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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterle Matteo View Post
    If i understood correctly:

    CIA predicted future events and what???

    They let them happen!!!

    What is it the CIA for???

    Is it a "Predictions Agency" only???


    The Central Intelligence Agency was created in 1947 with the signing of the National Security Act by President Harry S. Truman. The act also created a Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) to serve as head of the United States intelligence community; act as the principal adviser to the President for intelligence matters related to the national security; and serve as head of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 amended the National Security Act to provide for a Director of National Intelligence who would assume some of the roles formerly fulfilled by the DCI, with a separate Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.


    David H. Petraeus became Director of the Central Intelligence Agency on September 6, 2011.


    The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency serves as the head of the Central Intelligence Agency and reports to the Director of National Intelligence. The CIA director's responsibilities include:

    • Collecting intelligence through human sources and by other appropriate means, except that he shall have no police, subpoena, or law enforcement powers or internal security functions;
    • Correlating and evaluating intelligence related to the national security and providing appropriate dissemination of such intelligence;
    • Providing overall direction for and coordination of the collection of national intelligence outside the United States through human sources by elements of the Intelligence Community authorized to undertake such collection and, in coordination with other departments, agencies, or elements of the United States Government which are authorized to undertake such collection, ensuring that the most effective use is made of resources and that appropriate account is taken of the risks to the United States and those involved in such collection; and
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    To accomplish its mission, the CIA engages in research, development, and deployment of high-leverage technology for intelligence purposes. As a separate agency, CIA serves as an independent source of analysis on topics of concern and also works closely with the other organizations in the Intelligence Community to ensure that the intelligence consumer—whether Washington policymaker or battlefield commander—receives the best intelligence possible.


    As changing global realities have reordered the national security agenda, CIA has met these challenges by:

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    By emphasizing adaptability in its approach to intelligence collection, the CIA can tailor its support to key intelligence consumers and help them meet their needs as they face the issues of the post-Cold War World.
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    Default Re: Is Tunisia, Egypt, Morocco and Libya Facing Real Unrest or a Manufactured Crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peterle Matteo View Post
    If i understood correctly:

    CIA predicted future events and what???

    They let them happen!!!

    What is it the CIA for???

    Is it a "Predictions Agency" only???



    Let's see...this document was produced in 2000, during the Clinton Administration.

    Who has been calling the shots on US foreign policy since the roll out of the Arab Spring?


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    Clinton Admits We Are Now Reaching Out to the Muslim Brotherhood





    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the U.S. isn’t adopting a new policy. She says the administration wants to engage all Egyptian groups as long as they espouse nonviolence.

    “We believe, given the changing political landscape in Egypt, that it is in the interests of the United States to engage with all parties that are peaceful, and committed to non-violence, that intend to compete for the parliament and the presidency,” Clinton told reporters at a news conference.

    “Now in any of those contacts, prior or future, we will continue to emphasize the importance of and support for democratic principles and especially a commitment to non-violence, respect for minority rights, and the full inclusion of women in any democracy.”

    Clinton says the hardline group also must respect minority rights and the full inclusion of women in the political sphere.

    The Brotherhood favors a regime guided by Islamic Sharia law and was outlawed under former strongman Hosni Mubarak. It also reportedly birthed the major terrorist group, Hamas.

    Israel is wary of any engagement with the Muslim Brotherhood because of the hostility some of its members have expressed toward the Jewish state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterle Matteo View Post
    Next step...

    Come on Vector 7!

    Say:"Clinton planned the twin tower attak with his muslims friends!

    Because:The Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated both the Clinton and Obama Administrations!"

    You are sooooo close.
    Sorry Peterle, I never said 911 was an inside job.

    YOU implied this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peterle Matteo View Post
    Frankly it sounds too much "Cospiracy" to me.

    This is no conspiracy, this Administration is working with the Muslim Brotherhood.

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    Obama State Department Training Islamic Parties In Egypt For Upcoming Elections…




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    (The Cable) — U.S. assistance to Egypt is helping political parties of all ideologies prepare for the upcoming elections — even Islamic parties that may have anti-Western agendas.

    “We don’t do party support. What we do is party training. . . . And we do it to whoever comes, “William Taylor, the State Department’s director of its new office for Middle East Transitions, said in a briefing with reporters today. “Sometimes, Islamist parties show up, sometimes they don’t. But it has been provided on a nonpartisan basis, not to individual parties.”

    The programs, contracted through the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs (NDI) and the International Republican Institute (IRI), include helping political parties in Egypt conduct polling, provide constituent services, and prepare for election season. NDI’s chairwoman is former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. IRI’s chairman is Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)

    Taylor said that none of the U.S. funding that has gone to election preparation is coordinated or vetted through the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), which assumed power after the overthrow of former President Hosni Mubarak.
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    Clinton: U.S. Will Work with Arab Spring’s Islamist Parties





    WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton declared Monday that the Obama administration would work with ascendant Islamist parties of the Muslim world, answering one of the central U.S. policy questions resulting from the Arab Spring.

    Delivering an address at the National Democratic Institute, Clinton offered a forthright embrace of the democratic changes enveloping North Africa and the Middle East at a time when the euphoria of the successful revolutions from Egypt to Libya is giving way to the hard and unprecedented work of creating stable democracies.



    After decades of partnering dictators throughout the region, her message was that the U.S. would approach the new political landscape with an open mind and the understanding that long-term support for democracy trumps any short-term advantages through alliances with authoritarian regimes.

    While she reached out to the religious-rooted parties expected to gain power in Egypt, Tunisia and elsewhere, she said nothing about changing U.S. policies toward Hezbollah and Hamas, which have performed well in Lebanese and Palestinian elections but are considered foreign terrorist organizations by the United States.

    “For years, dictators told their people they had to accept the autocrats they knew to avoid the extremists they feared,” Clinton told an audience that included former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. “Too often, we accepted that narrative ourselves.”

    After almost a year of protests and crackdowns, armed rebellion and civil war, the Arab world’s upheaval has left a jumbled mosaic of liberals and Islamists, military rulers and loose coalitions of reformers. No country appears unalterably on a path toward democratic governance, and for the people of the region and the United States the stakes of long-term instability are high.

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    I wish that bitch would stick that pen in her eye.
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    Muslim Brotherhood Takes Elections by Storm

    Islamist parties are expected to control Cairo's parliament by the spring with the Muslim Brotherhood projected to be in the driver's seat.
    By Gavriel Queenann First Publish: 12/1/2011, 7:19 PM


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    Judges overseeing the vote count in Egypt's parliamentary elections say Islamist parties have won a majority of the contested seats in the first round. The judges spoke on condition of anonymity because official results are expected to be released later Thursday.

