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    WH is worried about these so-called "Lone Wolf" operators attacking places like the clown in Europe did recently.

    Obama has spoken on CNN about this.
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    DHS Chief Napolitano Asks Private Businesses To Snitch On Tea Party Terrorists…

    (The Hill) — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Wednesday stressed the importance of solidifying a partnership between government intelligence agencies and private-sector business in the U.S.’s struggle to thwart terrorist attacks.

    Less than a month before the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Napolitano addressed a full room of business owners at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s expanding “See Something, Say Something” awareness campaign, which relies heavily on information-sharing from private citizens and local businesses.

    “My hope and my charge to you today is to help us spread this public awareness message,” Napolitano said. “Quite frankly, we need all hands on deck in this effort.”

    Napolitano announced a series of new public service announcements Wednesday that advertise the public-awareness campaign of identifying and telling authorities about suspicious activity. She encouraged the business owners in the audience to share the 30-second video spots with their colleagues, link to them on their company websites and include them in their own marketing campaigns.

    “You know, as members of the private sector — and I know, in my role as secretary — how hard it is to get a message across to the general public and get them thinking in that way, right?” she said. “No government department, no matter how large or how well-run, can do it by itself, and the private sector, no matter how large and well-run, [can’t] do it by itself [either]. It has to be a partnership, and the public has to be involved.”

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    Default Re: Obama Administration concerned over "Lone Wolf" Operators

    Obama: Beware of the "Lone Wolf Terrorist"

    By Aaron Goldstein on 8.17.11 @ 12:05PM



    Yesterday, President Obama​ was interviewed by Wolf Blitzer of CNN. Blitzer asked Obama if he thought al Qaeda would attack the United States in revenge for killing Osama bin Laden. Here is part of what Obama said:

    The biggest concern we have right now is not the launching of a major terrorist operation, although that risk is always there, the risk that we're especially concerned over right now is the lone wolf terrorist, somebody with a single weapon being able to carry out wide-scale massacres of the sort that we saw in Norway recently. You know, when you've got one person who is deranged or driven by a hateful ideology, they can do a lot of damage, and it's a lot harder to trace those lone wolf operators.

    It is interesting to see President Obama characterize Anders Behring Breivik as a "lone wolf terrorist." In this instance, the characterization would be accurate. Barring any new evidence, it would appear Breivik planned and carried out his attacks last month on his own.

    However, if I were Blitzer, I would have asked Obama if he also considered either Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan​ or would be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad to be "lone wolves." While the killings at Fort Hood and the attempted bombing of Times Square could be described as acts carried out by a single person let us remember that both Hasan and Shahzad were in contact with Anwar al-Awlaki, the American born al Qaeda leader now operating out of Yemen. Indeed, Hasan attended the same Virginia mosque at which Awlaki preached along with two of the September 11th hijackers. Would Hasan have shot and killed 13 people screaming "Allahu Akbar!!!" without the support of Awlaki? Would Shahzad have entertained the idea of bombing the busiest place in all of New York City if not for Awlaki's influence?

    Now, it could very well be that al Qaeda is either out of the business of planning attacks on the scale of September 11th like attacks or simply isn't in the position to carry them out at this time. But as demonstrated by Awlaki's mentoring of Hasan and Shahzad, al Qaeda has adapted its tactics towards smaller scale operations which could be carried out by a single person. With this in mind, I would not characterize either Hasan or Shahzad as lone wolf terrorists. The question is: Does Obama?

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    Rep. King Echoes Pres. Obama’s Worry About ‘Lone Wolf’ Terrorists

    August 17, 2011 11:21 AM

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    Peter King, who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, says that leaves investigators to focus elsewhere. “Then you look for weapons sales. You look for, for instance, purchase of explosives. So, you try to track that down [to] see any type of unusual activity,” he told WCBS 880 reporter Peter Haskell.

    CBS News national security analyst Juan Zarate says this is a major challenge.

    “That’s really the nightmare scenario for counterterrorism officials – individuals who are intent, capable, and willing to take matters into their own hands,” he said.

    Authorities say there are no specific threats at this time.

    President Barack Obama says a “lone wolf” terror attack in the U.S. is more likely than a major coordinated effort like the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Obama says a “lone wolf” attack would be one like what happened in Norway last month, when one person killed dozens of people, apparently with little or no outside support.

