the technical and tactical challenges facing flattop operations. Rumors have persisted for some time that Beijing was building two indigenous carriers as well, but proof of that has yet to be seen.



    If those rumors turn out to be groundless, it likely won’t be long before China is producing carriers on its own as Chinese shipbuilders are already clamoring for the chance.

    The jet that performed the arrested landing, the J-15, is believed to be a near clone of Russia’s Su-33 carrier-based fighter and was seen sporting Russian AL-31 turbofan engines in 2009. While Russian military officials have played down the J-15′s achievement and said China will no doubt continue seeking to purchase Su-33s, it’s not likely to get any, and the J-15 may prove they don’t need them regardless.

    China and Russia are at a years long impasse over military deals after China ripped the Russian Su-27SK design and cloned it into the Shenyang J-11B, violating all sorts of intellectual property agreements.

    Finally, these developments come as the U.S. announces the USS Nimitz is so dysfunctional it cannot be deployed and is pulling the USS Eisenhower from the Persian Gulf for a quick ref-fit before sending it back to cover for the Nimitz.

    The Nimitz is about 40 years old and discovered a major problem with its propulsion system during per-deployment maneuvers. No word on how long it may be out of rotation, but the Eisenhower will be picking up the slack, at least in the near future.

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    Chairman Of Shenyang Aircraft Corporation Had Heart Attack On Board Liaoning

    November 26, 2012

    The man in charge of overseeing the J-15 carrier-borne fighter, Shenyang Aircraft Corporation Chairman and President Luo Yang, had a heart attack on board aircraft carrier Liaoning on Nov. 25. He passed away at 12:48pm.

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    Polonium is easily obtained in that area of the world, I hear.... as well as other things.... that can cause... you know... heart attacks. Like electricity... or oh...maybe potassium injected.
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    Global naval balance of power shifting with introduction of China’s aircraft carrier

    Peter Apps, Reuters | Nov 28, 2012 4:20 PM ET
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    Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning cruises for a test in the sea. The big question on everybody's mind is how much of a role Washington, with its mighty military and immense diplomatic clout, can play in keeping the Pacific peaceful


    WASHINGTON — China has showcased its first aircraft carrier landings while maintenance woes have reduced the United States to a single carrier in the Gulf, pointing to the beginnings of a subtle shift in the balance of naval power.

    With South China Sea tensions growing, the threat of Middle East conflict still very real and counterterrorism and counter piracy operations also demanding resources, demands on Western navies — and the U.S. in particular — seem ever-growing.

    Even as it emerged that problems with the USS Nimitz would leave Washington unable to maintain its standard two-carrier Gulf force for the first time since 2010, its navy found itself sending new forces to a volatilce eastern Mediterranean.

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    Tough choices loom, with the U.S. military facing years of tighter spending – and the prospect of even starker reductions from sequestration still very real just as European allies seem less able than ever to offer support.

    “None of these developments is overwhelming or shocking in its own right,” says Nikolas Gvosdev, professor of national security studies at the U.S. Naval War College.

    “But they point to a larger trend. The U.S. is going to have to get used to not always having the capability to be everywhere. There are going to be more gaps, and there are going to be other countries that fill those gaps.”



    AP Photo/Xinhua, Zha ChunmingThis undated photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, made available on Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, shows a carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet on China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning.


    With its own domestic energy production potentially freeing the United States from dependence on Middle East oil, some are beginning to ask whether the world’s pre-eminent superpower should bear the cost of being global maritime policeman everywhere.

    “I don’t believe you’re going to see the U.S. pull back from being the only force capable of protecting global sea lanes,” said Gary Roughead, a veteran former admiral who retired last year as Chief of U.S. Naval Operations and now distinguished visiting fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution.

    “But I do think there is going to be a very considerable policy debate — and probably a good one to have.”


    AP Photo/Xinhua, Zha ChunmingIn this undated photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, made available on Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, a carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet takes off from China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning.


    The challenge from an increasingly assertive China is becoming more obvious. Even with double-digit defense budget increases, Beijing’s growing fleet remains well behind that of Washington, both in numbers of major ships and capability.

    But China’s announcement on Sunday of landings on its first operational carrier the Liaoning – a reconditioned Soviet era vessel purchased from Ukraine ostensibly for use as a casino — will unnerve some of its already jumpy neighbours.

    With the exception of a small force in the Indian Ocean to counter piracy, China’s entire naval focus remains on its immediate neighbourhood — the South China Sea, particularly Taiwan, and disputed waters with Japan, Vietnam and others.

    The United States, in contrast, finds itself stretched much thinner as it spreads its forces around the globe. If it is to follow through on its “Asia pivot” and match Beijing in its backyard, it may have to decide which other areas of the world to ignore.