    They say the Muslim Brotherhood could take 45 percent of the seats up for grabs. The liberal Egyptian bloc coalition and the ultra-fundamentalist Nour party are competing for second place.

    Together, Islamist parties are expected to control a majority of parliamentary seats by March. This week's vote was the first of six stages of parliamentary elections that will last until then.

    Continued success by Islamists will allow them to give Cairo's government and constitution a decidedly Islamist character. It could also lead Cairo to shift away from the West towards the Iranian axis.

    It will also diminish the influence of Cairo’s caretaker junta, which has sought to maintain the Mubarak-era status quo and keep US foreign aid dollars – running into the billions per annum – flowing.

    Analysts say Islamists may also seek to annul the 1979 Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty, which could prompt Israel to seize the Sinai Peninsula for the fourth time in its history to create a strategic buffer zone.

    After reaching the Suez Canal in 1967 and controlling the Sinai for twelve years,, Israel ceded Sinai to Egypt under the 1979 treaty on condition it remains demilitarized.

    The Muslim Brotherhood, which birthed the virulently anti-Israel Hamas terror militia, might also seek to effectively annex Gaza. Should Hamas be triumphant in future PA elections, they would also gain a foothold in Judea and Samaria.

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    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood uses Palestinian Hamas as channel to Tehran

    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report February 1, 2012, 10:13 PM (GMT+02:00) Tags:


    Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal and Jordan's King Abdullah



    As one Palestinian Hamas leader, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, heads to Tehran, the Hamas politburo in Damascus, contrary to reports in the West of a cutoff, firmly maintains his ties with the Assad regime, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards operating in the Syrian capital and Beirut as well as with Hizballah, debkafile's Israeli and Western military sources report.

    debkafile's intelligence sources also stress there is no sign of Hamas leaders seeking to break their ties with Iran, which has for years supplied them with funds and weapons.

    Indeed, the forthcoming Haniyeh visit to Tehran is welcomed by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas's parent organization, as the lock for opening a secret back channel through which the Brotherhood is keen to mend its fences with the Iranian leadership.

    Some Hamas politburo officials have indeed left Damascus, but its operations and intelligence command centers remain in situ. debkafile's Middle East sources report that Meshaal for the past two years has resided in the Qatari capital of Doha, and his wife and children live in Amman, Jordan; his deputy, Musa Abu Marzouk, moved this year with his family from Damascus to Cairo; Mohammad Nazal, Hamas political bureau secretary, relocated with family to Jordan; and Imad al-Alami, who commanded Hamas cells in Lebanon and moved in the past six months to Doha.

    The rest of the staff hold down the Hamas fort in the Syrian capital under the command of intelligence chief Izat Rishak who is in regular touch with the various Syrian intelligence and security commands in Damascus and Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers.

    Izak has risen to the status of Hamas strongman, according to our sources, and the recognized superior commander of the Gazan military wing Ezz e-din al-Qassam and its chief Muhammad Jabary.

    Some Western and Israeli circles have presented the Hamas as bolting from its Damascus headquarters as evidence that the Palestinian fundamentalists have turned their backs on the radical Iranian-Sytrian-Hizballah bloc and opted to throw in their lot with the pro-Western moderates of the Arab world. Speculation has been rife that Meshaal, 55, who was said to have offered to resign the politburo post after 14 years, was about to line up with the Palestinian Authority Chairman, Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas and his tactic of declaring opposition to terrorism and advocacy of "popular resistance" to Israel.

    This, according to our sources, is far from the true state of affairs.

    Our Middle East sources cite the conditions under which Meshaal was allowed to officially visit Amman Sunday, Jan. 29 for the first time since King Abdullah's father Hussein threw him out of the kingdom in 1999.

    Abdullah II, who works closely with Saudi and Qatari intelligence, refused to receive the Hamas leader and his delegation as an independent delegation. They were only admitted as part of the entourage of Qatari Crown Prince Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani. The Hamas group was forced to wait outside until the king and the Qatari prince had finished their conversation and only then were invited to enter the palace guest chamber.

    Over the lunch the Jordanian monarch held for his guests, the Qatari prince and entourage sat at the top table with the king, while the Hamas officials were relegated to a smaller side table.

    The king made it clear that Meshaal was only invited to Amman after signing a Palestinian unity accord with Mahmoud Abbas in Cairo last month.

    His next visit was contingent on his upholding it. On no account would the Jordanian king hear of Hamas opening offices in Jordan or carrying out any diplomatic or military business from the kingdom – certainly not among West Bank Palestinians.

    The Hamas leader promised to refrain from activity among Jordan's Palestinian community.

    Our Middle East sources say that the Jordanian monarch was briefed by Riyadh and Doha before receiving Meshaal & Co. According to their intelligence, Meshaal and his three colleagues ' removal from Damascus had nothing to do with any wish to distance their organization from the beleaguered Assad regime. They received orders from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to relocate outside the Syrian capital for three reasons:

    1. The Hamas politburo could not afford to be seen in bed with Assad while his regime was hounding the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood to extinction.

    2. The Hamas politburo was ordered to get ready to seize control of the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah – as the terrorist group did in Gaza - as part of the Muslim Brotherhood's strategy for attaining rule in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt and soon Syria.

    3. The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood's relations with Tehran and Damascus are at a low point but need not always stay that way.

    Maintaining the ties between the Palestinian Hamas and Iran gives the Brotherhood a useful back channel for mending relations. Haniyeh is travelling to Tehran with the Egyptian Brotherhood's blessing.

    Therefore, the claim that Khaled Meshaal has turned moderate and away from extremist Iran and Syria has no foundation in fact.

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    Obama Wants Billion-Dollar Egypt Bailout for the Muslim Brotherhood

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    The Obama administration has decided to provide about $1 billion in debt relief for Egypt, a senior official said Saturday, in the boldest U.S. effort yet to shore up a key Middle East ally as it attempts a democratic transition.

    The aid would be part of a major economic aid package that also includes trade and investment incentives, officials said. It is intended to help stabilize Egypt after demonstrations forced out longtime President Hosni Mubarak on Feb. 11.
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    Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood Bailout Plan

    by Ulsterman in History, May 19, 2011

    As a longtime radical and anti-American Muslim group prepares to make significant gains in the power structure of the post-revolution Egyptian government, Barack Obama promises to forgive Egypt one billion in debt owed to the United States.



    Despite repeated proof of the radicalized nature of the Muslim Brotherhood, an organization that has advocated the destruction of Israel, the death of homosexuals, a “settlement jihad” against America, as well as insisting women remain as second class citizens, U.S. President Barack Obama intends to pledge full support of the newly forming Egyptian government, going so far as to promise forgiving some 1 billion dollars in debt the Muslim nation currently owes the United States taxpayers.