    Still, Obama says the U.S. government is monitoring all potential terror scenarios and is not letting its guard down. And he says there may be “a little extra vigilance” in monitoring potential terror risks as the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks approaches.

    King says we shouldn’t think that terrorists don’t have 9/11 circled on their calendars.

    “This would be an ideal opportunity for Al-Qaeda to get revenge for what happened to [Osama] Bin Laden,” said King, who adds that he has the utmost confidence in law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
    DHS Chief Napolitano Asks Private Businesses To Snitch On Tea Party Terrorists…

    (The Hill) — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Wednesday stressed the importance of solidifying a partnership between government intelligence agencies and private-sector business in the U.S.’s struggle to thwart terrorist attacks.

    Less than a month before the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Napolitano addressed a full room of business owners at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s expanding “See Something, Say Something” awareness campaign, which relies heavily on information-sharing from private citizens and local businesses.

    “My hope and my charge to you today is to help us spread this public awareness message,” Napolitano said. “Quite frankly, we need all hands on deck in this effort.”

    Napolitano announced a series of new public service announcements Wednesday that advertise the public-awareness campaign of identifying and telling authorities about suspicious activity. She encouraged the business owners in the audience to share the 30-second video spots with their colleagues, link to them on their company websites and include them in their own marketing campaigns.

    “You know, as members of the private sector — and I know, in my role as secretary — how hard it is to get a message across to the general public and get them thinking in that way, right?” she said. “No government department, no matter how large or how well-run, can do it by itself, and the private sector, no matter how large and well-run, [can’t] do it by itself [either]. It has to be a partnership, and the public has to be involved.”
    I do NOT see where she said "Tea Party".

    Why are people making this shit up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    I do NOT see where she said "Tea Party".

    Why are people making this shit up?
    Been reading and searching, and I have the same comment.

    Here's another link for that article: http://thehill.com/news-by-subject/d...siness-leaders

    Completel bullshit with the misleading title.

    I did not find one mention of the Tea Party anywhere.


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    Default Re: Obama Administration concerned over "Lone Wolf" Operators

    Like the Administration compares the Tea Party to terrorists.


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    Default Re: Obama Administration concerned over "Lone Wolf" Operators

    Vector....

    I suspect there is a disconnect, or miscommunication here. More importantly, this is a piece of "propaganda". The article, and love her or hate her (and personally I detest this woman) Napolitano certainly doesn't like the Right has gone after the Tea Party and Right Wingers.

    HOWEVER, she just has to open her mouth to put her foot in it.

    It doesn't require a so-called "newsie" (is this guy a blogger? Is he a news REPORTER?) to make up sensational headlines to bring our attention to the subject.

    Show us where the woman said anything about the Tea Party.
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    She doesn't mention the tea party specifically, so the article in question is hogwash.

    That said, when they're looking for their lone wolf, they seem to be looking for the same profile as people who are members of the Tea party.

    I'm unsure how much PC tripe even the most liberal douchebag can swallow, so there has to be more to it.

    Are they purposefully trying to inflame conservative white Americans so as to create a crises they can use to re-elect Captain Zero?

    Are they trying to make middle eastern muslims think we don't look at them so they expose their schemes?

    Are they just fucking stupid?
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    Understood, the Administration is just looking for white middle class Americans.




    Obama warns of 'lone wolf' terror attack on US as 9/11 anniversary nears

    17-Aug-11, 6:31 PM | PNA/Xinhua


    U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday warned on the threat of "lone wolf" terror attack on the United States, as the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approaches.

    "The most likely scenario that we have to guard against right now ends up being more of a lone wolf operation than a large, well-coordinated terrorist attack," Obama said in an interview with CNN.

    He said such attack would look like what took place in Norway last month, when one person killed dozens of people without elaborate organizational support.

    "When you've got one person who is deranged or driven by a hateful ideology, they can do a lot of damage, and it's a lot harder to trace those lone wolf operators," said the president.

    However, Obama said the government is still monitoring all potential terror scenarios and is keeping its vigilance, especially with the 9/11 anniversary approaching.

    He said the United States is making progress in pressing al-Qaeda, and "they are a much weaker organization with much less capability than they had just two or three years ago."

