Page 89 of 91 FirstFirst ... 397985868788899091 LastLast
Results 1,761 to 1,780 of 1811

Thread: Syria

  1. #1761
    Expatriate American Patriot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A Banana Republic, Central America
    Posts
    48,612
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Two nights ago I talked with a retired officer friend. His son is connected to a certain black ops unit. (No names or other information here, thanks) and he said something was going on. I could infer quickly given the news we were watching on television at the time, what was going to happen.

    So I saw this coming a couple days ago.

    The Russians were notified, according to open source news. They are screaming about it nonetheless.

    If they would have stepped up to the plate and actually obliterated ISIS this wouldn't be an issue. Obama warned Syrian and Assad, but he stepped over the line anyway. It took Trump to slap his bitch ass. The Russians won't do it. They are trying to be friendly to the guy.

    On the other hand, he likely wouldn't have use chemical weapons had ISIS not been involved.

    The players are so interwoven and interconnected now, it will be impossible to remove the cancer.

    This is probably going to trigger the Russians into doing something bigger. And China will get involved because "they can".

    I don't see a lot of good coming from this... it's rather like bombing a tent full of camels. The camels die and the camel jockeys get more camels..... You can't bomb ONE base and kill the cancer.
    Libertatem Prius!


    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




  2. #1762
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria


    Russia Ups Ante By Freezing Communications With US In Syria

    April 7, 2017

    Russia reacted to U.S. military strikes on its ally Syria Friday by cutting a hotline intended to prevent midair incidents, a response that demonstrates Moscow's readiness to defy Washington and could even put the two nuclear superpowers on a course toward military confrontation.

    President Vladimir Putin signaled he was ready to risk a clash with the U.S. and abandon hopes for mending ties with the U.S. under President Donald Trump, rather than accept the humiliation of standing by while his ally is bombed.

    Russia's decision to suspend the hotline established after the launch of the Russian air campaign in Syria in September 2015 effectively means that Russian and U.S. planes could fly dangerously close to each other during combat missions, raising the risk of inadvertent or deliberate clashes in the crowded skies over Syria.

    By freezing the information channel between the two potent militaries, Russia is signaling to Washington that it will tolerate no further strikes on Syrian government facilities.

    Syria has aging Soviet-built aircraft and air defense missile systems, while Russia has deployed dozens of its cutting edge warplanes and air defense batteries at its base in Syria's coastal province of Latakia. It also has a strategically important naval outpost in the Syrian port of Tartus, which is protected by air defense assets.

    Further upping the ante, the Russian Defense Ministry said it will now help strengthen Syrian air defenses.

    U.S. officials accused Russia of failing to ensure Syrian President Bashar Assad's commitment to a 2013 deal for the destruction of Assad's chemical weapons arsenal. The U.S. says that arsenal was tapped for a chemical attack that killed dozens of civilians in the Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib province.

    Trump cited the chemical attack as justification for the missile strike on a Syrian air base. But the Kremlin insists Assad's government wasn't responsible for the attack, saying civilians in Khan Sheikhoun were exposed to toxic agents from a rebel arsenal that was hit by Syrian warplanes.

    "President Putin believes that the U.S. strikes on Syria represent an aggression against a sovereign state in violation of international law under a far-fetched pretext," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in a statement. "Washington's move deals a significant blow to Russia-U.S. relations, which are already in deplorable shape."

    Until the attack on the Syrian air base, the U.S. had avoided striking Assad's forces for fear of provoking a clash with the Russian military.

    The action comes ahead of U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's trip to Moscow next week.

    The Kremlin initially had been encouraged by Trump's goal of repairing ties with Moscow, which plunged to post-Cold War lows under President Barack Obama, but hopes for a thaw have withered amid the congressional investigation of possible links between Trump campaign officials and Russia. The U.S. missile strike could make it all but impossible to improve relations.

    "Some people here thought that it would be easy to deal with Trump," Yelena Suponina, a Moscow-based Mideast expert, said in televised remarks. "No, it will be very difficult. He's not only ready to make tough decisions, he is unpredictable."

    Mikhail Yemelyanov, a senior member of the lower house of parliament, warned that the U.S. action raised the threat of a direct clash between Russia and the U.S.

    "Consequences could be grave, up to military confrontation and exchange of blows, nothing can be excluded," he said, according to the Interfax news agency.

    Tillerson said Russia had "failed in its responsibility" to deliver on a 2013 deal it helped broker to destroy Syria's chemical arsenal.

    "So either Russia has been complicit, or Russia has been simply incompetent on its ability to deliver," he said.

    By ordering the strike, Trump threatened the military assets of Assad, who has enjoyed Russia's support throughout the six-year conflict. Russia's military has helped turn the war in Assad's favor and Moscow has used its U.N. Security Council veto to protect Damascus from censure.

    Russia also has important military facilities in Syria that could be put at risk if Assad is removed from power, a goal of Western powers that had recently been put on the back burner because of the focus on fighting Islamic State extremists in Syria and Iraq.

    Peskov said the U.S. gave Russia advance notice about the strike. He added that Moscow believes it makes no sense to maintain the hotline.

    Asked if the decision to freeze the information exchange could raise the risk of midair incidents, Peskov said it was the U.S. attack that increased such danger.

    Peskov wouldn't say if Russia could use its military assets to protect Syrian facilities from future U.S. strikes.

    Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Russia will quickly "strengthen the Syrian air defense system and increase its efficiency in order to protect Syria's most sensitive infrastructure facilities."

  3. #1763
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria



  4. #1764
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria



  5. #1765
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria



  6. #1766
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria



  7. #1767
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria


    Russian Warship Steams Toward US Destroyers That Launched Syria Strikes

    April 7, 2017

    A Russian warship entered the eastern Mediterranean Friday and was heading toward the area where two U.S. Navy destroyers launched missile strikes into Syria, Fox News has learned.

    The Russian frigate, Admiral Grigorovich RFS-494, crossed through the Bosphorus Strait “a few hours ago” from the Black Sea, according to a U.S. defense official.

    The Russian warship is now in the eastern Mediterranean steaming in the direction of the U.S. warships.

    The Admiral Grigorovich is armed with advanced Kalibr cruise missiles.

    Also Friday, one of the American destroyers that launched the missiles into Syria started heading to an undisclosed location to rearm.

    The U.S. struck a Syrian airbase in retaliation for this week's gruesome chemical weapons attack against civilians, including infants and small children, military officials said.