    The gesture by Obama is what his administration and certain left-leaning media figures are describing as part of the “Arab Spring” – the hopeful spreading of democracy throughout the Middle East. While this version being perpetrated by the Obama White House appears in stark contrast to the reality of an Egyptian nation now facing a significant shift toward a more radicalized Muslim government, President Obama remains intent on ignoring such a reality in favor of the warm and fuzzy scripted version to be placed inside his ever-present teleprompter. To say nothing of the fact that the United States has already given billions in free aid to the Egyptian government in past years, only to see that former government toppled and now replaced by one dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood – the very same organization whose leadership stated, “Jihad is our way.”
    Obama proposes $800 million in aid for "Arab Spring"

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    Copies of President Obama's Fiscal Year 2013 budget are seen stacked on the floor of the House Budget Committee room on Capitol Hill in Washington February 13, 2012.
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    By Susan Cornwell
    WASHINGTON | Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:39pm EST

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House announced plans on Monday to help "Arab Spring" countries swept by revolutions with more than $800 million in economic aid, while maintaining U.S. military aid to Egypt.

    In his annual budget message to Congress, President Barack Obama asked that military aid to Egypt be kept at the level of recent years -- $1.3 billion -- despite a crisis triggered by an Egyptian probe targeting American democracy activists.

    The proposals are part of Obama's budget request for fiscal year 2013, which begins October 1. His requests need the approval of Congress, where some lawmakers want to cut overseas spending to address U.S. budget shortfalls and are particularly angry at Egypt.

    Obama proposed $51.6 billion in funding for the U.S. State Department and foreign aid overall, when $8.2 billion in assistance to war zones is included. The "core budget" for the category would increase by 1.6 percent, officials said.

    Most of the economic aid for the Arab Spring countries -- $770 million -- would go to establish a new "Middle East and North Africa Incentive Fund," the president said in his budget plan.

    Analysts said it was difficult to tell how much of the proposal was actually new money.

    "As presented it's very difficult to determine if the Arab spring fund is new wine in new bottles or old wine in new bottles," said John Norris, a former U.S. foreign aid worker now at the Center for American Progress.

    The Middle East and North Africa Incentive fund "will provide incentives for long-term economic, political, and trade reforms to countries in transition -- and to countries prepared to make reforms proactively," the White House budget document said.

    The proposal said this approach "expands our bilateral economic support in countries such as Tunisia and Yemen, where transitions are already underway."

    It would also build on other programs for the area, including up to $2 billion in regional Overseas Private Investment Corporation financing, up to $1 billion in debt swaps for Egypt, and approximately $500 million in existing funds re-allocated to respond to the region last year, the budget document said.

    It did not say how the Middle East and North Africa Incentive Fund would be divided between countries, or give any other details of the plan.

    Egypt has long been among the top recipients of U.S. aid, getting about $1.6 billion annually, mostly in military assistance. In fiscal 2012, $250 million of aid approved for Egypt was economic; $1.3 billion was military and there was a $60 million "enterprise fund" approved by Congress.

    No U.S. assistance is moving to Egypt at the moment, U.S. lawmakers and their aides said last week. Some legislators favor cutting off aid to Egypt entirely if it does not drop accusations against American democracy activists and lift a travel ban on them.

    Obama continued the practice of putting proposed foreign assistance for war zones in a separate account. This account, known as the "Overseas Contingency Operations," includes $8.2 billion for the State Department and foreign aid.

    It includes $3.3 billion for Afghanistan, $1 billion for Pakistan, and $4 billion for Iraq, where U.S. troops have left the country but the State Department has picked up some of their functions such as police training.
    (Editing by Christopher Wilson)

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    Syrian Christians Fear Genocide if al-Assad Falls to Muslim Extremists
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    Catholic bishops are warning that if the Bashar al-Assad (left) regime in Syria falls to Islamists, there may well be a mass genocide of Christians, such as seen in Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein. Though Christians cannot support the brutality of the Assad dictatorship, few believe that rule by Muslim extremists will be any better.

    Syria — home to Damascus, one of the most important cities of the ancient world and of special religious significance to Christians — has long had a tolerant attitude toward religious minorities. Syria's Christians — estimated to be about 10 percent of the population, or 2.5 million — cherish this tradition of non-religious government. The Ba'athist Party of Syria had a counterpart in the Ba'athist Party of Iraq, whose last leader was Saddam Hussein. The party was actually founded by Michael Aflaq, a Syrian Christian, and although there are many objectionable features to its politics (it is, for example, overtly socialist), people of all faiths were able to live in relative safety even in a Syria in which the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants are Muslims.

    Ignatius Joseph III, Patriarch of the Syrian Catholic Church, explained the plight of the Syrian Christians:

    The Christians in Syria face a dilemma. They are morally obligated to support the protestors, but if Assad falls, sectarian strife could ravage the country and Islamic terrorists will target Christians as they have in Iraq and Egypt. If they support Assad and he falls they could be targets for revenge. That is why the Christian community in Syria is largely silent, not knowing what to do.

    Gwendolyn Cates, a filmmaker who has produced documentaries on religious minorities in the Middle East, agrees that Assad's is “a very repressive regime,” but also notes that Syria has been open to religious refugees who flooded the country after the rise of the Islamic regime in Iraq. She has interviewed Christians who have left Syria, and relates that the situation of those still in the country is grim.

    David Wood, a Christian activist who focuses on radical Islam, notes:

    Assad is brutal, but he’s equally brutal towards everyone, Muslim and non-Muslim. If Islamists take over the country, and they most certainly will if the secular regime falls, they will be every bit as brutal as Assad, but they will not treat people equally. Christians will be in quite a bit of trouble.

    A church leader in Syria who fears to make his identity known, spoke of the peril to Christians:

    Look at what happened in Egypt and Iraq. Christians want to peacefully go out and ask for certain changes, but Islamist groups are sneaking in with their goal, which is not to make Syria better but to take over the country with their agenda.

    Christians will be the first to pay if this happens.

    Others have predicted the dangerous position for the few Christians who might remain if there is a general exodus of Christians. The more who flee, the smaller the Christian vote in any democratic process as well as the smaller the Christian presence in community life, where many of the Christians in Syria have deep and ancient roots in their homeland.

    Disturbingly, the U.S. government has been vocally supporting “democratic movements” in Syria, as it has in Egypt and Libya.

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    Desecrated: The Shocking Video Of Churchill's Desert Rats' Graves Being Smashed To Rubble... By The Libyans We Helped Liberate
    March 4, 2012

    A year ago they begged for Britain’s help when Colonel Gaddafi’s tanks encircled their city, threatening annihilation.