    On September 11, 2001, al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger planes and crashed two into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, leaving some 3,000 people dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    She doesn't mention the tea party specifically, so the article in question is hogwash.
    Agreed... to a point. SHE didn't mention them THIS TIME, but has. I suspect that's actually the focus of the article. "She has, so she must mean this and that this time...."

    That said, when they're looking for their lone wolf, they seem to be looking for the same profile as people who are members of the Tea party.
    Pisses me off. Why? I'm a white guy, I'm 54, I'm a Republican, but I'm a member and supporter of the Tea Party NOW. I wasn't until recently. But I'm about as far from being a terrorist as Orphan Annie and Shirley Temple - but not as cute. Why the HELL is someone pointing at me and people like me yelling "Racist!", "Terrorist" and "GUN OWNER"? Just because I am a gun owner and white doesn't make me anything other than a gun owner.

    I'm unsure how much PC tripe even the most liberal douchebag can swallow, so there has to be more to it.
    They swallow just enough to keep the other side riled up... that's their plan.

    Are they purposefully trying to inflame conservative white Americans so as to create a crises they can use to re-elect Captain Zero?
    YES YES YES, this is EXACTLY RIGHT, this is what they are trying to do.

    Are they trying to make middle eastern muslims think we don't look at them so they expose their schemes?
    No, they are WARNING them to stay away from airports and be quiet so the don't have to take action against the "innocent".

    Are they just fucking stupid?
    This obviously goes without saying it out loud.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vector7 View Post
    Understood, the Administration is just looking for white middle class Americans.




    Obama warns of 'lone wolf' terror attack on US as 9/11 anniversary nears

    17-Aug-11, 6:31 PM | PNA/Xinhua


    U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday warned on the threat of "lone wolf" terror attack on the United States, as the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approaches.

    "The most likely scenario that we have to guard against right now ends up being more of a lone wolf operation than a large, well-coordinated terrorist attack," Obama said in an interview with CNN.

    He said such attack would look like what took place in Norway last month, when one person killed dozens of people without elaborate organizational support.

    "When you've got one person who is deranged or driven by a hateful ideology, they can do a lot of damage, and it's a lot harder to trace those lone wolf operators," said the president.

    However, Obama said the government is still monitoring all potential terror scenarios and is keeping its vigilance, especially with the 9/11 anniversary approaching.

    He said the United States is making progress in pressing al-Qaeda, and "they are a much weaker organization with much less capability than they had just two or three years ago."

    On September 11, 2001, al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four commercial passenger planes and crashed two into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, leaving some 3,000 people dead.
    I listened to him say this to CNN (posted it a day or so ago myself) and yes, this is correct. HE IS trying to obfuscate and hide his meanings to everyone except those "in charge".

    This country is so full of bureaucratic BS that there is no one "responsible" any more for anything. We've gone to the point of Rome...

    Damn it... everyone read Steyn's book. ASAP. We're screwed if we don't stand up and fight back.

    I'm about to get into a tax fight with the city.... and I will NOT PAY THIS DAMNED FEE. I refuse. Under any circumstances.

    They are now "adding it to our tax bill, and treating it like a tax if we refuse to pay" and yet, they keep saying how "This is not a tax, it's a FEE".

    Fuck them. One fight at a time.
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    But I'm about as far from being a terrorist as Orphan Annie and Shirley Temple - but not as cute
    Hop in a little pink dress and take a couple pictures. We can make a judgement.

    As a note, I just google'd her and she's still alive. lol. I figured she'd died years ago. Chances are you do in fact look cuter than she does NOW.

    Also...I saw you mention the tax/fee thing again. Start a thread on it because I've only see you refer to it, not give any detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    Hop in a little pink dress and take a couple pictures. We can make a judgement.
    Ummm.... I don't think so, Tim...

    As a note, I just google'd her and she's still alive. lol. I figured she'd died years ago. Chances are you do in fact look cuter than she does NOW.
    Of course, I was referring to her as a child, not as a Congress Critter or Ambassador.....

    Also...I saw you mention the tax/fee thing again. Start a thread on it because I've only see you refer to it, not give any detail.
    Well... It's a local thing... but I'll do that. You won't be affected unless you live(d) in Colorado Springs.

