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    Found this in another article posted by Vector. This base/listening post is closed now, but why was it there in the first place. State sponsored terrorism perhaps?


    Cuba's Lourdes Radar Base, Terrorist Mohamed Atta and the Kremlin
    Dr. Alexandr Nemets and Dr. Thomas Torda
    Thursday, Dec. 20, 2001
    1. New Data
    According to the Russian news agency Ria-Novosti and the Pravda-run website, on Aug. 14, 2001, Russian Deputy Prime Minister (in charge of defense industry and arms trade) Ilya Klebanov and Minister of Defense (MOD) Sergei Ivanov denied media reports of a possible closure by December 2001 of the Russian radar data processing center – a well-known spy hub – in Lourdes, a suburb of Havana.
    During his visit to Cuba this month, Russian President Vladimir Putin, accompanied by Fidel Castro, visited the Lourdes center of the Russian MOD. At a meeting with center specialists, Putin noted that their work is very much needed, "not only by the military, but also by the political leadership of the country."
    Putin said at a press conference in Havana that both Russia and Cuba are currently interested in continuing the operations of the Lourdes base. According to Putin, this center serves the interests of the Russian military and also provides some information obtained for appropriate Cuban government agencies.
    In a separate report, published by NewsMax and widely carried on U.S. websites, Orlando Gutierrez-Boronat of the Center for the Study of a National Option wrote on Sept. 20, 2001, that Cuban President Fidel Castro, during a visit to Iran, Syria and Libya in May 2001, held talks in Tehran with Iranian Supreme Spiritual Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
    Castro stated that "America is extremely weak today" and promised students at Tehran University that "the imperialist king will finally fall" because "Iran and Cuba have reached the conclusion that together they can tear down the USA."
    The Castro regime, this report continues, has continued to harbor international terrorists, pursued a strategic alliance with terrorist states to create an 'anti-Western' international front, and directly engaged in terrorist attacks and espionage against Americans. In particular, Cuba's close relationships with Iraq and some Middle Eastern terrorist groups are well known.
    Cuba today, Gutierrez-Boronat writes, continues to serve as a base for coordination and mutual support among trans-national terrorist organizations, including Colombian and some European-based groups.
    It is also known that Cuba is active in bioweapons development. In October 2000, Cuban Vice President Carlos Lage and the Iranian Vice-Minister of Health participated in the groundbreaking for a biotech R&D facility outside Tehran. Experts expressed doubts about the supposed medical objectives of this installation.
    The report says that there are links between Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, the Iranian government and the Castro regime. Castro and bin Laden have worked hard to build a common front to bring down the U.S. and to develop biological weapons of mass destruction (WMD).
    In February 1998, bin Laden announced the creation of an "international front" against the U.S. According to a document obtained by the PBS program "Frontline," bin Laden "regards an anti-American alliance with Iran and China as something to be considered."
    But there may be more to the Castro-bin Laden connection than the Iran link. In a story dated March 4, 2000, the Associated Press reported that a young Afghan who had trained during the previous winter at a camp in Kunar Province, in northeastern Afghanistan, said he saw men from Chechnya, Sudan, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Cuba and North Korea. "The North Korean," he said, "had brought chemical weapons."
    A third report, from the December 2001 issue of Moscow-based Sovershenno secretno (Top Secret), excerpted here, indicates that al-Qaeda has sleeper agents and sleeper cells all over the world. This organization has copied KGB tactics and has high-ranking protectors in several "countries of concern."
    The following points from this report are of particular importance:


    • Baghdad protectors – For many years, Saddam's regime was the most serious supporter and protector of al-Qaeda. Baghdad knew everything about the Sept. 11 attacks in advance.
    • Iran has supported al-Qaeda in the following areas: joint planning of terrorist actions; training of al-Qaeda fighters in camps in Iran, Syria and Libya; financial support; and providing fake documents, telecom gear and explosives. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, leader of the Iran-financed extremist organization Egyptian Islamic Jihad, became not only the closest associate of bin Laden, but also his successor and – as judged by U.S. investigators – chief planner of the 9-11 terrorist attacks. CIA analysts now have no doubts: Tehran knew in advance about the 9-11 attacks.
    • The Balkan track and "Borodin dungeon" – The notorious "Pal Palych" Borodin, long a Kremlin insider, also has had a definite connection to al-Qaeda, via a Swiss businessman of Albanian origin named Bedget Pakkoli.
    • Why did they close Lourdes? The Lourdes spy center was the largest such base in the Western Hemisphere. It allowed Russia and Cuba to keep the entire North American continent under electronic surveillance and to have access to phone conversations, other telecommunications, and the databases of the U.S. and its neighbors.