    Now former Libyan rebels in Benghazi – liberated with the aid of the RAF last March – have systematically desecrated the graves of more than 150 British servicemen killed in North Africa 70 years ago.

    Headstones at the Benghazi War Cemetery have been torn down and crucifixes smashed with hammers by a mob of extremists, some carrying guns and dressed in combat fatigues.


    Desecrated: The headstones commemorating the deaths of Allied servicemen, who fought in the Western Desert campaigns between 1942 to 1943, lay smashed on the ground

    More than 1,000 soldiers and airmen who lost their lives in the desert wars of Montgomery and Rommel are buried at the site in Eastern Libya.

    Many were members of the famed 7th Armoured Division, known as the Desert Rats, who played a crucial role in the see-saw battle for control of Libya and Egypt between 1941 and 1943.

    Graves of RAF pilots were among those shattered by the thugs. It was their job to fly bombing raids – just as the RAF did last year – to assist Lieutenant General Montgomery’s Eighth Army and support commandos clearing routes for tanks.

    Sickeningly, the attack, which was carried out over two days last week and appeared highly organised, was filmed by one of the men involved and posted on the internet.

    As they rampage among the graves, members of the mob are heard to repeatedly say of the dead servicemen: ‘They are dogs, they are dogs.’


    Senseless: A man kicks down headstones of soldiers during the rampage that was filmed and posted online

    The violence was thought to be retaliation, in part, for the burning of the Koran by US soldiers in Afghanistan last month.

    Footage shows the mob methodically kicking down grave after grave. Some are then smashed with hammers. ‘Destroy that cross, they are dogs,’ cries one hooded rebel.

    Another voice is heard saying: ‘We begin with this one then we’ll take care of that other one. We won’t leave any left.’

    A few seconds later another extremist says: ‘This tomb has a cross on it – a disbeliever.’

    As they discover a Jewish grave bearing the Star of David, one of the men says: ‘Look at what it says on it. There is even Israeli writing . . . in Hebrew.’

    And in one of the most disturbing sequences, one protester attaches a ladder to the Cross of Remembrance next to the cemetery. He climbs up it and begins hacking at the memorial with a hammer. Then he shouts: ‘Watch out young people. It’s going to fall.’ The cross is then smashed off.


    Sacrifice: Some 1,214 graves are marked in Benghazi War Cemetery

    Relatives of those buried at the cemetery, which is maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, last night reacted with disgust. The desecration was also condemned by Montgomery’s grandson Henry Montgomery, who called it ‘very sad’.

    Among the heroes buried at Benghazi is Geoffrey Keyes, who was the youngest lieutenant colonel in the British Army when he was killed at the age of 24 during Operation Flipper, a daring mission 250 miles behind enemy lines.

    He was shot in a raid on what was believed to be Rommel’s headquarters in Sidi Rafa, Libya, in November 1941 and was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross for ‘magnificent leadership and outstanding gallantry . . . and supreme self-sacrifice’.

    It was not clear last night if his headstone was among those destroyed.

    But one of the smashed headstones records the death of the Reverend Geoffrey Bond, Chaplain to the Forces, who was 30 when he was killed on March 21, 1941, near Benghazi. His nephew, Geoffrey Bell, said last night: ‘This is terrible news. Damn those bloody Libyans.’

    Former diplomat Edward Chaplin, who heads the War Graves Commission, said: ‘Clearly it’s a terrible thing to have happened.

    ‘It’s shocking that attacks of this nature should be carried out against a cemetery. We take very seriously the preservation of these memorials to those who have given their lives in wars.’

    Mustafa Abdul Jalil, head of state in Libya’s caretaker government, condemned the attacks as ‘unethical, irresponsible and criminal’.

    He said the Libyan government ‘severely denounces such shameful acts and vows to find and prosecute the perpetrators’.

    There are 1,214 Commonwealth servicemen of the Second World War buried or commemorated at the Benghazi War Cemetery.

    Of the 1,051 identified graves, 851 are British. It also contains graves of Australian, New Zealand, South African and Indian servicemen.


    Religious hate: Fanatics attack a Jewish headstone

    One shattered headstone, broken into a dozen pieces, records the death of a Canadian pilot, M. P. Northmore, who was killed in October 1943.

    The cemetery is the last resting place for several soldiers from one of Britain’s oldest regiments, the King’s Royal Rifle Corps, founded in 1775. Four of the regiment’s battalions took part in the North Africa campaign and one of its members, Rifleman John Beeley, was awarded the Victoria Cross after being killed while storming a German machine-gun post at the battle of Sidi Rezegh in November 1941.

    Richard Frost, secretary of the regiment association, said: ‘Our 1,500 surviving members will find it difficult to cope with what has happened. All riflemen, regardless of their age or where they served, will be disgusted by these scenes.’


    Wrecked: Extremists fetch a ladder to smash away at the war memorial next to the cemetery


    Fury: Extremists hack away at the monunent


    Disrespect: A man smashes the cross with a hammer


    Sad: A remnant of the cross lies smashed on the floor


    Shattered: The memorial after it was attacked by the mob

    Pamela Thornton-Bassett, whose father, Flight Lieutenant Frank Thornton-Bassett, is buried at Benghazi, said she was ‘greatly saddened’ by the attack.

    The RAF officer was 40 when he died in an aircraft crash near the city on February 3, 1943.

    His daughter, who lives in Halesowen in the West Midlands, said: ‘He was attached to a unit that set up broadcasting facilities and was sent out to Cairo when Churchill was there to make an important speech. On the way back to Benghazi, where he was based, my father’s plane was brought down in the desert by a mechanical fault. The pilot was killed outright and one of the crew walked away. My father was badly injured and survived for a week.

    ‘I was concerned about what would happen to the cemetery all the time Gaddafi was in power. I never visited because I was put off by the thought of him running the country. Yet now this happens after his departure.’

    A Commonwealth War Graves Commission spokesman promised that the cemetery would be restored ‘to a standard befitting the sacrifice of those commemorated at Benghazi’. But he added: ‘This could take some time because we will need to source replacement stones.’

    Although the burning of the Koran was blamed for the desecration, others in the city believe it was also a perverse expression of deeper frustrations.

    The uprising that brought an end to Gaddafi’s 42-year rule began in Benghazi, but many of the rebels there now feel left behind in the new Libya.

    Since the transitional government moved west to the capital Tripoli, they say they have been ignored and have suffered economic hardship.


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    Why Is Obama in Bed with the Muslim Brotherhood?


    Posted by Ted Belman Bio ↓ on Feb 29th, 2012 Comments 57



    This article is reprinted with permission from The American Thinker.