    REUTERS/Xinhua/Zha ChunmingNaval honour guards stand as they wait for a review on China's aircraft carrier "Liaoning" in Dalian, Liaoning province, September 25, 2012.

    COUNTING CARRIERS

    The retirement this month of the USS Enterprise after half a century of service will bring Washington once again down to 10 carriers. With maintenance and training requirements, however, it can often only call on half that number at any given time.

    Keeping one pair in the Gulf and another in Asia, experts say, could prove ultimately unsustainable.

    That does not particularly worry naval officers who have long juggled limited resources around the globe. But it may force U.S. policymakers to moderate the expectations they have of both their own fleet and that of allies.

    Europe’s only “super carrier,” the French “Charles de Gaulle”, has also spent much of this year in refit after last year’s Libya campaign. Italy and Spain have much smaller carriers, while one-time naval superpower Britain has none after scrapping its three vessels as part of major defense cuts.


    REUTERS/StringerA general view shows navy soldiers standing on China's first aircraft carrier "Liaoning" as it is berthed in a port in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning province, September 25, 2012.


    Two larger British carriers, the “Queen Elizabeth” and “Prince of Wales,” will enter service towards the end of the decade.

    Having spent the last decade experimenting with landing aircraft on a ground-based mockup of a carrier flight deck, Beijing is clearly keen to make up for lost time. Several domestically built carriers are now under construction.

    “The balance is clearly moving in the direction of emerging economies,” says Christian le Mierre, naval analyst at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

    “There is a lot of focus on the Chinese carrier but people tend to forget India will also be operating three carriers within a decade.”

    Aircraft carriers alone do not define the strength of navies, he said. The U.S. Navy also has an unmatched number of amphibious warfare ships and other vessels from which you can deploy helicopters, vertical takeoff aircraft and drones as well as Marines and special forces.

    With carriers in short supply, such ships have been become increasingly important.

    Several were sent into the eastern Mediterranean last week.

    Washington can also use a variety of land bases, such as a base in Djibouti from which it is widely believed to have launched special force operations into Somalia and perhaps elsewhere. Submarines can hit targets well inland with missiles.

    Even there, however, China is believed to be starting to close the gap. Earlier this month, it announced it would be sending nuclear ballistic missile-carrying submarines to sea for the first time.


    AFP PHOTO / US NAVY / Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Daniel MesheIn this image obtained from the US Navy, the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise sails in the Strait of Gibraltar on October 23, 2012. Enterprise is returning to its home base in Norfolk, Virginia to be decommissioned on December 1, 2012. As the first nuclear aircraft carrier, Enterprise entered service on November 25, 1961.

    RE-EXAMINING PRIORITIES

    For now, the U.S. Navy’s approach to the world remains broadly unchanged. Where there is trouble, they will send additional forces moved from areas they hope will remain calmer.

    Having kept at least one aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean throughout most of the Cold War and Balkan conflicts of the 1990s, in recent years the United States had quietly pulled back.

    That, however, is now changing as the increasingly chaotic aftermath of the “Arab Spring” has brought instability to Egypt, conflict to Libya and Syria, Al Qaeda militancy to Mali, and further complicated this month’s conflict in Gaza.

    Earlier this year, Washington announced it would move four destroyers to the Spanish port of Rota and analysts expect a heightened presence elsewhere in the region – although a permanent carrier presence is seen as simply unachievable.

    The military planning of all other major powers, experts say, almost invariably assumes the United States will continue that global approach. Even potential foes such as China are effectively dependent on U.S. naval power keeping global trade routes open.

    In reality, however, other states may have to step up more quickly than they ever expected.

    The global response to Somali piracy — in which the European Union, NATO, China, India Japan and others sent separate forces informally organized through meetings and an Internet chat room — might be a clue to the future. Shipowners welcomed the naval deployments, but have increasingly taken matters into their own hands by hiring armed guards.

    “The future is going to be a lot more ad hoc coalitions,” says Gvosdev at the U.S. Naval War College. “Others may have to take up the slack much more than they had expected.”

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    Funny, every expert I've heard so far has stated clearly they are more than a decade away from "catching up" to any degree that would put them at odds with the US.

    In fact, I have it on... high authority.... that this is a facade. Maybe a fake out for something else going on. I suspect that authority has a lot more information on the subject that Reuters has or will ever know.
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    Fighter Jet Plagiarism Allegations 'Offensive'

    November 30, 2012

    China on Thursday dismissed claims that its carrier-based fighter jets plagiarized foreign models and would make Beijing more assertive in tackling maritime disputes with neighbors.

    It is at least unprofessional, if not an intentional attack, to claim China copied foreign aircraft carrier technology through a simple comparison since the laws for military development are objective, and the principles of building military equipment, the command and safeguard methods are similar, Ministry of National Defense spokesman Geng Yansheng said at a regular news conference.