    The frigate was bound for the Syrian port of Tartus on a routine voyage, the Russian news agency TASS reported Friday, citing a military-diplomatic source.

    "The Russian ship armed with cruise missiles Kalibr will visit the logistics base in Tartus, Syria," the source said, according to TASS.

    The ship was currently near the Blact Sea straits, Tass reported. The ship left on a voyage after stopping at Novorossiisk for supplies and taking part in a joint exercise with Turkish ships in the Black Sea.

  8. #1768
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria


    DoD Releases Satellite Images Of Syrian Airfield Hit By US

    April 7, 2017

    New images from the Department of Defense show how 59 powerful US missiles obliterated an airfield that was allegedly being used by Bashar al-Assad's regime to mount chemical attacks.

    Observers said al-Sharyat Air Base was 'almost completely destroyed' by the 1,000lb warheads in a 30-minute barrage of destruction that is said to have destroyed 20 planes, a dozen aircraft hangars and a fuel depot, as well as ripped up runways.

    The missiles were launched from US destroyers 150 miles away in the Mediterranean Sea in response to Assad's Sarin gas attack in Idlib on Tuesday, which killed 80 civilians, including children.

    But while the US and a number of its allies say the attack was justified, it has enraged Russia, which backs Assad's regime.


    Destruction: These images show the extent of the destruction wrought on Syria's al-Shayrat military airfield by US Tomahawk missiles on Thursday. Note the holes punched through the tops of the thick concrete aircraft shelters


    Damage: The photos show that the missiles - which were launched from 150 miles away by US destroyers - were terrifyingly accurate, slamming down on the shelters and ripping up runways


    Disabled: The damage sustained in the 30-minute attack was meant to disable the air base, near the city of Homs. This shot shows how far apart the main target zones were


    Before the attack: This photo shows the base in October 2016. Russia claimed that only 23 out of the 59 rockets fired actually hit the base, but the US Navy said only one failed to find its mark


    Aftermath: This is the aftermath of one of the Tomahawk missile strikes, underneath one of the protective concrete plane shelters. US officials said that 20 Syrian jets were destroyed in the attack


    Twisted: Twisted and shredded metal is all that's left of this ravaged plane after the bombardment. The Syrian government said at least seven soldiers were killed and nine wounded, though the US had tried to avoid barracks and populated buildings


    Detonated: These tanks - likely containing fuel - appear to have been blowin up by the massive rockets. The Syrian media claimed nine civilians died even though the attack was launched at almost 4am local time on a military base


    Shredded: Another plane shredded to pieces by the Tomahawk missiles, which have been updated many times since their use in the Gulf War. The modern missiles can be redirected en route to a target, and were launched 150 miles away


    Escaped: While many of the shelters were badly hit in the attacks, some - such as those visible far in the background - were not. Russian TV made a point of showing those shelters in their morning news reports


    Unscathed: This collection of five jets on al-Sharyat Air Base somehow escaped the bombing raid, despite being located out in the open, on a patchy grass plain

    (I'm sure these were deliberately not targeted, likely because they are derelict parts aircraft since they are sitting off the tarmac and the US knew this)

    Footage and photos from the ground Friday morning showed some of the aircraft shelters - which appear to be made of thick concrete, with feet of sand piled on top - partially or fully collapsed.

    Others had sunlight shining in through holes in their roofs, and black scorch marks on their walls.

    'Initial indications are that this strike has severely damaged or destroyed Syrian aircraft and support infrastructure and equipment at Shayrat Airfield, reducing the Syrian government's ability to deliver chemical weapons,' said Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis.

    Two senior defense officials told Fox News that about 20 Syrian jets were destroyed in the strike, although footage screened on Russian television suggested that at least two had escaped the destruction.

    Early reports put the figure at nine destroyed jets.

    The US officials said that none of the planes had been able to scramble before missiles hit, and that no Russian aircraft were at the airfield. No helicopters were struck during the destruction, they said.

    When asked why Russian TV footage showed an undamaged shelter and two apparently intact jets, an expert told CNN that the US had been precise in its targeting due to the size of the airfield so as not to waste missiles, and so not every area would be accounted for.


    On the ground: These damaged hangars, blackened by smoke, are at the entrance to the Syrian airfield bombarded by the US. The US targeted several such shelters across the military base, which it said held chemical weapons


    Burnt out: Footage showing burnt out shelters and hangars and a damaged runway was cheered by tearful Syrians hoping that Trump's intervention would lead to Assad being overthrown


    Shattered: Pictures show shards of shattered concrete strewn across the airfield at the Syrian military base this morning. The Syrian Army called it an 'act of 'aggression'



    Jets: Footage and pictures from the base screened on Russian TV appeared to show jet planes still contained in undamaged aircraft hangars

    Syria claimed that at least seven of its soldiers were killed and nine wounded in the airstrike. According to US intel, there were 12-100 personnel on the site that night. Efforts were made not to hit barracks, officials said.

    SANA, Syria's state media, also claimed that nine civilians, including four children, were killed - even though the airbase was attacked at 3:45am local time.

    The satellite photos show a considerable distance between the base's perimeter and the nearest built-up area.

    The US said that only one of its missiles failed to land on-target after being launched by the USS Ross and USS Porter, although Russians released their own counter-claims, saying that only 23 of the 59 rockets hit the base.

    But the photos released by the Department of Defense suggest that that the missiles - at least, the ones involved in the damage seen in the satellite images - were closely clustered around the aircraft hangars.

    The US said the base was being used to store chemical weapons, like those used on civilians in the city of Idlib on Tuesday.

    That attack, which killed 80 civilians and injured many more, was the fourth such atrocity in Syria since the conflict began in 2011. One chemical attack has been blamed on ISIS and the other three on Syrian forces.

    An hour after the attack, Trump, speaking from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, where he is hosting the Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife Peng as part of a two day summit, said the US had to act after the Syrian dictator launched the 'horrible chemical weapons attack' on innocent civilians.

    'Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack,' he said. 'It was a slow and brutal death for so many. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.'

    He added: 'There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations under the chemical weapons convention, and ignored the urging of the UN security council.

    'Years of previous attempts at changing Assad's behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically.

    'As a result, the refugee crisis continues to deepen and the region continues to destabilize, threatening the United States and its allies.

    'Tonight I call on all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria, and also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types.'


