China supplies faulty electronic parts in US military's most crucial weapons systems

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Counterfeit electronics in "America's most crucial weapons systems." Senator Carl Levin. China denies visit.

U.S. Senators staffs have asked to visit notorious China counterfeiting sites in Shenzen, but have been denied visas by the Chinese government.

And one of those Senators, Carl Levin, has stated what most in the industry have long known: counterfeit microchips and other electronics have infiltrated the U.S. most crucial weapons systems.

"Counterfeit microprocessors …were purchased by the Air Force for use on the F-15 operational flight control computers, " Levin said, adding tht counterfeit microcircuits have been found on Missile Defense Agency hardware.

The attempted trip to Shenzen, and the blunt statements come as Levin and John McCain, co-chairpersons of the Senate Armed Services Committee, continue an investigation into the infiltration of counterfeit parts in the military supply chain. This investigation coincides with a greatly heightened awareness of cyberwarfare threats, which typically exploit counterfeit, vulnerable, or sabotaged electronics.

Even if the Chinese end up granting visas to the senators, they don't want to make the investigation easy, the senators said. "The Chinese have said, 'Well, even if this could be arranged, there would have to be a Chinese official present during the interviews.' That is a nonstarter," Sen. Carl Levin. D-Michigan, said. "We do not have somebody looking at our staff while they're interviewing people who are relevant to an investigation."

The dramatic turn in the investigation comes as new warnings about cyberwarfare are issued by government and private security experts. Cited as the top security threat in 2011, cyberwarfare became shockingly visible with the success of Stuxnet virus, which hit and disabled nuclear reactors in Iran, in 2009 and 2010. (see our post)

Stuxnet showed that defective, vulnerable or sabotaged hardware can be exploited by computer viruses to wreak real, physical destruction. The problem of counterfeit, and sabotaged microchips and other electronics --and the need for anti-counterfeiting measures--has never seemed so urgent.

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Let's see...the Raptors are grounded indefinitely and Obama's answer to the J-20 and T-50 is the F-15s which are getting inferior parts from China

'Fake chips' cause fury in US Senate

wangwei posted on June 16, 2011 04:21



Two US senators are ramping up calls for an on-site investigation in China after locally produced substandard computer chips allegedly became components of advanced US weapons systems, posing a severe security concern for Washington.

However, Chinese analysts have claimed that the accusations hold little water and appear to be merely part of a conspiracy for the US army to help bargain for a bigger defense budget as well as impair Beijing.

At a press conference on Tuesday in Washington, US Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin said counterfeit electronics had “infiltrated” the Pentagon’s supply chain, including microprocessors for the F-15 fighter jet and microcircuits for US Missile Defense Agency hardware, citing a 2010 report by the Government Accountability Office.

The Armed Services Committee launched a probe back in March, during which it interviewed a range of US military contractors and consumer electronics makers. Their results “almost totally and exclusively” pointed to China, and more specifically to Shenzhen, as the source of the counterfeit electronic parts, according to Levin.

The senator said weeks had been spent trying to secure visas for investigators to visit Shenzhen for one or two days but that these efforts had been continuously rebuffed. The committee staff investigators are now in Hong Kong, and are being kept from entering Shenzhen in Guangdong Province, he said.

The committee blamed Chinese authorities for being uncooperative during the investigation into how “counterfeit” electronics had successfully been shipped into the US and installed in core military systems.

Levin was joined by Senator John McCain at the press meeting, who said both China and the US shared a common interest in stopping all counterfeiting.

China demanded that it accompany US investigators during their stay in Shenzhen, Levin claimed, but the committee refused, saying that the “pre-condition” was a “non-starter.”

The US senators, however, did not finger any Chinese firm for the counterfeiting charges.

The latest case saw a federal court try Shannon Wren and Stephanie McCloskey of a company called VisionTech in September 2010 for selling more than 10,000 counterfeit computer chips to the US Navy and its weapons contractors, according to The Washington Post.

The integrated circuits were knockoffs made in China, with fake chips potentially “putting lives and property at risk” by being defective or containing “electronic Trojan horses” that would allow hackers to disable them or track their use, according to the indictment.

US Commerce Department figures reveal that the number of counterfeit incidents discovered by the US military and its suppliers more than doubled, between 2005 to 2008, to 9,356 cases, The Washington Post reported.

The demand for chips and circuit-boards in weapons, vehicles and communications systems in the US has surged as it fights wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which has left its armed services vulnerable to fakes, the paper said.

Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor with the People’s Liberation Army University of National Defense, told the Global Times that both China and the US “are very prudent when trading arms with each other, as this requires approval from the defense ministries.”

The US failed in its procurement inspections, and it would not be fair to instantly blame China, Zhang said.

“Even if the US military signed a contract directly with any foreign producers, investigations must follow relevant trade procedures. The US Senate Arms Service Committee is not supposed to launch a probe into another sovereign country,” Zhang said.