    Geng made the remarks in response to reports that the carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet, which made its debut in a landing and take-off exercise on China's first aircraft carrier the Liaoning on Saturday, is a Chinese adaptation of the naval version of Russia's Su-33.

    "China adheres to self-dependent scientific innovation. We have sufficient know-how and capability to build and develop our own aircraft carrier," Geng said.

    It is true that China used to rely heavily on imported Russian military equipment to modernize its troops, but people should not use that as an excuse to criticize Chinese people who have made tough endeavors and even sacrifices in developing the J-15's engine, fire-control system, electronics system and other key components, said the Xinhua News Agency.

    Guo Xiaobing, deputy chief of the Institute of Security and Arms Control Studies under the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, said the "crime of plagiarism" is a severe insult to Chinese researchers including Luo Yang, head of the production phase of the J-15 who died on Sunday of a heart attack during the carrier's voyage return to base after the planes' landing exercise.

    Geng said the J-15, which is still conducting related experiments and training, would equip the army in accordance with the military's schedule. Experts said it will be a while before the Liaoning can be put into operation.

    But its presence in the Asia-Pacific region and Beijing's newly proposed "maritime power" strategy have been detected as threats by Washington and its Asian allies. Tokyo and Manila were especially concerned amid their territorial disputes with Beijing over the Diaoyu Islands and the South China Sea.

    US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said earlier that the United States was continuing to carefully monitor Chinese military developments. She urged Beijing to be as transparent as possible about its military capabilities and intentions and to use military power, including the aircraft carrier, in a way that is conducive for regional peace and stability.

    "China is always open to military transparency and frankly speaking, the J-15 experiment is quite transparent," said Geng, adding that the Chinese media has had abundant and timely coverage and commentary about the plane since Sunday.

    Wu Shengli, China's navy chief on Tuesday also briefed the US secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus on the J-15 and test trials of the Liaoning.

    Pan Zheng, a scholar on US military studies with the People's Liberation Army National Defense University, said the US should also ask itself how transparent it has been to China.

    Washington on Monday released two pictures of a US-Japan joint drill that concluded on Nov 16. The closed-door exercise is one of many that have taken place between the two countries this year. Geng said China opposes parties that intentionally highlight military agendas and frequently flare up regional tensions.

    China's development of the aircraft carrier is not targeted at any third party or part of an arms race, Geng said.

    Its development is based on national security and military construction needs and China's ability to invest in such a project, Geng said.

    "We hope related parties view China's aircraft carrier construction in an objective and rational way," he added.

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    (Source: China Military Online) 2012-11-07




    Wu Xiaoguang, deputy chief designer of the national aircraft carrier project of the 701 Research Institute of the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation and also a representative attending the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, said in a interview on the afternoon of November 6, 2012 that we should attach more importance to the ocean and ensure legitimate maritime rights and interests in the future by ourselves.

    When referring to the aircraft carrier construction that has attracted nation-wide attention, Wu Xiaoguang, who has dedicated himself to the construction of national defense equipment for 30 years, told the reporters, “China’s perception of interest demands has a bearing on the number of aircraft carriers.

    How many aircraft carriers China should have depends on its needs. What I can tell you is that the ‘Liaoning Ship’ is just a beginning.”

    By Nan Chen, Li Pengxiang and Liu Jie

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    Methinks thou doth protest too much.
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    CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY
    The Washington Times 10/28/99 Bob Smith "…..Adm. Prueher's pro-China tilt while at CINCPAC reflects at best naivete and at worst a dangerous hubris that personal interactions can convert the Chinese from adversaries into friends.

    He has taken Chinese military officials to tour a U.S. nuclear submarine in Honolulu and to the Top Gun school in California. (These actions would now be prohibited by the amendment I attached to the Defense Authorization bill restricting military-to-military contacts between the U.S. Armed Forces and the PLA (Chinese Peoples Liberation Army). My restrictions were intended to prevent contacts that create a national security risk due to an inappropriate exposure.

    He allegedly has violated the six assurances that defined Taiwan policy under Presidents Reagan and Bush, and which remain in force under President Clinton, making unauthorized efforts last fall to persuade the Taiwanese military to start talks with the PLA.

    Apparently the details are in a classified cable that at least one congressional office is seeking to obtain.

    Adm. Prueher allegedly ordered deletion of the section of the classified U.S. plan for the defense of Taiwan dealing with strategic matters, which has upset STRATCOM (Strategic Command) and riled the Air Force, causing them to object to Adm. Prueher's actions. The details of this also are classified….."
    China holds Top Gun air war to choose its best fighter pilots

    China News.Net Thursday 13th December, 2012




    China has organised a 10-day air war competition in which over a hundred ace fighter pilots were pitted against each other at speeds of 1,800 km per hour and had to take the right decision in barely 10 seconds.