    Former Russian Presidents Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin were much more pliable than Putin, but they didn't give up the Lourdes spy center. Putin himself, as a member of the intelligence community, knows perfectly well the value of the Lourdes base, but he had very strong arguments in favor of closing this station. The decision to close the center was taken just after the 9-11 terrorist strikes and wasn't accidental by any means.
    American special services have information that terrorist Mohamed Atta, the key figure behind the 9-11 attacks, had connections to the Cuban intelligence services and in spring 1999 met with their high-ranking representative in Miami, Fla. – not far from the site where the future suicide squad got its flight school training.
    The Lourdes base, in addition to secret missions, was also tasked with active tracking of air flights of all kinds throughout the U.S. The center had a full set of flight codes for the U.S. Air Force and civilian airlines. Once, in 1999, the center broke into the U.S. air traffic control system and sent – with the help of a powerful, 1,500-kilowatt transmitter – a fake flight signal, which almost caused a serious accident in the air.
    In short, the Lourdes center had accumulated a huge database on U.S. civilian airline routes, schedules and procedures. Cuba very likely shared this information with al-Qaeda – which may explain the devilish professionalism behind the 9-11 attacks.
    It seems that Putin understood that U.S. investigative teams could acquire – or had already acquired – data on the "Lourdes/Castro/al-Qaeda" connection, which became the decisive factor in the closure of the Lourdes facility. It should be mentioned here that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has close ties with Saddam's regime – as well as with Putin and Castro – and has been known to exchange warm greetings with leading terrorist Carlos "The Jackal," originally from Venezuela.
    2. Conclusions
    The following conclusions are clear: Information needed to carry out the 9-11 attacks went from the Lourdes center, via Cuban secret agents in Miami, to Atta and other members of his suicide squad. This became the decisive factor in the successful realization of the 9-11 strikes. The Kremlin knew in advance of this horrific plot and blessed the operation. Tehran also knew everything in advance – from its agents in al-Qaeda and from Castro himself.
    In September-October the authors published in NewsMax, articles showing that the Kremlin and Russian Duma (lower house of Parliament) knew about the forthcoming terrorist strikes on the U.S. as early as July, and that the Duma's Economic Commission held hearings to prepare Russia for the "fall of America" – the title of an article published by Dr. Tatyana Koryagina in Pravda on July 12, 2001 – and to get as much benefit as possible from this foreknowledge.
    (See Expert: Russia Knew in Advance, Encouraged Citizens to Cash Out Dollars and Russian Expert Who ‘Predicted’ Attacks Warns of New Ones.)
    Now it is easy to find the source of the Kremlin's knowledge. Moreover, we conclude that Putin, Castro and Ayatollah Khamenei knew everything about the coming terrorist attacks by May 2001 or even earlier. And what of the source of the anthrax letters that terrified America for months?
    The authors feel that now, with the Afghan war almost over, the Baghdad regime should become the next target of the global anti-terrorist campaign. It remains for Putin and Co. to show where their real support lies – behind President Bush, or behind Saddam.
    Dr. Alexandr V. Nemets is a consultant to the American Foreign Policy Council. He is co-author of "Chinese-Russian Military Relations, Fate of Taiwan and New Geopolitics."
    Dr. Thomas J. Torda has been a Chinese linguist specializing in science and technology with FBIS, and a Chinese/Russian defense technology consultant with the Office of Naval Intelligence.

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    Listening to the Enemy: Russia's Economic Attack Plan

    WorldThreats.com ^ | October 18, 2003 | Ryan Mauro
    Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:46:10 PM by Blindboy16

    Listening to the Enemy: Russia’s Economic Attack Plan
    Compiled By: Ryan Mauro

    PhilNDeBlank9@aol.com

    Special Thanks to J.R. Nyquist (www.JRNyquist.com) and Dr. Alexander Nemets of Newsmax.com for putting together the pieces to the puzzle I am discussing here. The revelations drawn upon in this article are a result of their work.

    “You overthrew the shah 22 years ago, but there is another shah one thousand times stronger and better armed...This shah is imperialism, and its main stronghold is only miles away from our border... [America] has military bases and aircraft carriers everywhere and its nuclear warheads aimed in every direction, but it can be toppled just like your shah was overthrown.”

    --Fidel Castro during a visit with the leaders of Iran in May, 2001.
    "In this man's heart (Osama bin Laden) you'll find an insistence, a strange determination that he will reach one day the tunnels of the White House and will bomb it with everything that is in it.....with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House....the revolutionary bin Laden is insisting very convincingly that he will strike America on the arm that is already hurting. That the man....will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs."

    --Article in Al-Nasariya, run by Uday Hussein. The column was written by one of Saddam’s favorite columnists and was published on July 21, 2001.

    “...strike at [American] economic structure, their reputation—and their internal peace and security....We should be very careful and very clever, so as not to leave behind any evidence that could negatively impact our future standing or policies... “...improve our plans, especially in coordination with fighters of Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah to find one objective that is beneficial to both sides...The Leader [Khomeini] mentioned that we should limit our relations with Al-Qaeda to just two people, as before—Imad Mughniyeh and Ayman Al-Zawahiri—and deal only with them.”