Song Xiaojun, a Beijing-based military expert, told the Global Times that the committee’s targeting of the Chinese government may have a simpler purpose, namely finding evidence to derail a proposed military budget cut.

“The main purpose is to obtain concrete proof that Chinese suppliers are manufacturing substandard products for the US military, and then return with a more powerful say in opposing the military budget reductions,” Song said.

Nonetheless, the US will maintain its reliance on overseas manufacturers for computer chips as the US has almost abandoned the chips manufacturing industry, Song said.

A US House of Representatives subcommittee passed a fiscal defense budget of $530 billion for 2012, $170 billion less than for the current fiscal year.

A Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said yesterday that they did not possess any relevant information while Reuters reported that the Chinese Embassy in the US did not respond to an inquiry regarding the senators’ remarks.

Huang Jingjing and agencies contributed to this story

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US senators accuse PRC of hampering investigation

AFP, Washington

Two US senators on Tuesday accused China of hampering a congressional probe into how counterfeit electronics end up in the US military supply chain by denying entry visas to investigators.

“I can’t say that I’m surprised, but I surely am disappointed and it’s not in their interest,� Democratic Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin told reporters. “I am disappointed that they don’t see that.�

“The United States and China are not destined to be adversaries. We have overlapping interests and this is actually one of them,� said Senator John McCain, the top Republican on Levin’s panel.

The senators also said China had required that government minders attend any interviews conducted in China as part of the investigation, which was announced in March, but agreed that request was a “non-starter.�

Levin and McCain said that they had worked for weeks to get entry visas for staff to visit Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, which they described as the epicenter of the fake parts trade based on US government reports.

“We are not confirming guilt or innocence, but there are sufficient allegations,� said McCain, who warned that what was at stake was “the ability of this country to defend itself with weapons systems that it can rely on.�

US defense contractors and component distributors “almost totally and exclusively point to China, specifically the city of Shenzhen in Guangdong Province, as a source of counterfeit electronic parts,� Levin said.

The Democrat said the investigators would meet with the US consul general in Hong Kong early yesterday as part of a last-ditch attempt to secure the necessary visas for what he said would be a one or two-day visit.

“Our staff has been told that the trade in counterfeit electronic parts takes place openly in that city and in that province, and they plan to travel to that city to make a firsthand assessment,� Levin said.

Wang Baodong (王寶東), a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington, said the issue “involves law enforcement and China’s judicial sovereignty, which should be respected.â€�

“We’ve been telling the congressmen’s offices that such issues are supposed to be raised through the normal channel of China-US law enforcement cooperation and we’re ready to stay in touch with the US side,� Wang said.

McCain, asked what would happen if Beijing continues to block the trip, said: “I would guess that we will then complain about it, but then also we’ll seek further investigation on this issue.�

He noted that a report last year by the Government Accountability Office — the US Congress’ investigative arm — on the issue “didn’t get Chinese cooperation.�

Levin said that report found that counterfeit electronics had “infiltrated� the Pentagon’s supply chain, including microprocessors for the F-15 fighter jet and microcircuits for US Missile Defense Agency hardware.

Levin also pointed to a US Department of Commerce report in January last year that surveyed 400 companies that “overwhelmingly cited China� as the source for counterfeit electronics.

“It should be in China’s interest not to have counterfeiting of these electronic parts going on, because it would harm legitimate Chinese companies as well,� McCain said.

“So I hope that the Chinese will recognize that this is in both countries’ interests to track down allegations that have been made,� he added.

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China's perspective...

China harmed Weapons parts: American friends had this to say!

At 10:52 on June 20, 2011



China's government is refusing to assist Senate investigators probing Chinese firms that are selling counterfeit parts that have been found in high-tech U.S. weapons systems, the leaders of the Senate Armed Services Committee said Tuesday.

Committee Chairman Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat, and Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, told reporters that a panel investigation revealed that U.S. defense contractors and government agencies traced the sources of most fake defense parts to Shenzhen, in Guangdong province near Hong Kong.

参议院军事委员会领导人在周二说道，中国政府日前拒绝了美国参议院调查员关于协助调查美国高科技武器系统中 来自中国公司制造的假冒零部件事项。
参议院军事委员会委员会主席Carl Levin以及亚利桑那共合体民主党员Sen. John McCain 告诉记者，最近一次调查显示， 美国国防工事承包人和政府代理人追踪发现大多数假冒伪劣的国防体系部件都产自深圳市-----广东省一个靠近香港的城市。

China has rejected requests for committee staff to visit Shenzhen as part of the probe, Mr. Levin said, noting that investigators are meeting with U.S. officials in Hong Kong to seek help.

“The Chinese have said, well, even if this could be arranged, there would have to be a Chinese official present during the interviews,� Mr. Levin said.

“That is a non-starter, somebody looking at our staff while they’re interviewing people who are relevant to an investigation.�

Trade in counterfeit parts “takes place openly in that city and in that province,� Mr. Levin said.

Mr. McCain said he hopes the Chinese will assist in the staff investigation.