    Dr. Essam Abdallah, an Egyptian liberal intellectual, in an article published last October in the leading liberal pan-Arab journal Elaph, refers to certain reports coming out of Washington:

    These reports reveal the depth of the below-the-surface coordination between the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranian regime and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, Libya and Jordan. This bloc of regimes and organizations is now becoming the greatest Islamist radical lobby ever to penetrate and infiltrate the White House, Congress, the State Department and the main decision making centers of the US government. All of this is happening at a time when the US government is going through its most strategically dangerous period in modern times because of its need to confront the Iranian Mullahs regime, which is expanding in the Middle East, as well as penetrating the United States, via powerful and influential allies.

    Abdallah alleged that “the popular revolts in the Arab world — and the Obama Administration’s position towards them — were determined by political battles between various pressure groups in Washington.”

    He followed up with another article this month in which he asks:
    [W]hy isn’t the West in general and the United States Administration in particular clearly and forcefully supporting our civil societies and particularly the secular democrats of the region? Why were the bureaucracies in Washington and in Brussels partnering with Islamists in the region and not with their natural allies the democracy promoting political forces?
    Steve Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism said of this article: “This is one of the most important articles I have read in years.” He then made allegations of his own:
    It was just revealed two days ago that FBI Director Mueller secretly met on February 8 at FBI headquarters with a coalition of groups including various Islamist and militant Arabic groups who in the past have defended Hamas and Hizballah and have also issued blatantly anti-Semitic statements. At this meeting, the FBI revealed that it had removed more than 1000 presentations and curricula on Islam from FBI offices around the country that was deemed “offensive.” The FBI did not reveal what criteria was used to determine why material was considered “offensive” but knowledgeable law enforcement sources have told the IPT that it was these radical groups who made that determination. Moreover, numerous FBI agents have confirmed that from now on, FBI headquarters has banned all FBI offices from inviting any counter-terrorist specialists who are considered “anti-Islam” by Muslim Brotherhood front groups.
    This comes as no surprise to me. In August of 2011, after making the case, I wrote, “To my mind, the alliance between the Obama administration and the Muslim Brotherhood is the cornerstone of Obama’s New Middle East policy.”

    The most damning bit of evidence was reported by Herb London in his article, “U.S. Betrays Syria’s Opposition“:
    In an effort to understand and placate Syrian opposition groups, Secretary Clinton invited them to a meeting in Washington. Most of those invited, however, have links to the Muslim Brotherhood. Missing from the invitations are Kurdish leaders, Sunni liberals, Assyrians and Christian spokesmen.

    According to various reports the State Department made a deal with Turkey and Muslim Brotherhood representatives either to share power with Assad to stabilize the government, or replace him if this effort fails. One organization, the Syrian Democracy Council (SDC), an opposition group composed of diverse ethnic and religious organizations, including Alawis, Aramaic Christians, Druze and Assyrians was conspicuously — and no coincidentally — omitted from the invitation list.
    Caroline Glick wrote in August of last year:
    What these observers fail to recognize is that Erdogan’s interests in a post-Assad Syria have little in common with US interests. Erdogan will seek to ensure the continued disenfranchisement of Syria’s Kurdish minority. And he will work towards the Islamification of Syria through the Muslim Brotherhood.

    This week Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held a private meeting with these brave democrats. Why didn’t she hold a public meeting? Why hasn’t Obama welcomed them to the White House?”

    Today there is a coalition of Syrian opposition figures that include all ethnic groups in Syria. Their representatives have been banging the doors of the corridors of power in Washington and beyond. Yet the same Western leaders who were so eager to recognize the Libyan opposition despite the presence of al Qaeda terrorists in the opposition tent have refused to publicly embrace Syrian regime opponents that seek a democratic, federal Syria that will live at peace with Israel and embrace liberal policies.

    By refusing to embrace liberal, multi-ethnic regime opponents, the administration is all but ensuring the success of the Turkish bid to install the Muslim Brotherhood in power if Assad is overthrown.
    The Syrian Democratic Coalition (SDC), above mentioned, is self-described thus:
    The Syrian Democratic Coalition (SDC) is an emerging coalition of diverse Syrian organizations coming together to help bring an end to the Assad regime and promote the transformation of Syria into a secular democracy based in liberty. The coalition is founded upon a belief in the separation of religion from state and is dedicated to establishing a new constitution and transparent federal republic in Syria, based in reason that equally protects minority rights, promotes gender equality, and embraces the rights and liberties of every individual as enumerated in the United Nations Declaration for Human Rights. This growing coalition crosses all ethnic, religious and tribal lines to represent all Syrians. It currently includes members of Save Syria Now!, the Kurdistan National Assembly of Syria, the Union of Syrian Arab Tribes and the Syrian Christian Democratic Movement.
    Sherkoh Abbas is secretary general of the Syria Democracy Council and president of the Kurdistan National Assembly of Syria. I first met him when he invited me to be a director of the American Kurdish Friendship League some five years ago.

    Recently, he confided in me that in all his dealings with the State Department over the last two years, no interest was shown in his coalition, and instead, he was continually pressed to support the Syrian National Council (SNC), made up of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists and Arabists. He believes that the U.S. is working with Salafi groups, and the Turkish government, to create an opposition in Syria that is strictly Islamist. Such an opposition would serve Turkish economic interests in Syria and keep the Kurdish issue dormant in Turkey as well as in Syria.

    For the last six months at least, Obama has been cultivating a relationship with PM Erdoğan of Turkey. The budding relationship prompted Barry Rubin to ask, “Why Is an Anti-American Islamist, Obama’s Favorite ME Leader?

    According to Sherkoh Abbas, one faction of the SDC had family connections in various Gulf States at the highest level and went to them for financial support. They were turned down, as Obama had instructed them to give money only to the SNC.

    Nevertheless, the SDC is gaining traction amongst the Kurds, Druze, Sunnis, Christians, and even the Alawites. This is so because these various minorities are beginning to think of a post-Assad Syria, and they all want a region of their own. They have expressed their willingness to be secular, democratic, and a friend of Israel and will be asked to commit to this in writing. They don’t want Islamism or Arabism. They prefer peace, freedom, and prosperity. So why isn’t Obama embracing them?

    The Obama administration is totally in sync with the Muslim Brotherhood. At the renowned Herzlia Conference this year, I met Salman Shalkh, one of the speakers from Qatar. We had a long conversation in which he kept pushing for the Saudi Plan to be embraced by Israel. This is the plan that Obama is committed to — i.e., ’67 borders with mutually agreed-upon swaps.

    Shalkh argued that Israel should talk to Hamas, and I countered, “What’s the point? We have nothing to offer to them.” Shalkh was also an apologist for the Muslim Brotherhood. These arguments should be expected from someone from Qatar. Unfortunately, the same arguments are being made by the White House. It is instructive to note that Shalkh is director of the Brookings Doha Center in Qatar, the Arab offshoot of the Brookings Institute that has so much influence with the State Department. He told me that he was one of the people who drafted the Roadmap on behalf of the State Department. I told him that it didn’t surprise me and suggested that he probably drafted the Saudi Peace Plan for them as well.