    --Document dated May 14, 2001, handed over by an Iranian defector. It is written by Ayatollah Khomeini and the Minister of Information and Security of Iran.

    “Zawahiri told my boss, Mustafa Hadadian, that they were planning a ‘major operation’ against the United States and Israel... After the meeting, 12 of them [Al-Qaeda officials] stayed in Iran. They were talking about their ‘plans for the future’, and that they had the ‘same enemy’ as the Iranians. They said they were trying to build up one movement to cooperate together, and were asking Iran for operational support, equipment and money-laundering help in Dubai, as well as assistance with travel documents to help them travel from Iran to Europe. Ayman Al-Zawahiri told my boss that Al-Qaeda was ‘very soon’ going to make a major operation against the United States.”

    --Testimony of high-ranking Iranian defector, Hamid Reza Zakeri, speaking about his experience in Iran’s involvement with Al-Qaeda in spring of 2001.

    “The US has been chosen as the object of financial attack because the financial center of the planet is located there. The effect will be maximal. The strike waves of economic crisis will spread over the planet instantly and will remind us of the blast of a huge nuclear bomb...There are high chances that after August 19 the ruble will become a very good currency.”

    -Dr. Tatanya Koryagina, member of the Russian Duma, in interview with Pravda on July 12, 2001.

    These pre-911 warnings came not from US or British or Israeli intelligence, but from our enemies and chief sponsors of terrorism. Few would think that such clues as to coming catastrophes could be found in the statements by the enemy. It appears that Iran and Iraq, and possibly Cuba knew about the September 11th assault before hand. As listed state sponsors of terrorism, this could be expected. But how come a member of the Russian Duma issued similar warnings? There is one thing in common between virtually all the state sponsors—direct and deep ties to the intelligence services of the Soviet Union (the former leading sponsor of terrorism before 1991).

    For years, analysts have been tricked into thinking that the KGB and GRU have been dismantled, that Communism is dead. But such an analyst needs only an hour or two to realize they are mistaken. The top positions in the Russian hierarchies of intelligence, military, and government are “former” agents of the dreaded die-hard Communist groups. The best example is Yevgeny Primakov, the head of Soviet operations in the Middle East in the 1960s to support terrorism.

    Primakov, a staunch Marxist-Leninist and anti-American speaker to this day, oversaw the training, establishment, and equipping of Middle Eastern intelligence services in the region which would serve to put Marxist-like radicals such as Yasser Arafat in power in the “liberation” movements. Primakov went on to become Prime Minister of Russia in the 1990s, and today is one of the leading political forces in Russia.

    As the Soviet Union disintegrated, these structures either formed the forces that would control most of the post-Soviet big power industries, governments, political parties, and intelligence services. Others merged into the Russian Mafia—which was created by the KGB and GRU beginning in the 1960s, when they were ordered to infiltrate and seize control of “liberation” movements, drug trafficking groups, and organized crime syndicates. The KGB, GRU and Communist structures survived the collapse of the USSR this way, which is why people often say that these structures still exist today. These structures still sponsor terrorism, infiltrate Western intelligence agencies, and corrupt the governments of the former Soviet Union to put their allies in power.

    Through these methods, almost all positions of power in the former Soviet Union have KGB sympathizers.

    Having explained that, we can understand how the Russian intelligence services operate in unison with the Russian Mafia in not only criminal activity, but also in sponsoring terrorists—they’re allies over the past 50 years. This chain of Communist sympathizers which reaches deep into the Russian government exists only because there was no “de-Communization” campaign after the USSR collapsed, compared to the “de-Nazification” campaign in Germany after World War Two. Of all anti-American forces, this chain is the most complex to explain and understand. But once it is understood, it can be seen how it is possible that the devout Marxist-Leninist sects of parts of the Russian government and intelligence services may have known about 911 in advance, and yet did nothing. After all, Russia’s government and intelligence services are the ones closest to the Axis of Evil.

    Modern-day Marxist Leninists believe that fate will lead to the collapse of the American Capitalist economy, as it is the natural path for mankind.

    As told by the numerous defectors of the Soviet Bloc, the long-range plan of the Marxists envisions that the US economy would violently and suddenly collapse do to Capitalism’s “own evils” and America’s own aggression. Please consider the following statement:

    “[America] can move to either extreme as we’ve seen in the McCarthy Period and the Vietnam War. If we can impose on the U.S.A. the external restraints proposed in our Plan, and seriously disrupt the American economy, the working and the lower middle classes will suffer the consequences and they will turn on the society that has failed them. They will be ready for revolution.”

    --Konstantin Katushev, the Kremlin’s top economic strategist. Quoted by the top Communist defector, Jan Sejna, in “We Will Bury You”.