    Heartbreak: Disturbing footage showed Syrian father Abdul Hamid al-Yousef crying uncontrollably over the graves of his wife and two children who were killed in a suspected sarin gas attack this week


    Smoke rises from the deck of the USS Porter as the United States blasted a Syrian air base with a barrage of cruise missiles in fiery retaliation for this week's gruesome chemical weapons attack against civilians.


    The guided-missile destroyer USS Porter (DDG 78) launches a tomahawk land attack missile in the Mediterranean Sea


    A U.S. Navy image shows the USS Ross (DDG 71) firing a tomahawk land attack missile at the Syrian air base


    Inside the Mar-a-Lago war room: President Trump is briefed on a video link with his advisers and cabinet members around him. Trump was meeting with Chinese Premier Xi Jinping when he was pushed into action

    Putin this morning denounced the strike as an 'illegal act of aggression' and also ripped up an agreement to avoid mid-air clashes between Russian and US fighter jets over Syria.

    He also ordered his Admiral Grigorovich frigate - armed with cruise missiles and a self-defense system - from the Black Sea to dock in-between the Syrian mainland and the US ships that launched the attack.

    Russia has also said it will further strengthen Syrian air defenses.

    Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Putin regarded the US action as 'aggression against a sovereign nation' on a 'made-up pretext' and as a cynical attempt to distract the world from civilian deaths in Iraq.

    Russia's foreign minister says no Russian servicemen have been hurt in the bombing raid. Its security council said it regretted the 'harm' done to relations between Washington and Moscow.

    The country also demanded a special meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss what it called 'aggression against a sovereign state'.

    The meeting, called by Bolivia on Friday afternoon, saw Bolivian Ambassador Sacha Lorenti denouncing the United States as acting like 'investigator, attorney, judge and executioner'.

    The US was defended by France and Britain.

    British Ambassador Matthew Rycroft praised President Trump's decision, saying the attack was 'an appropriate response to such a heinous crime, a war crime.'

    And French Ambassador Francois Delattre expressed hope the US action would be a 'game changer and help boost the political negotiations'.

    UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres urged restraint and a renewed push for peace in Syria, saying in a statement that 'there is no other way to solve the conflict than through a political solution'.

    He said: 'For too long, international law has been ignored in the Syrian conflict, and it is our shared duty to uphold international standards of humanity. This is a prerequisite to ending the unrelenting suffering of the people of Syria.'

    The US was also branded 'a partner of ISIS' by al-Assad's spokesman, calling the missile strikes 'reckless and irresponsible.'

    He also accused Trump of 'naively falling' for a 'false propaganda campaign' about the Idlib Sarin massacre.

    A Pentagon official told DailyMail.com that the president 'is dead-set against letting Assad labor under the illusion that the Syrian army can murder innocent people with impunity.'

    A Syrian military source also claimed on Friday that Syria had already 'learned of the American threat' and that precautions were taken - but it did not say how they found out, or from whom.

    'We took precautions in more than one military point, including in the Shayrat airbase. We moved a number of airplanes towards other areas,' the official said, adding they were forewarned 'hours' before the strike.

    Those claims were belied by photographs and video that emerged Friday showing burned out planes underneath the targeted shelters.

    Some planes - several of which had apparently been left out in the open air, at least two of which were still in shelters - were undamaged but on the base.

    America had used a special military-to-military hotline to warn Russia about the airstrike around 30 minutes in advance - but the Trump administration did not ask Moscow for permission.

    It is likely Russia alerted the Syrians about the incoming strikes but this has not been confirmed.


    Russian warship the Admiral Grigorovich (pictured on recent deployment) - armed with cruise missiles and a self-defense system - was sent from the Black Sea to Syria today following the airstrike on al-Shayrat military airfield


    Block: Vladimir Putin ordered the Admiral Grigorovich will pass through the east Mediterranean waters where the USS Ross and USS Porter fired the 59 Tomahawk missiles that pounded Assad's al-Shayrat military airfield near Homs in the early hours of Friday

    The US has been supported by some of its foreign allies.

    In a joint statement on Friday, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande said, 'President Assad bears sole responsibility for this development.

    Hollande added that the US strike was what France had been calling for in the wake of another chemical attack in 2013.

    French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault, speaking alongside German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel, added that they hoped this would not spiral into further conflict.

    'We do not want an escalation,' Ayrault said. 'We have to stop the hypocrisy. If Russia is acting in good faith it should stop and negotiate.'

    Britain also stood staunchly behind its long-time ally and what it called an 'appropriate response.'

    A spokeswoman for Prime Minister Theresa May said: 'The UK Government fully supports the US action, which we believe was an appropriate response to the barbaric chemical weapons attack launched by the Syrian regime, and is intended to deter further attacks.'

    EU President Donald Tusk said in a tweet that 'US strikes show needed resolve against barbaric chemical attacks. EU will work with the US to end brutality in Syria.'

    And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that 'in both word and action' Trump 'sent a strong and clear message' that 'the use and spread of chemical weapons will not be tolerated.'


    Bolivia called an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council (pictured) in New York to discuss Trump's attack on Syria on Friday afternoon. The Bolivian Ambassador denounced the US as acting like 'investigator, attorney, judge and executioner'


    Defended: The UK defended its long-time ally, with British Ambassador Matthew Rycroft defending Trump's attack as 'an appropriate response to such a heinous crime, a war crime'

    Predictably, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif was less enthused.

    He took to Twitter on Friday to denounce the strikes, saying: 'Not even two decades after 9/11, US military fighting on same side as al-Qaeda & ISIS in Yemen & Syria. Time to stop hype and cover-ups.'

    And Iranian news agency ISNA quoted foreign ministry spokesman Bahram Qasemi as saying: 'Such measures will strengthen terrorists in Syria... and will complicate the situation in Syria and the region.'

    Iran is a long-time supporter of the Assad regieme.

    There has also been debate at home, as lawmakers on both sides of the aisle complained that the Commander in Chief had authorized military action without consulting Congress.

    'The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate,' said Republican Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

    Libertarians such as Representative Justin Amash, a House Freedom Caucus member, want to stick tightly to the Constitution, which he argued on Twitter had been violated by Trump's actions.

    'Airstrikes are an act of war' he wrote. 'Atrocities in Syria cannot justify departure from Constitution, which vests in Congress power to commence war.'