中国已经拒绝了参议院军事委员会提出的来深圳调查的请求。Levin说， 调查员目前正在香港与美国官员见面以寻求帮助。他同时说道：中国曾表示，就算这个请求能通过，也应该是由中 国官员介入调查。Levin说，这个提议毫无价 值，我无法容忍当我们的工作人员在采访相关人员的时候还有人在监视我们。尤其难以置信的是，假冒零部件的贸 易在那个城市和省份完全是公开的。

McCain也表示，他希望中国能协助这次调查。

A report by the Government Accountability Office published in March 2010 stated that the global supplier network used by the Pentagon provides 4 million parts worth $94 billion.

The parts include fasteners used on aircraft, missile guidance electronics, materials used in body armor and engine mounts.

“Counterfeit parts have the potential to cause a serious disruption to DOD supply chains, delay ongoing missions, and even affect the integrity of weapon systems,� the report said.

一份政府问责办公室2010年3月的报告指出五角大楼使用的全球供应商提供的产品达到四百万个零部件，总价 值九百二十亿美元。其中也包括了在飞机上 使用的紧固器、飞弹导航电子设备。防弹衣原材料和引擎装置。仿冒零部件将对美国国防部的供应链造成严重的污 染，延缓导弹研发进程，甚至会影响整个武器系统 的完整性。
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It noted that the problem is not limited to weapons systems but includes the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the Energy Department, along with private-sector producers of software, commercial aviation, automotive parts and consumer electronics and “can threaten the safety of consumers.�

Mr. Levin said counterfeit parts that have “infiltrated� the defense supply chain include microprocessors bought by the Air Force for F-15 operational flight-control computers. Counterfeit microcircuits also were found on hardware of the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency.

“In January of 2010, the Commerce Department published the results of a survey of almost 400 companies and organizations in the Department of Defense’s supply chain,� Mr. Levin said.

“Those who were surveyed overwhelmingly cited China as the country suspected of being the source of the counterfeit electronic parts.�

报告同时还指出，整个问题将不仅仅影响武器系统，还将影响到美国国家航空航天局（NASA）和能源部门。甚 至可以影响私营软件生产商、商业航空业、汽车制造业和家用电器业消费者的安全。
Levin说道，混入国防供应链的假冒伪劣零件包括了F-15战斗机上飞行控制计算机的微处理器。五角大楼的导弹防御局使用的一些硬件上也发现了部分仿冒微 型电路。
2010年1月的时候，商业部发表了一份对近400家参与国防部供应的公司和组织的调查报告。这些被调查的 公司绝大部分认为中国是出口仿冒电子零件的最大嫌疑国。

Dale Meyerrose, a specialist with Harris Cyber Integrated Solutions, said the senators’ concerns are justified because threats to critical infrastructure from compromised supply chains are serious and endanger national security and public safety.

“Motivations behind these threats range from the criminally opportunistic driven by profit and greed to state-sponsored seeking an asymmetric advantage over our often superior military or industry entities,� he said.

Chinese officials this month criticized pending U.S. legislation that would continue a ban on Chinese military companies from bidding on U.S. weapons programs.

They told the state-run Xinhua News Agency that the measure is inconsistent with international trade rules and “a distorted reaction arising from U.S. wariness and bias about China’s growing national strength.�
“It shows that the United States worries that China is challenging its global hegemonic status,� the June 2 article said.

一名哈里斯数码联合方案解决公司的专家Dale Meyerrose说道，参议员们的顾虑不无道理，因为从被污染的供应链中生产出来的一些重大基础工程将会 威胁甚至严重危及到国家稳定和公共安全。 促使这些威胁形成的原因有从被利益驱使的投机犯罪者到某些国家支持的对美国先进军事优势的暗中 破坏不等。
中国官员也在这个月批评美国根据以往的法规将继续禁止中国军方公司对美国武器的出价。他们告诉新华社这个举 措是与国际贸易条约不符的，并且这是美国对中国持续增长的国力的一种偏见和反常反应。这篇新华社6月2日的 报道也指出这表明美国担心中国正在挑战其霸权地位。

The House bill changes language from legislation enacted in 2006 blocking Chinese military companies from contracts by altering provisions that would allow the defense secretary to provide a waiver of the ban if a Chinese company’s products were needed to support U.S. national security.

Chinese Embassy spokesman Wang Baodong said travel to Shenzhen by committee investigators was a law enforcement question and a matter of “ China ’s judicial sovereignty, which should be respected.�

“We’ve been telling the congressmen’s offices that such issues are supposed to be raised through the normal channel of China -U.S. law enforcement cooperation, and we’re ready to stay in touch with the U.S. side,� Mr. Wang said in an email.