    This statement clearly spells out the view of how to approach the American economic troubles from the view of a devout Marxist-Leninist. Any event which occurs as a result of the “evils” of Capitalism should be viewed as strategic, but natural. For this reason, when viewing the Russian press of today which is (for the most part) controlled by former Communists, the specific warnings about the coming economic collapse should not be taken lightly.

    What am I trying to lead this article to? My main point is that a distinct sect of the Russian government, probably from its intelligence services, knew something was to happen to America in the second half of 2001. It was ignored because they view America as an enemy, and viewed it from a Marxist-Leninist point-of-view.

    The Executive Intelligence Review issue of July 27, 2001, warned that the Russian government was expecting the dollar to crash later in the year. The article by Rachel Douglas writes, “Russia is getting ready for the dollar to crash. Preparedness measures have moved from the realm of published warnings, to concrete actions, such as the Central Bank's decision to put the gold chervonets coin into circulation. The short-term purpose of that move is to attract Russians' savings out of the dollar, and into the Russian chervonets, in a country where $100 billion or more is held in cash (U.S. Federal Reserve Notes). Beyond that result, the Russian currency shift could become a stepping stone to more profound changes in international monetary policy—as nations seek safety from the disintegration of the Anglo-American-centered world financial system.

    The Bank of Russia (Central Bank) acted on July 10, making the gold chervonets legal tender. The coins were minted as prospective souvenirs in 1980, at the time of the Moscow Olympics in the Soviet Union, but the more interesting historical reference point is the 1920s coin, of which the modern chervonets is a replica. That currency was introduced at the initiative of Soviet Foreign Minister Chicherin in connection with the Soviet-German Rapallo agreements, acting at odds with the Versailles Treaty powers. That chervonets was used exclusively for foreign settlements.

    The revived chervonets is being discussed in the Russian press, as related to the coming crash of the U.S. dollar.”

    This major article wasn’t alone in warning about Russia’s preparations for an American economic disaster in the fall. JR Nyquist warned on his column on WorldNetDaily.com that, “Russian analysts are abuzz with talk of a coming US economic crash. Some have stated that the collapse of the US dollar is imminent. According to the recent testimony of Russian economist Tatyana Koryagina, the American dollar will soon be used as ‘wallpaper for toilet stalls’...told the Duma on June 29, ‘I am closely watching the measures taken by the President and the Central Bank. From the standpoint of pre-crisis measures, they are acting properly. It is possible that after August 19, the ruble might become a rather good currency.’”

    At the same exact time, the deputy chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, Sergei Shishkaryov, said, “Something is rotten in the kingdom of America....European concerns about growing problems in the American economy.” I encourage readers to search the Russian press, particularly the government-owned ones or the ones that are controlled by former Communists connected to the intelligence services or government, to look at these warnings. It appears almost as if it was orchestrated, and it was successful in its objectives. The media told Russians to dump dollars, make specific economic preparations, and basically, expect the crash during the end of summer or beginning of fall.

    The writings of analysts of Russia that I trust all agreed that it appeared that there were deliberate leaks ahead of 911 to prepare for some kind of attack. The writings of economics experts reach the same conclusion, pointing out the increased Russian purchases of gold beginning in July 2001. By the end of the month, China was making similar gold purchases, and to a lesser degree, so was India. However, there is no evidence to conclude that China or India had pre-knowledge of the coming attacks. It is possible Russian intelligence knew of increased Al-Qaeda activity (sponsored by Russia’s Middle Eastern allies) aimed at an attack on America’s homeland.

    Al-Qaeda’s links to the Russian Mafia may have also alerted Russian intelligence. Please read the following article written at Pravda.ru, about a Russian hacker team that had pre-knowledge of 911 and even profited from it. It is available at http://english.pravda.ru/society/2003/03/13/44350.html. It is a very interesting article that shows the reach of the Russian Mafia into the international terrorist network. This activity described in the article may or may not have had anything to do with Russia’s preparations, but at the very least, it does prove that a portion of the corrupt elements in the country were aware of the attacks.

    Exactly what did the high-level Russians in the government know about the attack? We’ll never know for sure, but we do know some from interviews in the Russian press. Thanks to Dr. Alexandr Nemets’ article (Newsmax.com, September 17, 2001) we know that the Russian State Duma had a high-level conference in early July named “On the measures to provide the development of Russian economy in the environment of destabilization of the world financial system”. It was headed by the chairman of the Commission on Economic Politics, Dr. Sergei Glazyev and included high-level officials such as Dr. Tatyana Koryagina, “senior research fellow in the Institute of Macroeconomic Researches subordinated to the Russian Ministry of Economic Development” and advisor to Putin, Lyndon Larouche; and Yacha Baba, the Malaysian ambassador. It was immediately after this conference that the Russian press began quoting Koryagina’s warnings and warnings of their own.