    He continued: 'Framers of Constitution divided war powers to prevent abuse,' he wrote. 'Congress to declare war; President to conduct war and repel sudden attacks.'

    Nancy Pelosi, the House's top-ranking Democrat, begged House Speaker Paul Ryan in a letter Friday morning to call back House members to DC as they begin their two-week Passover and Easter recess.

    'The President's action and any response demands that we immediately do our duty. Congress must live up to its Constitutional responsibility to debate an Authorization of the Use of Military Force against a sovereign nation,' Pelosi said.

  9. #1769
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Likely the two jets seen in the Tweeted pics that survived.


    Jets Launch Raids From Syria Base Hit By US: Monitor

    April 7, 2017


    A handout picture from the Syrian Arab News Agency reportedly shows Syrian Armed Forces visiting Shayrat airfield after American forces fired a barrage of 59 cruise missiles at the airbase overnight

    Two warplanes took off from a central Syrian airbase Friday hours after it was struck by US missiles and carried out bombing raids nearby, a monitoring group said.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the aircraft "took off from inside the Shayrat base, which is partially back in service, and struck targets near Palmyra".

    Observatory head Rami Abdel Rahman could not specify whether they were Syrian or Russian planes, but said they were Sukhoi jets, which both Damascus and its ally Moscow use.

    The Britain-based group said the aircraft targeted territory controlled by the Islamic State jihadist group, which holds parts of the central Syrian province of Homs.

    Early on Friday morning, the US military fired 59 Tomahawk missiles at the Shayrat air field in response to a suspected chemical attack this week that has been widely blamed on the Damascus regime.

    A Syrian military source told AFP that Syria's armed forces were warned about possible US military action hours before the strike took place.

    "We took precautions in more than one military point, including in the Shayrat airbase. We moved a number of airplanes towards other areas," the source said.

    US officials said Russia's military in Syria had been informed of the strike beforehand in order to avoid casualties that could prompt a broader crisis.

    The US said the missiles targeted radars, aircraft, and air defence systems and destroyed around 20 Syrian planes, but said the runway was intact.

    Russia's military said the strike had an "extremely low" military impact, with fewer than half of the 59 missiles reaching the airbase.

    According to the Observatory, the US strike on the base killed eight members of Syria's armed forces, including a doctor.

    Syria's army had earlier said six people were killed in the strike, without specifying if they were military personnel or civilians.

    The official state news agency SANA also the strikes also killed nine civilians in villages near the base.

  10. #1770
    Expatriate American Patriot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A Banana Republic, Central America
    Posts
    48,612
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Any one have an indication where the Russian ship is yet?
    Libertatem Prius!


    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




  11. #1771
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Supposedly it was headed on a scheduled visit to Tartus.

  12. #1772
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Wonderful...
    US Envoy Nikki Haley Says Syria Regime Change Is 'Inevitable'

    April 9, 2017

    The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has told CNN that removing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power is a priority, cementing an extraordinary U-turn in the Trump administration's stance on the embattled leader.

    Two days after the US launched military strikes on a Syrian airbase in response to a chemical weapons attack widely blamed on the Assad regime, Haley said Assad's departure was inevitable.

    But before Tuesday's chemical attack on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun, which killed 89 people, Haley had said toppling Assad was not a priority. President Donald Trump, before his election, described fighting ISIS and seeking Assad's removal at the same time as "idiocy."

    After seeing images of the horrific aftermath of the chemical attack, Trump ordered a bombardment of the Shayrat airbase in western Syria, which the US believes was the launchpad for the strike. It was the first time that the US had struck the Syrian regime since the start of the six-year civil war

    In her interview with CNN's "State of the Union," Haley said removing Assad from power was one of a number of priorities for the US.

    "Getting Assad out is not the only priority. So what we're trying to do is obviously defeat ISIS. Secondly, we don't see a peaceful Syria with Assad in there. Thirdly, get the Iranian influence out. And then finally move towards a political solution, because at the end of the day this is a complicated situation, there are no easy answers and a political solution is going to have to happen," she said in the interview with anchor Jake Tapper, to air on Sunday.

    Haley said that the Trump administration's view was that a political solution would not happen with Assad in power, though she stopped short of saying Assad's departure was now official US policy.

    "If you look at his actions, if you look at the situation, it's going to be hard to see a government that's peaceful and stable with Assad," she said.

    "Regime change is something that we think is going to happen because all of the parties are going to see that Assad is not the leader that needs to be taking place for Syria."


    US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was more equivocal about Assad's future on Sunday. He told CBS's "Face the Nation" that the threat of ISIS would first need to be reduced, then "I think we can turn our attention directly to stabilizing the situation in Syria."

    Change of tone

    The decision to carry out strikes against the regime and the change in tone from Haley follows Trump's comments that the chemical attack "crossed a lot of lines for me."

    Five days before the Khan Sheikhoun attack, Haley had indicated the US had ditched the Obama administration's policy of removing Assad.

    "Our priority is no longer to sit and focus on getting Assad out," Haley had told reporters on March 30. On the same day, Tillerson said on a trip to Turkey that the "longer-term status of Assad would be decided by the Syrian people."

    Russia has claimed Tuesday's deaths in Khan Sheikhoun were caused by a Syrian regime airstrike on a rebel-controlled chemical weapons facility.

    Syria has given a murky account of what happened, but denies deliberately carrying out a chemical attack and blames "terrorist groups" for the deaths.

    Lavrov said he supported a "thorough and impartial" investigation.

    Russia-US tensions rise

    Haley on Friday warned that the United States was prepared to take further action in Syria, but the Trump administration has refused to be drawn on what those next steps would be.

    Tensions between Russia and the US have increased sharply since Trump ordered the missile strikes, and Russia has sent a frigate armed with cruise missiles to a port in western Syria in an apparent show of force in response to the US action.

    Russia is Syria's most powerful ally and has propped up the Assad regime with air power.

    The US has said the Pentagon is looking for any evidence the Russian government knew about or was complicit in the chemical attack.

    A US military official told CNN the Pentagon was examining specifically whether a Russian warplane had bombed a hospital in Khan Sheikhoun five hours after the initial chemical attack, with the aim of destroying evidence. Russia flatly denies the allegations.

    In a joint Russian-Iranian statement, the two countries stressed that the US strike on Syria had crossed red lines.

    "We will respond strongly to any aggression on Syria ... Russia and Iran will not allow America to dominate the world," the statement said.

