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    China Reveals Size Of Copper Inventory
    October 12, 2011

    China has for the first time revealed the estimated size of its copper inventories, shedding light on one of the commodity market’s biggest mysteries.

    Chinese copper inventories stood at 1.9m tonnes at the end of 2010, more than the US consumes in a year, according to estimates by the state-backed China Non-Ferrous Metals Industry Association. The estimate is significantly higher than the 1.0m-1.5m tonnes range that foreign executives have assumed in the past.

    The estimates, which were announced at a recent meeting of the International Copper Study Group but have not been made public, imply that real Chinese copper demand may have been lower than thought in recent years.

    Movements in Chinese inventories are one of the most important price drivers for the global copper market. A buying spree in early 2009 by the country, which now accounts for about 40 per cent of global copper demand, helped trigger a price rally from the lows of the financial crisis to new records this year above $10,000 a tonne.

    The new stock estimates were presented at the last meeting of the ICSG, a group representing the governments of large copper-producing countries and consumers, in Lisbon at the end of September, according to several people who attended.

    The CNIA estimated that Chinese copper stocks, not including those kept at Shanghai Futures Exchange warehouses, stood at 1.768m tonnes at the end of 2010, up from 1.218m in 2009 and 282,000 in 2008. SHFE inventories were 132,000 tonnes in 2010, putting China’s total stocks at 1.9m tonnes.

    Other than exchange stocks, copper is held as working inventory by China’s manufacturing sector as well as by merchants, investors and the State Reserve Bureau, Beijing’s stockpiling agency. However, analysts, investors and traders are sceptical, noting that the world’s largest copper importer and consumer has an interest in inflating the size of its stockpiles, which could push prices down. The CNIA declined to comment.

    “Whatever the Chinese say that stocks are, in the end they still need copper,” said George Cheveley, metals and mining portfolio manager at Investec Asset Management.

    The ICSG has yet to incorporate the new estimates into its supply and demand data. “The decision by the members was to defer using the new stock data pending more detailed confirmation of its source and content,” said Daniel Edelstein, chair of the ICSG’s statistical committee.

    Beijing releases only sketchy information about its supply, demand and inventories, creating a statistical vacuum that is contributing to price volatility.

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    Almost two years ago I noticed the Chinese were stockpiling copper. They seemed to be driving the price up when demand wasn't very high. I track the price of scrap copper and noticed it seemed high during the first recession of this double dip we now seem to be in. I think some of it had to do with the Chinese using the dollar to buy commodities in advance of the coming inflation of the dollar. India did the same thing last year, using It's surplus of dollars to buy gold.

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    There goes the price of the penny.
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    Default Re: China Reveals Size Of Copper Inventory

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    There goes the price of the penny.
    Don't you mean "the Zinc"?

    lol

    If your Lincoln Memorial penny has a date before 1982, it is made of 95% copper. If the date is 1983 or later, it is made of 97.5% zinc and plated with a thin copper coating.
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    So it is true, the Chinese are buying even the kitchen zinc?

    I wonder if Chinese ammo uses copper?
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    copper bullets. not a new concept.

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