    This occurred simultaneously with the economic preparations being made by the Russian government. The press openly said that the meeting discussed preparation for the economic collapse of America’s Stock Market.

    Dr. Nemets reprinted an interview with Koryagina that was published in Pravda on July 12, 2001—less than 3 months before September 11th, 2001. It is reprinted as follows:

    Pravda: All the participants at the hearings stated that America is a huge financial pyramid that will crash soon. Still, it is hard to understand how this could happen in the first and richest country of the world—without a war, without missile or bomb strikes?

    Koryagina: Besides bombs and missiles, there are other kinds of weaponry, much more destructive ones...

    Pravda: Well, economic theory. But how is it possible for you to give an exact date—August 19?

    Koryagina: The US is engaged in a mortal economic game. The known history of civilization is merely the visible part of the iceberg. There is a shadow economy, shadow politics and also a shadow history, known to conspirologists. There are [unseen] forces acting in the world, unstoppable for [the most powerful] countries and even continents.

    Pravda: Just these forces intend to smash America on August 19?

    Koryagina: There are international “superstate” and “supergovernment” groups. In accordance with tradition, the mystical and religious components play extremely important roles in human history. One must take into account the shadow economy, shadow politics and the religious component, while predicting the development of the present financial situation.

    Pravda: Still, I don’t understand what could be done to this giant country, whose budget is calculated in the trillions of dollars.

    Koryagina: It is possible to do anything to the US...whose total debt has reached $26 trillion. Generally, the Western economy is at the boiling point now. Shadow financial actives of $300 trillion are hanging over the planet. At any moment, they could fall on any stock exchange and cause panic and crash. The recent crisis in Southeast Asia, which touched Russia, was a rehearsal.

    Pravda: What is the sense of smashing just America?

    Koryagina: The US has been chosen as the object of financial attack because the financial center of the planet is located there. The effect will be maximal. The strike waves of economic crisis will spread over the planet instantly and will remind us of the blast of a huge nuclear bomb.

    Pravda: Did Russia’s crisis of 1998 have this religious-mystical component?

    Koryagina...The Russian crisis of 1998 was preconditioned by internal factors. Yeltsin’s policy enlarged its consequences. Now we have President Putin, and this is a good choice.

    Pravda: What do we have to do now?

    Koryagina: Recommendations, compiled by the Duma Commission of Economic Politics after the recent Duma hearings, offer instruction on what should be done to escape the consequences of a world crisis inspired by a financial catastrophe in the US. This document will be sent—or has already been sent—to President Putin.

    Pravda: What should Russian citizens do?

    Koryagina: They should start changing their dollars for rubles. President Putin and the Russian Central Bank are already taking the necessary healthy measures. There are high chances that after August 19 the ruble will become a very good currency.

    Pravda: Why August 19, say, and not the 21st?

    Koryagina: Some fluctuation in this date is possible. Serious forces are acting against those who are now preparing the attack on the United States. August, with very high probability, will bring the financial catastrophe to the US...The last 10 days of August have especial importance from a religious-sensible point of view.”

    On July 17, 2001, Pravda ran another article involving an interview with the head of that conference in early July. He echoed a similar theme, mentioning that if preparations are taken, Russia could even benefit from the coming financial catastrophe that would collapse the United States. A final article with a warning was published by Pravda on July 31st, 2001 involving an interview with the Malaysian ambassador to Russia, who also attended the conference. He said the exact same thing about the imminent collapse of the dollar.

    What They Are Saying About Our Future

    Was Koryagina talking about 9-11 when she warned about the financial attack on America? According to her, the answer is “Yes!” On Newsmax.com (October 4, 2001), Dr. Alexandr Nemets reprinted parts of an interview that Pravda had with Koryagina after 911. She stated, regarding the error in predicting August 19th as the attack date, “I did not make a serious mistake. Indeed, between August 15 and 20, the dollar started trembling under the pressure of multiple bad news about the US and the world economy. And within weeks, the Manhattan skyscrapers fell down. As a result, a significant part of the world financial network was paralyzed. This strike was aimed at destabilization and destruction of America and all the countries making countless billions of dollars.” Other things Koryagina stated include:

    --“The powerful group” that directed 911 would “strike America in the back”, which will cause the American people to panic as the government is show unable to protect them. From this, the American economy will collapse.

    --911 was not a plot developed by the hijackers but rather by an international group that aims to use its capabilities to restructure the world. In writing about what Koryagina said, Nemets writes: “She said the operation was not the work of 19 terrorists but a larger group of extremely powerful private persons, with total assets of about $300 trillion, intends to legalize its power and to become the new world government. The September 11 strikes showed that this group is afraid of nothing—human lives have zero value for them. Koryagina again encouraged Russian citizens to cash out dollars. The Koryagina claims are not easily dismissed, especially her clear indications in the interview before September 11 that the attacks on America’s financial system would be of unusual nature. Her comments also mirrored similar warnings issued by Russian officials.”