    I'm just irritated about it as one of those little things that turns into something big and huge. I'll start a thread later, and gather as much information about it as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    Are they purposefully trying to inflame conservative white Americans so as to create a crises they can use to re-elect Captain Zero?

    Are they just fucking stupid?
    Yes, and yes.

    That's my opinion.

    I found something yesterday that I've trying to verify, that addresses this very thing.

    When I either prove or debunk it, I'll update.

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    Here's the info I found as related to Zero manufacturing a crisis to stay in office:

    http://www.transasianaxis.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8674

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    FBI Director Vows More Use of ‘Lone Wolf’ Provision of Patriot Act

    Citizens With No Ties to Terror Groups Present 'Serious National Security Threat'

    by Jason Ditz, October 07, 2011

    Testifying yesterday in Congress, FBI Director Robert Mueller and National Counterterrorism Center director Matthew Olsen both agreed that the seldom used “lone wolf” provision of the USA PATRIOT Act, a provision which allows broad intelligence gathering of people with no actual terrorism ties, would become much more widely used in the months and years to come.



    Indeed, while Mueller claimed the FBI had never once used the “lone wolf” provision, but that US citizens with no actually ties to terror groups pose a “serious national security threat” and would need to be targeted more.

    Olsen concurred with this sentiment, adding that such people are “probably the greatest challenge that we face.” The two also agreed that Congress needs to give them even more broad surveillance powers, citing the popularity of Android-based smartphones.

    The FBI’s surveillance of Americans remains a serious issue, though the widespread classification of government records means the true extent of the policy may never be known. Thus while Mueller assures that no one has ever been targeted as a “lone wolf,” they continue to target American citizens for lawful activities.

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    Targeting Americans for "lawful activities"? If this isn't a sign of tyranny then NOTHING is.
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    White House Shooting Suspect’s Path to Anti-Government Extremism

    By WILLIAM YARDLEY

    IDAHO FALLS — A referee lifted Oscar Ortega’s hand high into the clear Rocky Mountain night last summer. Mr. Ortega had not yet been accused of trying to kill the president. He had not yet told the world he was Jesus Christ. Not until the next morning would all the blows to his body make him urinate blood.

    That July night at the rodeo grounds in Pocatello, with 2,000 people watching beneath the dry Western sky, the lazy kid who used to smoke too much dope was lucid and devastating in his debut as a mixed martial arts fighter. For the first time anyone could remember, he was an undisputed winner.

    It was his first bout, and it would be his last.

    “When his hand was raised in that ring,” said Eric King, who helped train Mr. Ortega at the Y.M.C.A. here, “I think that was one of the brightest moments of his life.”

    The fight ended in the second round, with Mr. Ortega astride his prone opponent in what is called a full mount, pummeling him in the face. Technical knockout, the referee ruled. Mr. Ortega carried his infant son, Israel, in triumph.

    Now he may spend the rest of his life in prison. The government says that on Nov. 11, Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, 21, rode past the Ellipse in Washington in a black Honda Accord he bought with money he earned waiting tables at his family’s small chain of Mexican restaurants here.

    Investigators say he slowed down as he passed the White House and fired a semiautomatic rifle from the passenger window. Bullets struck the White House near the residential quarters. The president and Michelle Obama were out of town.

    The federal charges accuse Mr. Ortega of attempting to assassinate President Obama. They say acquaintances claim that Mr. Ortega was trying to kill Mr. Obama because he considered him “the Antichrist.”

    That a religious extremist from a small town in Idaho would try to kill a black Democratic president might seem like cinematic stock. The state has long been stereotyped as violently antigovernment and racist.

    Remember the white supremacists of Hayden Lake?

    Remember Ruby Ridge?

    But many people here in Idaho Falls say the cliché is empty this time.

    Mr. Ortega is a Mexican-American whose family knows the sound of ethnic slurs and worries mostly about its restaurant business, not politics. People here say that the only thing that could have motivated Mr. Ortega was mental illness — but that they did not realize the severity of it until it was too late.

    “I kind of thought we should sit down and talk with him,” said Mr. Ortega’s sister, Yesenia Hernandez, “but then he was already gone.”

    The family reported Mr. Ortega missing on Oct. 31, eight days after he left on what he said was a vacation to Utah; instead, it was a trip to the East Coast. His family never heard from him, and still has not.