从2006年开始实施的反中国军方公司的货代提单相关法规已经进一步松动，如果中国公司确实有需要在美国国 家安全项目中扮演相关角色的话，这可能将允许国防部长提供一份放弃对中国公司的禁止行为的说明 书。
中国大使馆发言人王宝东说关于委员会前往深圳的调查行动关系到中国的法律自主权问题，中国的法律主权必须得 到尊重。
王宝东同时在一封电子邮件里写到，我们已经告知美国众议院办公室，这件事情应该通过正常的中美法律合作途径 来解决，我们将随时保持联系。
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peterroach
This insane idea of not using domestically made parts for critical defense systems is now reaping its reward. Are we really sure that a a plane might crash or a missile explode if we face an emergency with China ? Thanks
Weiners


谁想出的这个疯点子，最重要的国防系统部件竟然不是用国内自己生产的，现在好玩了不是。等我们和中国开战的 时候真的能确定不会有一架飞机或者一枚导 弹会因此突然报废？感谢韦纳们（译者注，斯科特·韦纳是一名美国政客，现就职于旧金山市监事会，旧金山第 八区代表，可能是这名网友反对的政客）


Illy Bongo Rockets
Why would the U.S. use parts from China in a domestic weapon (system) anyway? This is beyond believable. The race to the bottom even includes the weapons that are supposed to protect the country's ability to focus on the race to the bottom to begin with? The more I hear about what is many times allowed in the country, the more I ask...WHO IS RUNNING THIS PLACE?


不管怎么说，美国为什么会在国内的武器系统里使用中国生产的部件？这简直太难以置信了。这种突破道德底线的 价格竞争战甚至包括了本应用来保护这个国 家的武器？听到关于突破这个国家道德容忍底限的事情越多，我越想问：到底谁在管事？？？（译者注，此处为易 于理解译成“突破道德底线的价格竞争战â€�原文为 race to the bottom，正统释义应为“竞次â€�。竞次的定义如下：全球化时代，国家在经济竞争中获取竞争优势 的办法大致有两种，一种是加大经济活动中的科技、教育投 入，在增加本国人民福利的情况下，提高经济活动的生产 率，而另外一种相反的办法则是，以剥夺本国劳动阶层的各种劳动保障，人为压低他们的工资，放任自然环境的损 害为代价，从而赢得竞争中的价格优势。后一种办 法被形象地称之为竞次(race to the bottom)，即打到底线的竞争。顾名思义，在竞次的游戏中，比的不是谁更优秀，谁投入了更多的科技，更 多的教育，而是比谁更次，更糟糕、更能够苛待本 国的劳动阶层，更能够容忍本国环境的破坏，一句话，是比谁更有能力向人类文明的底线退化。以竞次手段所获得 的所谓竞争力，其内里是一个民族向道德野蛮状态 的复归。）


ItWorksInTheory
Why in the hell would we use parts made by China in any weapon system, ever? They have declared time and time again how much they want to fight us. They tied their economic system to ours in hopes of leveraging that power against us, they are constantly and relentlessly hacking into our systems, they declared that an attack on Pakistan was an attack on China two days after Bin Laden was taken out. They constantly attack our ships and planes and push around their neighbors. They supply our enemies. They are our enemies.

They.
Are.
Our.
Enemies.

ohmama
That thought crossed my mind too, but the article does not state if defense parts are actually supposed to be made in China or the US out of 400 defense contractors.

You would think common sense would dictate that US military parts ONLY be made in the US. If the Defense Dept. is knowingly allowing US defense parts to be made in China, that's only asking for trouble.

ItWorksInTheory
They've all been horrible. Clinton was pretty heavily involved too. Then there was the money man they caught two years ago donating to campaigns with Chinese backed money.

They're naive or terminally stupid if they think these clowns have anything but bad intentions towards us.

Actions. Deeds. By those, these parasites are guilty.

Then there is our government. It's hard not to see such a pattern of stunning incompetence as proof of a greater conspiracy, but in a world where they just HATE it if you record them and are consistently caught lying time and again on camera or audio while the unelected and the unaccountable send in SWAT for a civil matter, and funnel trillions on some over-arching bill done through back-room dealings that ties health care to the IRS (!!!?) I'm starting to think this collapse is being engineered.
"Never let a crisis go to waste."

bkw140
The U.S. now lacks the capacity to manufacture critical parts for the high technology weapons. For example, the only U.S. manufacturer of rare earth magnets needed for GPS system was sold to the Chinese with approval from the Clinton Admin on the promise they would not move the facility to China.

The Chinese moved the facility to China after Bush took office. The Bush Admin did nothing.
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Paul
That is due to China holding 98% of the world's supply of rare earth minerals. China is hoarding the supplies to have a monopoly on anything to do with electrical generation or communication. Check it out for yourself.

Cv King
Yep, and we've wasted a chance to get more by putting around in Low Earth Orbit instead of exploring for extra-terrestrial sources.

ItWorksInTheory
We have our own supply as well. It's tooling up from what I've read. EPA regulations are choking us to death.

eddyjames
We have a large mine here in the US that has rare earth minerals. WE should be using it.

