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    Default China Says It's Mulling Offer From Seychelles To Be Naval Resupply & Recreation Base

    China Says It's Mulling Offer From Seychelles To Be Naval Resupply & Recreation Base
    December 13, 2011

    China said Tuesday it is considering an offer from the Seychelles to host Chinese naval ships in the Indian Ocean island nation, highlighting the increasing global reach of a navy that recently launched its first aircraft carrier.

    State-run media gave prominent coverage to the Seychelles offer to allow rest and resupply for Chinese ships in the multinational force conducting anti-piracy patrols off the coast of Somalia, which China has joined since late 2008.

    But the reports were careful to reaffirm China’s firm policy of not establishing permanent military bases overseas, a cornerstone of Beijing’s claim not to be seeking regional hegemony or military alliances with other nations.

    “China’s position is clear. China has never set up military bases in other countries,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told reporters at a daily news briefing.

    Chinese ships assigned to the anti-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden have visited several ports to allow their crews to rest and to take on supplies, including in Yemen and Oman on the Arabian Peninsula and Djibouti on the Horn of Africa.

    The China Daily newspaper said the invitation from the Seychelles was issued during a visit to the archipelago by Defense Minister Liang Guanglie earlier this month.

    The Chinese navy has grown in recent years from a coastal protection force to one spanning the globe, sending ships as far as the Caribbean on goodwill missions and into the Mediterranean to escort vessels evacuating Chinese citizens from the fighting in Libya.

    The navy also began sea trials in August for its first aircraft carrier, the former Soviet Varyag, towed from Ukraine in 1998 minus its engines, weaponry and navigation systems. China says the carrier is intended for research and training, leading to speculation that it plans to build future copies.

    China’s military expansion and strong assertions of claims to disputed territory have raised regional concerns, prompting many of China’s neighbors to strengthen ties with the U.S. military that has traditionally predominated in the Asia Pacific.

    While Beijing has tried to assuage those concerns, it has also asserted its claims with patrols and other physical displays, and on Tuesday dispatched its largest coast guard cutter to the East China Sea.

    The 322-foot (98-meter) Haijian will visit Chinese rock outcroppings as well as a gas field claimed by China and Japan. There was no indication it planned to visit other islands that Japan controls but China claims.

    The policy of ruling out permanent military bases overseas has been questioned in recent years as China travels further abroad in search of economic opportunities and resources for its growing economy. Chinese academics and military thinkers have floated hitherto unheard-of proposals for bases in the Indian Ocean to protect energy supply lines, only to be met with crisp disavowals from the government.

    The issue of Chinese naval activity in the Indian Ocean is of particular interest to India, which has long-standing border disputes with China and is deeply suspicious of China’s close ties with archrival Pakistan.

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    Default Re: China Says It's Mulling Offer From Seychelles To Be Naval Resupply & Recreation B

    They're stretching their legs.

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    Default Re: China Says It's Mulling Offer From Seychelles To Be Naval Resupply & Recreation B

    A good location for them to assert themselves more as a world naval power rather than just coastal China power.

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    odd that one of our drones just had issues here too....

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    Default Re: China Says It's Mulling Offer From Seychelles To Be Naval Resupply & Recreation B

    Tuesday, Jan. 3, 2012
    Chinese military bases are about more than just naval supplies and protecting trade routes

    By HARSH V. PANT

    LONDON — So finally it is out in the open. China will be setting up its first military base abroad in Seychelles to "seek supplies and recuperate" facilities for its navy.

    The Indian Ocean island nation has defended its decision by suggesting that it has invited China to set up a military base to tackle piracy off its coast and Beijing has played it down by underlining that it is standard global practice for naval fleets to re-supply at the closest port of a nearby state during long-distance missions.

    But there should be no ambiguity for the rest of the world: Chinese footprint in the Indian Ocean has gotten bigger and will continue to get bigger in the coming years.

    China's foreign policy thinkers and political establishment have long been trying to convince the world that Beijing's rise is meant to be a peaceful one, that China has no expansionist intentions, that it will be a different kind of great power.

    Of course, the very nature of power makes this largely a charade, but more surprising is that Western and Indian liberals have tended to take these assertions at face value. There is an entire industry in the West that would have us believe that China is actually a different kind of a great power and that if the West could simply give China a stake in the established order, Beijing's rise would not create any complications.

    Many in China have been advocating the creation of overseas bases for some time now. Shen Dingli, an influential professor at Fudan University in Shanghai, asserted two years ago that "it is wrong for us [China] to believe that we have no right to set up bases abroad." He argues that it is not terrorism or piracy that's the real threat to China; it's the ability of other states to block China's trade routes that poses the greatest threat.

    To prevent this from happening, China, according to Dingli, needs not only a blue-water navy but also "overseas military bases to cut the supply costs."

    Shen also wraps this up in the widely accepted world peace diplomacy, asserting that the establishment of such military bases overseas would promote regional and global stability. It is a familiar diplomatic wrapping that other superpowers should easily recognize.

    As China emerges as a major global power, it will expand its military footprint across the globe, much like that other great power, the United States, that has bases surrounding China. The rapid expansion of China's naval capabilities and broader military profile is a classic manifestation of its great power status.
    China's new naval strategy of "far sea defense" is aimed at giving Beijing the ability to project its power in key oceanic areas, including — and most significantly -the Indian Ocean.

    China's expansionist behavior has, in fact, long been evident. China has been acquiring naval facilities along crucial chokepoints in the Indian Ocean not only to serve its economic interests but also to enhance its strategic presence in the region.

    China realizes that its maritime strength will give it the strategic leverage it needs to emerge as the regional hegemon and a potential superpower. China's growing dependence on maritime space and resources is reflected in the Chinese aspiration to expand its influence and to ultimately dominate the strategic environment of the Indian Ocean region.

    Its growing reliance on bases across the Indian Ocean region is a response to its perceived vulnerability, given the logistical constraints that it faces due to the distance of the Indian Ocean waters from its own area of operation.

    Given that almost 80 percent of China's oil passes through the Strait of Malacca, it is reluctant to rely on U.S. naval power for unhindered access to energy and so has decided to build up its naval power at choke points along the sea routes from the Persian Gulf to the South China Sea. Yet, China is also consolidating power over the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean with an eye on India.

    China's growing naval presence in and around the Indian Ocean region, beginning in areas such as China's Hainan island in the South China Sea, has been troubling Indian strategists for some time now.

    Of particular note is what has been termed as China's "string of pearls" strategy — some elements of which are no doubt hyped — that has significantly expanded its strategic depth in India's backyard.

    It is possible to explain the construction of these ports and facilities by China along India's periphery on purely economic and commercial grounds, but regional and global powers like the U.S., Japan and India inevitably view the sum total of China's diplomatic and military efforts in the Indian Ocean as projecting power vis-*-vis competing rivals.

    Moreover, most Chinese naval facilities in the Indian Ocean are dual use in nature, and no serious strategy can discount their future military use.

    China is merely following in the footsteps of other major global powers who have established military bases abroad to secure their interests. There is only one kind of great power, and one kind of great power tradition. China is not going to be any different. The sooner the world acknowledges this, the better it will be able to manage China's rise.

    Harsh V. Pant is a professor of defense studies at King's College, London.

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    Default Re: China Says It's Mulling Offer From Seychelles To Be Naval Resupply & Recreation B

    Look folks... wake up. Putting bases out there are ALL about resupply lines. Nothing more, nothing less. Protection of the forces in the region (which is why WE do it).

    If China is doing it, someone in the Pentagon better be watching and calling that play out for the President and Joint Chiefs. If they aren't then we've been doomed from the getgo.
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