    Family members and others said that while Mr. Ortega was behaving increasingly strangely — he read a 45-minute speech at his 21st birthday party in October that veered from supporting marijuana legalization to detailing the threat of secret societies to expressing frustration with American foreign policy in oil-producing countries — he never seemed violent.

    They said that he could not have truly wanted to kill the president, but that he may have wanted a larger audience. He read his speech to anyone who would listen. In September, Mr. Ortega made a video in which he asked Oprah Winfrey to let him appear on television with her.

    “You see, Oprah, there is still so much more that God needs me to express to the world,” he says. “It’s not just a coincidence that I look like Jesus. I am the modern-day Jesus Christ that you all have been waiting for.”

    Mr. Ortega’s behavior and the age at which it appears to have begun to suggest that he has “a textbook case” of schizophrenia, said Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, who researches the disease and is the founder of the Treatment Advocacy Center in Arlington, Va.

    Dr. Torrey recalled working at St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington, a psychiatric treatment center, in the 1970s and 1980s.

    “These folks often end up in Washington as what we used to call ‘White House cases,’ ” he said. “A White House case classically is someone who comes to the guard at the White House and says they have a special message for the president, or they try to go over the wall. We’ve seen dozens. They almost always have paranoid schizophrenia, and they almost always respond to medication.” Among the patients being treated there is John W. Hinckley Jr., who shot President Ronald Reagan in 1981.

    Mr. Ortega, he acknowledged, is accused of going much further than pestering a guard or climbing a wall.

    “I can guarantee you that in his mind, it all makes perfect sense,” Dr. Torrey said. “If he’s Christ, Obama’s the Antichrist.”

    Mr. Ortega had a lengthy arrest record in and near Idaho Falls, but the charges were mostly misdemeanors, like under-age drinking, and rarely involved violence.

    “He really did fly under the radar,” said Joelyn Hansen, a spokeswoman for the Idaho Falls Police Department.

    Now the entire town knows who he is.

    “He seemed like a nice guy, but when he started talking, it was like, wow,” said Ramon Bailey, a student at Idaho State University who made the video of Mr. Ortega in September, after they met at the gym. Mr. Bailey was among several people traveling to Washington this week to testify before a grand jury.

    Jake Chapman is also scheduled to make the trip to Washington. The AK-47 that Mr. Ortega is accused of using to fire on the White House was registered to Mr. Chapman, who said in an interview that he is known to friends as “the gun guy.” He said that he sold the gun to Mr. Ortega in March for $550 and that he believed it was the first gun Mr. Ortega owned.

    Mr. Chapman, 21, said he had not heard Mr. Ortega talk of taking violent action. But more than a year ago, he recalled, Mr. Ortega and others watched an antigovernment film on the Internet called “The Obama Deception,” which was written, directed and produced by Alex Jones, a Texas-based conservative talk show host who has espoused a number of conspiracy theories involving the federal government.

    Ms. Hernandez, who is two years older than her brother, said their family’s house was popular when they were children because they had a trampoline and lots of video games. She described her brother as friendly but said he began getting into trouble in his teens and dropped out of high school in 10th grade.

    After several of what she and their mother, Maria Hernandez, said were aimless years, Mr. Ortega seemed to be maturing last year. He returned from a long visit with relatives in Mexico shortly before the birth of his son last year. He and his girlfriend, the boy’s mother, separated several months ago. In a brief interview, the girlfriend requested anonymity, saying only, “I love him, and I know who he truly is.”

    In addition to his son, whom friends and family say he doted on, Mr. Ortega was devoted to mixed martial arts. He started training about a year ago and learned quickly, developing strong stand-up fighting skills and often volunteering to help others.

    After years of eating junk food and caring little about his health, he started paying close attention to his diet, drinking protein shakes and eating more fruit and meat. Like other mixed martial arts fighters, when it came time to fight, he quickly dropped weight, getting to 154 from about 165 in a few days, in order to qualify for a lighter division, his trainers said.

    He had let his hair and beard grow long in the last year. He told some people that it was part of his fighting identity, meant to intimidate. More recently, he said it was because he was Jesus.

    “You ever heard of Andrei Arlovski, the fighter?” asked Mr. King, the trainer.

    “Oscar looked like him. But he also looked like Jesus.”

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