Checkmoot
I wonder where you are getting your news. I haven't read about any attacks by China on our planes or ships. Could you cite the source, or are you the source ??

我们到底TMD为什么要用任何一个中国制造的武器系统？他们已经说了不知道多少次要和我们干架了。他们把他 们的经济系统搭钩在我们身上，想借着这样 的杠杆作用来对抗我们，他们锲而不舍地黑我们的网络，他们在本拉登被抓住两天后宣称对巴基斯坦的进攻就是对 中国的进攻！他们持续不断地攻击我们的轮船和飞 机，把邻国随意摆弄。他们在供给支援我们的敌人，他们就是我们的敌人！！！
他们！！就是！！我们的！！敌人！！！！（注：此条为全文支持率最高的一条回复，得到了170 +的支持）
一楼ohmama回复楼主： 我也这么想过，不过这篇文章并没有说国防部件是不是真的由中国制造还是是由那400多个美国承包商制造的。 你应该用常识去想想，美国军事部件只可能由美国制造，如果国防部二到去让中国做这些部件，那只能是自寻烦恼 。
楼主ItWorksInTheory 回一楼：他们（国防部）一直这么讨厌，克林顿在里面肯定脱不了干系。两年前他们就有个金融家因为利用中国拖 欠款支持竞选而被捕。他们就是一帮二货，整天不 干好事，说的比唱的还好听，这帮寄生虫真是罪孽深重！这就是我们的政府。不难发现他们是如此令人震惊的无能 ，简直无能到成为一种伟大的叛国行为! &*%$%&*&*^%$（后面各种骂，就不翻译了）
我甚至开始怀疑美国如今的衰退是早已被他们计划好的。
“永远不要让一个危机浪费â€�（译者注：此句引用美国政治家，现任白宫幕僚长拉姆·伊曼纽尔的名言 ，此人也曾是比尔·克林顿任内的高级顾问）
二楼bkw140 回复楼主：美国现在缺少制造高科技武器中重要部件的能力。打个比方，美国唯一的稀土磁铁（用于GPS系统） 生产商被卖给了中国，克林顿亲手签了这个合同， 唯一的要求只是保证工厂和设备不会移到中国。然后中国在布什上台后就把设备全移到中国去了，布什啥也没说â €¦â€¦
三楼Paul 回复二楼：这是因为中国掌握着全球98%的稀土供应，中国贮藏这些原材料形成垄断以此与别国进行谈判交易。 回去多读点书吧你。
四楼Cv King 回复三楼：是的，此外我们还浪费了通过低地球轨道航天系统（LEO）得到更多地外资源的机会
楼主ItWorksInTheory回复四楼：我们也有我们自己的供应商，我从书上看的。可是美国环境保护 局（EPA）正在把我们搞死。
五楼eddyjames 回复二楼：我们美国有大量的矿藏富含稀土，我们得利用起来
六楼Checkmoot 回复楼主：我在想你是从哪得到的新闻，我从来没听说过中国有攻击过美国任何一艘船或飞机，你能不能写一下出 处？或者你就是这新闻的出处？

TyroneJ
"Why in the hell would we use parts made by China in any weapon system, ever?"

Simple. Because the parts, even when bought from American companies, are manufactured in China. This is especially true of electronics. Do you think Apple is the only American company that has their entire product line made for them by Foxconn and other Chinese manufacturers? Remember, Apple does not make any hardware itself whatsoever.

Boeing, for example, has a factory in China. It's called Boeing Tianjin Composites, a joint venture between Boeing and China Aviation Industry Corp. Most integrated circuits are made in Asia these days. If not in China, then in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan or Korea. But overwhelmingly in China.

The bottom line is that thanks to the trend over the last 30 years to have Bean Counters run US companies, has lead to the outsourcing of almost all US manufacturing capability.

Cv King
The effect of 30 years of Corporate Treason is that we now rely on our enemy to make our weapons. Nice.

ItWorksInTheory
I know the reasons. It was more of an incredulous statement. How suicidal are we as a country? Didn't Mark Twain once write about corporations and their "patriotism"?
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Jesse P.S
It is sad. Soon enough the outsourced jobs that were sent over seas will be outsourced from Asia back to the US.