    In her interview with CNN, Haley came down hard on Russia, reminding viewers that Moscow had said it would ensure chemical weapons would not be used in Syria.

    "Either they knew that there were chemical weapons and they knew there was going to be chemical weapon use, and they just hid it from the international community, or they are being played for fools by Assad -- by him having chemical weapons and they're just in the dark and they don't know anything about it," she said.

    Haley added that US intelligence showed there was no doubt the Syrian regime was behind the chemical attack.

    "I think the international community has pretty much spoken and Russia is out there on an island saying that Assad didn't do it, because everybody else is very clear and knows that Assad did," she said.

    Tillerson and his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov, spoke by phone on Saturday, according to the Russian Foreign Ministry, which said the US had initiated the call.

    "Lavrov stressed that an attack on a country whose government is fighting terrorism only plays into the hands of extremists creates additional threats to regional and global security," the statement said. Lavrov said US allegations that Syria carried out the chemical attack "do not correspond to reality."

    The two ministers are scheduled to meet in Moscow on Wednesday for talks.

    The US strike

    US officials said the strike against the Shayrat airbase hit aircraft, fuel storage, weapons dumps and other equipment, and was aimed at sending a message to the Syrian regime that the use of chemical weapons would not be tolerated.

    But new airstrikes on Saturday, believed carried out by the Syrian regime or Russia, targeted Khan Sheikhoun again, raising criticism that the US action had been ineffective and should have aimed to destroy the facility's runway.

    Trump tweeted in defense on Saturday night that targeting a runway made little sense and they were easily repaired.



    Look, I'm all for a wide scale troop deployment to the Middle East to smite ISIS and re-pacify Iraq and Afghanistan but, messing around with Syria is not something we need to be doing.

    The fact is Syria has been a Russian client state since the Soviet times. They have a warm water port there and they will make sure they keep it. There are very few places outside of Russia's actual borders I am willing to call this but, that is Russia's "back yard". The FSU Eastern European nations are not but Syria most certainly is because of their continued presence there and the fact that Assad wants them there.

    Because of that, Syria isn't an area we need to be meddling in. There are no upsides to it.

    On the other hand, if we can manage to get back into Iraq and re-stabilize it, we could effectively manage to turn it into our own client state in the region if we had people smart enough to put a long term regional solution into effect. Definitely an ideal solution for dealing with Iran long term as well.

  13. #1773
    Postman vector7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Where it's quiet, peaceful and everyone owns guns
    Posts
    21,663
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 73 Times in 68 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Russia and Iran warn US they will 'respond with force' if red lines crossed in Syria again

    Russia and Iran have warned the US they will “respond with force” if their own “red lines” are crossed in Syria.

    Following Friday’s cruise missile strike on a Syrian airbase, in retaliation for the chemical attack on Khan Sheikhoun earlier in the week, the alliance supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad made a joint statement threatening action in response to “any breach of red lines from whoever it is”.

    “What America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well,” the group’s joint command centre said.

    US President Donald Trump said the strike on al Shayrat airbase, near Homs, with some 60 Tomahawk missiles was “representing the world”. The base was allegedly used by Syrian forces to conduct the attack, which killed more than 70 people.

    On Sunday the UK’s Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon, demanded Russia rein in Mr Assad, claiming that Moscow is “responsible for every civilian death” in Khan Sheikhoun.

    Sir Michael said the attack had happened “on their watch” and that Vladimir Putin must now live up to previous promises that Mr Assad’s chemical weapons had been destroyed.

    Experts have dismissed Russia’s claim that a rebel chemical weapons facility caused the deaths.

    Britain, the US and France accused Mr Assad’s regime of gassing civilians in the opposition-held town, but Damascus claimed it destroyed its toxic stockpiles following an international agreement struck in 2013.

    The Russian defence ministry put out a competing version of events claiming legitimate Syrian air strikes against “terrorists” had struck a warehouse used to produce and store shells containing toxic gas, which were allegedly being sent to Iraq.

    The joint command centre also said on Sunday the missile strike would not deter it from “liberating” Syria, and that the US military presence in the north of the country amounted to an illegal “occupation”.

    Mr Putin and Iranian leader Hassan Rouhani have called for an objective investigation into the chemical attack.

    US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Sunday that Moscow had failed to carry out the 2013 agreement to secure and destroy chemical weapons in Syria.

    “The failure related to the recent strike and the recent terrible chemical weapons attack in large measure is a failure on Russia’s part to achieve its commitment to the international community,” he said on ABC’s This Week.

    Mr Tillerson is expected in Moscow in the coming days for talks with Russian officials.

    He stopped short of accusing Russia of being directly involved in the planning or execution of the attack.

    But he said the US expected Russia to take a tougher stance against Syria by rethinking its alliance with Mr Assad because “every time one of these horrific attacks occurs, it draws Russia closer into some level of responsibility.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7675031.html


    https://twitter.com/TheWarMonitor
    Breaking : info about armors entering #Syria n desert from #Jordan boarders
    Multiple sources alleging that a US armoured column has entered #Syria from #Jordan. ~20 tanks and artillery pieces.



    American soldiers and Jordan soldiers entered Syrian territory


    April 9, 2017

    About 20 U.S. army tanks and Jordan troops entered Syrian territory from Jordan on the morning of 9 April 2017.

    U.S. military forces and the Jordanian army has intruded into Syrian territory to rescue the rebel opposition forces terror ISIS enclosure in an area near the Iraqi-Syrian border, Al-Masdar page on April 9, the news said.

    According to Al-Masdar, previously, on 8 April, the terrorist forces of the Islamic State organization claiming (ISIS) conducted a surprise attack aimed at opposing rebel forces backed by the U.S. are present in the border area Tanf temporary aid to Border after organizing a car bomb attack aimed at the opposition’s stop in the border region.

    The attack opened with the touch screen car bombing has a 3 blade Warrior killed opposition. The Eastern Tigers Organization (Osoud al-Sharqiyah) due to the US-backed terrorist was besieged, are calling for help from American coalition forces leader in Iraq.

    Soon after, about 20 tanks and many armored vehicles of the US, Jordan entered Syrian territory on the morning of April 9, according to the local time to the siege of his allies on the other side of the territory. This action was the Syrian Government alleges is in violation of its sovereignty.

    Al-Masdar quoted witnesses or, in addition to the infantry, armored, army of the United States of America has undertaken the service not to intervene in a limited way inside Syrian territory.

