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    Default U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China

    U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China
    December 15, 2011

    One of the things that's showing up in Christmas stockings this year: higher prices, courtesy of China.

    After decades as America's go-to destination for low-cost consumer goods, China is undergoing a profound shift. Rapid economic development and a smaller supply of young migrant workers are pushing up labor costs. Tack on rising raw-materials prices, driven largely by Chinese demand, and a strengthening currency, and China-made goods aren't the bargains they used to be.

    In the past year, labor costs have risen 15% to 20% at Michaels Stores Inc.'s Chinese suppliers, says John Menzer, chief executive of the arts-and-crafts retailer. He says his company has spent much of the year seeking ways to partly offset those increases, such as by grouping goods from different suppliers into a single container to cut shipping costs.

    Still, Michaels has had to raise prices this year on some items, including artificial Christmas trees. And Mr. Menzer expects its battles with rising Chinese costs to continue. "Our suppliers are very nervous about labor costs," he says. "We'll have the same pressures next year."

    Last month's prices for Chinese imports were up 3.9% from a year earlier, the Labor Department said Wednesday, matching October's gain, the largest year-to-year monthly rise since 2008.

    Wednesday's report showed that prices were up sharply for many kinds of goods for which China is the dominant supplier.

    China accounts for about 80% of U.S. shoe imports; imported-footwear prices in November were up 6.1% from a year earlier. It accounts for about 60% of furniture imports; imported-furniture prices also were up 6.1%. About 80% of U.S. luggage imports come from China; prices in the category that includes luggage and similar goods rose 8.3% in November.

    Those higher costs are one reason that U.S consumer prices have risen this year, despite the weak economy. Economists expect Friday's inflation report from the Labor Department to show that, excluding the volatile food and energy categories, November consumer prices were up 2.1% from a year earlier, on par with October's rise.

    That's relatively low, historically speaking, and unlikely to give Federal Reserve policy makers pause in their efforts to boost the economy. But it marks the biggest gain since October 2008.

    Over the past two years, the cost of furniture that Hooker Furniture Corp. buys from China has risen steadily, says Paul Toms, CEO of the Martinsville, Va., company. In September, Hooker raised prices on two-thirds of its product line–everything it hadn't introduced in the past year–by 5%.

    With the company's Chinese suppliers raising wages to retain employees, Mr. Toms suspects there will be more price increases to come. "We're in a labor-intensive industry, and it's probably not one of the more-desirable industries for folks to work in," he says. "We think our suppliers are seeing labor cost increases in the 20% to 30% range."

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    According to China's Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security, 21 provinces and municipalities had, on average, instituted annual minimum wage increases of 22% by October. Officials in Shenzhen, in China's southern manufacturing heartland, said last month that they will raise the city's minimum wage by 15% in January, hoping to attract more workers.

    The months ahead may bring U.S. companies some import-price relief. Commodity prices have fallen sharply from their spring highs. A slowing economy, the product of earlier efforts to cool growth, as well as faltering demand from Europe, has checked Chinese authorities' willingness to let the country's currency gain against the dollar.

    But rising affluence, growing opportunities in China's interior and a declining youth population are putting upward pressure on Chinese manufacturing wages that will prove difficult to stem.

    Until a couple of months ago, most of the largely Chinese-made shoes at Eugene Running Co. cost about $100. But as companies rolled out new models in October and November, they also pushed through higher prices for the first time since 2007

    "Everybody has upped their shoes $5 or $10," says Laura Coll, who co-owns the Eugene, Ore, store with her husband Bob. "Mizuno [Corp.] did a $15 increase on all of their shoes."

    Rising wages in China aren't new, says Bank of America-Merrill Lynch economist Ethan Harris. Pay there has been going up for years. What's different now, he says, is that labor costs have reached a point where Chinese exporters can no longer easily absorb them, and are instead passing them on. That's particularly true for labor-intensive items like shoes.

    In a note to clients early this year, Mr. Harris estimated that labor accounts for roughly half the export cost of a Chinese-made sneaker.

    "I think it put them up against their profit wall, and then the pass through started to get quick," he says.

    That was Big Agnes Inc.'s experience, says Bill Gamber, co-owner of the Steamboat Springs, Colo., camping-gear company. "Our suppliers were doing well for a long time, and absorbed the cost, and all of a sudden they're like, 'we can't do this anymore,' " he says.

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    The company has figured out ways to hold some costs down. It found a cheaper fabric for its tents, for example. But it still is raising prices. A popular sleeping bag that Big Agnes has priced for years at $199 will be $239 when the 2012 version is rolled out next month.

    Mr. Gamber isn't worried his rivals will undercut him on price. Chinese suppliers dominate the industry, so everybody gets hit by the cost increases, he says. But he is concerned about how consumers will react.

    Big Agnes is stocking fewer high-end items, based on the theory that more people will gravitate toward the lower end of its product line.

    "People can pay $100 more for one of our tents that weighs a pound less," he says. "People may prefer to pay less."
    I think some of us predicted this would happen. China would undercut American industry, leaving us without an industrial base, and then jack prices up once we were dependent on them.

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    Default Re: U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Ruck View Post
    U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China

    I think some of us predicted this would happen. China would undercut American industry, leaving us without an industrial base, and then jack prices up once we were dependent on them.
    The thing is, there is still quite an industrial base here and plenty of money to restart one.

    Higher prices from China is simply occurring because the table is starting to level out instead of exclusively favoring China. This is only the start.

    15 years from now, we will still get stuff from China but it will be just one of many vendors, all competing on quality. When you can buy a new toaster for $18 it doesn't matter that it only lasts 18 months. When that 18 month toaster is $50 and one that will last 10 years is $75 dollars, people will buy the $75 one again specially if it's branded "Made in the USA"

    The problem with the market today is that the cheap alternative far outweighs the quality device when you average the cost over the lifetime. This is because of currency manipulation and low wages in China and other turd world holes.

    For the past 10-15 years, China has had the low wages of an agricultural society coupled with the industrial manufacturing of an advanced society. The two cannot co-exist for long and have only been able to do so because of the rapid industrialization paid for by western cultures. As the culture catches up, wages will rise and people will demand a better quality of life and higher wages.

    China is polluting like it's Pittsburg in the 1920s. One way or another, they'll have to change and the change will cost money and the money will cause Elmo in Toys-r-us to cost an extra few bucks.
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    Default Re: U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China

    You're right, we do still have some of an industrial base here. But we have lost a lot of what we had. Machinery and factories shipped wholesale overseas to China or others, a lot of equipment melted down for scrap when metal prices went through the roof, and a lot of industrial real estate bulldozed to make room for housing during the housing boom.

    You're also right that we can restart industry here. However another "but" is that it is going to take time and money, two things the first of which we may not have and the second which we really don't since our country is on the precipice of bankruptcy.

    So, can it be done? Possibly. Before we crash and burn? I don't know.

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    Default Re: U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China

    "Smart" states will do things to encourage reinvesting in manufacturing here.

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    Reinvestment is inevitable, but for reasons including transport cost. It just won't make economic sense to ship Elmo 10 thousand miles with shrinking global energy supplies and shrinking disposable income.
    Unfortunately, Elmo will be the least of our worries.

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    Default Re: U.S. Shoppers Foot Bill for Soaring Pay in China

    And China, I just don't see sh-t happening in China. It's too corrupt from the get go.
    You have to start with the rule of law!
    The US did, it's gone now, and things are going down fast.

    Supply, demand, price gouging, economic rules can't be ignored.
    Chickens will come home to roost!

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