TyroneJ ：“我们到底TMD为什么要用任何一个中国制造的武器系统？â€�（引用前面那位楼主的一 句话）
很简单，因为就算这些部分是从美国公司买的，但其实还是在中国生产的。尤其是电子产品。你认为苹果公司是唯 一一家把全部生产线都给富士康和别的中国公司做的美国公司吗？别忘了，苹果不生产任何硬件。
再举个例子，波音公司，他们在中国有个工厂，叫做天津波音复合材料有限公司，这是一家波音和中航的合资公司 。如今绝大多数的整合电路都产自亚洲，如果不在中国，就在台湾，新加坡，马来西亚，日本或者韩 国。
我们得感谢30年来那些无所事事满脑子装shi的美国公司老总们。是他们把美国几乎所有的生产 都外包掉了。
一楼 Cv King 回复楼主:30年来的外包大潮带来的效果就是我们现在得靠我们的敌人来造自己的武器，很好~（译者注：此处 指的的外包大潮原文为Corporate Treason，指20世纪70年代末至80年代，美国汽车公司为了和日本汽车竞争而将生产移往发展中国家 ，以寻求价格优势的一个潮流）
二楼前面那位楼主ItWorksInTheory 回复此楼主：我知道原因，这早已不是一个可以值得相信的国家，这个国家到底有多严重的自杀倾向啊？马克吐温 难道没有写过一本关于公司和爱国主义相关的书吗？
三楼Jesse P.S 回复楼主：这真悲伤，用不了多久这些外包工作就会被送回美国，到时候我们就成了为亚洲干外包工 作的国家了。

sirock
It's time to stop buying Chinese period. Their is no free trade they buy nothing from us unless they wish to steal the technology, so Tarifs taxes and boycotts need to stop these Asian Enemies. They steal our technology, Support every as5 who hates us and have plans to rule the world. CUT THEM OFF

sirock：是时候停止买中国货了，没什么公平贸易一说，他们没有在我们这买任何东西，除非把他们从我们 这偷的科技算上。所以提高关税加强抵制吧。我们要阻止这些亚洲敌人。他们偷我们的科技，支持每一个讨厌我们 的国家，还打算统治世界。搞死他们，斩草除根！


ohmama
But then our nations brightest invites the Chinese to tour our most sensitive military bases in the US. Yeah, that's real smart, too!

ohmama ：我们的国民接下来还要一脸灿烂地邀请中国人来我们的军事基地参观游览一番吧，真是个好主意~

Slagathor_Likes_Pie
Clinton and Gore sold us to China long ago for re-election money.

Slagathor_Likes_Pie：克林顿和戈尔为了再选的钱很久以前就已经把我们卖给中国了~（译 者注：艾伯特·阿诺·戈尔，曾于1993年至2001年间在比尔·克林顿掌政时担任美国第四十五任副 总统。）

4th Party Voter
It began under Clinton, accelerated under Bush, and is cruising along under Obama. China is clearly not a Democratic or Republican problem, it is an American problem.

4th Party Voter 回复楼上：这事在克林顿时期开始，在布什时期加快速度，在奥巴马时期达到巅峰。中国很显然不是一个民主党还 是共和党的问题，而是一个美国人的问题。
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im Guelde America.. once the Arsenal of Democracy is now dependent upon red china for everything from drywall to circuit boards. We will pay dearly for our greed one day.

Jim Guelde ：美国，曾经的民主国家兵工厂，现在从干式墙到电路板，什么都得依靠红色中国。总有一天我们要为自己的贪婪 付出昂贵的代价。

Jeff Shaginaw
The U.S. military relies on parts purchased from Chinese manufacturers?
I ask again...

The U.S. military relies on parts purchased from Chinese manufacturers?
Once more...

The U.S. military relies on parts purchased from Chinese manufacturers?
And people wonder why our country is in decline.

Jeff Shaginaw ：美国的军事得靠买中国产的零件？我再问一次，美国的军事得靠买中国产的零件？我再再问一次，美国的军事得 靠买中国产的零件？好吧，现在人们知道为什么我们的国家在衰退了。

Jimmy
They buy very little from us but we give them the technology secrets and our jobs so they can make cheaper inferior parts to sell back to us at high prices. Can we get anymore insane?

Jimmy ：他们从我们这买很少的东西，可我们给了他们技术机密和我们的工作岗位。所以他们能做出更便宜更好的零件， 再用高价卖回给我们。我们还能再二点不？

DONBALTIMORE
This is as crazy as it gets..... well maybe not... but it is very insane. Move that work back to the US. Yes China is our enemy. They do everything they can to cause problems for us. They want us to fall.

DONBALTIMORE ：这简直疯狂透了，好吧，可能还没透，但这还是很疯狂啊啊啊。把那些工作还给美国吧，是的，中国是我们的敌 人。他们用尽一切办法来给我们找麻烦，说白了他们就想看着我们挂掉。
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[vector7]

U.S. Senators Accuse Chinese Regime for Hampering Military Parts Probe

2011-06-17 08:37



The United States Senate Armed Services Committee wants to conduct independent investigations in China. That’s after a 2010 report revealed that counterfeit electronics are being found in the U.S. military’s supply chain. The Chinese regime has so far declined to issue visas to U.S. investigators to travel to the mainland.

Democratic Senator, and Chairman of the Armed Service Committee Carl Levin expressed his disappointed at the Chinese regime’s response. The most senior Republican on the panel, John McCain says an investigation into counterfeit electronics is also in the interest of China.

The allegations surfaced last year in a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office. Levin says U.S. companies have pointed out the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen as the source of fake electronic parts.