    The warnings in the media increased as the war against Iraq became certain. And of course, economic preparations came along with it. While warning that terrorists and state sponsors had plans to retaliate for any such action, Russia’s gold currency reserves reached $4.7 billion worth on August 17, 2002. The reserves increased by $600 million worth of gold between August 17th and August 9th. The previous week, the reserves were also increased by $600 million. The week before that (the week of July 26th to August 2nd) saw an increase of over $900 million worth of gold! Between July 5th and August 17th 2002, Russia’s gold reserves saw an increase of almost $2.6 billion![1]

    JR Nyquist on Mach 5, 2003 pointed out warnings similar to Koryagina were being made by the major Russian voices. Leonid Ivashov, whose speeches are full of Marxist-Leninist rhetoric, is the head of Russia’s Geopolitical Problems Academy and has major influence in the foreign policy area of government. On February 7, Ivashov said that if the US went to war with Iraq, a new “international security system” would have to be made, as the doctrine of pre-emption would make the world endangered by the West. He says that “the symptoms of possible future chaos are already here.

    I am sure all of you remember Australia’s statement that it will make preventative strikes. Israel, too, has repeatedly said this.” He continues to say, “The military doctrine or the doctrine of preventative strikes basically consolidates the right of the US armed forces to interfere in the affairs of any country. We can clearly see the desire of the US and its allies to rule the world. We can also add the world financial elite there, too”. Not only is this an anti-Capitalism remark, but it echoes Jan Sejna’s warning that the “former” Communists would egg on an economic collapse, feeling it would undermine the so-called international capitalist elite planning to conquer the world. If Russia knew about a “financial attack” in advance, on such a dreaded enemy, why would they warn the enemy?

    Perhaps the most startling remark by Ivashov was made three days after September 11th. “The present state of Russia satisfies US interests. What will be tomorrow is unclear. Thus, the US is now at a transition point. She has come to the climax of her military power adventures for grabbing power over the planet.

    I think this peak ill be crossed in one and a half to two years, after which the USA will retreat from its positions as a result of economic problems....I think an attack an Iraq will occur. I think Iran will be drawn into the confrontation, and it should not be excluded that Israel will participate...After that, US policy will disintegrate under the influence of the economic and social-political collapse inside the US. One has the feeling, that the financial oligarchy in power on this planet is not interested in maintaining the US population at its present living standard.”

    Here we have common themes between the attendees of the conference in early July and Ivashov and the others mentioned:

    A) A planned economic collapse by “shadow forces” that would financially attack the USA. This would be favorable to Russia and the security of the world.

    B) A new security system for the world would arise from the collapse

    C) The US military “threat” will end do to the economic collapse

    D) “Shadow forces” will attack a world financial elite of Capitalists that plan to control the world. To bring them down, you must bring down America.

    E) War with Iraq will play a role in bringing down these financial elite. It is unclear if the Russians I’ve mentioned feel that the “shadow forces” will provoke the US into a war with Iraq, or that such a conflict is inevitable and they plan to use it to their advantage (the most likely scenario).

    From these statements, we have a series of accurate predictions by the high-level Russian elite:

    Around August 19th: An attack on the United States without bombs or missiles that would shock the Stock Market and world economy, resulting in a new era that would begin the downfall of America and the “financial elite” (a Marxist-Leninist term).

    Second half of 2001: The same mysterious forces behind the 911 attack would begin preparation for a second “financial attack” of a different kind, which would force Americans to give up the belief that the government will protect them.

    March—September 2003: US military power begins declining from economic problems stemming from a war with Iraq. Ivashov accurately predicted a war with Iraq in this time period!

    Last half of 2003: Conflict widens to include Iran and possibly Israel (I am unable to tell if Ivashov means this will occur militarily). US policy collapses after economic and social-political crises in the US. Ivashov said in February 2003, “I will say for everybody that the use of nuclear weapons during the conflict is quite probable.” It appears that Ivashov is counting on a nuclear conflict of some kind to accelerate America’s downfall.

    Although there can be no clear conclusions from all this, we can conclude that sects of the Russian intelligence communities and government did know about 911 in advance. We can conclude that there are distinct anti-American sects in Russia that will not help us detect a “financial attack”, and may even egg it on.

    We can conclude that there is certain coordination between state sponsors and these rogue elements in Russia. We can conclude that the branches of forces that help terrorists and the organized crime groups allied to them, is far more extensive than commonly believed. And finally, we can conclude that there are rogue elements in Russia eagerly awaiting the collapse of America’s economic system to exploit our weaknesses, and perhaps even take power themselves in Russia after such an event.