    The second People's Liberation Army (PLA) Air Force "Golden Helmet" award took place after the 10-day air war competition came to an end Nov 29. Eleven air force pilots stood out from the 108 elite and won the award, reported People's Daily.

    Jiang Jiayi, one of winners of the first "Golden Helmet" award and chief of a squadron of Chengdu Military Area Command, won the award again and became the first man winning the "Golden Helmet" award twice.

    This year's competition also saw the fight between different types of aircraft, the safety distance between two aircraft in unrestricted air combat was reduced by 50 meters, and "face-to-face" peer reviews of pilots' performances were added.

    "We cannot win continuous victories without advanced guiding theories," Jiang was quoted as saying.

    Jiang said that pilots rely on weapons to win beyond visual range combat and on their techniques to win close combat.

    "When two fighter planes are only over 10 km away from each other, and the relative speed is 1,800 km per hour or 1,900 km per hour, the pilots only have slightly more than 10 seconds to respond," he added.

    Whether the pilots can make right responses in 10 seconds determines the outcome of the combat.

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    J-31 stealth fighter may be deployed to PLA aircraft carriers


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    A Chinese J-31 stealth fighter (Internet photo)

    China's fifth-generation J-31 stealth fighter has vertical takeoff and landing capabilities, US-based magazine Jane's Defense Weekly reported on Dec. 5.

    Before the J-31's first test flight, the aircraft's designer Shenyang Aircraft Corporation demonstrated a remote controlled airplane with similar vertical takeoff and landing capabilities, foreshadowing what was to come. Yet this important event was overlooked by most observers as merely a demonstration demonstration of a model aircraft.

    When images of an airborne J-31 were released military watchers were left flat-footed as they realized touted advancements in China's military prowess were not exaggerated as they had assumed. Jane's Defense Weekly said the model aircraft demonstration had actually revealed several of the J-31's potential capabilities.

    Working from officially published images, the magazine remarked the Chinese engineers had developed the fighter taking cues from the American F-35 and Russian Yak-141 designs. Though the appearance of the J-31 is closer to the F-35, its engine design is more akin to the Russian Yak-141. Rumors suggest the Russian Yakovlev Aircraft Corporation sold the Yak-141 engine to China sometime early last decade. Through acquiring the Russian technology, Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group developed the J-20, the country's first stealth fighter, while Shenyang Aircraft Corporation developed the J-31.

    While the larger J-20 is reckoned to be geared toward ground attack missions, the J-31 will likely serve as its cover. Other analysts suggest the J-31 may begin service aboard PLA Navy aircraft carriers; if not the Liaoning, its first, then aboard subsequent vessels developed domestically. A report from Moscow's Military-Industrial Courier said funding for the development of the J-31 was provided by the PLA Navy directly. Following the J-15 fighter, which just completed landing and takeoff exercises aboard the Liaoning, the J-31 may be its successor. In any event, any J-31 fighters entering service PLA Navy service is still some way off.

    The Military-Industrial Courier said that the PLA was more comfortable with demonstrating a model of the J-31 than the J-20 during the Zhuhai Airshow in November. Jane's Defense Weekly commented that competition between the two Chinese aerospace manufacturers will encourage development in the industry.

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    China To Send First Aircraft Carrier On High Seas Voyage

    April 19, 2013

    China will send its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, on a voyage on the high seas for the first time within a year, the state-run news agency Xinhua said on Friday.

    The Liaoning, purchased used from Ukraine and refurbished in China, has conducted more than 100 exercises and experiments since it was commissioned last year, Xinhua said.

    Although considered decades behind U.S. technology, the Liaoning represents the Chinese navy's blue-water ambitions and has been the focus of a campaign to stir patriotism.

    It has also been the most visible of China's efforts for more than a year to build up military hardware, including test flying two prototype versions of stealth fighter jets -- one of which is believed capable on landing on aircraft carriers.

    Last year, China also unveiled its first attack helicopter and a range of drone aircraft it hopes to export.

    In November a U.S. government commission said it believed that within two years, Chinese submarines would be capable of deploying nuclear weapons.

    China is alone among the original nuclear weapons states to be expanding its nuclear forces, according to the report by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

    Xinhua did not say where the Liaoning would go or for how long. The carrier has been conducting training maneuvers since it arrived at its east coast home port of Qingdao in February.

    "To date, all the tests have been going smoothly, and the Qingdao home port has been proven capable of berthing and supporting the carrier", Xinhua said.

    "It will undergo further tests, including ocean-going trials and flight-landing exercises under the schedule."

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