    Fighters of the Jordanian Air Force also fought to relieve pressure on the besieged rebel opposition forces on the same line with guest terrorism coalition ISIS.

    http://www.todaynews24h.com/american...ian-territory/



    Russian warship steams toward US destroyers that launched Syria strikes

    By Lucas Tomlinson


    FoxNews.com


    Russian warships heading towards US Navy destroyers


    A Russian warship has entered the eastern Mediterranean Sea Friday and is heading toward the two U.S. Navy destroyers that launched missile strikes into Syria, Fox News has learned.

    The Russian frigate, Admiral Grigorovich RFS-494, crossed through the Bosphorus Strait “a few hours ago” from the Black Sea, according to a U.S. defense official.

    WORLD REACTS TO MISSILE STRIKES

    The Russian warship is now steaming in the direction of the U.S. warships.

    The Admiral Grigorovich is armed with advanced Kalibr cruise missiles.

    TRUMP SAYS MILITARY ACTION IN ‘VITAL NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST’

    Also Friday, one of the American destroyers that launched the missiles into Syria started heading to an undisclosed location to rearm.

    The U.S. struck a Syrian airbase in retaliation for this week's gruesome chemical weapons attack against civilians, including infants and small children, military officials said.

    The frigate was bound for the Syrian port of Tartus on a routine voyage, the Russian news agency TASS reported Friday, citing a military-diplomatic source.

    "The Russian ship armed with cruise missiles Kalibr will visit the logistics base in Tartus, Syria," the source said.

    The ship was near the Black Sea straits, Tass reported. It left on a voyage after stopping at Novorossiisk for supplies and taking part in a joint exercise with Turkish ships in the Black Sea.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


    Nikita Khrushchev: "We will bury you"
    "Your grandchildren will live under communism."
    “You Americans are so gullible.
    No, you won’t accept
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    ."
    We’ll so weaken your
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    until you’ll
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    like overripe fruit into our hands."



  14. #1774
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Oh boy...


    Russia Knew Of Syrian Chemical Attack In Advance, US Official Says

    April 10, 2017

    A senior U.S. official says the United States has concluded that Russia knew in advance of Syria's chemical weapons attack last week.

    The official says a Russian-operated drone flew over a hospital in Syria as victims of the attack were rushing to get treatment.

    Hours after the drone left, a Russian-made fighter jet bombed the hospital in what American officials believe was an attempt to cover up the usage of chemical weapons.

    Until Monday, U.S. officials had said they weren't sure if the drone was operated by Russia or Syria. The senior official said it still wasn't clear who was flying the jet that bombed the hospital.

    The official said the presence of the drone couldn't have been a coincidence, and that Russia must have known the chemical weapons attack was coming and that victims were seeking treatment.

    The official wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity.

  15. #1775
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria


    Patrolling the Skies Over Syria: Lockheed Martin F-22 Stealth Raptors

    April 10, 2017

    The United States is reportedly patrolling the skies above Syria using stealthy Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptors.

    The stealthy supersonically cruising air superiority fighters are the only fighters in the U.S. inventory that can safely fly within the engagement envelope of Russian S-400 and S300V4 surface-to-air missiles defense while the Pentagon ascertains how the Kremlin will respond to the American cruise missile attack on Syria last week. Indeed, the stealthy fighters would likely play an outsized role in suppressing those Russian missile batteries if the White House chooses to expand its campaign against the Syrian regime led by Bashar al-Assad which can operate in airspace where older conventional jets can’t.

    “The Russian missile systems are a big issue for our fourth gen platforms,” a senior U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor pilot told The National Interest. “We'd use our fifth gen assets to include fighters, bombers and missiles if required to penetrate and strike targets as required.”

    Nonetheless, the Russian missile defenses are formidable. “The S-400 is a true anti-access/area denial system to most aircraft, but we have the capability to maneuver inside of Syria to hold targets at risk,” the Raptor pilot said.

    But while F-22 pilots are confident about the Raptor’s ability to defeat the S-300V4 and the S-400, the Air Force official acknowledged that the stealthy fifth-generation aircraft has never faced off against these next-generation Russian air defenses in actual combat before. The Air Force is not 100 percent sure if the Russians have the capability to attack the Raptor or F-35—as the Russians have often claimed.

    “I'm going to have to say ‘it depends’ and unfortunately I can't elaborate due to security classification—hope you understand,” a senior Air Force official told The National Interest. “You can make a case either way... The exact environment and other factors matter. Those who really understand the threat and are privy to F-35 capabilities would control the fight so that we are at an advantage to survive and kill. However, if you're stupid, the F-35 can put itself into a vulnerable situation... Just like any weapon system.”

    A retired senior Air Force official agreed that the Russian air defenses are a genuine threat—but that is why the service has advocated for buying more stealthy aircraft like the F-35.

    “The S-400, S-300V4 and to a lesser degree the Pantsir batteries are a concern,” retired Lt. Gen. David Deptula—a former F-15C Eagle pilot and Air Force intelligence chief—told The National Interest. “And that is why some of us have been saying for over a decade now that low observability is key to successful operations and surviving in advanced integrated air defense environments.”

    Airpower analysts too agreed that the Russian air defenses would be a serious problem during the early stages of any air campaign. “Initially, they would be a significant problem. If airstrikes launched on Syrian forces—which is still a big if—their air defenses would be among the first targets attacked,” Mark Gunzinger, a former B-52 pilot and senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments told The National Interest shortly before last week’s cruise missile strike. “Cruise missiles such as Tomahawks and JASSMs would probably be used to surprise S-400s and S-300V4s. There may be little need to use manned aircraft them against these threats, especially when other options exist to suppress them. I also suggest that an initial wave of standoff strikes would be launched by U.S. bombers operating from CONUS bases. That would reduce the likelihood—however remote—of counterstrikes against regional airbases used by U.S. forces, plus it would reduce political friction with regional partners hosting US air forces who would have to grant permission for offensive operations against Syria's military. Of course, F-22s and B-2s would have significant roles to play, especially if an operation was intended to be more than a short, sharp, shock.”