    What is going on now in American foreign policy is not so much a product of the Islamist lobby fueled by both the Muslim Brotherhood and the gulf states as it is a product of a strategic alliance that has existed between the U.S. and the gulf states led by Saudi Arabia since before Israel declared her independence. Unfortunately, President Obama, with his overt outreach to Islam, Muslims, and the Muslim Brotherhood, has taken it to another level.

    It would appear that the ideas expressed by Mearsheimer and Walt in their book, The Israel Lobby, are being embraced by both the State Department and the White House. These include the idea that the Israel lobby is too strong for America’s good and that Israel is a liability to America.

    But the truth is otherwise, as John R. MacArthur pointed out in 2007, in “The Vast Power of the Saudi Lobby“:
    Somehow, though, I can’t shake the idea that the Israel lobby, no matter how powerful, isn’t all it is cracked up to be, particularly where it concerns the Bush administrations past and present. Indeed, when I think of pernicious foreign lobbies with disproportionate sway over American politics, I can’t see past Saudi Arabia and its royal house, led by King Abdullah.
    This article is a classic and should be read in full.

    Obama has decidedly moved from an alliance with Israel to an alliance with the Islamists.

    MK Aryeh Eldad, in a speech given in the fall in the U.S., when Israel was intending to act against Iran militarily, said word came down from the White House that “if you act alone, you will remain alone.” Because Israel is so dependent on the U.S. for resupply of weapons and munitions in a prolonged war, this threat changed the calculus immediately. It is true that when Mahmoud Abbas was threatening to go to the U.N. for recognition, the Obama administration lobbied around the world for negative votes. But at the same time, Obama threatened Netanyahu that Obama would withhold his veto if Israel took punitive action against the PA by annexing some of the territories or by withholding funds. Finally, he used the same threat to get Israel to instruct AIPAC to lobby Congress not to punish the PA by withholding U.S. funds.

    Over the last six months, Israel has been warned by a succession of senior military and administration officials not to attack Iran, at this time, all in the name of giving sanctions a chance. But who believes that sanctions will stop Iran? And who believes that that the U.S. will in the end attack Iran to stop them?

    So while Obama is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, he is keeping Israel under his thumb.

    Isi Leibler takes exception to all this and reminds everyone:
    [T]his organization [The Muslim Brotherhood] represents one of the most fanatical and dangerous of the radical Islamist groups in the region, with a dark record of violence and terrorism imbedded in its DNA. It is rabidly anti-Western, anti-Christian, antisemitic, committed to imposing sharia law and a global Caliphate – and willing to employ any means to further its objectives.
    Many would argue that Obama is also “anti-Western, anti-Christian [,and] antisemitic.” Judging by his policies, they would be right.

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    Obama Administration Pressing Interpol to Deny Egypt's Request to Arrest NGO Workers

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    The Obama administration is petitioning Interpol to deny Egypt’s request for the arrest of American and other nongovernmental workers accused of illegally operating democracy programs and stirring unrest, in a push to prevent further escalation of the planned prosecution that sparked the worst crisis in U.S.-Egypt relations in three decades.

    According to people familiar with the case, State Department counsel Harold Koh and Justice Department Deputy Assistant Attorney General Bruce Swartz are trying to convince Interpol to dismiss as “politically motivated” Egypt’s request for worldwide notices seeking the arrest of some personnel from several nongovernmental organizations that receive U.S. funding.

    Cairo’s continued plans to prosecute the NGO workers is a sharp rebuke to the U.S., which has been pressing Egypt to drop the criminal charges against 43 nongovernmental workers—17 of them Americans—from the Washington-based National Democratic Institute, International Republican Institute, Freedom House, and International Center for Journalists.

    Tensions between Washington and Cairo eased on March 1 when seven American democracy workers were allowed to leave Egypt after their institutions paid some $5 million in “bail” to lift the travel ban against them.

    These Americans—including IRI’s Sam LaHood, son of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood—still face charges in a trial slated to resume on Tuesday, but are not currently wanted for arrest in Egypt.

    Shortly after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton signed off on military aid to Cairo, Egypt asked Interpol to issue so-called red notices for other nongovernmental workers who were not in Egypt at the time, or in some cases, who never worked there at all. As many as 10 of them are Americans. Among them are prominent figures in Washington, like Freedom House’s Charles Dunne, a former U.S. diplomat who also served on the National Security Council under President George W. Bush.

    If convicted, they could face a hefty financial penalty and up to five years in an Egyptian prison.

    The State and Justice departments, as well as Interpol headquarters in France and its bureau in Washington, all declined to comment on Egypt’s request for the red notices, which are usually viewed as precursors to filing extradition papers. “The United States is making known in every relevant forum, and before every relevant agency, its objection to these politically motivated trials in Egypt,” State Department spokesman Edgar Vasquez told National Journal.

    Successfully convincing Interpol that Egypt’s prosecution is politically motivated would prevent the organization from issuing the red notices, because its constitution mandates neutrality and strictly forbids it to undertake any intervention in matters of “political, military, religious or racial character.”

    The United States, unlike many of the 190 countries participating in the international police organization, is not obligated to arrest anyone on its soil subject to a red notice because it does not view this as “probable cause” for an arrest warrant, according to Douglas McNabb, a Washington-based international criminal lawyer. Individuals wanted under red notices can appeal Interpol’s decision in a process that can take months or even years, said McNabb, who specializes in Interpol notice removal and international extradition.

    “It’s serious when someone files a red notice,” McNabb told NJ. “It’s used to try and locate an individual with a view of later having them put in extradition proceedings.” Those who are listed under Interpol’s red notices are effectively “landlocked,” McNabb said, because they are likely to be arrested if they travel to other countries.

    There may be even bigger legal battles ahead for the U.S. government if Egypt chooses to follow up with extradition requests. In that case, the U.S. would have to abide by its extradition treaty with Cairo and arrest the suspects, McNabb said. A U.S. judge would then decide whether the individual is extraditable or not. However, the U.S. government would be forced into the uncomfortable position of having to represent Egypt in court-- against the American defendants it considers to be wrongly accused of violating Egypt's highly restrictive laws on civil society.

    The Egyptians’ acceleration in its planned prosecution of the pro-democracy workers is sure to anger U.S. lawmakers and activists who were concerned Cairo might be emboldened by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s recent decision to waive new congressional conditions on the package of $1.3 billion in military aid.