    And one more thing, please do not think that Russia would warn us about a coming terrorist attack unless it has something in it for them. Nemets wrote in Newsmax.com on April 17, 2003 this following quote by an influential Russian: “In the case of success in Iraq, Americans will feel themselves the rulers of the world. To support this position, they will have to repeat similar operations in some countries about every two years. The best decision for Russia would be to give America an opportunity to drink this cup to the bottom. Let them stick in Iraq, in other points of the world, preferably as far from Russia as possible. Let’s wait this moment out and then use the American weakness. Then we’ll recover Great Russia by absorbing Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.”

    The quote is from Vitaly Tretyakov, former editor of Nezavisimaya Gazeta and a member of Putin’s “close intellectual group”. Nemets writes how other specific members of this group have all recently talked of using American weakness, and bogging down American forces.

    “The decision to make war on Iraq is a big mistake that the United States made. America gave an incentive for the rest of the world to unite in the anti-American coalition. It is obvious from the diplomatic point of view that no country in the whole world wishes to live and watch Americans using the military force whenever they want and like to use. The world community will have to consolidate its military, political, economic, technical resources in order not to allow that to happen.

    The process is underway already. This is a unique moment, for it never happened before, not even during the USA’s bombing of Yugoslavia. The world will have to unite and find a format to restrain America, the country, which opposed itself to the whole world.” –Colonel-General Valery Manilov, member of the Federation Council from the Primarye Region in an interview with the radio show, Echo of Moscow.[2]

    Articles of Interest

    http://www.propagandamatrix.com/true...oryagnia.html: Although I do not recommend using this site in research at all, this particular article does have some good information on how Koryagina described the “shadow forces” involved in 911. I do not agree with some information written in the article, from an analytical point of view, but the information that Koryagina stated must be exposed.

    http://www.schillerinstitute.org/dum..._glazyez.html: This contains the testimony of the attendees to the conference in early July.

    Highly recommended for further insight!

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    On the day of 911 Russia commences air strike drills simulating a nuclear attack on the US using aircraft on bombing runs. NORAD scrambles resources to monitor this Russian activity.

    September 10, 2001: NORAD Setting Stage for Major Monitoring Exercise, Preparing for a Possible Russian Reaction

    The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), which is responsible for detecting and responding to any attack on the mainland United States, is in the early stages of a major training exercise called Vigilant Guardian that is to take place off the shores of the northeastern US and Canada.

    The exercise is not scheduled to really take off until the following day, September 11 (see (6:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001), but simulated intelligence briefings and meetings are now being held to set the stage for the mock engagements to come. According to author Lynn Spencer, Vigilant Guardian “is the kind of war game that the Russians usually respond to, even in this post-Cold War era.”

    The Russians have in fact announced that they will be deploying aircraft to several of their “Northern Tier” bases on September 11.

    Russian jets have penetrated North American airspace during previous NORAD exercises, and Colonel Robert Marr, the commander of NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS), has prepared for them to do so again during the current exercise.

    If this happens, armed US fighter jets will intercept the Russian aircraft and escort them back to their own territory.

    In case there is any confrontation, Marr has ordered that his alert fighter jets be loaded with additional fuel and weapons.


    According to Spencer, on September 11, all alert fighters will be “loaded with live missiles in anticipation of any show of force that might be needed to respond to the Russians.” [Spencer, 2008, pp. 3-5]

    NORAD has already announced that it is deploying fighters to Alaska and Northern Canada to monitor a Russian air force exercise being conducted in the Russian Arctic and North Pacific Ocean throughout this week (see September 9-11, 2001). [BBC, 2001, pp. 161; NORAD, 9/9/2001]

    According to the 9/11 Commission, the Vigilant Guardian exercise will in fact postulate “a bomber attack from the former Soviet Union.” [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 458]





    September 9-11, 2001: NORAD Begins Northern Vigilance Military Operation

    NORAD begins Operation Northern Vigilance.

    For this military operation, it deploys fighters to Alaska and Northern Canada to monitor a Russian air force exercise in the Russian Arctic and North Pacific Ocean, scheduled for September 10 to September 14.

    The Russian exercise involves its bombers staging a mock attack against NATO planes that are supposedly planning an assault on Russia.
    [BBC, 2001, pp. 161; NORAD, 9/9/2001; Washington Times, 9/11/2001]

    The NORAD fighters are due to stay in Alaska and Canada until the end of the Russian exercise.

    At some time between 10:32 A.M. and 11:45 A.M. on 9/11, Russian President Vladimir Putin calls the White House to say the Russians are voluntarily halting their exercise.
    [Washington Post, 1/27/2002]

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    Don't forget one of TAA's original threads vector!

    Russia's Involvement With Terrorism

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    Thanks Ryan,

    Some older threads could be before my time here.

    Please add any missed.

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    If you haven't seen that thread before, you might like to read through it if you have some free time. It's a long read but a lot of great information has been posted to it.

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    What a great resource to bookmark!

    THAT thread is a treasure trove of information illustrating how the Axis is behind every radical muslim group in the ME against America.