    Meanwhile, the Russians have long claimed that they can detect, track and engage stealth aircraft such as the F-22 and F-35. However, it is difficult to gauge the accuracy of the Russian claims. “I do not know what will be the exact performance of the Russian SAM systems in this particular situation—I think it is hard to tell now,” Russian defense and foreign policy expert Vasily Kashin, a professor at Moscow's Higher School of Economics (HSE) told The National Interest. “Russians claim that the long-range SAM can shoot down stealth planes, although the range could be reduced. Pantsir systems are primarily against missiles and bombs not the planes carrying them and they will act as the second line of defense. But this is a minor issue. In this case we will have a war and there will be cruise missile attacks against the U.S. forces across the Middle East and then it will escalate to a full scale war.”

  16. #1776
    Postman vector7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Where it's quiet, peaceful and everyone owns guns
    Posts
    21,663
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 73 Times in 68 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Vladimir Putin says US is preparing to bomb Syrian capital and will blame devastation

    Vladimir Putin has sensationally claimed that the US is preparing airstrikes on the Syrian capital - and will pin the blame on Bashar-al Assad's forces.

    The Russian leader made the astonishing claim - that the US is planning to FAKE chemicals weapons attacks - during a joint press conference with the Italian President Sergio Mattarella.

    Putin insisted Russia would tolerate Western criticism of its role in Syria but hoped that attitudes would eventually soften.

    But his claims that Russia has information strikes are being planned by the US on the southern Damascus region - the aim of which is to blame the resulting devastation on the subsequently discredited Syrian government - will not go down well in the White House.

    When asked whether he expected more US missile strikes on Syria, he said: "We have information that a similar provocation is being prepared ... in other parts of Syria including in the southern Damascus suburbs where they are planning to again plant some substance and accuse the Syrian authorities of using (chemical weapons)."

    He did not offer any proof for that claim however.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...ice=responsive


    Tillerson Says Syria’s Assad Regime Is Coming to an End

    U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Tuesday it is clear President Bashar al-Assad’s government in Syria won’t be in power much longer, as foreign ministers from the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations chose not to impose new sanctions on the regime.

    The Trump administration had suggested before a two-day meeting of G-7 foreign ministers in Lucca, Italy, that it would consider wider retaliation following a suspected chemical attack on a rebel-held town.

    It has also increased its criticism of Russia, the Syrian regime’s main backers. Mr. Tillerson issued a stern warning as he headed from the meeting to Moscow for high-level talks.

    “It is clear to all of us that the reign of the Assad family is coming to an end,” Mr. Tillerson told reporters.

    The secretary of state also said that “Russia has failed in its commitment to guarantee a Syria free of chemical weapons.” Mr. Tillerson arrives in Moscow on Tuesday afternoon.

    It is unclear if the failure of Russia to respect a previous agreement to end the use of chemical weapons by Syria is because “it doesn’t take [the commitment] seriously or if it’s incompetent,” Mr. Tillerson told reporters. “But we can’t let that happen again.”

    Italian Foreign Minister Angelino Alfano told reporters that G-7 foreign ministers haven’t agreed to fresh sanctions on Syria and warned that G-7 countries “must not push Russia into a corner.”

    Coming days after the first deliberate American military strike against the Syrian leader’s forces, the trip by Mr. Tillerson has taken on far-reaching strategic and diplomatic importance, both in defining U.S.-Russian relations and in potentially clarifying the Trump administration’s signals over the Syrian civil war.

    Speaking to the British Broadcasting Corp. after the meeting, U.K. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said fresh sanctions on Syria and Russia should still be considered if investigators can prove conclusively that Mr. Assad’s government used deadly chemicals, which Mr. Assad denies.

    “We hope it may be possible, if we get evidence, that those responsible for unleashing those chemical weapons should be sanctioned,” Mr. Johnson said, adding that sanctions could encompass not just Syrian officials but Russians who may have been complicit in any such attacks.

    Mr. Johnson said Moscow now has a choice to continue supporting Mr. Assad or to “work with the rest of the world towards a new political solution.” He described the Syrian regime is “an albatross around [Russia’s] neck.”


    Mr. Tillerson has said he would urge Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and other officials to rethink their support for Mr. Assad and to uphold Russia’s commitments to ensure the elimination of Syria’s chemical weapons stockpile.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/tillers...end-1491911029


    In other news…


    CNN Breaking News‏Verified account @cnnbrk 15h15 hours ago

    Russia is on the verge of taking control of a US oil company, prompting US lawmakers to warn White House. http://cnnmon.ie/2oZ7yYA

    https://twitter.com/intelcrab?lang=en

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/10/news...tgo/index.html

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


    Nikita Khrushchev: "We will bury you"
    "Your grandchildren will live under communism."
    “You Americans are so gullible.
    No, you won’t accept
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    ."
    We’ll so weaken your
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    until you’ll
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    like overripe fruit into our hands."



  17. #1777
    Postman vector7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Where it's quiet, peaceful and everyone owns guns
    Posts
    21,663
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked 73 Times in 68 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Update: Syria, NORKs, Chicoms, & Russkies

    4/10/2017 LS aka Larry Schweikart

    By way of disclaimer, I have known Steve Bannon for years and we regularly communicate in rather short bursts. So my info on the "inside Team Trump" is pretty one-sided. I don't know Jared Kushner, know OF McMaster and recommended him to Team Trump (as did Victor Davis Hanson). So I know what I know, but it's a pretty limited range of insight.

    1. The Syria strikes.
    I knew going in this would be a firestorm for Trump among his voters, especially the Ron Paul/non-interventionist backers (many of whom you see on Twitter).

    I agree with many of you that the evidence was not clear that it was Assad---indeed, it could well have been ISIS. I also agree this does not help in our fight against ISIS. I further agree that regime change is dangerous on a number of levels.

    That said, the strike was a multifaceted message, and unfortunately one that absolutely had to be sent, somewhere, somehow.

    Recall as many of you have posted, in the past two years, the Russkies have been getting extremely provocative, doing flybys of American ships, sailing into our waters, and so on. Forget who is "responsible" for Ukraine, the fact is Ukraine unloaded its nukes cuz we promised them we would protect them via NATO. Now that promise is vanishing. Our word certainly is not good from the Ukrainian perspective.

    I start Syria with Russia because at some point, somewhere, Putin had to get a message that while we want peace and want to work with him, he cannot possibly be allowed to threaten (as he already has) American ships at sea and sail in our waters. This is flat out aggression.

    It can be stopped, and nipped in the bud, but how? Consider Syria a "brush back pitch" to the Russian batter. (In baseball, when the hitter takes advantage of the plate and gets too far into the pitcher's zone, the pitcher throws one high and tight to brush him back and say, "No, you have to play by the rules.")