    “My worry is the [Egyptians] are going to feel they now have a green light to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law,” Dunne told National Journal, referring to Clinton’s decision to waive restrictions that would have required her to certify Cairo was respecting the transition to democracy, and implementing policies to protect due process of law and freedom of expression, association, and religion.

    Fayza Abul Naga, the Egyptian minister who coordinates foreign aid, has for years tried to clamp down on these NGOs and spearheaded the recent investigation of what she called their “illegal” activities. Naga, in a March 9 op-ed in the Washington Post, blasted Washington’s decision to redirect some funds to programs run by local and American civil society groups to aid the democratic transition in Egypt after Hosni Mubarak’s ouster.

    IRI’s Egypt country director Sam LaHood, has dismissed as “malarkey” the claims by Naga, who is a holdover from Mubarak’s government.

    “She’s alleged that the U.S. government is actively trying to sow unrest, trying to divide Egypt, and undermine the revolution,” LaHood told National Journal upon returning to Washington last month. “For a minister of another country to allege those things in a court of law and in public seems outrageous, and she points to our organizations as tools that are doing that.”

    Despite the politicized pall over the case, the NGO workers face technical charges of managing an unregistered international organization. “They sound like the things you might get a $20 ticket for-- but are being prosecuted as criminal charges,” Dunne said. The Egyptian government had for years left pending the applications of some groups Washington considers most critical to democracy programs in the country-- like those of IRI and NDI-- even as it tacitly allowed them to operate.

    Dunne, who has no plans to return to Egypt, said his lawyers plan to argue Freedom House did “nothing wrong” in court next week. The group had submitted its registration papers just before the late December raid in which the Egyptian authorities seized all their equipment and paperwork and sealed the offices. IRI and NDI had been granted permission to monitor the parliamentary elections just before Egyptian prosecutors raided their bureaus, backed by police and military forces carrying machine guns.

    Freedom House’s Sherif Mansour, an Egyptian who just received American citizenship days ago, has not been in Egypt since July and was surprised to find out about the charges against him through a news conference in February. “They one-sidedly declared me a fugitive,” said Mansour, who like Dunne still hasn’t seen any official documents proving he is actually being charged with crimes in Egypt.

    “That shows how political this case is,” Mansour said. “…It is basically meant to indict people in front of the media and publish their image from the start."

    Meanwhile, the prosecution has effectively sidelined some U.S.-funded democracy programs in the Egypt. “Our ability to operate as a fully functioning operation is nonexistent at the moment,” Dunne said. With Egypt investigating as many as 400 organizations in the country, Dunne said, “there’s a terrible concern… about the chilling effect on Egyptian civil society.”

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    Mali: Islamic supremacists impose Sharia, Christians flee


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    Jihad Watch - The "Islamic rebel faction" that has taken Timbuktu says it will impose Sharia. What's the big deal? As Imam Rauf and Boy Reza Aslan and all the other Sharia experts will tell you, Sharia is a perfectly benign system that is completely compatible with the U.S. Constitution.

    But wait! Apparently Iyad Ag Ghali is a Misunderstander of Islam, for somehow he has gotten the crazy idea that imposing Sharia has something to do with forcing women to wear the veil, stoning adulterers to death, and amputating the hands of thieves. Even the area's Christians appear to have been imbibing Islamophobic literature, for 90% of them have fled the benign and generous "protection" that Sharia offers them in an Islamic state. Don't they want to be "protected"? What's going on here? Can Rauf or Aslan clear this up for us? Have Islamophobic anti-Sharia advocates from the West somehow infiltrated Mali and blackened Sharia's good name?

    "Islamists impose sharia in Mali’s Timbuktu," by Rukmini Callimachi for The Associated Press, April 4:

    Bamako, Mali • Mali’s crisis deepened Wednesday, as officials in the fabled northern city of Timbuktu confirmed that the Islamic rebel faction that seized control of the town over the weekend has announced it will impose sharia law.

    Rebels in the country’s distant north have taken advantage of the power vacuum created last month when renegade soldiers in the capital of Bamako overthrew the nation’s democratically elected leader. In the chaos that followed the March 21 coup, they advanced on strategic towns in the north, including the ancient city of Timbuktu, located over 620 miles from the capital.

    The ethnic Tuareg rebels included a secular faction fighting for independence, and an Islamic wing, Ansar Dine, whose reclusive leader called a meeting of all the imams in the city on Tuesday to make his announcement. More




    April 6, 2012, 12:58 pm
    Rift Appears Between Islamists and Main Rebel Group in Mali


    The hotel is surrounded by high walls with double gates, which are locked at night, and a member of staff is on hand at all hours. However, crime is not a particular issue in Timbuktu and the owners have always felt safe in the town and elsewhere in Mali.
    As separatist rebels attempted to redraw the map of Mali, placing Timbuktu in their breakaway state of Azawad, a debate percolated on Wikipedia during the last week over how to edit the entry on the region.

    “This article is about a part of Mali,” one poster wrote on the discussion page for Azawad on Friday. “We don’t have the right to describe it as a sovereign state just because some armed men have declared it.”

    “Not so,” another responded. “This is not the first instance in which Wikipedia has published a lengthy article on a nation or asserted national territory without an internationally recognized state. See also, Kurdistan, the articles on Uigurstan/Singkiang, Palestine.”

    Other commentors added more examples, including Nagorno-Karabakh, a region of central Azerbaijan that Wikipedia describes as “a de facto independent but unrecognized state,” and Somaliland, a self-declared republic in northern Somalia.

    The debate, which included whether to list the city of Gao as the capital of Azawad despite no capital being yet declared, reflected the uncertain situation in northern Mali. A rebel spokesman admitted in an interview with France 24 that there was some “confusion” on the ground between groups over who controlled what, and a Malian security official told Agence France-Presse that Ansar ud-Din, the Islamist group, was in charge and not the rebels who declared independence.

    “From what we know, the M.N.L.A. is in charge of nothing at the moment,” the unnamed official said.

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    Obama's al-Qaeda - Muslim Brotherhood's Arab Spring in action.

    This was a well planned terror attack on the anniversary of 9/11.


    UPDATE: Mob sets fire to US consulate in Benghazi: witness



    An armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam, attacked the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi on Tuesday and set fire to the building, witnesses reported.

    The attack happened on the same day as a similar group of hardliners waving black banners attacked the US embassy in Cairo and tore down the US flag, but it was not immediately clear if the two incidents were coordinated.

    The protests came on the eleventh anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001, when US cities were targeted by hijacked planes.

    "Demonstrators attacked the US consulate in Benghazi. They fired shots in the air before entering the building," Libya's deputy interior minister, Wanis al-Sharif Sharif, who is in charge of the country's eastern region, told AFP.

    "Dozens of demonstrators attacked the consulate and set fire to it," said a Benghazi resident, who only gave his name as Omar, adding that he had seen the flames and heard shots in the vicinity.