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    Oh yes. I think many of the TAA old timers do.

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    I didn't know about this...

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    Gift From the People of Russia to the USA

    "MONUMENT TO THE STRUGGLE AGAINST WORLD TERRORISM"

    Zurab Tesereteii, artist

    Vladimir Putin, President Russia

    This is the "TEAR DROP" made and installed by the Russians to honor those who died in 9 11 and a statement against terrorism. It is very impressive. The tear drop is lined up with the Statue of Liberty

    September 11th , 2006 2:30 pm The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor, New JerseyThe Unveiling of a New World Monument Remembering the Victims of September 11th and the 1993 World Trade Center Bombings A Gift from the People of Russia Vladimir Putin, President (Northeast Corner of Bayonne Peninsula at the former Military Ocean Terminal)

    Time cures everything, but there are things we cannot and must not forget. Standing more than 100 feet tall, To the Struggle Against World Terrorism honors victims of 9/11 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombings and serves as a symbol of solidarity in the fight against world terrorism.

    Created by Russian sculptor Zurab Tsereteli, the memorial was a gift from the Russian people. Dedicated on September 11, 2006, it stands in direct view of the Statue of Liberty and the former World Trade Center.

    THE MEMORIAL AT HARBOR VIEW PARK Bayonne, New Jersey

    Standing at 100 feet tall and weighing 175 tons, the monument was shipped from Russia to the United States in sixsections — weighing between 28 and 63 tons each — and assembled by a group of Russian artisans. Russian artist Zurab Tsereteli spent several months in the U.S. overseeingconstruction of the memorial.

    This is the "TEAR DROP" made and installed by the Russians to honor those who died in 9 11 and a statement against terrorism. It is very impressive. The tear drop is lined up with the Statue of Liberty .

    "TEAR DROP"

    Artist Zurab Tesereteii"


    PUTIN's GIFT TO AMERICA IS KEPT HIDDEN!

    The work of art is called "The Tear Drop Memorial". It consists of a 100 foot tall tower, with a huge open crack running down the center. Hanging from the crack is a massive "teardrop" designed to actually drip water. The base of the monument is surrounded by a marble wall with the names of the 3000 victims engraved in alphabetical order.

    Refusing to place the monument in Manhattan, or on the scenic Jersey City waterfront (where Goldman Sachs is Headquartered), US authorities instead dump Putin's gift in a depressed and unseen spot in Bayonne, NJ. (around the corner from a junkyard!) The media gives the beautiful memorial, dedicated by Putin himself, a total silent treatment.

    The monument is barely known, even among local residents of Bayonne!

    Bayonne is happy to host the monument, but a Councilman stated that they are baffled by Jersey City's rejection of it.

    "This is a beautiful memorial. I don't know why they (Jersey City) didn't want it. We don't even have money to keep the teardrop mechanism operational, so, it stays dry."

    *Jersey City is directly across the river from where the Twin Towers stood.

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    US fears Russian publication of satellite photos of the tragedy of 9/11

    07.02.2015 | Source:
    to Pravda.Ru

    "American experts believe that despite the fact that relations between the US and Russia reached the worst point since the Cold War, Putin delivered until Obama only minor troubles. Analysts believe that this "calm before the storm."

    Putin is going to hit once, but he's going to hit hard.

    Russia is preparing the release of evidence of the involvement of the US government and intelligence services to the September 11 attacks. In the list of evidence includes satellite images, the website secretsofthefed. com.

    Published material can prove malice government towards the people of the US and the successful manipulation of public opinion. US government planned to attack, but spent her proxy. So that an attack on America and the people of the United States looked like an act of aggression of international terrorism.

    The motive for deception and murder its own citizens served as US oil interests in the Middle East state corporations.

    The evidence will be so convincing that they fall on the previous cases to manipulate public opinion in order to achieve selfish private interests.

    Russia proves that America is no stranger to expose and kill its citizens in order to achieve a pretext for military intervention in the foreign country. In the case of "the September 11 attacks," the evidence will serve as satellite imagery.

    If successful, the consequences of Putin's tactics would be for the US government's most unsightly. The government's credibility will be undermined in the cities will begin mass protests, turning into an uprising, paint a picture of American analysts.

    And as the United States will look on the world political arena? The validity of America's position as a leader in the fight against international terrorism will be undermined than immediately take advantage of rogue states and Islamic terrorists.

    Do not be confused by such unsightly scenario, the actual development of the situation could be much worse, experts warn."

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    FWIW - The writer of said article seems like an employer of English-as-a-second-language.

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    Actually, that was a google translation it appears to me.

    So, can't blame the writer or the poster here. Just Google. LOL
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    Right. Got it.

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    LOL, good old Pravda.

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    I keep thinking back to that open mic catch with our two heads of state.

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    We talking about the "I'll have more flexibility" comments?

    I wonder if Obama and Putin know about Titor?
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