Xi-sub-b discovered (ok, a new particle)

**American Patriot** · July 21st, 2011, 19:58

Fermilab Scientists Discover New Particle

Wolfgang Gruener in Science & Research on July 20

Tags: Fermilab, research

Fermilab today announced that scientists working at the CDF (Collision Detector at Fermilab) experiment confirmed the observation of a new particle, the Xi-sub-b.

Fermilab collision detector at CDF - (c) ConceivablyTech

The Xi-sub-b is categorized as are baryon, which are formed of three quarks. Commonly known baryons include the proton ( two up quarks and one down quark) as well as the neutron (two down quarks and one up quark). The existence of the Xi-sub-b has been predicted for some time, but it has been observed for the very first time just recently. It is described as a heavy relative of the neutron and is six times heavier than the proton or neutron. Conclusively, it is a member of the bottom baryons.

Fermilab's Tevatron: The CDF is the red building on left. - (c) ConceivablyTech

The Xi-sub-b was produced at the Tevatron particle accelerator and collider, which integrates the CDF experiment, in Batavia, Illinois. the scientists noted that the Tevatron is not a dedicated bottom quark “factpory.” However “trillions of proton-antiproton collisions have made it a haven for discovering and studying almost all of the known bottom baryons.” Experiments at the Tevatron discovered the Sigma-sub-b baryons in 2006, the Xi-b-minus baryon in 2007, and the Omega-sub-b baryon in 2009. The lightest bottom baryon, the Lambda-sub-b, was discovered at CERN.
According to the scientists, the neutral Xi-sub-b travels just a fraction of a millimeter before it decays into lighter particles. the Xi-sub-b was observed in 25 instances among almost 500 trillion proton-antiproton collisions.

**Malsua** · July 21st, 2011, 20:02

Well, if it only travels less than a millimeter...what good is it?

**American Patriot** · July 21st, 2011, 20:05

You can measure a millimeter accurately?

/chuckles

It isn't Titor's microsingularities, that's the only reason I reported it.

lol

**Malsua** · July 21st, 2011, 20:20

Interestingly enough...

Off topic, sorta kinda but related.

Watch this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o

Put it in the context of Titor and it's all possible.

Specifically, because the 10th dimension exists, Titor exists and ever possible conceivable way shape or form of it, exists. It's mind blowing if you can wrap your head around it.

**American Patriot** · July 22nd, 2011, 00:15

Originally Posted by Malsua

Specifically, because the 10th dimension exists, Titor exists and ever possible conceivable way shape or form of it, exists. It's mind blowing if you can wrap your head around it.

Ok... I'll go with the flow.

He does. Just not in OUR dimension here, with us, at the time we "knew him".

**American Patriot** · July 25th, 2011, 18:52

Like Peterle stated, the particles must "exist" in some form already.

The atom smashers actually "produce" rather than "create" the particles from slamming atoms, electrons etc together at extremely high voltages in the bev range.

(A Bev is a BILLION electron Volts or 1.602 * 10 ^-19 power)

Wiki has more information if you want to read on what a BEV is or how it is defined.

**American Patriot** · July 25th, 2011, 19:21

Sorry...

I made a mistake up there. 1 ev is 1.602 * 10 ^-19, not a billion.

Take that times a billion. lol

**Malsua** · July 25th, 2011, 19:33

I'm not sure that these particles aren't being conjured into existence for the first time.

The rules of the universe clearly make them possible but they don't exist in nature and I'm not sure that conditions were even right for them to come along during the big bang.

It may be that the only way to get these particles into creation is to slam atoms like this, together like this, exactly this way, being observed just like this.

Collapsing waves of probability that result in these particles may only exist because we're observing them.

**American Patriot** · July 25th, 2011, 19:56

Sorry...

I made a mistake up there. 1 ev is 1.602 * 10 ^-19, not a billion.

Take that times a billion. lol

**American Patriot** · July 27th, 2011, 14:13

Originally Posted by Malsua

I'm not sure that these particles aren't being conjured into existence for the first time.

The rules of the universe clearly make them possible but they don't exist in nature and I'm not sure that conditions were even right for them to come along during the big bang.

It may be that the only way to get these particles into creation is to slam atoms like this, together like this, exactly this way, being observed just like this.

Collapsing waves of probability that result in these particles may only exist because we're observing them.

You're looking at this from a different point of view, which is fine... however... if the rules "clearly make them possible" then they could have and probably DID exist during the first few microseconds of the Big Bang.

The fact that they can't last long simply means they didn't last long, likely won't be found in nature and certainly can be produced in conditions similar to the Big Bang... not that we can quite get close enough.

So, sure they are "conjured into existence" but most definitely existed before, in the past.