    Contacted by AFP, a US State Department official in Washington said US officials were still seeking information about the situation in Benghazi.

    Asked whether the attack in Libya and the earlier demonstration against the US mission in Egypt could be connected, the official said it was unclear yet if the protests had been coordinated.

    Another Libyan witness said armed men had closed the streets leading up to the consulate, among them ultra-conservative Salafists.

    The Libyan incident came as thousands of Egyptian demonstrators tore down the Stars and Stripes at the US embassy in Cairo and replaced it with a black Islamic flag, similar to one adopted by several militant groups.

    Nearly 3,000 demonstrators gathered at the embassy in protest over a film deemed offensive to the Prophet Mohammed which was produced by expatriate members of Egypt's Christian minority resident in the United States.

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    U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens Killed in Consulate Attack in Benghazi


    In this April 11, 2011 file photo, U.S. envoy Chris Stevens speaks to local media at the Tibesty Hotel where an African Union delegation was meeting with opposition leaders in Benghazi, Libya. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis, File)

    By KEVIN DOLAK (@kdolak) , DEAN SCHABNER, ENJOLI FRANCIS and ANTHONY CASTELLANO
    Sept. 12, 2012

    The U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens has died as Libyan militants stormed the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Stevens, 52, was killed on Tuesday as 20 gun-wielding attackers stormed the U.S. consulate, angry about an American made film that depicts Prophet Mohammad as a fraud and womanizer.

    Nearly a dozen Americans were inside the consulate at the time, guarded only by Libyan security. For nearly 20 minutes the Libyan guards exchanged fire with the attackers, who hurled a firebomb inside.

    The militants burned down at least one building in the attack. It remains unclear whether Ambassador Stevens was killed by smoke inhalation or was in a car trying to escape which may have been hit by a mortar.

    Another American was killed from smoke inhalation during the attack. Two more individuals who worked with the Americans, possibly guards who were trying to get Stevens out of the area, were also killed.

    Stevens, who was a career member of the Senior Foreign Service and served two tours of duty in Libya, was nominated by President Obama to be ambassador to Libya early this year. His term of appointment as ambassador to Libya began on May 22, and he was in Libya during the revolution serving as the Amercan repreentavie to the transitional national council.

    The U.S. is now evacuating all Americans working with the state department from Benghazi, and the U.S. is also bracing for more attacks in the Middle East, considering this an extremely dangerous situation in the region right now.

    Anger over the film that some believe insults the Prophet Muhammad also provoked protests in Cairo Tuesday, where demonstrators climbed the walls of the U.S. embassy, took down the American flag and replaced it with a black flag.

    A senior U.S. senior official told ABC News they are on alert throughout the region and fear there could be more attacks to come.

    The group that attacked the consulate is called Ansar al Sharia, according to Libyan sources. The group has claimed responsibility for the attack, but did not mention the movie as motivation. The group is close to al Qaeda ideology and exists in east Libya.

    "I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a statement released Tuesday night. "As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who have suffered in this attack."

    Libyan President Mohammed Yussef Magariaf promised to coordinate additional support to protect Americans in the country, condemned the assault on the embassy and pledged his government's full cooperation, Clinton said.

    In Cairo, dozens of protesters scaled the embassy walls and took down the flag from a pole in the courtyard. After trying unsuccessfully to burn it, they ripped it apart and replaced it with a black flag bearing Arabic writing. Reports that the black flag was from al Qaeda were not confirmed.

    Victoria Nuland, a State Department spokeswoman, said today the United States was working with Egyptian security to restore order.

    "This came up pretty quickly," she said. "[It was a] relatively modest group of people and the Egyptian security was caught off guard."

    David Linfield, an embassy spokesman, said that no guns were involved.

    "No one fired," he said.

    According to The Atlantic, the Wall Street Journal and Egyptian media, the movie is called "Mohammed, Prophet of the Muslims" and has been promoted by Terry Jones, the controversial Florida preacher whose Koran burning in March 2010 led to the deadly violence in Afghanistan.

    Jones said Tuesday in a statement that the film was actually titled "Innocence of Muslims" and was intended not to attack Muslims but to show the "destructive ideology of Islam."

    "The movie further reveals in a satirical fashion the life of Muhammad," he said.
    Egyptian media also reported that two Egyptians from the Christian minority Coptic group had helped with the movie. Clips in Arabic and English have been released on YouTube.

    In a statement Tuesday, the U.S. embassy said it condemned "the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."

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    Romney: Obama administration response to embassy attacks 'disgraceful'

    By Byron York September 11, 2012

    Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is condemning the Obama administration's apologetic response to September 11 attacks on United States diplomatic missions in Egypt and Libya. The Libyan attack, in Benghazi, reportedly left an American official dead. In the Egyptian attack, in Cairo, an angry mob of Islamist radicals attacked the U.S. embassy, occupied the grounds, tore up the American flag, and waved the banner of al Qaeda -- all on the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks. According to a Washington Post report, the protesters "said they were demonstrating against anti-Islamic attitudes in the United States and an alleged film in the U.S. that insulted the Prophet Mohammed." The attackers in Libya were reportedly angry about the same film.

    The United States responded not by condemning the Egyptian attackers but by condemning anyone who might have "hurt the religious feelings of Muslims." An apologetic statement released by the U.S. embassy expressed offense at those who might have upset Muslim sensibilities but did not express any outrage, or even disapproval, of those who would storm a U.S. embassy and destroy the American flag. Here is the statement released Tuesday by the U.S. embassy, in its entirety:

    The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.

    Late Tuesday, after eschewing hard-edged political statements in observance of the 9/11 anniversary, Romney released a statement on the violence. "I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi," Romney said. "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."

    Romney's words are likely to be just the first in a heated discussion of the Mideast attacks and the administration's response to them. Romney, playing defense on national security after taking much Democratic criticism for his failure to mention U.S. troops during his acceptance speech at the Republican convention in Tampa, is said to be readying responses to Obama on a range of foreign policy issues, including the administration's dealings with Israel over the Iranian nuclear threat.

    But the Egypt and Libya attacks are a different sort of issue. Direct attack by mobs on an American embassy, involving death, the destruction of a U.S. flag and the invoking of al Qaeda -- on September 11, of all days -- will certainly stir outrage among many Americans. And the Obama administration's weak, apologizing response will likely prompt a strong Republican response in days to come.

    UPDATE: About an hour and a half after Romney released his "disgraceful" statement, the Obama campaign released a statement of its own. "We are shocked," the statement said, "that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack."

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    I wonder if this was a real embassy? If so it has defenses they should have used. Those less than lethal claymore mines would have ended this rather quickly.
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