In a press conference this week, the Senators said that investigators had traveled to Hong Kong. They were hoping to get visas to travel to the mainland to carry out an unrestricted investigation. But the Chinese regime rejected that request, stating that Chinese officials would have to be present during any interviews. The U.S. senators say that’s a “non-starter.�

The 2010 U.S. government report says counterfeit electronic parts had “infiltrated� the Pentagon’s supply chain. These include microprocessors for the F-15 fighter jet and microcircuits for U.S. Missile Defense Agency hardware.

[catfish]

Why am I not suprised that we have Chinese microchips in our weapons systems.

[Toad]

/Headsmack.

This is why you support American industry or at least vet the holy hell out of vendors fror critical systems and QC them constantly.

[Backstop]

There was a thread - maybe 3 or 4 yrs ago, and maybe here on TAA.

But someone (maybe me) found a GAO report about this, and it was damning.

Tried to find the thread or post the other day, but had no luck.

[Ryan Ruck]

Not this thread was it?

http://www.transasianaxis.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4658

[Backstop]

Thanks Ryan.

I looked at that during my search - and it isn't it.

I'm almost positive I posted an article from the GAO, that provided specific numbers from their investigation.

Maybe I posted it on another Board.

[Toad]

Thanks Ryan.

I looked at that during my search - and it isn't it.

....

Maybe I posted it on another Board.

Huffington?




JUST KIDDING!!!!

[catfish]

Huffington?




JUST KIDDING!!!!

Lmao, good one! I think I lasted about a week over there before I was perma-banned.

[Backstop]

Huffington?




JUST KIDDING!!!!

[vector7]

U.S. GOA: 40 Percent of Defense Supply Chain Damaged by Chinese Parts

Jason Mick - June 17, 2011 2:00 PM

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On the battlefield, defective parts can cost soldiers' lives. Reportedly 40 percent of the U.S. supply chain is damaged by counterfeit or defective parts, mostly from China. (Source: Defense Talk)

Using China-manufactured hardware could also offer a convenient route for espionage on core U.S. systems. The DOD continues to use Chinese parts, though because they're cheap. (Source: Military Factory)

China is blocking U.S. inspectors from entering Shenzhen, a manufacturing metropolis that is suspected as a source of many of the counterfeit parts. (Source: Beijing Torch Relay)

Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) says not to wholly blame the Chinese, but to look at our own nation's decisions as well. He states, "It's easy to blame the Chinese for this. Just like it's easy to blame the Chinese for taking our jobs and shutting down American manufacturing plants. But we're letting this happen. And the Department of Defense needs to pay way more attention to its whole supply chain." (Source: AP Photo)
Fake parts are compromising national security, costing Americans jobs

The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), the audit, evaluation, and investigative arm of the U.S. Congress has been busy investigating reports of fake and/or damaged parts in the U.S. supply chain. It has released its preliminary findings [press release] and they may come as a shock to some -- though perhaps not so much for others.

I. A Huge Problem

The GAO claims that 40 percent of the U.S. Department of Defense's supply chain is adversely impacted by fake or defective parts. From missiles, to rifles, to vehicles, problems abound. The common thread, says the GAO, is that virtually all the suspect parts originated from contractors in China.

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency in 2010 seized 19,959 loads of suspected counterfeit parts and materials valued at approximately $1.4B USD. That's a 39 percent rise from 2009. ICE also reports dealing with 2,000 intellectual property abuse claims last year, which resulted 365 arrests, 216 indictments and 170 convictions.

The Defense Criminal Investigative Service (DCIS), under the auspice of the Defense Department Inspector, has its hands full as well. It is currently actively probing 45 reports of counterfeit parts and 200 allegations of substandard or non-conforming parts.

As mentioned, most of these parts come from China.

Particularly troublesome are reports of counterfeit computer chips. Deputy Defense Secretary Bill Lynn admitted to the magazine Foreign Affairs last year that, "[A]lready, counterfeit hardware has been detected in systems that the DOD has procured."

The report is troubling as it not only endangers national security through failures, but could be a possible route to espionage attempts as well.

The GAO report describes counterfeit seatbelt clasps delivered for Army vehicles, fake computer routers delivered to the Navy, and Air Force microprocessors that were also counterfeit.

The DCIS investigation head James Ives cited an incident in which a Texan in January 2010 was found guilty of selling counterfeit Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO) "Gigabit Interface Converters" to the Marine Corps for use in Iraq. Bought from a Hong Kong-based Chinese vendor, the contractor obtained the systems for $25 USD a piece and resold 200 of them to the Marines for $595 a piece -- for a total of $114,000 USD in profit before applicable taxes.

II. Life and Death

In the field of defense small changes can make the difference between life and death. While the failure of a graphics card or a smart phone due to subpar counterfeit parts might be disappointing, the failure of a jet fighter CPU or a soldier's machine gun could be deadly.

Over the last couple decades U.S. companies have increasingly turned to China to provide for their supply chain. It's hard to resist -- the Chinese offer cheaper labor, parts, and assembly than anywhere else in the world and their workers are moderately skilled.

However, there are serious problems from a culture of corruption and corner cutting with the Asian giant. In July 2007 China executed the nation's former top drug regulator after he was found taking bribes to allow counterfeit products that resulted in deaths. The U.S. has experienced this problem first hand, in recalls of children's toys that were found to contain toxic levels of brain-damaging lead.

And most recently China's high speed train efforts were derailed when they found contractors to be using substandard materials and dangerous cheap fillers. As a result, China was forced to slow its world-leading trains to a pace slower than its foreign competitors.

All of these are telltale signs of a bigger problems looming over the Chinese manufacturing agency. Chinese labor may be cheap. But it's prone to espionage, defects, counterfeiting, and substandard materials.

Ultimate the U.S. Department of Defense has a budget to maintain, though, and at the end of the day it's made the same decision many U.S. companies have -- take the risk of using Chinese parts.

III. China Refuses to Cooperate with GAO

According to the GAO report, most of the counterfeit parts are coming from Shenzhen, a major manufacturing center in China's sea-facing southern Guangdong province.

Some may recognize Shenzhen as the home of Hon Hai Precision Industry Co Ltd. (2317) subsidiary Foxconn's massive "city" plant where over 200,000 employees toil assembling products for Apple Inc. (AAPL) and other manufacturers. The plant gained international attention last year after a string of suicides [1][2][3] highlighted poor working conditions at the company's Chinese plant [1][2].

The GAO has sent inspectors to investigate in Shenzhen. However, they've met a roadblock -- the Chinese government learned of this plan and moved to block the investigators' effort to gain visas. The Chinese government demanded the U.S. inspectors postpone their trip.

U.S. Senator Scott Brown (R-Mass.), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and former National Guard Member, blasted the decision in an interview [video] with CNN. But he puts most of the blame on the American government and the DOD for allowing this behavior.

He states, "It's easy to blame the Chinese for this. Just like it's easy to blame the Chinese for taking our jobs and shutting down American manufacturing plants. But we're letting this happen. And the Department of Defense needs to pay way more attention to its whole supply chain."

He says that the cost cutting not only costs "America's jobs", but also "national security", as well.

"If we're using American taxpayer dollars to buy these goods, you better make sure they're American made, you better make sure they're safe, you better make sure you're doing this right," he opines, "If not, you're not contracting with us any more."

Unfortunately Sen. Brown's rhetoric seems far from the DOD's real world daily actions.

[Ryan Ruck]

At 40% (which is astounding), I wonder if the F-22 grounding is tied to this.

[American Patriot]

This REALLY pisses me off.

I've been bitching about this shit for years.

Now it's going to bite us in the ass.

[vector7]

These Fake Chinese Microchips Were Made To Disarm U.S. Missiles

Robert Johnson | Jun. 27, 2011, 9:22 AM | 5,299 | 43

Image: fox o'ryan via flickr

Last year, the U.S. Navy bought 59,000 microchips for use in everything from missiles to transponders that turned out to be counterfeits from China. Wired reports the chips weren't only low-quality fakes, they had been made with a "back-door" and could have been remotely shut down at any time.

If left undiscovered the result could have rendered useless U.S. missiles and killed the signal from aircraft that tells everyone whether it's friend or foe.

Apparently foreign chip makers are often better at making cheap microchips and U.S. defense contractors are loathe to pass up the better deal.

The problem remains with these "trojan-horse" circuits that can be built into the chip and are almost impossible to detect -- especially without the original plans to compare them to.

The Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Agency (IARPA) is now looking for ways to check the chips to make sure they haven't been hacked in the production process.

Expect to see a whole lot more funding directed to this goal. Or, considering IARPA is the research and development section of the intelligence community -- expect the money to be spent -- don't expect to see where.

[Ryan Ruck]

What a lot of people, I think, are missing here is that it doesn't have to be a system as crucial as an arming/disarming circuit, or engine control, etc. These chips could be hidden in any number of subsystems and go completely undetected.

Imagine if a Navy ship has its GPS system or communication system shut down because of one of these Trojan chips? How effective of a war fighter would it be then? Or maybe something as simple as a fire (as in flames) control system so that a fire suppression system doesn't activate after the ship is hit by fire (as in rounds)?

Or what about in the case of fighter and bomber aircraft where one of these Trojan chips causes the refueling probe to not deploy when the aircrew is counting on a refuel and are miles away from an airstrip? You've just downed that aircraft just as effectively as if you had hit it with a missile.

[American Patriot]

This is a Y2K scenario without the date issue, Ryan.

I don't think people are missing it, I think folks in the government are jumping through their asses now.

This pisses me off to no END. The wasted money on things like planting fucking trees in a god damned high desert, and trying to grow grass, wasting water to make it look pretty, putting up expensive, fancy art work for "executive offices" and other things I see DAILY are starting to really torque me off.

[vector7]

How many of these parts found their way in our systems before someone stumbled upon this revelation?