    I do believe Putin not only got this message, but was expecting it. He wanted to see if Trump was Obama The bad news is that it had to go on this long, but like any aggressor, the longer you wait, the bloodier it becomes to stop him. I think Putin got the message. Yes, he's making a lot of threats. But he now knows Trump will act when provoked and act DECISIVELY. Whether you agree with the strike or not, you can't accuse Trump of "indecision."

    Further, I think the brush-back pitch worked on Iran and the NORKs. Coming as it did when Xi was at dinner (indeed, I hear he was the first one to receive the news of the attack!), it was the equivalent of Trump pulling out a Colt .45 and laying it on the table and saying, "ok, Xi, let's chat." The fact that Xi apparently gave his blessing to American responses to the NORKs--in their own back yard---suggests the meeting was a 100% success. The brush back pitch was felt in China, too.

    Many here do not agree with Trump's action. Many think he was being "played." I have heard (haven't verified it) that the "vote" to fire the missiles was unanimous among the NatSec team, including Bannon. He of course would never confirm or deny, nor would I ask. But what we have from "fake" news is one story that it was Kush v Bannon, another that it was Kush/Bannon v Mattis, and a third that it was everyone agreeing.

    For the reasons I've outlined above NOT particularly relating to Syria, I believe the latter. Further, this was an opportunity to throw the brush-back pitch without civilian casualties and without a bunch of dead bodies being hauled out of a mosque. In other words, if Team Trump was looking for the "perfect" place to send a message, gas or no gas, this was it.

    2. "Chaos/Turmoil inside Team Trump" Lately the Twitter people have been going nuts against Kushner thinking he is engaging in a war on Bannon. First, if you look at the picture of the "bunker" with everyone during the strike, the two people closest to Trump are Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, right behind him. Kush is one person removed. Small things. Second, Bannon himself told me three nights ago, "I ain't goin' anywhere." I'm pretty sure that means DT said so, too. We keep missing this and missing this, but REGULARLY Team Trump throws out a piece of media "cheese" into the maze and the media rats chase it while Team Trump governs. I don't know if the Kush/Bannon "clash" is real or just cheese, but it would not surprise me if the two guys don't go get a beer every night and laugh.

    Trump's management style is much like Lincoln's: get a bunch of top, smart people who have different ideas, let them fight, come to a decision that may favor one, the other, or even neither. Don't forget businessmen do not hesitate to drop non-producers. Trump fired Lewandowski, Manafort, and his OWN BROTHER (as did Thomas Watson, Jr. at IBM!) If anyone thinks he won't dump Kush for good reason, think again. Ditto Bannon.

    3. McMaster. I vouched for McMaster as did Victor Davis Hanson. McMaster is one of the few people in the Pentagon with actual hands-on success at forming alliances with Muslims against other Muslims. He was a rebel throughout the Iraq war, which kept him from being promoted. He's exactly the type of outside-the-box thinker you want. I'm NOT concerned about his early comments on "radicals" being a minority. Folks, you will not find any commanders in the field, anywhere, saying all Muslims are terrorists. Won't happen, cuz they need locals as interpreters and most of the time as allies. Maybe personally they have different thoughts, but they cannot express those in a combat zone. I think McM's comments were typical of that battlefield thinking.

    Bannon's removal from the NSC planning group was predicted in Trump's own plans early on. Bannon was there to de-politicize it, and he has, and he still has top clearance, as you've all seen. I could be wrong, but of all the things to worry about, McM ain't one of them.

    Finally, we are in a VERY dangerous position due to Obama. If anyone thinks we could just retreat to our borders, it's way too late for that. The NORK nut could wipe out the entire west coast with a single EMP bomb over the north Pacific. Many here would say "yay," but of course that's crazy. The entire US would be set back massively, Japan would be wiped out and we'd have to retaliate big time. (I do think it's time we reconsider assassination as a policy). Zero let the Russkies run wild. We can nudge them back into their stall, but to act like they aren't out would be a mistake. And we still have to deal with Iran.

    None of this is easy, and no one will agree with any one policy. Trump was handed an absolute bag of excrement in foreign policy. I think he is trying to avoid not just one, but three wars, and we all better hope the "brush back pitch" was heeded.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3542689/posts

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


    Nikita Khrushchev: "We will bury you"
    "Your grandchildren will live under communism."
    “You Americans are so gullible.
    No, you won’t accept
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    ."
    We’ll so weaken your
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    until you’ll
    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
    like overripe fruit into our hands."



  18. #1778
    Super Moderator Malsua's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    8,020
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Paul Joseph Watson who is generally very good interviews a Rebel media reporter who has a source that says that plans are in place...

    Source: Military Strike on North Korea Coming Soon

    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt


  19. #1779
    Expatriate American Patriot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A Banana Republic, Central America
    Posts
    48,612
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Anything?
    Libertatem Prius!


    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




  20. #1780
    Creepy Ass Cracka & Site Owner Ryan Ruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    25,061
    Thanks
    52
    Thanked 78 Times in 76 Posts

    Default Re: Syria

    Caveat: Iranian news source...


    Russia Ready to Send Ground Forces to Syria

    April 24, 2017

    Syrian military sources revealed that Moscow has informed Damascus of its preparedness to dispatch ground troops to Syria.

    Al-Hadath news quoted the sources as saying that Russia has announced that in case of the Syrian army's request it is ready to send ground forces to Syria.

    The sources said that special Russian forces are prepared to be deployed in regions which are experiencing the most pressures by the terrorist groups.

    They added that the technical aspects of the plan have been studied and prepared by Russia, saying that the plan can be implemented upon Russian President Vladimir Putin's order after Damascus' official request.

    A Russian daily reported earlier this month that the country's soldiers are about to shoulder the responsibility of restoring security to the Christian-populated regions during the Syrian Army's imminent anti-terrorism operations in Northern Hama.

    Izvestia reported that the Russian units will help popular forces in Hama province to restore security to the town of Mahradeh, whose population are mainly Christians.

    The daily added that terrorists are under the Syrian Army's siege from all directions.

    There have been fierce clashes between the government forces and militants near Hahradeh since April 4th.

    Informed sources believe that the army intends to complete the siege of the terrorists in Northern Hama to clean the region up to the border with Idlib province.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 68 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 68 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •